PipeChat Digest #3780 - Wednesday, July 2, 2003
 
Re: Grant Degens & Bradbeer
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Cape Convention
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
RE: VERY LONG:  SLC AGO Convention, chapter 2
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
An off-topic hair-brained story
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
WAY off topic...( x posted): re Adobe Reader
  by "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca>
Re: I'm sure this was lovely when it was sent,
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: More organ info...and thanks.....
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Be Thankful, Ye from "The Cape"
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Grant Degens & Bradbeer From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 12:02:15 +0000   Maurice Forsyth Grant was a friend of my father's in the RAF during the = war - both of them were involved in communications technology, mainly radar - = I have a letter written during WW2 from Churchill's secretary specifically asking for my father, C in C signals command, to explain how the developments affected aircraft construction. M F-G's fortune was founded = on the whisky firm, though he tended to play this connection down - he made = his real money by being one of the 4 founding shareholders in what was to = become RACAL electronics and is now Vodafone/Panafon. I frequently visited his house when he had the 3 manual organ, now in Aldenham School, in his = living room. We toured Europe together in - I think - 1973. We obtained access to =   virtually every organ we visited, from Notre Dame in Paris to cathedrals = and churches in France, Germany and Austria. He gave me 20% of the shares in Grant, Degens and Bradbeer, and I acted with Frank Bradbeer as consultant = on several installations. I had a house in Aldenham and was a friend of the Director of Music there, so when Maurice moved to Wales his organ was put into store. Aldenham had a Compton Electrone in the school chapel, but = when Alan Venning heard that the house organ was for sale the school bought it. = I played the Poulenc Concerto in the opening concert in 1976. Maurice did not really play himself, but he enjoyed hearing other = organists play. He also had a player mechanism. His great enthusiasms were organs, computer technology and his cats. He had the most exquisitely expensive armchairs which the cats had reduced to ribbons by use as claw sharpeners! = A shrewd businessman, he didn't actually give GD&B organs away, but in = attempt to influence British organ Building prices were usually competitive. I = think the firm did have an influence on British organs - they were, I believe, = the first to install a tracker instrument with electric stop and piston action =   at St Mary's Priory, Fulham, where Alan Harverson was the consultant. John Foss www.johnfoss.gr   _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail    
(back) Subject: Cape Convention From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 09:59:24 -0400   Thank you, Malcolm, for the defense, and apologies to Dale Rider if I inadvertently offended. You are perhaps reacting to my closing comment that everything else would be downhill after Tom Murray's recital, and I can understand your response. I certainly did not mean to disparage the many excellent presentations still to come, although due to my schedule (I am also a lawyer) I can't make it on Tuesday and due to a funeral at my church on Wednesday, I'll miss half of that day. It's just that the presentations on Monday were at such an exalted level that the thought of anything being better would be overwhelming! I must say, however, that I'm fully prepared to be overwhelmed, so I'm looking forward to Wednesday afternoon and evening. Regards, David Baker    
(back) Subject: RE: VERY LONG: SLC AGO Convention, chapter 2 From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 11:25:24 -0500   Isn't there a funny story about someone approaching Fred and suggesting she'd like to run her fingers through his hair, to which he replied "On or off my head?"   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: Michael David [mailto:michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net]=20 Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:13 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: RE: VERY LONG: SLC AGO Convention, chapter 2   Oh, I'm sure it's real and I'm also sure it all grew in Southern California:-) If you have access to old issues of The Diapason, he was bald as a cue ball when he was at Riverside.   Michael - I'm sure there's an inner resting story there     > >Subject: VERY LONG: SLC AGO Convention, chapter 2 >From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> >Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:04:50 -0500 > >Chapter 2 - Monday, June 16 > snip, snip, and snip again > >Our national president Fred Swann sat in the row ahead of us, and I was >able to study his hair. Because of his ever perfect coif I always >wondered if it was real, and am now convinced it is (although only his >hairdresser knows for sure). Anyway, every hair was in place and he >looked like he was enjoying himself. >     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: An off-topic hair-brained story From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 16:03:26 -0500   I've gotten several comments over my admiring Fred's hair, and it reminds me of an unorganic story. A local attorney who had lost his hair on top was ostensibly worried about skin cancer (he was very fair), and his doctor told him to wear a hat or "something". He told several of us that he was going to check out the Hair Club for Men, but in the midst of all other vignettes happening in town I forgot the warning.   