PipeChat Digest #3747 - Thursday, June 12, 2003 RE: Andres Gunther by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <email@example.com> Re: taco bell canon by "Dr. Amy Fleming" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: taco bell canon by "David Carter" <email@example.com> Re: wedding fee question by "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: Preparing for Faure Requiem - reply by <RMaryman@aol.com> Re: Preparing for Faure Requiem by <Keys4bach@aol.com> Re: Lead me to the sun by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Status of Brooklyn organ by "David Evangelides" <email@example.com> Re: taco bell canon by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> our new THURSDAY night chat on IRC by <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: taco bell canon by <Gfc234@aol.com> RE: wedding fee question by "andrew meagher" <email@example.com> message by "Dr. Amy Fleming" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
(back) Subject: RE: Andres Gunther From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 15:21:57 -0400 Andres Gunther firstname.lastname@example.org Dear pipechatters! Just recovering from a nasty tropical virus that caught me unexpected on tuesday evening I receive your encouraging remarks about my postings- and feel *much better* :) THANK YOU TOO since I learned a lot from this list threads. In this very moment it's the only way for me to keep up to date what's going on in the organ world. Regarding Colin Mitchell's offer, this would be GREAT, and deserves a big, big "Thanks a lot". About shipping details: The only reliable courier service we have here is FedEx. NEVER attempt to send me anything thru normal postal service!- My articles about our C-C organs are published in the AIO's "Journal of American Organbuilding" since last September, and no courtesy exemplar has arrived here to this very day... Cheers, and "un gran abrazo" [a big hug] to you all! Andres. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.
(back) Subject: Re: taco bell canon From: "Dr. Amy Fleming" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 14:56:13 -0500 Thanks Richard of your information. BTW, I thought ground beef was what you called cows with no legs. Amy-knowing more about veterinary medicine that organ music-Fleming
(back) Subject: Re: taco bell canon From: "David Carter" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:10:14 -0700 (PDT) I'm surprised PDQ Bach didn't write a Taco Bell Cannon, or Taco Bell AK47, = or Taco Bell Smith & Wesson, with (to keep this ever so marginally on topic) organ continuo, = perhaps a Hammond with quadruple leslies. David Carter Asking to share anybody's cover --- Del Case <email@example.com> wrote: > ContraReed@aol.com wrote: > > > > > It was written for 3 violins and basso continuo. The basso continuo = line are the first 8 > notes you hear, and then repeats about 17 gazillion times (especially if = you're playing bass or > bassoon or something low like that). This type of repeating bass line = is referred to as a > ground. There is really only one melody on top of this which is = presented at interval of 2 > measures, making it a canon (and since it is at the same pitch, is can = also be called a round). > Hence, this is the first musical example of a "ground round". > > > > Richard (running for cover) > > Or to put it another way - What do you get when you cross breed a > passacaglia and a canon? > > Ground round. > > Also running for cover > Del W. Case > Pacific Union College > P.S. I did actually see in a church bulletin the composer of the > infamous canon listed as "Tachelbel." Gets awfully close to Taco Bell. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com
(back) Subject: Re: wedding fee question From: "Alan Freed" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:54:30 -0400 On 6/12/03 2:59 PM, "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> wrote: > I have a problem similar to Margo's. > > We do allow non-members to use the church for weddings. Some aren't = even of > the same denomination. Usually local people. Glad to see them get = married > at all nowadays, and especially glad to see them get married in a = church. Diane, I think your very wording gives away the store. And the church. = And some of your income. You "allow non-members to **USE** the church for weddings." Trust me, they'll DO just that (and you know that too). Different churches do things in different ways, and it's sure not for me = to tell YOUR church how to do it. But if I were asked, I'd suggest that the stance of the church would be, "We welcome non-members to request our ministry at any time, including weddings and funerals." Your little = leaflet about that availability will say: "Our pastor conducts the service. Our musician(s) provide music. All services are free ("no charge") for = members; for non-members, the use of the church is $250 (including wedding rehearsal); the services of the pastor is another $250. Our Musician is paid $250. And the janitor. . . . All fees are paid to the church (which reimburses the pastor, musician(s), and janitor), ten days before the proposed wedding." Etc., etc. Change the amounts according to local custom. (Those are the numbers for our church, but this is Manhattan.) > There's one coming up in the next week or two. They asked the lady = from > a church in the next village to play organ. This happens a lot. She = has > been the music