PipeChat Digest #3799 - Thursday, July 10, 2003
 
VERY LONG:  SLC AGO - final chapter
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: organists and organ-building
  by "Michael Franch" <mvfranch@hotmail.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com>
Capital words only
  by "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com>
Re: Capital words only
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com>
the organ and the liturgy
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: the organ and the liturgy
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
 

(back) Subject: VERY LONG: SLC AGO - final chapter From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:33:34 -0500   AN AMATEUR'S ORGAN PILGRIMAGE TO GOD'S COUNTRY   Fifth and Final Chapter - Thursday, June 19   I'm sure you can tell from my shrinking descriptions that we were winding down by this time. We were near saturation point with the wonderful programs provided; I'm sure I was staggering by this time. Cynthia swore I was humming "Come, come, ye saints" in my sleep at nights; I am certain it was only melodious snoring.   But there was more to come. Dr. Murray hosted a master class for four pieces played by area organists:   Vierne Toccata from Pieces de Fantaisie - Matthew Thompson Bach arr. Air from Suite in D - Alisa Rogers Bonnet Variations de Concert - Sharee Thompson Reubke Allegro from Sonata on the 94th Psalm - Eric Gundersen Matthew Thompson was a gorgeous blonde guy with muscular build who looked as if he belonged as a tight end for the Brigham Young football team. Gundersen we had heard before (and his picture appears in the latest edition of the Diapason as one of the contenders in the recent Poister Competition), and Sharee Thompson was the second place winner in the Region 9 competition. All four subjects were nervous, but did well.     Murray was extremely sharp while being kind and nonconfrontational, giving them ideas of how to improve their delivery, with suggestions such as using different touches in different rooms, creating more violence and churning when called for, playing with the feet close to the pedals to save nanoseconds on delivery, considering other registrations, not prolonging the first note of an arpeggio or ritarding the middle of a theme, not dragging out ritardandos but starting them near the end, not blipping the staccato notes but making them articulate, and leaning toward a prominent pedal. He is a marvelous teacher, and I enjoyed the class much more than I thought I would. To one who may be reading - you know who you are (we've discussed this subject before) - you NEED to study with this guy; he's too good to pass up.   It was funny to me to see the young organists struggling to carry into effect Murray's suggestions. We all know what it is to commit a piece to memory, with all the articulation, registration, dynamics and whatnot in their proper pigeonholes, and suddenly to be asked to sweep that memory away and do it differently is all but impossible. Gundersen had a stubborn streak in him; he had analyzed the Reubke and had a pat answer for why he did certain things, and therefore was reluctant to change. He reminded me of myself and my stubborn and foolhardy streak with my teacher, incorporating the advice I liked and ignoring the rest. But Murray had an unerring sense of what could make each piece, already played well, better.   WARNING: Digression occurs here - you may wish to skip this paragraph. I pose the question: just how well should a student have a piece under his/her fingers and memory before playing it before the teacher? And how much introduction should a teacher give the piece to foreshadow the trouble spots? I have coached young piano and voice students, and know the utter frustration when it becomes obvious the student hasn't practiced. In fact, if I had a bad week at court, I would call and cancel the organ lesson with my teacher rather than waste his time and mine (of course, in my case a lesson involved not only money, but an investment of three hours' round-trip driving plus about 1-2 hours' practice before the 1 1/2 hour lesson - a half-day of annual leave plus about 6+ hours just for the lesson day, not counting the 1-3 hours per night practice after working all day). But sometimes it is harder to "unlearn" certain techniques than to be guided in the more effective method ahead of time. I just wonder if any pedagogues on the list have theories about this.   Anyway, to bring us back to the subject, the noon Tabernacle recital was given by Andrew Unsworth:   Praeludium in D minor - Bohm Vision (from 12 Characteristic Pieces) - Rheinberger Impromptu (from 12 New Church and Recital Pieces) - Dunham Come, come, ye saints An old melody: On Simple Gifts - Barrett Allegro from Symphony No. 6 - Widor   We tried the front center, row 4 this time. I was particularly moved with the Rheinberger and Widor on this organ.   