PipeChat Digest #3801 - Thursday, July 10, 2003
 
Re: electric organs
  by "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Re: 32's a requirement?--Yes!
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Bread and breads
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
interviews
  by "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu>
RE: Warped visions, warped trackers
  by "R.E. Malone" <remalone@btinternet.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by "Shelley Culver" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com>
Re: interviews
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Re: 32's a requirement?
  by "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@swbell.net>
RE: interviews
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
RE: Electronic communion wafers
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
RE: interviews
  by "Shelley Culver" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com>
Fekix Hell at Portland, Maine
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: interviews
  by "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu>
Mea Culpa
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: interviews
  by <Innkawgneeto@cs.com>
Appologies again
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: interviews
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
RE: interviews
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: electric organs From: "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:07:43 +0100   "Electric" organs?? Is this an effect I've been missing?   Cheryl     http://www.copemanhart.co.uk      
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement?--Yes! From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:28:11 EDT     --part1_135.226ad4f1.2c3ea7cb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   With all the talk about 32's, voxes, celestes, and chimes, we have also forgotten the ever important Harp.   The new pipe organ at my church (Baptist) is going to have five = 32's--three flues and two reeds, a 32' Cornet, two Voxes, a Tibia unit, two sets of chimes--one in the front and one in the Antiphonal, PLUS a Harp, Celesta, Glockenspiel, and 16 sets of Celestes--including an open flute celeste to = celeste with the Melodia in the Antiphonal! This of course, is all on top of a very = complete organ with two Principal choruses on the Great, Principals through = Mixtures on every manual, etc. We had the money and room for a lot of slush, so I included it in the design. For my church, we need the variety of stops = since the organ is expected to play big organ pieces for Prelude/Postlude, accompany =   childrens choirs, accompany one of many adult choirs, play underscore = music during Scripture reading/Prayers/Baptism, etc. Sure, we probably didn't need a = lot of what is on the organ, but it surely will increase the capability of = what it can do and it will definitely make it more musically interesting.   Monty Bennett   --part1_135.226ad4f1.2c3ea7cb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">With all the talk about 32's, voxes, celestes, = and chi=3D mes, we have also forgotten the ever important Harp.<BR> <BR> The new pipe organ at my church (Baptist) is going to have five = 32's--three=3D20=3D flues and two reeds, a 32' Cornet, two Voxes, a Tibia unit, two sets of = chim=3D es--one in the front and one in the Antiphonal, PLUS a Harp, Celesta, = Glocke=3D nspiel, and 16 sets of Celestes--including an open flute celeste to = celeste=3D20=3D with the Melodia in the Antiphonal!&nbsp; This of course, is all on top of = a=3D very complete organ with two Principal choruses on the Great, Principals = th=3D rough Mixtures on every manual, etc.&nbsp; We had the money and room for a = l=3D ot of slush, so I included it in the design.&nbsp; For my church, we need = th=3D e variety of stops since the organ is expected to play big organ pieces = for=3D20=3D Prelude/Postlude, accompany childrens choirs, accompany one of many adult = ch=3D oirs, play underscore music during Scripture reading/Prayers/Baptism, = etc.&n=3D bsp; Sure, we probably didn't need a lot of what is on the organ, but it = sur=3D ely will increase the capability of what it can do and it will definitely = ma=3D ke it more musically interesting.<BR> <BR> Monty Bennett</FONT></HTML>   --part1_135.226ad4f1.2c3ea7cb_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bread and breads From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 07:05:50 -0500     --------------070709010808040504020407 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii; format=3Dflowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit       Alan Freed wrote:   > On 7/9/03 4:51 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote: > > In a message dated 7/9/2003 1:44:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes: > > But then I once heard of a church that used Kool-Aid, but let's > not get into THAT!) > > Alan > > We had Oreo and milk day for racial awareness Sunday.... > > EUREUREURSomehow, I'm sure I want to know what you folks do on Gay > Pride Sunday. "Oreo and milk." Well, OK. I don't want to know > the name of your parish, but would I be out of line to inquire the > denomination? > Perhaps little triangular finger sandwiches - crusts cut off, of course - and something vintage, perhaps a Beaujelais. ;-)   I trust, hope, assume, your Oreos and milk were served somehow "love feast" style - and not actual substitutes for communion host?!?   