PipeChat Digest #3814 - Monday, July 14, 2003
 
Re: Ocean Grove Auditorium Recitals
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Ocean Grove Auditorium Recitals
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
French liturgical music, 18th century
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Trinity IV (x-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Trinity IV (x-posted)
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
The Rev. Fr. Mr. Deacon Jones
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music
  by "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com>
20th century trumpet and organ music-Ashdown
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Organ at a Seminary in Florida
  by "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com>
Organ at a Seminary in Florida
  by "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com>
RE: Trinity IV (x-posted)
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
hiring an associate organist/choirmaster
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Ocean Grove Auditorium Recitals From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 07:10:29 -0500   Oboe32@aol.com wrote:   > Hey All,   > The Summer series of Organ Recitals has begun at the Ocean Grove > Auditorium.   <snip>   > More information, and additional concerts can be found on the Ocean > Grove site..... Ocean Grove Website!   The link is no good. Try again?   Faithfully,   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS    
(back) Subject: Re: Ocean Grove Auditorium Recitals From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:38:06 EDT   Richard, i've tried that link from the email several times and it continues to work, its www.oceangrove.org keep trying the email or try typing it in.  
(back) Subject: French liturgical music, 18th century From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:43:47 -0400   Randy and Bud--But I'd be very grateful to hear from anyone else as well:   My absolute favorite parish organist on this planet, Pedro d'Aquino at = Saint Luke's (www.stlukesnyc.org for photos, bio, etc., on him), asked me this morning at coffee hour whether I could find a person who might be a = resource on the subject line above.   He mentioned Louis XIV's court at Versailles and daily masses, and that = he's getting INTO this subject. I think he'd like some resources or something. (Then we got pulled apart by other persons with other concerns.)   I can't ask Bud or Randy or anyone else to serve as a reference librarian for a third party, nonlister. So, on the chance that a post on the = subject, or an offer to talk about it, would helpful for listpersons here, I'd love to have any advice posted here, for me to pass on to him. That way, the info will be list-public, and the transgression will be MINE.   But if you want to talk to Pedro yourself, you MAY go to cantor@stlukesnyc.org   Thanks awfully,   Alan bcc'd to Pedro    
(back) Subject: Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:47:33 EDT   In a message dated 7/10/03 10:44:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CromorneCipher@hotmail.com writes:   << I was wondering if I could get your help in finding some top drawer 20th century trumpet and organ music. >>   Since I haven't seen many responses to your post, I'll add my little bit of knowledge. There used to be a book around called "Organ Plus" which listed lots of pieces for organ and other instruments. If you can locate a copy of that, it'll at least give you titles of pieces (as far as the quality of the pieces go, that's another story).   I've sort of amassed a collection of music for organ and other instruments, since many of these pieces are useful in a church setting, and although I'm a woodwind player, I'm not adverse to stealing other literature. Trumpet stuff I'll do on oboe or soprano sax, horn stuff on English horn or alto sax, and trombone stuff on bassoon. Obviously, not all brass stuff will work on woodwinds, but it's sometimes difficult to realize that until the rehearsal with the organ.   I don't know where you're located, but I've found a few music stores around the country which have decent organ departments and a knowledgeable staff who know the literature (I used to be in one of the service bands in DC and travelled all over the country too many times). In looking for decent works for organ and instrument, I would stay away from the instrumental department since much of the music (organ +) in that department tends to be geared to middle school kids, and then only stuff based on hymn tunes with no real creativity behind the accompaniments (designed for less than competent accompaniments & so one accompaniment can be used for several different instrumental parts). The music stores that come to mind with a fair amount of organ + music are Dale Music in Silver Spring, MD, Byron-Hoyt in San Francisco, Grote's (sp?) in Charlotte, and another in Kansas City whose name I can't remember. If you know of any stores with decent organ departments, you might want to contact them to see what they might recommend.   If you let me know exactly what kind of stuff you're looking for, I'll see what I have that might fit the bill.   Richard in Baltimore  
