PipeChat Digest #3837 - Monday, July 28, 2003
 
Re: Allen or Rodgers?
  by "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com>
Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
RE: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing
  by "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu>
"My Last Recital"
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3836 - 07/28/03
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
Re: Allen or Rodgers?
  by <FLTim@aol.com>
Re: "My Last Recital"
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Was Re: Allen or Rodgers? now english wicks
  by "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@msn.com>
Re: Allen or Rodgers?
  by "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com>
Re: Off to Edinburgh
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Allen or Rodgers?
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Allen or Rodgers? RESPONSE: LONG!!
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Allen or Rodgers?
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
WOOPS
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Allen or Rodgers? From: "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:29:55 -0500   Could not copy the message to the digest, there was no plain text part
(back) Subject: Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:36:02 -0400   On 7/28/03 1:23 PM, "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> wrote:   > Does anyone have, or know of, a web site where this can be made available, at > least temporarily?   Easiest way I can think of: Put it into Word, select all, go to Format: Font. Global change. Make all underlines become all caps. Put it back into e-mail and send away. (Or am I fooling myself?)   Alan, used to cheating    
(back) Subject: Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:51:38 -0500   Thanks!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: RE: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing From: "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:19:01 -0400   Trouble is, there are also a few phrases in ALL CAPS already.   But thanks for the suggestion. I don't know my way around M$ Word very well and wasn't aware that we could do that.   > -----Original Message----- > From: Alan Freed [SMTP:acfreed0904@earthlink.net] > Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 1:36 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing > > On 7/28/03 1:23 PM, "Emmons, Paul" <pemmons@wcupa.edu> wrote: > > > Does anyone have, or know of, a web site where this can be made > available, at > > least temporarily? > > Easiest way I can think of: Put it into Word, select all, go to Format: > Font. Global change. Make all underlines become all caps. Put it back > into e-mail and send away. (Or am I fooling myself?) > > Alan, used to cheating > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >  
(back) Subject: "My Last Recital" From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 13:46:04 -0400   To Karl Moyer "Marauder", FYI the Boston Red Sox are playing the Baltimore Orioles in Canden Yards this weekend, the same weekend which you are playing the Hook organ in Orwell VT. If I were able to go to Orwell VT, I would be wearing my red Pedro Martinez Red Sox shirt which my son and daughter-in-law gave me for Christmas! So be careful. Boston is chasing the Yankees, only 1 1/2 games behind now. They have the best offense in the country. Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3836 - 07/28/03 From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:08:10 -0400   Re Miriam Duncan's lecture: it's much too long for this list, IMHO, but I heartily agree with everything she said.   David Baker    
(back) Subject: Re: Allen or Rodgers? From: <FLTim@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:15:28 EDT   Slow down...   In a message dated 7/28/2003 1:52:31 PM, brad_taylor32@hotmail.com writes:   << Do keep in mind that if you are wanting to enlarge your pipe complement at all that Rodgers uses Pinchi pipes, an Italian pipe maker. Rodgers used Ruffatti pipes before. It's not much of a great pair placing an American classic organ with skinny and bright Italian pipes. >>   Not true. All Rodgers dealers are free to buy pipes from any builder they choose. You will find that a number of Rodgers dealers around the US represent Ruffatti. For example, the new 5-manual Ruffatti contracted for in Baltimore was sold in conjunction with the local Rodgers dealer. The wonderful new Ruffatti at Church of the Epiphany in Miami, FL (TAO Dec. '02 cover) was sold in conjunction with the local Rodgers dealer. Other Rodgers dealers have relationships with other pipe manufacturers. The availability of Pinchi pipes through Rodgers, benefits dealers who did not have any preexisting relationship with a pipe organ company, and it gives another option to those who do.   As far as the scaling and voicing of Italian pipes is concerned, I suggest you visit Spivey Hall at Clayton State University (just outside of Atlanta, home of the Calgary Organ Festival Regional Competition) or Epiphany in Miami. You are in for a pleasant surprise. They are warm, rich and versatile instruments that are an absolute joy to play.   Best regards, Timothy L. Newby, Vice President Central Music, Inc. Serving Florida since 1958 Representing Rodgers, Ruffatti and Bluthner  