We once had a wedding that failed to mention that they wanted communion until about 15 minutes before the ceremony. Mid-month - no communion supplies in the sacristy. We thawed out a frozen hot dog bun from the freezer, wrapped it up in a little linen cloth, and the challis - well, it was the "real thing" - Coke!   Margo     --------------070709010808040504020407 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" = content=3D"text/html;charset=3DISO-8859-1"> <title></title> </head> <body> <br> <br> Alan Freed wrote:<br> <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"midBB3202EF.A876%25acfreed0904@earthlink.net"> <title>Re: Bread and breads</title> <font face=3D"Times New Roman">On 7/9/03 4:51 PM, <a = class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" = href=3D"mailto:Keys4bach@aol.com">"Keys4bach@aol.com"</a> <a = class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" = href=3D"mailto:Keys4bach@aol.com">&lt;Keys4bach@aol.com&gt;</a> wrote:<br> <br> </font> <blockquote><font face=3D"Times New Roman">In a message dated 7/9/2003 = 1:44:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" = href=3D"mailto:acfreed0904@earthlink.net">acfreed0904@earthlink.net</a> = writes:<br> <br> But then I once heard of a church that used Kool-Aid, but let&#8217;s not = get into THAT!) &nbsp;<br> <br> Alan &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br> </font><font face=3D"Arial"><br> </font><font face=3D"Times New Roman">We had Oreo and milk day for racial awareness Sunday....<br> <br> &#8364;&#8364;&#8364;Somehow, I&#8217;m sure I want to know what you = folks do on Gay Pride Sunday. &nbsp;&#8220;Oreo and milk.&#8221; &nbsp;Well, OK. &nbsp;I don&#8217;t = want to know the name of your parish, but would I be out of line to inquire the denomination? &nbsp;<br> <br> </font></blockquote> </blockquote> Perhaps little triangular finger sandwiches - crusts cut off, of course - and something vintage, perhaps a Beaujelais. &nbsp; ;-)<br> <br> I trust, hope, assume, your Oreos and milk were served somehow "love = feast" style - and not actual substitutes for communion host?!?<br> <br> We once had a wedding that failed to mention that they wanted communion = until about 15 minutes before the ceremony. &nbsp;Mid-month - no communion = supplies in the sacristy. &nbsp;We thawed out a frozen hot dog bun from the = freezer, wrapped it up in a little linen cloth, and the challis - well, it was the "real = thing" - Coke!<br> <br> Margo<br> <br> </body> </html>   --------------070709010808040504020407--    
(back) Subject: interviews From: "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:23:50 -0400   A couple of days ago I interviewed for a position as music director at a Catholic Church. Haven't interviewed for anything for quite a while, particularly not in a Catholic Church, and I'm left with a couple of questions.   1. The interviewers were insistent that the organist must be able 1) to sing solos and 2) sing into a microphone along with congregation for hymns. Is this common practice? The interviewers seemed to think that this is the only way to get the congregation to sing!   2. The position is listed as part-time: 2 choirs (adult and family choir), bell choir, 4 Masses each weekend, availability for all funerals (approximately 45-50 annually), weddings, staff meetings, worship meetings, budget management, etc. Of course, the music director must be available for other services as well throughout the year that do not occur on weekends. The responsibilities seemed a little heavy for part-time.   Any comments or insights would be appreciated.   Thanks,     MARGARETE THOMSEN `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ Director of Music Director: Redford Youth Choir Good Shepherd Lutheran Church Redford, Michigan    
