PipeChat Digest #3798 - Wednesday, July 9, 2003
 
organists and organ-building
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: electric organs
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Warped visions, warped trackers
  by "Jim Pitts" <wurlibird1@hot.rr.com>
Re: 15-year-old Schudi
  by "Bill" <bill.hauser@cox.net>
Re: 15-year-old Schudi
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: 15-year-old Schudi
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: electric organs
  by "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net>
Re: Bread and breads
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Warped visions, warped trackers
  by "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com>
Re: electric organs
  by "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com>
Re: organists and organ-building
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: organists and organ-building From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 17:31:34 -0700   I have pleaded for DECADES (*mostly* in VAIN) for organists to at LEAST learn ENOUGH about organ-building that they're NOT a danger to themselves OR their INSTRUMENTS (chuckle).   One responded, "that's the BUILDER'S job; I just PLAY the damn thing. I don't WANNA know how it works."   Sad, VERY sad.   I have been blessed with poor parishes most of my career. I HAD to learn a CERTAIN amount, or it was likely the organ wouldn't play on a given Sunday.   Nowadays, the temptation of a huge digital stop-list for a fraction of the cost of a smaller pipe organ is VERY seductive to a LOT of people.   They have their reward (chuckle).   People who know how to make MUSIC are NOT daunted by a GOOD small organ with exquisite voicing, action, and tonal resources.   People who have to make a lot of NOISE and push a lot of BUTTONS to impress ARE.   If that's harsh, so be it.   But, they sputter, "*I* know how to draw a stop-list!"   Yeah, well, so do I (chuckle). But can you relate that stoplist to the requirements of organ LITERATURE, *and* the requirements of your particular SERVICE and LITURGY, rather than what YOU PERSONALLY want in your "toy-chest?"   There's virtually NOTHING in the literature OR the service that can't be played by an organ of forty stops, and there are those of my colleagues who will say even THAT is generous. A LOT of people DO it with a LOT less (grin).   English cathedral organs are very instructive in this regard ... they are TINY by American standards, and in HUGE buildings, yet they play the literature and accompany the most complex choral service on the planet with a HUGE range of choral literature.   The other day I came across the stoplist of the Cavaille-Coll organ at the Abbey of St. Maurice et St. Maur, at Clervaux, in Luxembourg, which Dom Paul Benoit played for many years:   http://pws.prserv.net/usinet.danance/dpb/benoit08.html   Twenty-three stops over three manuals and pedal ... oh, of course one could WISH for this, that, and the other thing, but I'd be willing to BET that organ can do EVERYTHING that's REQUIRED of it, no muss, no fuss. And I'll ALSO bet there's not a SINGLE "orphan" stop.   I have heard fine organists on indifferent or bad instruments time and again, and heard them make those organs SING.   TWO cases in point: Heiller and Tagliavini on the Mack-Truck early Harrison in the College-Conservatory of Music in Cincinnati. In fairness, that organ isn't all Harrison's fault (grin).   After Heiller's recital, Dr. Roberta Gary turned to her students and said, "If HE can do THAT with THAT organ, SO CAN YOU!"   And we were in DEEP trouble for awhile (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud                
(back) Subject: RE: electric organs From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:41:04 -0400   Sorry Dave and everyone else. I never scroll down that far. I usually = read what people say and don't read anything further down than that. I will = just delete the electric messages from now on.   Andrew   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Administrator Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:23 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: electric organs     At 5:32 PM -0400 7/9/03, andrew meagher wrote: >Could we please stop discussing electric organs in this form? It is >PIPEchat. There is another listserv specifically for electrics. This = list >only deals with pipe organs. I really don't wanna talk about toasters. > >Andrew Meagher > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Andrew   If you read the footer that is at the bottom of every message from this list you will see that it says:   "PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics"   Digital instruments are on topic for this list. This list does not deal exclusively with Pipe organs. And yes, there is a "sister" list to this on called EORG-L which sometimes also gets into discussion of pipe organs and as Administrator of that I don't stop that discussion either.