PipeChat Digest #3830 - Friday, July 25, 2003
 
RE: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
RE: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be>
Re: Church iniquities
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Signs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
RE: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be>
RE: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
RE: Bud, A more agressive approach
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
Fwd: Don Lockwood (Detroit) & Bill Walker (UK) RIP
  by "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: IRC
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: IRC - Network Back up
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:00:20 -0400   Signs work. I was driving a then, new 2000 Windstar still under warranty two years ago, when the rear passenger window imploded without being hit by anything. I took it back to the dealer. He said something had to have hit it and my insurance would cover the $2000 (!!) repair. I told him my insurance covered accidents, not the results of defects in design. He more or less told me to "get lost". It was the middle of winter. I cut a piece of 1/2" plywood about the size of the old window and placed it over the broken window securing it with the help of 2X4's inside the van to ensure the plywood sealed against the gasket (okay, how I did it is unimportant). Anyways, I had a new van with a crappy piece of plywood applied to the rear passenger window. On the plywood I wrote a few choice comments about what had happened and I drove the van for about 3 months in that state before I was asked by someone representing Ford of Canada to please take my van to the nearest Ford dealer where I was told they would replace the window-no charge. Signs work! Think about it. AjM      
(back) Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:17:10 +0200   Sorry, I don't see the relation with pipe organ stuff Vincent from Belgium   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Mead Sent: donderdag 24 juli 2003 13:00 To: PipeChat   Signs work. I was driving a then, new 2000 Windstar still under warranty two years = ago, when the rear passenger window imploded without being hit by anything. I took it back to the dealer. He said something had to have hit it and my insurance would cover the $2000 (!!) repair. I told him my insurance = covered accidents, not the results of defects in design. He more or less told me = to "get lost". It was the middle of winter. I cut a piece of 1/2" plywood about the = size of the old window and placed it over the broken window securing it with the help of 2X4's inside the van to ensure the plywood sealed against the = gasket (okay, how I did it is unimportant). Anyways, I had a new van with a = crappy piece of plywood applied to the rear passenger window. On the plywood I wrote a few choice comments about what had happened and I drove the van = for about 3 months in that state before I was asked by someone representing = Ford of Canada to please take my van to the nearest Ford dealer where I was = told they would replace the window-no charge. Signs work! Think about it. AjM     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Church iniquities From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:07:09 +0100 (BST)   Dear list, Holy Trinity, Sloane Street may look High Church - this is the effect of the interior decor. (It may have been so at some stage - I'm not sure.) Although I am not too keen on the phrase "Prot Palace", it is probably appropriate! John Foss www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:35:08 -0400       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Lefevre Vincent Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:17 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach   Sorry, I don't see the relation with pipe organ stuff Vincent from Belgium Dear Vincent from Belgium: My post is part of an extraordinary long thread concerning the un-employment of an organist who is also a fellow list-member. Most posts of the past two days that I've received have had no direct pipe organ content and have centered around Bud's unfortunate situation. Why are you picking on me? How was your last post related to "pipe organ stuff"? Regards, AjM     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Mead Sent: donderdag 24 juli 2003 13:00 To: PipeChat   Signs work. I was driving a then, new 2000 Windstar still under warranty two years ago, when the rear passenger window imploded without being hit by anything. I took it back to the dealer. He said something had to have hit it and my insurance would cover the $2000 (!!) repair. I told him my insurance covered accidents, not the results of defects in design. He more or less told me to "get lost". It was the middle of winter. I cut a piece of 1/2" plywood about the size of the old window and placed it over the broken window securing it with the help of 2X4's inside the van to ensure the plywood sealed against the gasket (okay, how I did it is unimportant). Anyways, I had a new van with a crappy piece of plywood applied to the rear passenger window. On the plywood I wrote a few choice comments about what had happened and I drove the van for about 3 months in that state before I was asked by someone representing Ford of Canada to please take my van to the nearest Ford dealer where I was told they would replace the window-no charge. Signs work! Think about it. AjM            