(back) Subject: Trinity IV (x-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 13:55:01 -0700   St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church 2300 Ford Road (corner of Bonita Canyon and Prairie Roads) Newport Beach CA USA   The Rev'd Stephen C. Scarlett, Rector The Rev'd Richard L. Stapp, assisting The Rev'd Messrs Robert Blythin, David Brounstein, Deacons Mr. Barton Dellinger, Dr. Jeffrey Lehman, Dr. Scott Thelander, Lay-Readers Mr. Raymond H. ("Bud") Clark, Organist/Choirmaster Mr. George Pavlov, Chanter   Sung Mass at 9 a.m. Mr. David Simmons, Guest Organist   Voluntary - Andante sostenuto - Charles Macpherson Processional Hymn - Immortal, Invisible - St. Denio Setting - Merbecke / Scottish Chant Canticle - Benedictus es, Domine - Stanley in G Alleluia - Deus, qui sedes - Gregorian, Mode 6 Offertory - Illumina - C. Rossini / Clark Communion - Dominus firmamentum - Dr. Willan Psalm 91 - Qui habitat - Resurrection tone Communion Hymn - What A Friend We Have In Jesus - Erie Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Recessional Hymn - God of Grace and God of Glory - Cwm Rhondda Voluntary - Concerto in a minor - Vivaldi/Bach   David plays an EXCELLENT service ... he transposed, improvised chant accompaniments, improvised free hymn accompaniments, and improvised the versets during the communion psalm without batting an eye. Good, solid, steady hymn-playing ... he phrased every verse according to the words, and BREATHED with the congregation.   I HOPE they're going to offer him the position of Associate Organist-Choirmaster.   High Mass at 11 a.m. Yr Humble Servant at the console (grin)   Voluntary - Lord, All My Heart Is Fixed On Thee - Krebs Processional Hymn - Immortal, Invisible - St. Denio Introit - Exaudi - Dr. Willan Setting - Mass IX / Scottish Chant Gradual - Protector noster - Dr. Willan Alleluia - Deus, qui sedes - Gregorian, Mode 6 Offertory - Illumina - C. Rossini / Clark Communion - Dominus firmamentum - Dr. Willan Psalm 91 - Qui habitat - Resurrection tone Communion Hymn - What A Friend We Have In Jesus - Erie Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Recessional Hymn - God of Grace and God of Glory - Cwm Rhondda Voluntary - Jesu, All My Gladness - Walther   Good church was had by all; place was full at 9:00; took ALL of Psalm 91 WITH partitas after each pair of verses to cover communion, but we were missing a eucharistic minister.   The air-conditioner in the choir loft was stuck on "frenzy", but after the place filled up it didn't matter (chuckle) ... we were glad of it .... hot and muggy outside.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Trinity IV (x-posted) From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 16:07:30 -0500   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church > 2300 Ford Road (corner of Bonita Canyon and Prairie Roads) > Newport Beach CA USA > > The Rev'd Stephen C. Scarlett, Rector > The Rev'd Richard L. Stapp, assisting > The Rev'd Messrs Robert Blythin, David Brounstein, Deacons   Now it is interesting that you follow the Roman Catholic convention of referring to the Deacons as "The Reverend Mister", while referring to Priests as "The Reverend Father" or just "The Reverend".   The traditional Anglican convention is to use "The Reverend" if the Christian name is used, and "The Reverend Mister" if it isn't. Thus, "The Reverend Stephen Scarlett" =3D "The Reverend Mister Scarlett" and this convention would be used whether referring to Deacons or Priests.   I wonder how many Anglican churches are now referring to their clergy in this way.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:18:12 EDT   Hi, Y'all!   Pat, specifically, mentioned the David German "Trumpet Tune" as a viable piece for the combination of organ and solo trumpet. I have played the = German piece a zillion times for recitals, weddings, postludes, demonstrations, = etc., but only once did I try to play it with a "live" trumpeter. I think it's a = better solo organ piece.   Another piece I often do with a trumpeter who has good skill with the flugelhorn is the "Gabriel's Oboe" as transcribed by Wilma Jensen. This is = published Ardvaark Music, and available from Lois Fyfe Music here in Nashville. This =   melody comes from the movie, "The Mission." Even if you don't perform = "Gabriel's Oboe," check out the movie or the c.d. of the movie music for some great = film music.   If the questioner refers in his original note to music that was composed = for the organ and trumpet, then the field narrows significantly, however, = there are some wonderful derangements/editions of classical and popular = melodies. Richard Morris (now O-in-R at Spivey Hall) traveled for years with a = trumpeter in his "Toccatas and Flourishes" concerts. Perhaps Richard could be a = resource for some material.   How about the Petr Eben suite? Janette Fishell has a wonderful reading of this challenging piece on her all-Eben C.D. from St. George's here in = Nashville.   