One Monday morning, I walked into chambers pre-jury selection, and there he was! I was so shocked by the look of him that at first I was speechless, then all I could sputter was, "Did you get a haircut?"   This was immediately prior to the presidential ballot recount business in Florida. This lawyer filed suit on behalf of a group of voters, and ended up arguing before the Florida Supreme Court. I missed seeing him on national TV, but those who did shook their heads in disbelief: it seems when he went for a readjustment the club got his rug on backward! So much for his fifteen minutes of fame! I felt bad for him - all that money and effort. Make sure they get it on straight, guys.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: WAY off topic...( x posted): re Adobe Reader From: "Hugh Drogemuller" <hdrogemuller@sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 17:47:36 -0400   To those on the list that find Adobe Reader V5.0 to 5.X the most frustrating piece of software out there I encourage you to go into <www.google.com> and find a download source for Adobe Reader V6.X I have found V6.X to work beautifully; it is everything that V5.X is not.   HD    
(back) Subject: Re: I'm sure this was lovely when it was sent, From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:58:13 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Is it my eyesight, or are the photographs out of focus?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Michael David <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> wrote: > but really: > > > <P ALIGN=3D3DCENTER>JUNE 28, SAT12 </FONT><FONT > COLOR=3D3D"#000000" > style=3D3D"BA=3D > CKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D3 > FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D > =3D3D"0"> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" > style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: > #ffffff"=3D20=3D > SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" > LANG=3D3D"0">NOON</FONT><FONT > CO=3D     ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: More organ info...and thanks..... From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:41:07 EDT     --part1_14f.20e00b36.2c339233_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Mr. Webber, Since your interest seems primarily in restoring a period instrument, I'd suggest measuring the chamber space and then contacting the Organ Clearing = House. You might find an instrument consistent with the time period and one = which would enhance the church interior as well as the worship.   I used to play in a church that located a pipe organ via the Organ = Clearing House to replace an electronic which replaced the original pipe organ. = The instrument located not only fit the sanctuary space beautifully, but was = also built in the same year as the building.   Your description of the Hammond sticking out from the case reminds me of a =   piano bar in a restaurant I used to frequent. The most outstanding = feature was the hammered copper concert grand piano bar. However, upon close = inspection one discovered the actual piano to be a WurliTzer spinet pushed up beneath =   the "grand" box. To add insult to injury, there was also a littl spinet = organ next to it for variety!! A dream situation for today's contemporary = church!! ;-)   Good luck with your project. Please keep us posted.       Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyurl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll = only take a minute!)     --part1_14f.20e00b36.2c339233_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>Mr. Webber,=3D20 <BR>Since your interest seems primarily in restoring a period instrument, = I'=3D d suggest measuring the chamber space and then contacting the Organ = Clearing=3D House. &nbsp;You might find an instrument consistent with the time period = a=3D nd one which would enhance the church interior as well as the worship. <BR> <BR>I used to play in a church that located a pipe organ via the Organ = Clear=3D ing House to replace an electronic which replaced the original pipe organ. = &=3D nbsp;&nbsp;The instrument located not only fit the sanctuary space = beautiful=3D ly, but was also built in the same year as the building. <BR> <BR>Your description of the Hammond sticking out from the case reminds me = of=3D a piano bar in a restaurant I used to frequent. &nbsp;&nbsp;The most = outsta=3D nding feature was the hammered copper concert grand piano bar. = &nbsp;&nbsp;H=3D owever, upon close inspection one discovered the actual piano to be a = WurliT=3D zer spinet pushed up beneath the "grand" box. &nbsp;To add insult to = injury,=3D there was also a littl spinet organ next to it for variety!! &nbsp;A = dream=3D20=3D situation for today's contemporary church!! &nbsp;;-) <BR> <BR>Good luck with your project. &nbsp;Please keep us posted. <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyu=3D