PipeChat Digest #3816 - Wednesday, July 16, 2003
 
Ocean Grove Recital 7/16
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: Johannus Organs
  by "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com>
Re: Johannus Organs
  by "Jim Pitts" <wurlibird1@hot.rr.com>
St. Alban's International Competition
  by "Jim Clouser" <CromorneCipher@hotmail.com>
 

(back) Subject: Ocean Grove Recital 7/16 From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 11:36:23 EDT   Good Day All...   I hope some listers can come down to hear the organ in the Grove and its Titulaire playing tomorow evening! Gordon is always amazing on the organ, as it is partly his child, and he knows it so well. With upwards of 50 ranks of strings, every mutation known to man, and 9 divisions, 5 of which of enclosed, the organ plays a great deal of repertoire. Gordon's playing is also technically superb and stylistically accurate. For more info on the Grove and the Organ, check the website, complete with a spec and concert schedule. WWW.OCEANGROVE.ORG   A brief aside... I went shopping last evening at a "Borders Book Store", and for the first time ever, I saw an organ magazine in the magazine rack. Yes that's right... Border's Books has "Choir and Organ" mixed in the music section! See that... we're taking over the world!   My Best, Pete Isherwood   Wednesday, July the 16th, 2003 Organ Recital, 7:30pm Featuring Dr. Gordon Turk, Artist in Residence Playing the Hope-Jones V/170  
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 18:03:30 -0400   Jim,   Interestingly, I think what you call that hard Germanic sound is exactly what I like, so I wonder if Johannus has already altered the sound of their CDs. I had difficulty articulating a description of what I heard and have been able to do no better than the word "cottony," as if I was hearing the sound through some kind of fabric stuffed into my ears. (Not enough upper harmonics to suit me, I guess.)   Your point about the recordings and voicing is well taken, though. From a different standpoint on the recordings it was interesting to see what the respective manufacturers choose to put out there from a marketing perspective as far as selections, quality of performance, etc. It's difficult to not be influenced by their obvious attempts to reach their target markets, too. Or perhaps that influence is a perfectly valid thing to use in the decision process.   Emily A.   Subject: Re: Johannus Organs From: "Jim Pitts" <wurlibird1@hot.rr.com> Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 12:43:10 -0700   In the spirit of your disclaimer, Emily, I do not wish a debate on this topic, either. I will comment on promotional CD's as a means to judge organs. There are some good ones and some (most?) not so good as many factors enter into the recording which need not be enumerated here. Johannus is a product of the Netherlands and the factory voicers seem to favor a rather hard Germanic approach. Many of the demo CD's produced by Johannus feature this temperament and timber which, like you and your husband, I do not find tonally pleasing. It is good to know that factory voicing is temporary and the organ can be voiced into the circle of satisfaction for any organist not predisposed to condemn it merely for being digital and not pipes. I do not wish to debate this subject either as it has been flogged far too often with the same predictable results.   In conclusion, I think digital organ builders may do themselves a great disservice in relaying on recorded CD's to expose the tonal capabilities of their product. In the case of Johannus, I am rather certain of it when their organs will be compared on this continent with others that employ the more traditional American Classic tonal scheme. It is my understanding (but not yet confirmed) that Johannus recognizes this and is taking appropriate measures for organs shipped to the United States. I am not attempting to defend Johannus Organs against any personal preferences one may hold, but merely to point out that what one hears on a CD is not what one is ultimately are relegated to accept in the finished instrument. I have every confidence this is true among all major makes of digital organs manufactured today.   Best wishes, Jim Pitts      
(back) Subject: Re: Johannus Organs From: "Jim Pitts" <wurlibird1@hot.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2003 22:48:02 -0700   Hi Emily,   Thanks for the clarifying post on voicing preference. It serves to reinforce the perils of assumption which I confess were employed in reponding to your earlier message. Those upper harmonics are "in there" and it is unfortunate that the recording did not reflect their presence. But enough of that.   I trust that you have or will soon make a selection which is tonally pleasing and will be a joy to own and play. I can remember the days when selecting a reasonable substitute for pipes was restricted to one or two organ brands. It is a very nice to have arrived in 2003 with a much wider variety to consider.   Very best wishes, JimPitts   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 3:03 PM Subject: Re: Johannus Organs     > Jim, > > Interestingly, I think what you call that hard Germanic sound is exactly > what I like, so I wonder if Johannus has already altered the sound of their > CDs. I had difficulty articulating a description of what I heard and have > been able to do no better than the word "cottony," as if I was hearing the > sound through some kind of fabric stuffed into my ears. (Not enough upper > harmonics to suit me, I guess.) > > Your point about the recordings and voicing is well taken, though. From a > different standpoint on the recordings it was interesting to see what the > respective manufacturers choose to put out there from a marketing > perspective as far as selections, quality of performance, etc. It's > difficult to not be influenced by their obvious attempts to reach their > target markets, too. Or perhaps that influence is a perfectly valid thing to > use in the decision process. > > Emily A. >      
(back) Subject: St. Alban's International Competition From: "Jim Clouser" <CromorneCipher@hotmail.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 00:10:17 -0400   I was wondering if any of you have been to any part of the St. Alban's International organ competition this weekend and/or past week. I have a peer who is competing (Jonathan Ryan) and I wondered how he was doing.   Jim C     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.501 / Virus Database: 299 - Release Date: 7/14/2003