teacher in the school. An organist is invited to touch your organ by YOU (and/or perhaps the pastor). Not by anybody else--ESPECIALLY non-members! (I could add, especially considering what you and hubby are putting into this = instrument, but even APART from that the position stands.) > > My husband and I just spent all day yesterday working with organ = service > to get that pipe organ tuned and some things working again, our one day = off > a week. And we are involved in planning a major renovation of that > instrument. > I don't have a contract. And I haven't asked for any more money, = hoping > any funds would go to the organ project. > But most of the time, somebody else comes in and plays for a > wedding---and of course gets the money. There are only a few in a year, = so > it's not a big deal, but it bugs me. BECAUSE it is only a few a year, it IS a big deal. Quit backing down! > And then there are the church funerals. There's one particular old > family undertaker business that most people go to, especially for a = church > funeral, and he has a woman who plays organ for him. In HIS establishment, of COURSE! That's HIS place of business. But if = the funeral is in the church, then the job is YOURS. And he has no hand in = that decision whatsoany! Either you're the organist in that congregation or = you are NOT. Period! > What really bothers me is that she was a leader of the group that left > this church and started another one, caused a terrible rift and a lot of > hurt feelings in town 30 yrs. ago. But she's here every time somebody = dies, > happily playing this organ that I worked so hard to get patched together > again from neglect after she left. That's a social awkwardness, but don't rely on that for the fact that you are right. Draft that contract, and discuss it with the pastor. When you and he/she agree, go to the local Board. Get it signed, and stick with = it. > The Worship and Music committee is meeting next week. If I'm going to > have the responsibility of a many thousand dollar renovation project, = it's > time for a change in policy. Typing a draft of that contract? > Not that I'm all that big on funerals, although I sure could use the > money. It's the principle of the thing. No, it's the money. Don't be ashamed of that. Principle is on your side, so use it. But get your money. > Wish I could talk as well as I can play. I hate committee meetings. > Too many people on a power trip---argue, argue, argue. > Guess that's what I'm doing too? No. Quit putting yourself down! Stand up not only for yourself, but for your profession! > Alan
(back) Subject: Re: Preparing for Faure Requiem - reply From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:16:59 EDT --part1_75.131329ba.2c1a47cb_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I just played the Faure' Requiem in May of this year (2 performances in 2 VERY different venues on 2 EXTREEEEEEMLY different organs. contact me = off-list if you want, and I will try to answer your ????. Basically i would agree with your advisor that said if you can just hear yourself "between" the choir than you are probably about right. You may want to have anoather organist sit in the audience for the dress rehersal and the two of you work out a set of hand signals so that he/she = can give you their opinion of the balance. the organ score from Hinshaw is different is some aspects from the G = Schirmer edition, from which I played. the rutter harp part is more accurate in the = Hinshaw ed, but otherwise, both editions mostly mirror the string parts. Rick in VA --part1_75.131329ba.2c1a47cb_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>I just played the = Faure'=3D20=3D Requiem in May of this year (2 performances in 2 VERY different venues on = 2=3D20=3D EXTREEEEEEMLY different organs. contact me off-list if you want, and = I=3D will try to answer your ????. <BR> <BR>Basically i would agree with your advisor that said if you can just = hear=3D yourself "between" the choir than you are probably about right.=3D20 <BR> <BR>You may want to have anoather organist sit in the audience for the = dress=3D rehersal and the two of you work out a set of hand signals so that he/she = c=3D an give you their opinion of the balance. <BR> <BR>the organ score from Hinshaw is different is some aspects from the G = Sch=3D irmer edition, from which I played. the rutter harp part is more accurate = in=3D the Hinshaw ed, but otherwise, both editions mostly mirror the string = parts=3D .. <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML> --part1_75.131329ba.2c1a47cb_boundary--
(back) Subject: Re: Preparing for Faure Requiem From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:27:26 EDT --part1_5f.3ae72242.2c1a4a3e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will bite the big one and suggest that if the organ HAS = MIDI--------useit. Listen to a good orchestral recording and then duplicate as needed. Meaning, if you have to play the harp part on the organ, use the harp = sound. If you are blessed like I was growing up with a wonderful harp on a 1930's = AEolian-problem solved. dale florida --part1_5f.3ae72242.2c1a4a3e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">I will bite the big one and suggest that if the = orga=3D n HAS MIDI--------useit.<BR> <BR> Listen to a good orchestral recording and then duplicate as needed. <BR> Meaning, if you have to play the harp part on the organ, use the harp = sound.=3D If you are blessed like I was growing up with a wonderful harp on a = 1=3D 930's AEolian-problem solved.<BR> <BR> dale <BR> florida</FONT></HTML> --part1_5f.3ae72242.2c1a4a3e_boundary--
