PipeChat Digest #3720 - Tuesday, June 3, 2003
 
Erik Suter at OHS
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Organ Recording
  by "Dennis Faber" <reedorgan@msn.com>
Paul L. Thomas
  by "Jeremy Wance" <jwance@ou.edu>
Re: fiddling around
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Organ Recording
  by "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
Re: A Mighty Wind
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: A Mighty Wind
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
What a list!
  by "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
Re: A Mighty Wind
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
 

(back) Subject: Erik Suter at OHS From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:16:25 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3137436985_6946877_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   Eric Suter will play the OHAS pre-convention recital at St. Paul the = Apostl=3D e R. C. Ch., Annville PA, a hop, skip and jump from Lebnaon Valley College, where the convention will get a meal later on. The organ is a rarity, an = E=3D .. M. Lane buit in 1902 for the United Cognregational Church in Lawrence MA = bu=3D t re-instlaled at Annville with alterations and additions by Ray Brunner, author of the standard book on the PA German builders.   Eric's program:=3D20   Dupre: Placare Christe Servulis   Brahms: Pre & Fug in g Es ist ein Ros' entsprungen Schm=3DFCcke dich, o liebe Seele (and the convention = will then sing this hymn.)   Mendelssohn Sonata 4 in B-Flat   Wm. Bolcom: Just as I Am" and "What a Friend We Have In Jesus" from Gospel Preludes, i Bk. I   Durufl=3DE9: Pr=3DE9lude sur l'Introit de l'=3DC9piphanie   Widor Symphony 6, Adagio and Finale   Eric play last Fall in nearby Lebanon PA, went to Annville in a free moment, and handpicked his repertoire for the organ. So we look forward to good playing and a good use of the instrument.   Karl E. Moyer lancaster PA   --MS_Mac_OE_3137436985_6946877_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Erik Suter at OHS</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> Eric Suter will play the OHAS pre-convention recital at St. Paul the = Apostl=3D e R. C. Ch., Annville PA, a hop, skip and jump from Lebnaon Valley = College, =3D where the convention will get a meal later on. &nbsp;The organ is a = rarity, =3D an E. M. Lane buit in 1902 for the United Cognregational Church in = Lawrence =3D MA but re-instlaled at Annville with alterations and additions by Ray = Brunne=3D r, author of the standard book on the PA German builders. <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eric's program: &nbsp;<BR> <BR> Dupre: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Placare Christe Servulis<BR> <BR> Brahms: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pre &amp; Fug in g<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= =3D bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Es ist ein Ros' entsprungen<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n= =3D bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Schm=3DFCcke dich, o liebe Seele = &nbsp;(and th=3D e convention will then sing this hymn.)<BR> <BR> Mendelssohn &nbsp;Sonata 4 in B-Flat<BR> <BR> Wm. Bolcom: &nbsp;&nbsp;Just as I Am&quot; and &quot;What a Friend We Have = =3D In Jesus&quot; &nbsp;from <I>Gospel Preludes, i &nbsp;Bk. I<BR> </I><BR> Durufl=3DE9: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Pr=3DE9lude sur l'Introit de = l'=3DC9piphanie<BR> <BR> Widor &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Symphony 6, &nbsp;Adagio and = Fina=3D le<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Eric play last Fall in nearby Lebanon PA, went to = Annvil=3D le in a free moment, &nbsp;and handpicked his repertoire for the organ. = &nbs=3D p;&nbsp;So we look forward to good playing and a good use of the = instrument.=3D <BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Karl E. Moyer<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;lancaster PA </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3137436985_6946877_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Recording From: "Dennis Faber" <reedorgan@msn.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:01:03 -0400   Hi,   I agree with recording is not the best way.   I am just wondering where you guys are from. Because I am an sub organist that is looking for jobs on a Sunday Morning or any other day of the week for funerals, Weddings, or anything else. I my area the churchs that had been looking for an organist have found them and that puts me out of work. I live in Fleetwood, Pa. I will travel a distant to play.   