Lunch was at Passages Restaurant at the Inn at Temple Square, with more of that homemade bread. I gotta quit doing this!   The 2:00 Conference Center recital featured Linda Margetts. Program:   Komm, heiliger Geist, Herr Gott, BWV 651 - Bach Triumphal march - Buck Intermezzo - Robertson Trumpet Voluntary in C major - Dupuis Come, come, ye saints An old melody: Crusaders' Hymn - Margetts Toccata from Suite, op. 70 - Creston   By this time I was on sensory overload, and could only manage to write, "She played well."   At this point the notes in my journal ceased. We did a knockout dinner at Spencer's, one of the top 10 steak restaurants in the U.S. It is a private club, so you have to pay for a temporary license to eat or drink there, and the steaks are a little pricey. But it was worth every penny to have great dead cow (as good as, but I would not say better than, Rick's steaks), salad, and asparagus with homemade bread, salty dogs, and coffee (thank you, Jesus!).   I told someone that prior to this trip, one list member from Utah promised to find us liquor, and another from D.C. promised to bring liquor. After no delivery on these promises, within 48 hours I found two excellent restaurants serving hard liquor, a state liquor store, a tattoo parlour and biker bar, all within four blocks of Temple Square. Never send amateurs to do what a Florida lawyer can do better - find vice and fun within walking distance of the Mormon Temple!   Cynthia and I were separated at the Conference Center, but we each managed to sit by local Mormons and gleaned much information during the inaugural concert. The program:   Symphonie Concertante, op. 81 - Jongen (Todd Wilson and Temple Square Orchestra) Praise to the Lord, the Almighty - arr. Wilberg Rejoice, O Virgin from the Vespers - Rachmaninoff Chichester Psalms - Bernstein Hallelujah Chorus from Mount of Olives - Beethoven Come, thou fount of every blessing - arr. Wilberg   All but the first was with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and organists John Longhurst, Clay Christensen, and Richard Elliott. Words cannot describe the monumental job Todd Wilson did as ambassador for the organ. I noticed no distorted oboe section or whatever, but (1) I am an amateur, and (2) I was past saturation point on that score. I let the Jongen and the Bernstein wash over me like Niagara Falls - it was nothing short of wonderful.   One of the encores by the choir was a Nigerian piece that Rick and I had heard them sight read for the first time on our trip in May. They had learned it, "put the moves on it", and incorporated the percussion, and it was absolutely fun. They also pulled out the Battle Hymn of the Republic, and the a capella "God be with you 'til we meet again". I'm sure there was not a dry eye in the place.   Leaving the Conference Center I found myself walking beside our esteemed president Mr. Swann. I apologized for not earlier seeking absolution for my sin of not attending my own regional convention, and we had a nice chat about the conference and the upcoming Los Angeles National Convention. He has not had the opportunity to play the Conference Center organ, although he has performed in recital at the Tabernacle three times.   Following the concert was a gala rooftop reception replete with munchies and a Dixieland band. I spoke at some length to some of my newfound friends, including Michael Fox of the list. I ran into Todd Wilson and embarrassed myself and him by telling him how much I have drooled over his Durufle CD. Both Cynthia and I agreed that he appeared to have lost weight and looked haggard - more of my motherly instincts overreacting, I am sure. I bade my goodbyes.   The next morning we completed our ablutions and took an early morning shuttle to the airport for the trip home, exhausted but happy, except that Cynthia did not get to see the Great Salt Lake as we flew over it. On the plane to Dothan I sat next to one of our Army National Guard troops on his way home from a stint at Qatar. I almost fell asleep on the drive home from Dothan, and had to put on Cream and Stevie Ray Vaughn CDs and sing along to make it home. I fell asleep about 8:00 pm and did not stir for twelve hours - don't know if I snored or hummed "Come, come, ye saints".     Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: organists and organ-building From: "Michael Franch" <mvfranch@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:40:36 -0500   Here's Bud's email with just the capital words. See if it makes sense. I figured if the capital words are importment, the others are not. Read it. It's very interersting. I've been enlightened because of it. :)   Mike Franch in Madison, WI       >I DECADES (VAIN) LEAST ENOUGH NOT OR INSTRUMENTS   "BUILDER'S PLAY WANNA" > >VERY. > >I HAD CERTAIN VERY LOT > >MUSIC NOT GOOD > >NOISE BUTTONS ARE. > >LITERATURE SERVICE LITURGY YOU PERSONALLY   NOTHING OR THAT A LOT DO LOT > >TINY HUGE HUGE   BET EVERYTHING REQUIRED ALSO SINGLE. > >I SING. > >TWO "HE THAT THAT, SO CAN YOU!" > >DEEP. >   _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963    