(back) Subject: Re: Lead me to the sun From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 17:31:03 -0400 At 01:07 PM 6/12/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Hello, > >I have just been researching forthcoming concerts in >the Netherlands for my annual "Dutch Dash" in August. > >Never before have I seen so FEW "foreign" organists on >the concert listings.....they all seem to be Dutch >performers in 2003. > >There's nothing wrong with that of course, but in >previous years, they have always featured a fair >number of international recitalists, with well known >names from France, England, Germany, Austria and >America. > >The other thing which leapt from the page was the fact >that Jos v.d.Koy actually managed to play quite a lot >of Messaien in a concert at St.Bavvo, Haarlem, last >year. That must have been quite an ordeal for him and >his "little helpers". > >I hope to expand the concert-going a little this time, >hearing some instruments I have never heard before, >and interesting possibilities include Utrecht, Leiden >and Bolsward. > > >Colin Mitchell UK Colin, The Dutch haven't gone insular, but there is a saying, "if you ain't = Dutch, you ain't much". I assume that applies to the organ world as well. The places you mention, I think I know the instruments you would like to hear. They are classically old Dutch sounding - early 19th century organs = if I am not mistaken. Won't be quite the same as St. Bavo, I'm sure. Arie V.
(back) Subject: Status of Brooklyn organ From: "David Evangelides" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:35:35 -0500 Does any one have any knowledge of the status, and specs of the organ at Brooklyn Tech High School? I remember the organ being played a few times, and was sure it was a pipe. Since graduation in '68 and moving to Colorado, I've lost touch with the school. Wondering in the Rockies. David E David Evangelides Colorado Springs, Colorado
(back) Subject: Re: taco bell canon From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 10:11:06 +1200 >I'm surprised PDQ Bach didn't write a Taco Bell Cannon, or Taco Bell = AK47, or Taco Bell Smith & >Wesson, with (to keep this ever so marginally on topic) organ continuo, perhaps a Hammond with >quadruple leslies. Now there's a great composer we don't hear much of these days - PDQBach. I recently bought the CD of his preludes and fugues - wonderful stuff. What = a pity PDQ and Gerard Hoffnung never collaborated, with the oversight of = Spike Jones. Ross
(back) Subject: our new THURSDAY night chat on IRC From: <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 16:01:27 -0700 IS TONIGHT AT 9 P.M., EASTERN (US) DAYLIGHT TIME. I'm sending this early because the LAST reminder I posted didn't appear until chat was OVER (chuckle). Directions how to get there on the pipechat homepage. Cheers, Bud
(back) Subject: Re: taco bell canon From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:20:45 EDT --part1_7b.131f511b.2c1a72dd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit PDQ conducted the Rockford Symphony not too long ago. Gregory --part1_7b.131f511b.2c1a72dd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>PDQ conducted the = Rockfor=3D d Symphony not too long ago. <BR> <BR>Gregory</FONT></HTML> --part1_7b.131f511b.2c1a72dd_boundary--
(back) Subject: RE: wedding fee question From: "andrew meagher" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 20:37:17 -0400 Travis, In that case you should have charged the bench fee. You set aside time = for it so they should have to pay your fee to, even though you didn't play it. Andrew Meagher -----Original Message----- From: firstname.lastname@example.org [mailto:email@example.com]On Behalf Of Travis L. Evans Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 7:29 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: wedding fee question The 'other' woman did. I found out it was a money issue, they supposedly weren't able to pay my fee. Had they been up front with it I might have worked with them on it. But after them getting someone else I wouldn't have played for it even for my full fee. Travis --- BlueeyedBear@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/11/2003 4:55:27 PM Eastern > Standard Time, firstname.lastname@example.org writes: > > > I was asked by the > > family to play, set aside the weekend, then found > out > > a week before the wedding from the 'other' > > organist/pianist, that I wasn't playing. She > called > > me to ask me if I cared if she practiced. Well > let me > > tell you 'it' hit the fan. > > so travis... um, who finally did play for the > wedding?? you can't leave us hanging like this... > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:email@example.com > Administration: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:email@example.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org Administration: mailto:email@example.com Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:firstname.lastname@example.org
(back) Subject: message From: "Dr. Amy Fleming" <email@example.com> Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 19:50:37 -0500 I got an Email today " Organ System Review Course" For a moment I was unsure what list I was on. :) Just had to stop and = laugh! Amy- the vet