On the page of materials from the Guild, the "Organ Plus" compendium will provide yet another group of resources for this grouping. And, it will = help the Guild with the profit from the sale of the book. In fact, the Guild has = some very wonderful new DVD's available now, too.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: The Rev. Fr. Mr. Deacon Jones From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:34:24 -0400   On 7/13/03 5:07 PM, "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote:   > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > >> St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church >> >> The Rev'd Stephen C. Scarlett, Rector >> The Rev'd Richard L. Stapp, assisting >> The Rev'd Messrs Robert Blythin, David Brounstein, Deacons > > Now it is interesting that you follow the Roman Catholic convention of > referring to the Deacons as "The Reverend Mister", while referring to > Priests as "The Reverend Father" or just "The Reverend".   Among (at least my stripe of) Lutherans in the 1950s, I think "The Rev. Mr." was for "deacons" who were not "ordained" deacons (or upward), but simply "deacons of the mass" even though not being in that order. An ordained presbyter, serving as deacon of the mass, would be "The Rev. Jon Row," or "The Rev. Fr. Jon Row." Does that help, or just screw it up? > > The traditional Anglican convention is to use "The Reverend" if the > Christian name is used, and "The Reverend Mister" if it isn't.   No fault with that, for sure; you've got to have either a Christian name or a "title" ("Mr." or "Fr."), just on purely grammatical grounds. But can't you also have both, if you wish?   > Thus, > "The Reverend Stephen Scarlett" = "The Reverend Mister Scarlett" and > this convention would be used whether referring to Deacons or Priests.   Well, yes; but the first one would be a "first" reference, and the second one would be acceptable only on a subsequent reference. No?   Thus, on first reference: "The Rt. Hon. Joe Blow, Charlatan" but subsequent references could be "Mr. Blow," or "His Lordship," or (quite unnecessarily) "The Rt. Hon. Mr. Blow."   Certainly, in the parish bulletin, everything is a "first reference" by definition. > Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:24:34 -0400   Re: the request for 20th organ/trumpet pieces -- don't forget Franklin Ashdown's "Requiem for the Challenger," published by Pro-Motion, #90235. Not an easy piece, but I think well worth doing. No transcribing necessary -- it's written for organ and trumpet. I first heard it on WCNY-FM, our public radio station, so I know it's been recorded.   Steve Best in Utica, NY    
(back) Subject: 20th century trumpet and organ music-Ashdown From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:17:15 -0400   Dear List,   May I, for emphasis, do a forbidden "me too" posting about the Ashdown. Kent Tritle performed this work with Scott McIntosh (fabulous trumpet) at a concert this past season, and I, for one, will never forget it. Please consider it. It is spellbinding.   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 8:24 PM Subject: Re: 20th century trumpet and organ music     > Re: the request for 20th organ/trumpet pieces -- don't forget Franklin > Ashdown's "Requiem for the Challenger," published by Pro-Motion, #90235. > Not an easy piece, but I think well worth doing. No transcribing > necessary -- it's written for organ and trumpet. I first heard it on > WCNY-FM, our public radio station, so I know it's been recorded. > > Steve Best in Utica, NY >      
(back) Subject: Organ at a Seminary in Florida From: "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:48:11 -0700 (PDT)   If the organ does not sound good, contact the representative who needs to = contact the tuner/voicer to see what is the trouble instead of = complaining. From the factory, without proper setting up, any organ might = not sound good. Apparently this organ needs some attention. Lee   Sand Lawn <glawn@jam.rr.com> wrote:It would help if we all could pay = attention to the subject line... It's easy to change the subject line when = making a reply that is not on the original topic, but bringing on a new = topic... sorry to be so tetchy tonight.... dreamed of Cantors all evening = last night.... LOL. Sand PS. Leaving all of what I just received ... no wonder I am constantly in = a confused state. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Freed To: PipeChat Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: Re: THE Wedding     On 7/12/03 10:43 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote:   I live in Florida and they really dont sound that good. Especially the Orlando Seminary was a disappointment.   thanks   dale in Florida   Dale: What ARE you talking about? What doesn=92t sound that good? = There=92s a seminary in Orlando? Who runs it? Come on! A bit of a clue = (=94context=94?) here would help!   Is this about pink flamingos?   Alan (who realizes it may be the fault of others [me] who don=92t adjust = subject lines)         --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.  