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:54:26 EDT     --part1_93.3077d4e4.2c3e2f62_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 7/9/2003 9:34:31 PM Central Daylight Time, Keys4bach@aol.com writes:   > >> on a lovely 8' >> flute with tremulant ... guaranteed to raise the collection by at LEAST =   > > chimes are nice too....... > dale   Its funny that the tackiest stuff is most "effective". I once used chimes = to introduce "In The Garden" and it was well received. I usually use the = viola celeste with a 32' under it at least once per service-it makes me cry-lol gfc   --part1_93.3077d4e4.2c3e2f62_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 7/9/2003 9:34:31 PM Central = Dayligh=3D t Time, Keys4bach@aol.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE = style=3D =3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; = PAD=3D DING-LEFT: 5px">on a lovely 8' <BR> flute with tremulant ... guaranteed to raise the collection by at LEAST = </BL=3D OCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> chimes are nice too.......<BR> dale</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: = #ffffff" SIZE=3D =3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"> = </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Its funny that the = tackiest=3D20=3D stuff is most "effective".&nbsp; I once used chimes to introduce "In The = Gar=3D den" and it was well received.&nbsp; I usually use the viola celeste with = a=3D20=3D 32'&nbsp; under it at least once per service-it makes me cry-lol<BR> gfc</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D =3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_93.3077d4e4.2c3e2f62_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:17:55 -0500   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR><BR></P> <DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>You guys should SETTLE DOWN! I apologize for getting everybody riled = up! Let me try and clarify things and maybe you'll remove the noose from = around my neck. First off, of COURSE you don't NEED any 32's unless the = organ is large enough to demand their inclusion. It is of course nice to = have them to underpin the glorious sounds of the strings on "Sweet Hour of = Prayer" and to let the bombarde crown the end of a big hymn. Stop being so = stuffy, if I want a 32' and I can get a 32', why not have them? I really = don't care what people are doing in England with 2 1/2 ranks. Good for = them if they can play with all fingers and toes at once to fill out the = sound and make the organ sound like it's actually FIVE ranks! WHOO!<BR>My = pastor LOVES the good old gospel music, as do I, but I don't think a lot = of it should find its way into the Methodist service. Anything I can do to = make those traditional hymns more exciting to him and everyone else, I'd = like to be able to do. Is that too much to ask? N <P>As for the other comment about how our organ mishap in '83 happened, I = could not exactly tell you, because I don't know. But I played it for = quite a while before it was removed, and I know what it was like. = </P></DIV> <P>Should you have any other snide things to say, or would enjoy insulting = my intelligence further, why not just ask a question? Thanks!<BR></P> <DIV></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Tyler W. Robertson <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Organist, Handbell Choir Director,First United Methodist = Church, Temple, TX <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Organist, Baylor University Concert Choir <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Organist, Accompanist, Baylor University Women's Chorus <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>From: Keys4bach@aol.com <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>To: pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 22:31:54 EDT <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt; How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist worship = service? <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>As many as you can get. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>A flute for communion <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>a violone for offertory <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>and reed for everything else. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Dare i say 2 reeds, one in a box somewhere? <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>o my, put it on the wall right by my Vox in a box. <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>dale in Florida <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>Help STOP SPAM with <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2731??PS=3D">the new MSN 8 </a> and get = 2 months FREE*</html>  