(back) Subject: Signs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 09:17:09 -0400   On 7/24/03 8:17 AM, "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be> wrote:   > Sorry, I don't see the relation with pipe organ stuff > Vincent from Belgium   Vincent, that's understandable; there wasn't widespread need to re-hash = the whole background of the matter. Trust us, though; it's quite relevant in this case. It has very much to do with some difficulties of an excellent church musician (organist/choirmaster) in relation to his employment.   Alan Freed www.stlukesnyc.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 08:54:11 -0700   Andrew,   Maybe they thought you broke the window trying to get that Contra Gamba pipe into your vehicle. (Back to pipes :-) ) So now it is pipe related...   Vern   Andrew Mead wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > Lefevre Vincent > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:17 AM > To: 'PipeChat' > Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach > > Sorry, I don't see the relation with pipe organ stuff > Vincent from Belgium > Dear Vincent from Belgium: My post is part of an extraordinary long thread > concerning the un-employment of an organist who is also a fellow > list-member. Most posts of the past two days that I've received have had no > direct pipe organ content and have centered around Bud's unfortunate > situation. > Why are you picking on me? > How was your last post related to "pipe organ stuff"? > Regards, > AjM > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Andrew Mead > Sent: donderdag 24 juli 2003 13:00 > To: PipeChat > > Signs work. > I was driving a then, new 2000 Windstar still under warranty two years ago, > when the rear passenger window imploded without being hit by anything. I > took it back to the dealer. He said something had to have hit it and my > insurance would cover the $2000 (!!) repair. I told him my insurance covered > accidents, not the results of defects in design. He more or less told me to > "get lost". > It was the middle of winter. I cut a piece of 1/2" plywood about the size of > the old window and placed it over the broken window securing it with the > help of 2X4's inside the van to ensure the plywood sealed against the gasket > (okay, how I did it is unimportant). Anyways, I had a new van with a crappy > piece of plywood applied to the rear passenger window. On the plywood I > wrote a few choice comments about what had happened and I drove the van for > about 3 months in that state before I was asked by someone representing Ford > of Canada to please take my van to the nearest Ford dealer where I was told > they would replace the window-no charge. > Signs work! Think about it. > AjM > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:30:27 +0200   Sorry for my critics. I did 'nt get the relationship Vincent   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Mead Sent: donderdag 24 juli 2003 14:35 To: PipeChat       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Lefevre Vincent Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 8:17 AM To: 'PipeChat' Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach   Sorry, I don't see the relation with pipe organ stuff Vincent from Belgium Dear Vincent from Belgium: My post is part of an extraordinary long = thread concerning the un-employment of an organist who is also a fellow list-member. Most posts of the past two days that I've received have had = no direct pipe organ content and have centered around Bud's unfortunate situation. Why are you picking on me? How was your last post related to "pipe organ stuff"? Regards, AjM     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Mead Sent: donderdag 24 juli 2003 13:00 To: PipeChat   Signs work. I was driving a then, new 2000 Windstar still under warranty two years = ago, when the rear passenger window imploded without being hit by anything. I took it back to the dealer. He said something had to have hit it and my insurance would cover the $2000 (!!) repair. I told him my insurance = covered accidents, not the results of defects in design. He more or less told me = to "get lost". It was the middle of winter. I cut a piece of 1/2" plywood about the = size of the old window and placed it over the broken window securing it with the help of 2X4's inside the van to ensure the plywood sealed against the = gasket (okay, how I did it is unimportant). Anyways, I had a new van with a = crappy piece of plywood applied to the rear passenger window. On the plywood I wrote a few choice comments about what had happened and I drove the van = for about 3 months in that state before I was asked by someone representing = Ford of Canada to please take my van to the nearest Ford dealer where I was = told they would replace the window-no charge. Signs work! Think about it. AjM           "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:26:15 -0400       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Vern Jones Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:54 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Bud, A more agressive approach   Andrew,   Maybe they thought you broke the window trying to get that Contra Gamba pipe into your vehicle. (Back to pipes :-) ) So now it is pipe related...   Vern   <Funny you should mention that. The family van was co-incidentally used that day to move a 16' Bourdon. Usually I rent a truck or a van. The pipes had nothing to do with the window breaking. Turns out there were several cases of spontaneous window implosions on the 2000 Windstar. I'm grateful I was carrying pipes and not passengers that day. I'm eternally grateful to my career with pipe organs for preventing family members from harm...just to keep it pipe related....> AjM AjM      