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Warped visions, warped trackers From: "Jim Pitts" <wurlibird1@hot.rr.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:44:30 -0700     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 4:54 PM Subject: Re: Warped visions, warped trackers     > > > > TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > > > How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist worship service? > > > > Though I am Congregational, we have ties to the Methodists, so = perhaps > this qualifies me to comment (even though one of us trespasses, and one = of > us debts). > At least 10 ranks of 32's are the norm, and some have many more. >   Mike, we Methodists in Central Texas are a bit more progressive (or = perhaps regressive) as we find the need for only one 32' Bombarde. This is to compliment the crash cymbal stolen from a Robert Morton for a proper rendition of the old hymn "Never Alone." You remember the verse ~ "I've seen the lightning flashing; I've heard the thunder roll."   To follow another thread, Methodists are quite frugal. With the summer Texas heat, our Board is considering replacing the Sacraments with = Pringle's chips and Grape Crush. The reasoning is that we can combine Communion and the normal post-service fellowship treats in one serving, and thus shut = down the air conditioning an hour earlier. ;-)      
(back) Subject: Re: 15-year-old Schudi From: "Bill" <bill.hauser@cox.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 19:59:05 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0023_01C34654.8D604680 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Roy Redman wrote: >>Thanks for the compliment Seb., but I think you misread my post. I =3D said >>I had been contacted by the church and had offered to make a >>proposal. My offer has NOT been accepted. The whole story on this =3D situation is   Actually, you originally said:   >> I sympathize, and have offered to visit, and make a proposal to help. = =3D My offer has now been accepted, however.       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0023_01C34654.8D604680 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1126" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New">Roy Redman wrote:</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&gt;&gt;Thanks for the compliment Seb., but I think you misread = my=3D20 post.&nbsp; I said</DIV> <DIV>&gt;&gt;I had been contacted by the church and had offered to = make=3D20 a<BR>&gt;&gt;proposal.&nbsp; My offer has NOT been accepted.&nbsp; The =3D whole=3D20 story on this situation is</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New">Actually, you =3D originally&nbsp;said:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New">&gt;&gt; I sympathize, and have offered = =3D to visit,=3D20 and make a proposal to help.&nbsp; My offer has now been accepted,=3D20 however.<BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0023_01C34654.8D604680--    
(back) Subject: Re: 15-year-old Schudi From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:21:31 -0500   Sorry, just a TYPO. That's the whole story! Roy   Bill wrote:   > Roy Redman wrote:>>Thanks for the compliment Seb., but I think you > misread my post. I said>>I had been contacted by the church and had > offered to make a > >>proposal. My offer has NOT been accepted. The whole story on this > situation is Actually, you originally said: >> I sympathize, and have > offered to visit, and make a proposal to help. My offer has now been > accepted, however.    
(back) Subject: Re: 15-year-old Schudi From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:31:23 -0500   Hello, Bill, Roy, et al: From a previous life, I was a technical editor for some clandestine publications, and that qualifies me for comment if I can pay the price of a cup of coffee. I read what Roy wrote but, also, took in the context and interpreted his intent as:   "My offer has not been accepted, however." If that is true, then the deduction from the context makes sense, and Roy's apology for a bum typo also makes sense. Does that make sense? <grins> F. Richard Burt ..  
(back) Subject: Re: electric organs From: "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 20:48:55 -0500   Hello... I second the motion to speake ONLY of PIPES on this list .I = don't like or enjoy electronic substitutes . B.A.F.      