(back) Subject: Capital words only From: "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 22:19:20 -0500   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P>LOL, Very nice!<BR><BR></P></DIV><BR><BR><BR>Tyler W. Robertson <DIV></DIV>Organist, Handbell Choir Director,First United Methodist = Church, Temple, TX <DIV></DIV>Organist, Baylor University Concert Choir <DIV></DIV>Organist, Accompanist, Baylor University Women's Chorus <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>From: "Michael Franch" <MVFRANCH@HOTMAIL.COM> <DIV></DIV>Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>To: pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Subject: Re: organists and organ-building <DIV></DIV>Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:40:36 -0500 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Here's Bud's email with just the capital words. See if it makes = sense. I figured if the capital words are importment, the others are not. = Read it. It's very interersting. I've been enlightened because of it. :) <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>Mike Franch <DIV></DIV>in Madison, WI <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;I DECADES (VAIN) LEAST ENOUGH NOT OR INSTRUMENTS <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>"BUILDER'S PLAY WANNA" <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;VERY. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;I HAD CERTAIN VERY LOT <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;MUSIC NOT GOOD <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;NOISE BUTTONS ARE. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;LITERATURE SERVICE LITURGY YOU PERSONALLY <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>NOTHING OR THAT A LOT DO LOT <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;TINY HUGE HUGE <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>BET EVERYTHING REQUIRED ALSO SINGLE. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;I SING. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;TWO "HE THAT THAT, SO CAN YOU!" <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;DEEP. <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>________________________________________________________________= _ <DIV></DIV>Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online = http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963 <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <DIV></DIV>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; = related topics <DIV></DIV>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>MSN 8 helps <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2752??PS=3D">ELIMINATE E-MAIL = VIRUSES.</a> Get 2 months FREE*.</html>  
(back) Subject: Re: Capital words only From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:31:42 -0700   (sprays Coke all over keyboard)   Tee hee!   Bud   Tyler Robertson wrote: > LOL, Very nice! > > > > > Tyler W. Robertson > Organist, Handbell Choir Director,First United Methodist Church, Temple, = TX > Organist, Baylor University Concert Choir > Organist, Accompanist, Baylor University Women's Chorus > From: "Michael Franch" > Reply-To: "PipeChat" > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Re: organists and organ-building > Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:40:36 -0500 > Here's Bud's email with just the capital words. See if it makes sense. I =   > figured if the capital words are importment, the others are not. Read > it. It's very interersting. I've been enlightened because of it. :) > Mike Franch > in Madison, WI > >I DECADES (VAIN) LEAST ENOUGH NOT OR INSTRUMENTS > "BUILDER'S PLAY WANNA" > > > >VERY. > > > >I HAD CERTAIN VERY LOT > > > >MUSIC NOT GOOD > > > >NOISE BUTTONS ARE. > > > >LITERATURE SERVICE LITURGY YOU PERSONALLY > NOTHING OR THAT A LOT DO LOT > > > >TINY HUGE HUGE > BET EVERYTHING REQUIRED ALSO SINGLE. > > > >I SING. > > > >TWO "HE THAT THAT, SO CAN YOU!" > > > >DEEP. > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963 > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > MSN 8 helps ELIMINATE E-MAIL VIRUSES. > <http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2752??PS=3D> Get 2 months FREE*."Pipe Up and = Be > Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: > mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 20:56:32 -0700       Keys4bach@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > >> How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist worship service? > > > > As many as you can get. > A flute for communion > a violone for offertory > and reed for everything else. > > Dare i say 2 reeds, one in a box somewhere?   