(back) Subject: RE: Bud, A more agressive approach From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 13:56:45 -0400   At 07:00 AM 24/07/2003 -0400, Andrew wrote: >On the plywood I >wrote a few choice comments about what had happened and I drove the van for >about 3 months in that state before I was asked by someone representing Ford >of Canada to please take my van to the nearest Ford dealer where I was told >they would replace the window-no charge. >Signs work! Think about it.   In the last few years I've seen 2 vehicles up here in Peterborough that've done something like this. I'd like to talk to the owners to see how they made out, but I was so surprised to see lettering I didn't think to write down license plates so I could ID them later.   The first one was a 1990ish GMC Tracker convertible which had its vinyl spare tire cover lettered professionally to say "Have you been taken by Bill Storey Pontiac Buick too? www.forgottheaddress.com/sorry/ ". Hubby and I both saw this vehicle a few times over a month or two stretch before the lettering apparently vanished. $10 for a cheap vinyl cover, $15 to a striping shop for letters, throw the new cover out when you're done....that's a LOT of bang for your effort and advertising buck.   Most recently was a late 1990s Ford Escort 4dr sedan whose owner spent a little more at the striping shop. This thing had the back glass filled with hot pink vinyl lettering saying "I GOT SCREWED BY HOLIDAY FORD!!" I only saw this car once, and it was never sighted by Hubby or the other service guys at his HVAC company. I'm assuming this meant it got fast results, considering how many hours we spend on the road in a day.   Bud.....didn't you say you have a big station wagon (read as: WAY more glass than the rest of us)? And that the cretin in charge is embarassed by it, just as it sits? You're sitting on a gold mine here.....an eye catching billboard, loads of space for the message, and the street is public property to park on. Right out front, so evvvvvveryone can associate it with the front door of the building. :)   Not quite sure what you'd label if your organ tech was the slimeball in question. The facade?   Have fun! Ad ;->    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Don Lockwood (Detroit) & Bill Walker (UK) RIP From: "Adrianne Schutt" <maybe@pipcom.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:17:27 -0400   A friend forwarded these 2 theatreorgans-L posts with request that I pass them on. This is the total sum of the info I have, as I'm not a theatreorgans-L subber personally. For more information, please contact John & John directly, or check the theatreorgans-L list at http://theatreorgans.com/tolist.htm     >>From: "john amy ben lauter" <jab@twmi.rr.com> >>Subject: Don Lockwood >>Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:36:23 -0400 >> >>Dear list members, >> It is my unfortunate duty to inform you of the passing of long >> time Detroit area theatre organ enthusiast Don Lockwood. Don died at >> 4:30 this morning from complications related to cancer. Don was present >> for the founding of our chapter in 1964, and for many years was >> responsible for publicity for all Motor city events. Don was active on >> the board of MCTOS, DTOS (nee DTOC) and the Grosse Pointe (community) >> theatre. Don worked for local retail chain J.L. Hudson co. in an >> administrative position for many years. He is preceded in death by his >> mother, who died late last year at the age of 103. >> >> >>respectfully submitted, John Lauter       >From: "John Abson" <John.Abson@btinternet.com> >Subject: Bill Walker (UK) >Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 07:53:17 +0100 > >List members with a knowledge of the UK organ scene may be saddened to hear >of the passing of Bill Walker at the age of 74. Bill was a driving force >behind the St.Alban's Organ Museum; much earlier, he had distinguished >himself as recording engineer for many of the Concert Recordings albums >issued of British theatre organs. > >Bill's gentlemanly demeanour will be missed by many. A memorial service will >be held at the Museum on Friday August 1st at 2.30, followed later by burial >in Bill's native Scotland. > >John.      
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 16:43:59 -0700   I have no idea what day it is (grin), but I'm on.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: IRC From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:15:31 -0500   >I have no idea what day it is (grin), but I'm on. > >Cheers, > >Bud > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: IRC - Network Back up From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:17:45 -0500   >I have no idea what day it is (grin), but I'm on. > >Cheers, > >Bud   Sorry about the last message without my reply. The Network was down from somewhere in Texas since about 6:45 PM Central Time. I called and was told that it would most likely be a couple of hours before things were fixed but I gather they got stuff running again much quicker.   Sorry about the problem but it was out of our control - the wonders of the Net! <G>   Bud and Sand are on IRC so go in and join them   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 20:42:53 -0700   Sorry, folks ... I fell asleep. Nothing wrong; I'm fine (grin).   Cheers,   Bud