PipeChat Digest #3405 - Tuesday, January 28, 2003
 
Higher Education as an Industry
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Sun, sea and organs
  by <EchoGamba@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Higher Education as an Industry From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 02:36:50 -0500   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_1399033= =3D=3D.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3Dflowed   It was written; >Paul's comments are interesting in light of a profile of the new Senior >vice president, chief financial officer, and treasurer of Georgetown >University. When asked how his experience at AT&T will help him, he talks =   >about the importance of brand and brand equity and making sure the >finances of Georgetown enhance that brand equity in a very competitive >industry like higher education. When asked what attracted him to >Georgetown, he says it's a premiere institution in a very competitive >industry, ... an industry that I wanted to experience and learn more = about >and contribute to its competitiveness. > >Admittedly he's on the business side, and obviously has impressive >credentials, but I found it a bit jarring to hear him refer to higher >education as "an industry." Maybe I'm just old and out of touch. But it >also seems to reflect a mindset in some religious institutions, famous = and >otherwise, where music programs are expected to be profit centers and >contribute to the bottom line. > >Guess it's a good thing I'm no longer actively engaged in any significant =   >way in either higher education or church music. Or much of anything else, =   >for that matter.   Most of my working life was spent in the Higher Education Industry, - of =   course it is a "Business", just as much as any other"Business".   Music Education is a "Business", and if successful, BIG Business, - just take a look at the fees that the outstanding performers are commanding! = Of course the lowly B.Mus will never attain those heights, but at one time they might have aspired to.   One only has to look into the amounts of money that successful organists get for a recital in a well-heeled church or concert hall, and you will = see that this business acumen is right up there, front and centre!   I hasten to add that it is not necessarily the teachers who attain these high fees! The organization, be it a University, College or Conservatory, all get the fall-out from high fees, in the ever upwards escalation of tuition costs, - if that's not Big Business, then I don't know what is!   Fame has it's own reward, both for the musician and the Educational Institution!   Bob Conway - who did not teach music, only Mechanical Engineering, but who has seen = it all along.           --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_1399033= =3D=3D.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii"   <html> <body> It was written;<br> <blockquote type=3Dcite class=3Dcite cite><font size=3D2>Paul's comments = are interesting in light of a profile of the new Senior vice president, chief financial officer, and treasurer of Georgetown University. When asked how his experience at AT&amp;T will help him, he talks about the importance of brand and brand equity and making sure the finances of Georgetown enhance that brand equity in a very competitive industry like higher education. When asked what attracted him to Georgetown, he says it's a premiere institution in a very competitive industry, ... an industry that I wanted to experience and learn more about and contribute to its competitiveness.<br><br> Admittedly he's on the business side, and obviously has impressive credentials, but I found it a bit jarring to hear him refer to higher education as &quot;an industry.&quot; Maybe I'm just old and out of touch. But it also seems to reflect a mindset in some religious institutions, famous and otherwise, where music programs are expected to be profit centers and contribute to the bottom line.<br><br> Guess it's a good thing I'm no longer actively engaged in any significant way in either higher education or church music. Or much of anything else, for that matter.</font><font face=3D"arial"> </blockquote><br> Most of my working life was spent in the Higher Education Industry,&nbsp;&nbsp; - of course it is a &quot;Business&quot;, just as much as any other&quot;Business&quot;.<br><br> Music Education is a &quot;Business&quot;, and if successful, BIG Business, - just take a look at the fees that the outstanding performers are commanding!&nbsp; Of course the lowly B.Mus will never attain those heights, but at one time they might have aspired to.<br><br> One only has to look into the amounts of money that successful organists get for a recital in a well-heeled church or concert hall, and you will see that this business acumen is right up there, front and centre!<br><br> I hasten to add that it is not necessarily the teachers who attain these high fees! The organization, be it a University, College or Conservatory, all get the fall-out from high fees, in the ever upwards escalation of tuition costs, - if that's not Big Business, then I don't know what is!<br><br> Fame has it's own reward, both for the musician and the Educational Institution!<br><br> Bob Conway<br> - who did not teach music, only Mechanical Engineering, but who has seen it all along.<br><br> <br><br> </font></body> <br> </html>   --=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_1399033= =3D=3D.ALT--    
(back) Subject: Sun, sea and organs From: <EchoGamba@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2003 04:07:32 EST     --part1_183.15e6eced.2b67a254_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Good morning listers,   I booked my Autumn holiday yesterday. I am off to Puerto Rico in Gran Canaria for a couple of weeks. Hopefully I will come back looking tanned = and handsome, although I suspect it will take more than a bit of sun to = perform such a HUGE transformation!!   Anyway, not having visited this part of the world before, can anyone tell = me if there are any churches, cathedrals (and most importantly) organs of interest to visit??   I will keep any information provided to myself, because I think my good = lady is looking forward to a few weeks away from open diapasons and wind = cyphers. If I get any recommendations however, I could always take a wrong turn in = the hire car. (if you get my drift) ;-)   Thanks,   Paul. EchoGamba@aol.com   --part1_183.15e6eced.2b67a254_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <HTML><FONT FACE=3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D2 FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D"Arial" LANG=3D"0">Good morning listers,<BR> <BR> I booked my Autumn holiday yesterday.&nbsp; I am off to Puerto Rico in = Gran Canaria for a couple of weeks.&nbsp; Hopefully I will come back = looking tanned and handsome, although I suspect it will take more than a = bit of sun to perform such a HUGE transformation!!<BR> <BR> Anyway, not having visited this part of the world before, can anyone tell = me if there are any churches, cathedrals (and most importantly) organs of = interest to visit??<BR> <BR> I will keep any information provided to myself, because I think my good = lady is looking forward to a few weeks away from open diapasons and wind = cyphers.&nbsp; If I get any recommendations however, I could always take a = wrong turn in the hire car. (if you get my drift) ;-)<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> Paul.<BR> EchoGamba@aol.com</FONT></HTML>   --part1_183.15e6eced.2b67a254_boundary--