Well of COURSE ... otherwise you can't accompany David McKay Williams' "In the Year That King Uzziah Died" (grin).   > o my, put it on the wall right by my Vox in a box. > > dale in Florida        
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com> Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2003 21:08:25 -0700 (PDT)   Jumping sects from Methodist to Presbyterian: 32' not necessary, but chimes are REQUIRED-- one MUST play Westminster chimes and toll the hour before the first hymn!   Cheers,   -Bill   --- quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > Keys4bach@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/9/2003 7:50:22 PM Eastern Daylight > Time, > > quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > > > >> How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist worship > service? > > > > > > > > As many as you can get. > > A flute for communion > > a violone for offertory > > and reed for everything else. > > > > Dare i say 2 reeds, one in a box somewhere? > > Well of COURSE ... otherwise you can't accompany David McKay > Williams' > "In the Year That King Uzziah Died" (grin). > > > o my, put it on the wall right by my Vox in a box. > > > > dale in Florida > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & > related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: the organ and the liturgy From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 21:13:06 -0700   There ARE no high Cs in Anglican choral music (chuckle), except for the Allegri Miserere, sung pianissimo by a boy (grin).   The classical, traditional Anglican liturgy is a MODEL of restraint and decorum, and that's the liturgy we practice.   Likewise an Anglican organ ... I will have 20 stops and 30 ranks initially, and 47 stops and 60 (?) ranks eventually. Stage One COULD serve the larger building, but it would require extensive revoicing and rescaling ... some of that will be have to be done in any case. The rackboards and toe-boards will be made to accommodate it.   I don't see all THAT much missing in Stage One:   SWELL   16' Gedeckt - 12 pipes 8' Open Diapason 8' open flute - prepared for 8' Gamba 8' Gedeckt 8' Celeste 4' Octave 4' Flute 2' piccolo - prepared for 2 2/3' Grave Mixture V 16' Bassoon - 12 pipes 8' Trompette 8' Oboe 8' vox humana - prepared for 4' clarion - prepared for   GREAT   16' Violone 8' Open Diapason 8' harmonic flute - prepared for 8' Violoncello - 12 pipes 8' Chimney Flute 8' Dulciana 4' Octave 4' flute - prepared for 2 2/3' Cornet III 2' super octave - prepared for 2' Full Mixture V 8' Cromorne; goes to Choir in Stage Two; replaced by 8' Trumpet   CHOIR - prepared for in console only   16' quintadena 8' open diapason 8' doppel flute 8' salicional 8' copula 8' quintadena - 12 pipes 8' ludwigtone 4' octave 4' flute 2 2/3' nazard 2' super octave 2' flute 1 3/5' tierce 1 1/3' acute mixture iv 16' english horn 8' english tuba 8' cornopean 8' cromorne   PEDAL   32' contra violone - 12 pipes - prepared for 32' Resultant - 12 quint pipes; replaced by 12 stopped 32' pipes in Stage Two 16' principal - prepared for 16' Sub Bass 16' Violone (gt) 16' Gedeckt (sw) 16' quintadena (ch) - prepared for 8' Octave Bass 8' Flute - 12 pipes 8' Violoncello (gt) 8' Gedeckt (sw) 4' Chorale Bass 4' Flute - 12 pipes 2' Flute - 12 pipes 2' mixture V - prepared for 32' contra trombone - 12 pipes - prepared for 16' trombone - prepared for 16' Bassoon (sw) 8' trumpet - prepared for 4' clarion - prepared for   I don't see MUCH literature that Stage One couldn't play, and virtually NONE that Stage TWO couldn't handle.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: the organ and the liturgy From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2003 23:29:25 -0500       quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > There ARE no high Cs in Anglican choral music (chuckle), except for the > Allegri Miserere, sung pianissimo by a boy (grin).   In the discussion of this work in the Book "European Sacred Music", edited by John Rutter, published by OUP with an ISBN 0-19-343695-7, Rutter argues persuasively that the bits containing the high C result from a mistranscription, and that they should be a fourth lower--a G.   ns