Dennis     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:09 PM Subject: Re: Organ Recording     > Paul and others who may be interested, > > Leaving aside for the moment the copyright restrictions on making organ > recordings of hymns, I am about to suggest that it isn't worth doing. > > My church decided to try this years ago, but we very soon found out that = a > recorded accompaniment simply does not work, - the congregation did not > enjoy the recorded organ accompaniment, and were completely unable to = keep > up with it. > > We found that even though the idea sounds well on paper, it proved to us > that there is no substitute for a live organist, - in the end, we used = the > piano for accompaniment, for we had a few accomplished pianists in our > congregation who were quite capable of accompanying the hymns for us. > > So, the short answer is, don't waste your time, - if you cannot find an > organist, find a piano and someone to play for you. > > Bob Conway > > At 01:23 PM 6/2/03 -0500, Paul Soulek wrote: > > >There are many churches in my area that can't seem to find an organist > >on a given Sunday and have asked if I might record some hymns for them > >to use. I plan on doing that this summer (digitally recording a new-ish > >Rodgers), but am wondering about a few things regarding copyright. > > > >How long does the copyright protection last on hymns? Our denomination > >uses two hymnals; one was published in 1941 and the other in 1982. I > >have heard that all hymns in the 1941 hymnal are public domain; does > >this mean that I can use these "at will", or is there some type of > >permission that I need to obtain. Also, I would love to hear from > >someone regarding the permission that I need in order to record some of > >the newer hymns (Lift High the Cross, etc.). > > > >These recordings would be used for worship purposes only. I know that > >each hymnal uses different harmonizations of the melody, so I plan to > >use some of my own in addition to the ones found in the hymnal. This is > >something that I hope will help me finance my college expenses a bit > >(attending Concordia-Seward, NE next fall, to become a Director of > >Parish Music), as well as benefit the Church as a whole. > > > >Any other comments regarding this subject would be most welcome! > > > >Thanks! > >Paul > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Paul L. Thomas From: "Jeremy Wance" <jwance@ou.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:03:13 -0500   Does anyone know where/how I might acquire a copy of the CD "Shout the = Glad Tidings," which features the sacred music of Paul L. Thomas (one of the finest liturgical organists I have ever heard) at St. Mike and All Angels, Dallas?   Thanks....im Voraus... Jeremy   jwance@ou.edu ICQ# 100983880 AIM: jeremywance MSN: eicheok@hotmail.com Zitat des Tages: "Gesang und Liebe im sch=C3=B6nen Verein, sie erhalten dem Leben den Jugendschein." [Friedrich Schiller]            
(back) Subject: Re: fiddling around From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 23:11:01 -0500   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3137440261_2891769_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   A;am Freed wrote:   P.S.: =3DB3real job=3DB2 reminds me of a question I=3DB9ve been going to = ask you about Italian; do you deal with that too? (Don=3DB9t recall the question now, = but it=3DB9ll come back=3D8BOh, yes! How do you pronounce =3DB3Barilla=3DB2? = As in Spanish, o=3D r as in English?)       Nope, it's the department that's bipartite, not me. I do read a little Italian, though. Your question stumps me: Who, or what, is "Barilla"? Sorry to be so ignorant!     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu       --MS_Mac_OE_3137440261_2891769_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: fiddling around</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <BLOCKQUOTE><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">A;am Freed = wrote:<BR> <BR> P.S.: &nbsp;=3DB3real job=3DB2 reminds me of a question I=3DB9ve been = going to ask you =3D about Italian; do you deal with that too? &nbsp;(Don=3DB9t recall the = question n=3D ow, but it=3DB9ll come back=3D8BOh, yes! &nbsp;How do you pronounce = =3DB3Barilla=3DB2? &nbsp=3D ;As in Spanish, or as in English?)<BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> </FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Nope, it's the department that's bipartite, not me. &nbsp;I do read a = littl=3D e Italian, though. &nbsp;Your question stumps me: &nbsp;Who, or what, is = &qu=3D ot;Barilla&quot;? &nbsp;Sorry to be so ignorant! &nbsp;<BR> <BR> <BR> Randy Runyon<BR> Music Director<BR> Zion Lutheran Church<BR> Hamilton, Ohio<BR> runyonr@muohio.edu<BR> <BR> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3137440261_2891769_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Recording From: "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 20:40:48 -0700 (PDT)   Dennis ... May your tribe increase!   You are needed ... Here in California, land of the karaoke substitutes, classified ads are placed and notes are posted in vain at university music bulletin boards begging for organists and pianists ... and sound technicians run the organ through the PA system as if it were a guitar.   Here in our town the great organists are few ... Jonathan Orwig, Malcolm Bensen, Herb Iverson and a few others. Many parishoners at St Paul's United Methodist actually remain seated throughout the entirety of the postlude, just to savor the sound, listening as a concert.   However, I have heard them play MIDI organ through that impressive instrument when organist Vllanueva was out of town.       --- "Dennis Faber" <reedorgan@msn.com> wrote:   I agree with recording is not the best way.   I am just wondering where you guys are from. Because I am an sub organist looking for jobs ...         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: A Mighty Wind From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 23:48:59 EDT   In a message dated 6/2/03 5:50:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time, runyonr@muohio.edu writes:   << This is a wonderful idea. I've had the music for years but never = played it. The theme and variations do not look difficult. How many minutes long is the prelude? That would take longer to learn, but I'm wondering if it is too long ever to use in a church service and could only be played in recital. >>   depends on how fast you want to take it. there's no law that says you = have to play it as fast as maurice indicated. luckily, his music is very = beautiful as slow practice tempos too.  
(back) Subject: Re: A Mighty Wind From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:36:32 -0700   oh my.... let me make a list... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: A Mighty Wind     > Pentecost Sunday will soon be upon us. Any good ideas on appropriate > preludes, offertories, and postludes? Besides, of course, the usual = Bach > Come, Holy Ghost chorale-preludes.... > > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03  
(back) Subject: What a list! From: "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 21:42:15 -0700 (PDT)   This resource list is tremendous! Thank you!   Imagine, I can deal with very real dialog about very important issues of music impacting worship from people I really respect.   Having three of us named Paul on this most recent thread becomes confusing at times, but I really appreciate all the input as we deal with ministry to a soundbyte generation without losing the integrity of the music artform.   Thanks to all who have contributed in these matters. I value the input of my fellow-consitituents.   I'm interested in pursuing the Sound Canvas POP that was suggested, since I have Sound Canvas as part of my MIDI workstation. Imagine! Someone on this list pointed me to another resource I may never have known. I'm interested in more from that contributer, if possible to contact me off-line (I lost your eddress along the way).     I've found another excellent solution for those times the organist is ill and no violinist is available.   I turn up my sound and click horse at http://svt.se/hogafflahage/hogafflaHage_site/Kor/hestekor.swf         __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: A Mighty Wind From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 22:08:35 -0700   sorry... hit "return" too soon   Ahrens: Hymnus: Veni Creator Schroeder: (2 - one from his Chorale Preludes for the church year, and a TOWERING partita which one could use excerpts from) Demessieux: Toccata on Veni Creator Sowerby: Prelude on Veni Creator Bingham: Prelude on "Gracious Spirit, Dwell with me" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: A Mighty Wind     > Pentecost Sunday will soon be upon us. Any good ideas on appropriate > preludes, offertories, and postludes? Besides, of course, the usual = Bach > Come, Holy Ghost chorale-preludes.... > > > Randy Runyon > Music Director > Zion Lutheran Church > Hamilton, Ohio > runyonr@muohio.edu > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03