(back) Subject: Re: Bread and breads From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:20:06 EDT     --part1_1aa.173c4d0b.2c3e2756_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/9/2003 5:43:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > but would I be out of line to inquire the denomination? > >   we would be ELCA....... dont ask about Gay Pride ...... dale   --part1_1aa.173c4d0b.2c3e2756_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 7/9/2003 5:43:03 PM Eastern = Dayli=3D ght Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Times=3D New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0">but would I be out of line to inquire the = denominatio=3D n?&nbsp; <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" = style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff=3D fff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> we would be ELCA.......<BR> dont ask about Gay Pride ......<BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1aa.173c4d0b.2c3e2756_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Warped visions, warped trackers From: "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:20:54 -0500   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><P>First off, sorry about the HTML. = Some email servers don't yet support this, I've looked through my options = and can't turn it off. Concerning the message from Bud:</P> <P>I believe the pilcher swell remained pretty much orignal through the = rebuild. The swell box, shutters, windchests, and most if not all of the = pipes were original. The great however was all new. I'll include the = stoplist so you can get an idea:</P> <P>1983 Schudi Organ, First Methodist, Temple, TX</P> <P>Great: (New pipework and chests)</P> <P>8' Principal, 8' Rohrflote, 4' Octave, II Sesquialtera, V Mixture</P> <P>Swell: (Most from previous 1914 Pilcher)</P> <P>16' Leiblich gedeckt, 8' Violin Diapason, 8' Gedeckt, 8' Aeoline, 8' = Aeoline Celeste, 4' Harmonic flute, 2' Piccolo, 8 Harmonic trumpet, 8' = Oboe Gamba</P> <P>Positiv: (directly behind choir, 2 ranks, new pipework and chests, = floating division)</P> <P>8' Rohrflote, 4' Principal, 4' Flute, 2' Principal</P> <P>Pedal:</P> <P>16' Subbass (pilcher), 16 Leiblich gedeckt (SW), 8' Flute (subbass = ext.), 16' Posaune (new)</P> <P>Normal couplers.</P> <P>As you can tell the great division was VERY bright. The huge five rank = mixture dwarfed the three foundation stops. Tuning this mess was&nbsp;a = big problem, and the conditions of the room did not absorb any of this = upperwork. The swell was nice, it was dark and romantic, however, the = strings were too soft, there was no mixture to complement the great = chorus, nor was there a principal on that division. The violin diapason = was more of a large string. The reed choices were not incredible. The oboe = gamba would be nice to have on a very small organ, or a very large organ, = where all the basic reeds were in place first. It was VERY quiet and could = not stand up as a solo line against another single 8' on the great or = positiv. On the other hand, the large harmonic trumpet was good as a = fanfare reed in the middle two and a half octaves or so. Above or below = that and tuning was never stable, or the pipes were so delapadated (due to = bad resonator racking) that they were unusable. The great and s <DIV></DIV>Organist, Handbell Choir Director,First United Methodist = Church, Temple, TX <DIV></DIV>Organist, Baylor University Concert Choir <DIV></DIV>Organist, Accompanist, Baylor University Women's Chorus <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>From: quilisma@socal.rr.com <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>To: PipeChat <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: Warped visions, warped trackers <DIV></DIV>Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 13:38:20 -0700 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>But you mention a "large Pilcher swell box" ... was this = perhaps a rebuild of an earlier Pilcher on a shoestring budget? <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>I would be VERY wary of trashing builders by name on these = lists without stating ALL the facts. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Cheers, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Bud <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Del Case wrote: <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Tyler Robertson wrote: <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;We have been trying to get a new pipe organ in our = building for <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;the past seven years. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; Our last organ <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;&gt;was a II/26 Schudi built in 1983. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Hmmmmmmmm. Lets see. If the Schudi was built in 83 and = needed <DIV></DIV>&gt;to be replaced 7 years ago, what happened? ! ? ! ? ! It = only <DIV></DIV>&gt;lasted for 13 years? Unbelievable. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Del W. Case <DIV></DIV>&gt;"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <DIV></DIV>&gt;PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; = related <DIV></DIV>&gt;topics <DIV></DIV>&gt;HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <DIV></DIV>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; = related topics <DIV></DIV>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>Protect your PC - <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2755??PS=3D">Click here</a> for = McAfee.com VirusScan Online </html>  