(back) Subject: RE: Warped visions, warped trackers From: "R.E. Malone" <remalone@btinternet.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:29:22 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0070_01C346E7.468B9B90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello all,     I would like Tyler to supply, if possible the original Pilcher spec. How anyone could expect a great organ with only two 8' ranks to support a = swell with one 16' and six 8' ranks beggars belief.     As to his comments about English Organs and choral traditions, the only comment I can make while respecting list rules is:     "Ignorance is bliss"     Regards.     Richard   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital = organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0070_01C346E7.468B9B90 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <html>   <head> <META HTTP-EQUIV=3D3D"Content-Type" CONTENT=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dus-ascii">     <meta name=3D3DGenerator content=3D3D"Microsoft Word 10 (filtered)">   <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal {margin:0cm; margin-bottom:.0001pt; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:blue; text-decoration:underline;} p {margin-right:0cm; margin-left:0cm; font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle18 {font-family:Arial; color:navy;} @page Section1 {size:612.0pt 792.0pt; margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;} div.Section1 {page:Section1;} --> </style>   </head>   <body lang=3D3DEN-US link=3D3Dblue vlink=3D3Dblue>   <div class=3D3DSection1>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Hello all,</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>I would like </span></font><font color=3D3Dnavy><span style=3D3D'color:navy'>Tyler</span></font><font =3D color=3D3Dnavy><span style=3D3D'color:navy'> to supply, if possible the original Pilcher spec. = =3D How anyone could expect a great organ with only two 8&#8217; ranks to =3D support a swell with one 16&#8217; and &nbsp;six 8&#8217; ranks beggars =3D belief.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>As to his comments about English = =3D Organs and choral traditions, the only comment I can make while respecting list =3D rules is:</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&#8220;Ignorance is =3D bliss&#8221;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Regards.</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>   <p class=3D3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3D3 color=3D3Dnavy face=3D3D"Times New = =3D Roman"><span style=3D3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Richard </span></font>&nbsp;</p>   </div>   </body>   </html> "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org ------=3D_NextPart_000_0070_01C346E7.468B9B90--    
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: "Shelley Culver" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:01:41 -0400 (EDT)     >chimes are REQUIRED-- one MUST play Westminster chimes and toll the hour = before the first hymn!   You do that? I'm Presbyterian and we never use chimes! I wish we would. = The only time we use the chimes are on Easter, after the service. At my = Presbyterian college (Westminster College), we have the Westminster chimes = 4 times an hour.   Shelley   "It is often just as sacred to laugh as it is to pray."       _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!  
(back) Subject: Re: interviews From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:14:32 EDT     --part1_118.26379617.2c3ec0b8_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Not serving in a RC church but rather hearing from others who do, many of =   them sing into a microphone as they play (I suppose they double as = cantors?).   Yes, that is a bit heavy for a part-time position.   Neil By The Bay   --part1_118.26379617.2c3ec0b8_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Not serving in a RC church but rather hearing = from oth=3D ers who do,&nbsp; many of them sing into a microphone as they play (I = suppos=3D e they double as cantors?).<BR> <BR> Yes, that is a bit heavy for a part-time position.<BR> <BR> Neil By The Bay</FONT></HTML>   --part1_118.26379617.2c3ec0b8_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: 32's a requirement? From: "Brent Johnson" <brentmj@swbell.net> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:26:57 -0500   Bud, That reminds me of a church I know with dual consoles. The Gallery = console isn't as on display to the public, so the tech labeled the 32' Flute drawknob with the description that the organist asked for during the = design of the organ: Come To Jesus 32' It's a good description. Brent Johnson The Organ Classifieds http://www.organclassifieds.com The Organ Web Ring http://www.geocities.com/organwebring       ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: 32's a requirement?     > At LEAST one (grin). > > See, you couple all the strings and celestes together at 16-8-4, put on > the 32' Bourdon, and solo out "Sweet Hour of Prayer" on a lovely 8' > flute with tremulant ... guaranteed to raise the collection by at LEAST > 15% (chuckle). > > Bud, who does it occasionally in the ANGLICAN Church, and has NO shame > (grin). > > Gfc234@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 7/9/2003 5:06:49 PM Central Daylight Time, > > TubaMagna@aol.com writes: > > > >> How many 32' stops are required for the Methodist worship service? > > > > > > > > or any for that matter. > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: RE: interviews From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:01:18 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Hi, Since I don't live in the USA I cannot give a valid opinion in this. But following called strongly to my attention:   > 1. The interviewers were insistent that the organist must be able 1) > to sing solos and 2) sing into a microphone along with congregation for > hymns. Is this common practice? The interviewers seemed to think that > this is the only way to get the congregation to sing!   QUESTION: Is this a hispanic church or at least attended by a hispanic majority?- in this case it makes sense. In most latin-american catholic churches it's a *must* for an organist to play and sing into a microphone along with the congregation.   Just curious Andres    
(back) Subject: RE: Electronic communion wafers From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:09:58 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   > Developing Matzoh as a leather substitute for pneumatics...   That made my day!!! Andres Just starting to read wind pressure in "wine column" instead of "water column"... couldn't resist :)      
(back) Subject: RE: interviews From: "Shelley Culver" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 09:51:19 -0400 (EDT)     >1. The interviewers were insistent that the organist must be able 1) to sing solos and 2) sing into a microphone along with congregation for hymns. Is this common practice? The interviewers seemed to think that this is the only way to get the congregation to sing!   I know relatively little about Catholic churches or services. = However, one of my best friends is the music director at a quite large = Catholic church near where we go to college. I've been a guest = instrumentalist there several times. and it's always interesting to watch = him. He does not have an organ - the church is currently in the process of = obtaining a new pipe organ. Matt uses a keyboard and, yes, sings into a = microphone as does the canter. They're the only two people you can hear = singing, and as he is in the back balcony of the church and she stands in = the front of the church, they are very often NOT together. He also sings = solos while playing.   >2. The position is listed as part-time: 2 choirs (adult and family choir), bell choir, 4 Masses each weekend, availability for all funerals (approximately 45-50 annually), weddings, staff meetings, worship meetings, budget management, etc. Of course, the music director must be available for other services as well throughout the year that do not occur on weekends. The responsibilities seemed a little heavy for part-time.   I agree with you there! Sounds a bit full time to me, but what do I = know?   Good luck! Shelley       _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!  
(back) Subject: Fekix Hell at Portland, Maine From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:08:39 -0400   Since I have not seen any posts on this as yet, and Malcolm was unable to attend, I will venture to say a few words about Felix's performance on the Kotzschmar Organ in Portland Maine. There were in excess of 600 people attending this concert in the Merrill Auditorium of the Portland City Hall, and an appreciative audience it was, although too eager at times applauding between movements of the Mendelssohn Sonata and the Guilmant. To me, IMHO, Felix played flawlessly and gave a perfectly wonderful recital. I hope that someone more "musical" will review the performances as I don't really feel qualified.   Suffice it to say that it was an awesome recital on an awesome organ in excellent condition and with its new impressive five manual console. The program is listed on the Friends of the Kotzschmar Organ web site <www.foco.org>   This was well worth the drive from Boston to hear. Hans Hell told me after the recital Felix will be recording the complete Mendelssohn organ works on the Methuen Organ this Fall, and on completion, will give a concert playing all the Sonatas. Something to really look forward to.   Cheers, Mack    
(back) Subject: Re: interviews From: "Margarete Thomsen" <mthomsen@umich.edu> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:11:54 -0400     On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 10:01 AM, Andr=E9s G=FCnther wrote:   > QUESTION: Is this a hispanic church or at least attended by a hispanic > majority?- in this case it makes sense. In most latin-american = catholic > churches it's a *must* for an organist to play and sing into a=20 > microphone > along with the congregation. >   Not hispanic; just plain ol' anglo-saxon middle class america.   I guess what I don't understand is why my Lutheran congregation whose=20 number vary from 50-75 on any given weekend can sing lustily without my=20=   singing into a microphone (don't even have one!). Are Catholics=20 incapable?   Margarete > Just curious > Andres > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Mea Culpa From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:13:41 -0400   I appologize to Felix, Hans, and all readers that I did not see the miztake in the subject line :-[ But knowing these lists I am sure I will hear plenty about it.   Cheers Mack      