(back) Subject: Re: "My Last Recital" From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:13:35 -0400   Dear Judy,     > To Karl Moyer "Marauder", > FYI the Boston Red Sox are playing the Baltimore Orioles in Canden Yards > this weekend, the same weekend which you are playing the Hook organ in Orwell VT. If I were able to go to Orwell VT, I would be wearing my red Pedro Martinez Red Sox shirt which my son and daughter-in-law gave me for Christmas! So be careful. Boston is chasing the Yankees, only 1 1/2 games behind now. They have the best offense in the country.   We Moyer fans don't think so, but you're allowed. :-) (However, a bit more seriously: what has slowed down Pedro this season?)   I can't resist: Maybe I should wear my Jamie Moyer/Mariners shirt with   MOYER & 50   on the back during my recital and let you and all those Vermonters take it all in. But, yes, I have a definite warm spot in my heart for the Red Sox, too. Indeed, I LONG to get back to Fenway again.   I'd LOVE to continue this, but I'm going to go off-line tonight in preparation for leaving for Orwell on Wednesday -- and not return on-line until we return home the night fo Sudnay 17 August.   If anyone is going to the hymn society conference in Halifax, I'd love to meet you, say hello, et al.   May the Mariners beat the Phillies in the World Series!!! :-)   Cordially,   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA    
(back) Subject: Was Re: Allen or Rodgers? now english wicks From: "Ray Ahrens" <ray_ahrens@msn.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:33:22 -0500   Could not copy the message to the digest, there was no plain text part
(back) Subject: Re: Allen or Rodgers? From: "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:36:09 -0500     "From: FLTim@aol.com Not true. All Rodgers dealers are free to buy pipes from any builder they choose."   I apologize for not mentioning this, that is true. However, I see many Rodgers combo organs done with Italian pipes, and can often be a deadly combonation. I have not heart Spivey Hall, but if that organ is warm in character, then that must have been something specifically asked for. I am at Baylor University where we have, among 4 other performance organs, a 65 rank Ruffatti. I'll tell ya one thing, warm is the last word I would ever consider using with that instrument!   If anybody else is interested in what organs we have, I'll list them here for your reading enjoyment!   IV/92 Petty-Madden, 1994 III/65 Ruffatti, 1969 III/55 Letourneau, 2003 III/39 Letourneau, 1993 (Mechanical action) II/13 Ruffatti, 1969 (Mechanical action)   We also have practice instruments by Ross King, Roy Redman, Wicks, Cotner, and Rodgers.   Tyler W. Robertson Organist, Handbell Choir Director,First United Methodist Church, Temple, TX Organist, Baylor University Concert Choir Organist, Accompanist, Baylor University Women's Chorus       From: FLTim@aol.com Reply-To: "PipeChat" To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Allen or Rodgers? Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 15:15:28 EDT Slow down... In a message dated 7/28/2003 1:52:31 PM, brad_taylor32@hotmail.com writes: << Do keep in mind that if you are wanting to enlarge your pipe complement at all that Rodgers uses Pinchi pipes, an Italian pipe maker. Rodgers used Ruffatti pipes before. It's not much of a great pair placing an American classic organ with skinny and bright Italian pipes. >> Not true. All Rodgers dealers are free to buy pipes from any builder they choose. You will find that a number of Rodgers dealers around the US represent Ruffatti. For example, the new 5-manual Ruffatti contracted for in Baltimore was sold in conjunction with the local Rodgers dealer. The wonderful new Ruffatti at Church of the Epiphany in Miami, FL (TAO Dec. '02 cover) was sold in conjunction with the local Rodgers dealer. Other Rodgers dealers have relationships with other pipe manufacturers. The availability of Pinchi pipes through Rodgers, benefits dealers who did not have any preexisting relationship with a pipe organ company, and it gives another option to those who do. As far as the scaling and voicing of Italian pipes is concerned, I suggest you visit Spivey Hall at Clayton State University (just outside of Atlanta, home of the Calgary Organ Festival Regional Competition) or Epiphany in Miami. You are in for a pleasant surprise. They are warm, rich and versatile instruments that are an absolute joy to play. Best regards, Timothy L. Newby, Vice President Central Music, Inc. Serving Florida since 1958 Representing Rodgers, Ruffatti and Bluthner "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail    
(back) Subject: Re: Off to Edinburgh From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:08:21 -0400   On 7/27/03 11:17 PM, "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> wrote:   > Work progresses on our new house. Chris and I are doing a complete > restoration of a 1740 mill and miller's cottage. It was the former > country home of Clement Heaton, the stained glass artist. His studio > will be our new great room which will house my 1947 Moller Artiste in > grand style with 11 foot ceilings and great acoustics. It also served > for several years as the summer home of Jacob Lateiner, the pianist.   You won't believe this, but I put THIS paragraph in the context of Edingurgh, Skye, and such wonderful spots. Notice the preceding line:   > my favorite Edinburgh instrument at Greyfriars if > they're doing anything. That chamade is real wakey, wakey material.   I imagined that you'd shipped the Moller across the ocean into this lovely place. (I have prosperous relative in Skye, to whom I'd be glad to refer you, but they're probably in their 90s by now, or "beyond," and in any case it would take me a few hours or more to dig up their names.)   Well, that would have been fine (to land in a mill and cottage in Scotland). But it sounds like the REAL circumstance is not too shabby either. I'm delighted for you both.   Glad to hear that you remain "among us," so to speak. Enjoy the trip.   Alan www.stlukesnyc.org      