(back) Subject: Re: electric organs From: "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:24:08 -0500   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P>From: "andrew meagher" <AMEAGHER@STNY.RR.COM></P> <DIV></DIV> <P>Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG></P> <DIV></DIV> <P>To: <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG></P> <DIV></DIV> <P>Subject: electric organs </P> <DIV></DIV> <P>Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 17:32:27 -0400 </P> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>Could we please stop discussing electric organs in this form? It is = </P> <DIV></DIV> <P>PIPEchat. There is another listserv specifically for electrics. This = list </P> <DIV></DIV> <P>only deals with pipe organs. I really don't wanna talk about toasters. = </P> <P>Hey Andrew, I'll echo what somebody else said yesterday with what = you'll find at the bottom of each message:</P> <P><STRONG>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; = related topics </STRONG></P> <P>I'm afraid the "digital" in there includes toasters, which, like it or = not, are becoming a bigger force in the church organ world. = Sorry<BR><BR></P></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Tyler W. Robertson <DIV></DIV>Organist, Handbell Choir Director,First United Methodist = Church, Temple, TX <DIV></DIV>Organist, Baylor University Concert Choir <DIV></DIV>Organist, Accompanist, Baylor University Women's Chorus <DIV></DIV>200 Cottonwood Apt. 3 <DIV></DIV>Waco, TX 76706 <DIV></DIV>(254) 715-6309 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Andrew Meagher "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>The new <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2737??PS=3D">MSN 8:</a> smart spam = protection and 2 months FREE* </html>  
(back) Subject: Re: organists and organ-building From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:28:17 EDT     --part1_1ef.cf04db5.2c3e2941_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/9/2003 8:34:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > Harrison in the College-Conservatory of Music in Cincinnati. In > fairness, that organ isn't all Harrison's fault (grin). > > After Heiller's recital, Dr. Roberta Gary turned to her students and > said, "If HE can do THAT with THAT organ, SO CAN YOU!" >   That was a grand organ and needs to be repaired and played. The B&V in the recital hall is okay by me also.   I will still however take a huge digital over a small with apologies to no =   one not even my professors.......i also like roller coasters and sopranos = that can give me a high b-flat or C anytime i want one. All of which takes nothing away from tracker lovers or people that build exquistie 22 rank 2 manual organs. i just never got to play one i guess. my former church had a 2 man26 rank Hartford instrument built in 1979--and = it stunk the place up and i got tired of it in about 18 months. did love the =   fan tremolo though.   cheers all dale in Florida   --part1_1ef.cf04db5.2c3e2941_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 7/9/2003 8:34:50 PM Eastern = Dayli=3D ght Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">Harrison in the College-Conservatory of Music in = Cincinnati=3D .. In <BR> fairness, that organ isn't all Harrison's fault (grin).<BR> <BR> After Heiller's recital, Dr. Roberta Gary turned to her students and <BR> said, "If HE can do THAT with THAT organ, SO CAN YOU!"<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> That was a grand organ and needs to be repaired and played.<BR> The B&amp;V in the recital hall is okay by me also.<BR> <BR> I will still however take a huge digital over a small with apologies to no = o=3D ne not even my professors.......i also like roller coasters and sopranos = tha=3D t can give me a&nbsp; high b-flat or C anytime i want one.&nbsp; <BR> All of which takes nothing away from tracker lovers or people that build = exq=3D uistie 22 rank 2 manual organs.&nbsp; i just never got to play one i = guess.<=3D BR> my former church had a 2 man26 rank Hartford instrument built in 1979--and = i=3D t stunk the place up and i got tired of it in about 18 months.&nbsp; did = lov=3D e the fan tremolo though.<BR> <BR> cheers all<BR> dale in Florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ef.cf04db5.2c3e2941_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:29:29 EDT     --part1_12e.2dbeae77.2c3e2989_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > on a lovely 8' > flute with tremulant ... guaranteed to raise the collection by at LEAST   chimes are nice too....... dale   --part1_12e.2dbeae77.2c3e2989_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern = Dayli=3D ght Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">on a lovely 8' <BR> flute with tremulant ... guaranteed to raise the collection by at LEAST = </BL=3D OCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> chimes are nice too.......<BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12e.2dbeae77.2c3e2989_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:31:54 EDT     --part1_b0.3bd71096.2c3e2a1a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist worship service? >   As many as you can get. A flute for communion a violone for offertory and reed for everything else.   Dare i say 2 reeds, one in a box somewhere? o my, put it on the wall right by my Vox in a box.   dale in Florida   --part1_b0.3bd71096.2c3e2a1a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern = Dayli=3D ght Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist = worship s=3D ervice?<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> As many as you can get. <BR> A flute for communion<BR> a violone for offertory<BR> and reed for everything else.<BR> <BR> Dare i say 2 reeds, one in a box somewhere?<BR> o my, put it on the wall right by my Vox in a box.<BR> <BR> dale in Florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_b0.3bd71096.2c3e2a1a_boundary--