(back) Subject: Re: interviews From: <Innkawgneeto@cs.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:15:57 EDT     --part1_109.259c2925.2c3ecf1d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     > Are Catholics incapable?   Not incapable, but congregational singing is not a vibrant tradition in RC = as it is in many protestant churches.   Neil   --part1_109.259c2925.2c3ecf1d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Are Catholics = incapable?</BLOCK=3D QUOTE><BR> <BR> Not incapable, but congregational singing is not a vibrant tradition in RC = a=3D s it is in many protestant churches.<BR> <BR> Neil</FONT></HTML>   --part1_109.259c2925.2c3ecf1d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Appologies again From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 10:18:50 -0400   I seem to be having a number of Senior Moments this morning, I have also posted the wrong web address. The correct URL is www.foko.org.   Mack    
(back) Subject: Re: interviews From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 08:09:38 -0700   Um, did you notice the big eye-hooks on the console? Those are for the shackles (grin).   RUN, do not walk, in the opposite direction, unless they're paying $100K per annum.   Yeah, they're big on the lounge-act with the microphones.   Cheers,   Bud, who won't do another RC gig on a BET   Margarete Thomsen wrote: > A couple of days ago I interviewed for a position as music director at a =   > Catholic Church. Haven't interviewed for anything for quite a while, > particularly not in a Catholic Church, and I'm left with a couple of > questions. > > 1. The interviewers were insistent that the organist must be able 1) > to sing solos and 2) sing into a microphone along with congregation for > hymns. Is this common practice? The interviewers seemed to think that > this is the only way to get the congregation to sing! > > 2. The position is listed as part-time: 2 choirs (adult and family > choir), bell choir, 4 Masses each weekend, availability for all funerals =   > (approximately 45-50 annually), weddings, staff meetings, worship > meetings, budget management, etc. Of course, the music director must be =   > available for other services as well throughout the year that do not > occur on weekends. The responsibilities seemed a little heavy for > part-time. > > Any comments or insights would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > MARGARETE THOMSEN > `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ > Director of Music Director: > Redford Youth Choir > Good Shepherd Lutheran Church > Redford, Michigan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >        
(back) Subject: RE: interviews From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 11:18:32 -0400   Margaret,   The fact that they want you to sing is probably a sign that their choirs = and cantors are not very good. In the Catholic churches I've been in that = have decent choir and cantors they have never asked the organist to sing. = Also, it it way to high of a workload for part-time. Sounds like they are being cheap. I would stay away from this position if I were you. Too many red flags.   Andrew Meagher   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Margarete Thomsen Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 8:24 AM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: interviews     A couple of days ago I interviewed for a position as music director at a Catholic Church. Haven't interviewed for anything for quite a while, particularly not in a Catholic Church, and I'm left with a couple of questions.   1. The interviewers were insistent that the organist must be able 1) to sing solos and 2) sing into a microphone along with congregation for hymns. Is this common practice? The interviewers seemed to think that this is the only way to get the congregation to sing!   2. The position is listed as part-time: 2 choirs (adult and family choir), bell choir, 4 Masses each weekend, availability for all funerals (approximately 45-50 annually), weddings, staff meetings, worship meetings, budget management, etc. Of course, the music director must be available for other services as well throughout the year that do not occur on weekends. The responsibilities seemed a little heavy for part-time.   Any comments or insights would be appreciated.   Thanks,     MARGARETE THOMSEN `~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~`~ Director of Music Director: Redford Youth Choir Good Shepherd Lutheran Church Redford, Michigan   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org