(back) Subject: RE: Allen or Rodgers? From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:31:15 -0400   Personally, I would try to get them to expand it with pipes!   Andrew -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Patrick Kujawa Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 8:33 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Allen or Rodgers?     Dear friends,       Our church is planning on expanding our 2/30 1983 Wicks with either a Rodgers Trillium 967 (3/73) or Allen Renaissance 3/80. The committee is pretty split down the middle, and I am hoping that you all could help a = bit with this.       If you had a choice, which would you pick and why?   Has anyone had consistent service problems with either one?   Any other comments or help?       Thanks!       Patrick            
(back) Subject: Re: Allen or Rodgers? RESPONSE: LONG!! From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:19:16 EDT   Dear List,   We have a fantastic Allen Renaissance 3 manual 80 stop digital with 8 =   pipe ranks and a full 61 note Trumpet en Chamade in the rear of the = sanctuary. It is a breath taking instrument to play and listen to. Seeing our = beautiful speaking pipe facades, people think the organ is all pipe. It is a marvel. = The pipe stops are: Principal 8', Octave 4', Fifteenth 2', Harmonic Flute 8', Flute Octaviante 4', Flute Octavin 2', Mixture II. The pipes were = handcrafted by Rieger-Kloss of the Czech Republic and installed, voiced and tonally = finished by Lauck Pipe Organ Company, Otsego, Michigan. Every digital stop on the = organ was chosen to compliment and blend with the real pipes. Tom Drake and Will =   Benton of Dunne Music were exceptional as our Allen representatives. They = spent weeks tonally finishing with Jim Lauck to get the perfect blend. Our area here in Florida sponsors the London Symphony Orchestra = for a 3 week concert tour called The Florida International Festival. A myriad = of concerts and mini concerts. John Alley the principal pianist and organist played a concert with the 10 piece LSO Brass Consort. He accompanied the = Handel Four Processionals for Trumpet and Organ. He was amazed at the sound and = the absolute blending of the pipe and digital ranks.The church was packed and = people were commenting on the fabulous sound of the "pipe organ." Two years ago when we were replacing our 13 yo 3 manual Ahlborn Custom we looked into pipe and as well as digital companies. The price for = a pipe organ for our large 1,350 seat sanctuary was staggering! We then looked = for companies which built pipe digital combination. We played and listened to = Rodgers and Wicks. All sounded great. There are many wonderful pipe digital combination installed into churches small and large alike. One of the = members of the organ committee suggested trying Allen. I said: "I would never have an = Allen in my church." I finally gave in and went to listen to the Renaissance technology. I was floored by the sound of the Allen. The Renaissance = technology allows you to choose from thousands of pipe samples. Well, I have eaten those words over and over since we installed our =   Allen/Lauck Pipe/Digital organ. Rodgers and Wicks both make a great instruments, but Allen gives you the possibility of changing voices from = Skinner to Caville Coll to Casavant, etc!!   Come and visit us in Port Orange, Florida and play and listen to this exceptional instrument.   Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: Miriam Duncan's lecture on hymn playing From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:55:56 -0500   At 1:23 PM -0400 7/28/03, Emmons, Paul wrote: > >Since this forum does not permit binaries, I have needed to reduce it to >text. However, it arrived in my mailbox as a Microsoft Word document, and >it would be best to have it in that format, because some words are >underlined, giving a sense of her emphasis as she was speaking. Does anyone >have, or know of, a web site where this can be made available, at least >temporarily?   Paul   If you want to send it to me privately I can turn it into an Adobe PDF document and place it on the PipeChat Web Site. - Send it to <david@blckiris.com>   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Allen or Rodgers? From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 18:24:52 -0400     On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 14:36:09 -0500 "Tyler Robertson" <brad_taylor32@hotmail.com> writes:   > However, I see many Rodgers combo organs done with Italian pipes, > and can often be a deadly combonation.   > In a message dated 7/28/2003 1:52:31 PM, brad_taylor32@hotmail.com > writes: > << Do keep in mind that if you are wanting to enlarge your pipe > complement at all that Rodgers uses Pinchi pipes, an Italian pipe maker. Rodgers > used Ruffatti pipes before. It's not much of a great pair placing an > American classic organ with skinny and bright Italian pipes.     Dear List:   Pinchi will make absolutely any kind of pipes you want: any scale, any metal thickness, any languid bevel or thickness, any slot, any upper lip etc. etc. etc.   The resulting sound will be dictated only by what you specify, and how you voice.   Imagine an Italian builder taking heat for using American pipes because they all sound the same !!!   Jim McFarland       "Common sense isn't." JRMcF.  
(back) Subject: WOOPS From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 17:29:24 -0500   At 4:55 PM -0500 7/28/03, Administrator wrote: >> > >Paul > >If you want to send it to me privately I can turn it into an Adobe >PDF document and place it on the PipeChat Web Site. - Send it to ><david@blckiris.com>   First of all that should have been a private response and secondly, as was just pointed out to me I misspelled my address <G> The correct one is <david@blackiris.com> -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org