(back) Subject: Organ at a Seminary in Florida From: "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 18:48:15 -0700 (PDT)   If the organ does not sound good, contact the representative who needs to = contact the tuner/voicer to see what is the trouble instead of = complaining. From the factory, without proper setting up, any organ might = not sound good. Apparently this organ needs some attention. Lee   Sand Lawn <glawn@jam.rr.com> wrote:It would help if we all could pay = attention to the subject line... It's easy to change the subject line when = making a reply that is not on the original topic, but bringing on a new = topic... sorry to be so tetchy tonight.... dreamed of Cantors all evening = last night.... LOL. Sand PS. Leaving all of what I just received ... no wonder I am constantly in = a confused state. ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Freed To: PipeChat Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2003 9:50 PM Subject: Re: THE Wedding     On 7/12/03 10:43 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote:   I live in Florida and they really dont sound that good. Especially the Orlando Seminary was a disappointment.   thanks   dale in Florida   Dale: What ARE you talking about? What doesn=92t sound that good? = There=92s a seminary in Orlando? Who runs it? Come on! A bit of a clue = (=94context=94?) here would help!   Is this about pink flamingos?   Alan (who realizes it may be the fault of others [me] who don=92t adjust = subject lines)         --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.  
(back) Subject: RE: Trinity IV (x-posted) From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 21:48:08 -0400   Bud,   Don't you getr any say as to who gets the position of associate organist/choirmaster?   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of quilisma@socal.rr.com Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2003 4:55 PM To: anglican-music@list.stsams.org; AnglicanMusicLiturgyandControversy; organchat; PipeChat Subject: Trinity IV (x-posted)     St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church 2300 Ford Road (corner of Bonita Canyon and Prairie Roads) Newport Beach CA USA   The Rev'd Stephen C. Scarlett, Rector The Rev'd Richard L. Stapp, assisting The Rev'd Messrs Robert Blythin, David Brounstein, Deacons Mr. Barton Dellinger, Dr. Jeffrey Lehman, Dr. Scott Thelander, Lay-Readers Mr. Raymond H. ("Bud") Clark, Organist/Choirmaster Mr. George Pavlov, Chanter   Sung Mass at 9 a.m. Mr. David Simmons, Guest Organist   Voluntary - Andante sostenuto - Charles Macpherson Processional Hymn - Immortal, Invisible - St. Denio Setting - Merbecke / Scottish Chant Canticle - Benedictus es, Domine - Stanley in G Alleluia - Deus, qui sedes - Gregorian, Mode 6 Offertory - Illumina - C. Rossini / Clark Communion - Dominus firmamentum - Dr. Willan Psalm 91 - Qui habitat - Resurrection tone Communion Hymn - What A Friend We Have In Jesus - Erie Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Recessional Hymn - God of Grace and God of Glory - Cwm Rhondda Voluntary - Concerto in a minor - Vivaldi/Bach   David plays an EXCELLENT service ... he transposed, improvised chant accompaniments, improvised free hymn accompaniments, and improvised the versets during the communion psalm without batting an eye. Good, solid, steady hymn-playing ... he phrased every verse according to the words, and BREATHED with the congregation.   I HOPE they're going to offer him the position of Associate Organist-Choirmaster.   High Mass at 11 a.m. Yr Humble Servant at the console (grin)   Voluntary - Lord, All My Heart Is Fixed On Thee - Krebs Processional Hymn - Immortal, Invisible - St. Denio Introit - Exaudi - Dr. Willan Setting - Mass IX / Scottish Chant Gradual - Protector noster - Dr. Willan Alleluia - Deus, qui sedes - Gregorian, Mode 6 Offertory - Illumina - C. Rossini / Clark Communion - Dominus firmamentum - Dr. Willan Psalm 91 - Qui habitat - Resurrection tone Communion Hymn - What A Friend We Have In Jesus - Erie Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Recessional Hymn - God of Grace and God of Glory - Cwm Rhondda Voluntary - Jesu, All My Gladness - Walther   Good church was had by all; place was full at 9:00; took ALL of Psalm 91 WITH partitas after each pair of verses to cover communion, but we were missing a eucharistic minister.   The air-conditioner in the choir loft was stuck on "frenzy", but after the place filled up it didn't matter (chuckle) ... we were glad of it .... hot and muggy outside.   Cheers,   Bud     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: hiring an associate organist/choirmaster From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2003 19:13:16 -0700       andrew meagher wrote: > Bud, > > Don't you getr any say as to who gets the position of associate > organist/choirmaster? >   Yes, I do; I've already turned thumbs-down on two (chuckle); the question is MONEY ... they all LIKED David; they have to come up with the money to PAY him, and our budget year starts in January.   Cheers,   Bud