rl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll only take a minute!) <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_14f.20e00b36.2c339233_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Be Thankful, Ye from "The Cape" From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 21:58:11 EDT     --part1_7c.3ad72f4b.2c339633_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/1/03 2:02:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = ProOrgo53@aol.com writes:     > I'm really sick and ashamed of all the carping that's going on this = summer > by so many people all over this country finding fault with so much that = has > been lovingly prepared to the glory of GOD and so many folk with their = noses > out of joint are bannying around being super-freak-critics! WHY? WHY IS = THIS? >   Gee Dale.... it's sad to hear you sounding like you've been at the = business end of the board. I, too, am amazed and appalled at the seeming = bitterness of many colleagues in church music. At times I'm almost ashamed to admit =   that I'm a church organist. I'm on about ten chat lists and the meanest = people I encounter are organists/church musicians. I can't actually blame it = on AGO, especially after chatting with the helpful and friendly people at National, but I find the "bad attitude" more prevalent in AGO than in OHS, = and it does spill over into denominational chat lists.   > Enjoy the music! Enjoy one another! It could all end at any moment for = any > of us with no warning at all (just as it did for one of my best friends, = age > 51, at work last Thursday afternoon --- massive heart attack, fell to = the > floor dead, and now he's in his casket, 6 feet under Earth's magnificent =   > surface. End of life as he knew it. Period. It's over! >   Actually, your friends life just began! With he state of our world now I =   find it very difficult to feel sorry for anyone who has crossed to the = "other side." I'm sure it's a much better life where they have gone. I played = for a funeral yesterday for a lady who would have lived on our little planet for = 103 years. Her funeral was on her birthday! One of her grandchildren had = us all sing "Happy Birthday" to signal the beginning of a life greater than = the one she had just left. It does get better!   As Ethel Merman used to say: Chins up! ;-)     Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyurl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll = only take a minute!)     --part1_7c.3ad72f4b.2c339633_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 7/1/03=3D 2:02:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, ProOrgo53@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">I'm really sick and = ashamed=3D of all the carping that's going on this summer by so many people all over = t=3D his country finding fault with so much that has been lovingly prepared to = th=3D e glory of GOD and so many folk with their noses out of joint are bannying = a=3D round being super-freak-critics! WHY? WHY IS THIS?=3D20 <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0">Gee Dale.... &nbsp;it's sad to hear you sounding like = you've=3D been at the business end of the board. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I, too, am = amazed=3D20=3D and appalled at the seeming bitterness of many colleagues in church music. = &=3D nbsp;&nbsp;At times I'm almost ashamed to admit that I'm a church = organist.=3D20=3D &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm on about ten chat lists and the meanest people I = encou=3D nter are organists/church musicians. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I can't = actuall=3D y blame it on AGO, especially after chatting with the helpful and friendly = p=3D eople at National, but I find the "bad attitude" more prevalent in AGO = than=3D20=3D in OHS, and it does spill over into denominational chat lists. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff 2px so=3D lid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Enjoy the = music=3D ! Enjoy one another! It could all end at any moment for any of us with no = wa=3D rning at all (just as it did for one of my best friends, age 51, at work = las=3D t Thursday afternoon --- massive heart attack, fell to the floor dead, and = n=3D ow he's in his casket, 6 feet under Earth's magnificent surface. End of = life=3D as he knew it. Period. It's over! <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>Actually, your friends life just began! &nbsp;&nbsp;With he state of = our=3D world now I find it very difficult to feel sorry for anyone who has = crossed=3D to the "other side." &nbsp;I'm sure it's a much better life where they = have=3D gone. &nbsp;&nbsp;I played for a funeral yesterday for a lady who would = hav=3D e lived on our little planet for 103 years. &nbsp;&nbsp;Her funeral was on = h=3D er birthday! &nbsp;&nbsp;One of her grandchildren had us all sing "Happy = Bir=3D thday" to signal the beginning of a life greater than the one she had just = l=3D eft. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;It does get better! <BR> <BR>As Ethel Merman used to say: &nbsp;&nbsp;Chins up! &nbsp;;-) <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyu=3D rl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll only take a minute!) <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_7c.3ad72f4b.2c339633_boundary--