PipeChat Digest #3756 - Monday, June 16, 2003
 
Re: Scandinavian music recordings
  by "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
Henry Willis II
  by "Jennifer Shaddix Minter" <scminter@bellsouth.net>
Re: Henry Willis II
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Technical question
  by "Josiah Armes" <SoliDeoGloria87@earthlink.net>
Re: Technical question
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Technical question
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: Technical question
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
Re: Technical question
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Plain Text
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
[Pipechat] [Was Re: Technical question]
  by "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com>
Re: Technical question
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
Re: Technical question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Technical question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Skinner Opus 328 News
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Trinity Sunday (x-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters (x-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
settings of same text
  by <MFoxy9795@aol.com>
The Glory of the Human Voice
  by "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com>
Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters(x-posted)
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
upcoming trip
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters(x-posted)
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: The Glory of the Human Voice
  by "dreddnott" <dreddnott@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Scandinavian music recordings From: "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:06:42 +0200   Hi Josiah, perhaps you should give http://www.toccata.nu a try. This swedish site lists a lot of Scandinavian labels like Daphne (otto Olsons organ works), Proprius, Nosag, BIS, Danacord, Simax, etc. For some recordings from Poland and the Baltics have a look at Alexander Koschel's shop at http://www.fagott-shop.de/index.html?lang=3Den-gb or at http://www.dux.pl from Poland.   Yours sincerely   Arno        
(back) Subject: Henry Willis II From: "Jennifer Shaddix Minter" <scminter@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 10:59:42 -0400     I have subscribed to this list in the hopes that someone might be able to give me some research direction. I am looking for books or any other information sources that deal with biographical information on organ builder Henry Willis II. Through recent family research, I found out that my gr-gr-grandmother's sister Isabella Cassidy married Henry Willis II in 1894 after his first wife died. I am just beginning my research into the family, so any information would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks, Jennifer Minter    
(back) Subject: Re: Henry Willis II From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 11:09:14 EDT   You might write to Henry Willis 4 (he doesn't use a Roman numeral), who I believe is still among us, although not actively involved with the = company.   The Willis firm still exists under the direction of David Wyld, and their = web site can give you contact information regarding archival material.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Technical question From: "Josiah Armes" <SoliDeoGloria87@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:42:41 -0400   Does anyone know how I can change my settings so that the listname appears =   in the subject line, as in [pipechat] Technical question.?   SDG, Josiah    
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 12:48:29 -0500   >Does anyone know how I can change my settings so that the listname >appears in the subject line, as in [pipechat] Technical question.? > >SDG, >Josiah   Josiah   There is nothing you can change to have [PipeChat} appear at the beginning of the Subject lines. That is a server setting that only I can change. And since we have existed for many years without that preface in the subject line i am not about to make a change now.   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 13:59:08 -0400     --------------CD223ADB9E1C26FC5D3DDC5F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Josiah, I'm not sure, but I think that is a function of the server software = and not controllable within your email client. I know that the Theatreorgan-L = chat list posts I receive are prefixed in the subject line with = [Theatreorgans-L] as is the residence organ list Diyapason which is prefixed as [Residence Organs]. If you are trying to set up a message filter to funnel your Pipechat = posts into their own folder, I suggest you base the filter on the "too or cc" function containing the word Pipechat. That is how I have my Netscape = email client is set up and it works great. Cheers Mike   Josiah Armes wrote:   > Does anyone know how I can change my settings so that the listname = appears > in the subject line, as in [pipechat] Technical question.? > > SDG, > Josiah > >   --------------CD223ADB9E1C26FC5D3DDC5F Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> Hi Josiah, <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I'm not sure, but I think that is a function of the server software and not controllable within your email client. I know that the Theatreorgan-L chat list posts I receive are prefixed in the = subject line with [Theatreorgans-L] as is the residence organ list Diyapason which is prefixed as [Residence Organs]. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; If you are trying to set up a message filter to funnel your Pipechat posts into their own folder, I suggest you base the filter on the "too or cc" function containing the word Pipechat. That is how I have my Netscape email client is set up and it works great. <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Cheers <br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike <p>Josiah Armes wrote: <blockquote TYPE=3DCITE>Does anyone know how I can change my settings so that the listname appears <br>in the subject line, as in [pipechat] Technical question.? <p>SDG, <br>Josiah <br>&nbsp; <br><a href=3D"mailto:requests@pipechat.org"></a>&nbsp;</blockquote> </html>   --------------CD223ADB9E1C26FC5D3DDC5F--    
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:10:34 EDT     --part1_10e.2321f7b7.2c1e109a_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Mike: What is the set up for me to enjoy Theatre Organ Chat? Best, Craig in Pa.   --part1_10e.2321f7b7.2c1e109a_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial Cyr" LANG=3D3D"0"><B>Mike:<BR> What is the set up for me to enjoy Theatre Organ Chat?<BR> Best,<BR> Craig&nbsp; in Pa.</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_10e.2321f7b7.2c1e109a_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:21:23 -0400       Swedish5702@aol.com wrote:   > Mike: > What is the set up for me to enjoy Theatre Organ > Chat? > Best, > Craig in Pa.   Hi Craig, Copy the following URL into your browser and it will give you all the help you need to get there: http://theatreorgans.com/tolist.htm   I also offer a friendly reminder to please send your messages in plain text as should all list members. You just can't believe what all the HTML coding looks like in the digest. Cheers Mike    
(back) Subject: Plain Text From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:36:42 -0400   Before you all blast me for sending a post containing HTML, permit me to report I am still learning about this as well. It seems that responding to messages that contain HTML will over ride your own plain text settings when sending such messages. I guess the only way to avoid it is to compose a new message even if you are responding to an established thread. Mea Culpa and sorry for it. Mike    
(back) Subject: [Pipechat] [Was Re: Technical question] From: "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 14:17:34 -0500       Josiah Armes wrote:   > Does anyone know how I can change my settings so that the listname = appears > in the subject line, as in [pipechat] Technical question.?   Well, you can type it in the subject line yourself as I have done here.   ns    
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 15:17:43 EDT     --part1_d0.3aed8768.2c1e2057_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Mike:   Thank You!   Best,   Craig   --part1_d0.3aed8768.2c1e2057_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial Cyr" LANG=3D3D"0"><B>Mike:<BR> <BR> Thank You!<BR> <BR> Best,<BR> <BR> Craig</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_d0.3aed8768.2c1e2057_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:33:34 -0400   On 6/15/03 1:48 PM, "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> wrote:   > There is nothing you can change to have [PipeChat} appear at the > beginning of the Subject lines. That is a server setting that only I > can change. And since we have existed for many years without that > preface in the subject line i am not about to make a change now. > > David   David: On the other hand, maybe he's just looking for an "auto-sort" technique. He can do that, can't he, if he has the appropriate e-mail service? (Mine does it; I use Microsoft entourage and earthlink--but all that is just words to me; I comprehend NOTHING.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Technical question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:35:27 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3138539727_6431262 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 6/15/03 1:59 PM, "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> wrote:   > If you are trying to set up a message filter to funnel your Pipechat = post=3D s > into their own folder, I suggest you base the filter on the "too or cc" > function containing the word Pipechat. That is how I have my Netscape = ema=3D il > client is set up and it works great.   THAT=3DB9s what I was trying to say. (I think.)   Alan   --B_3138539727_6431262 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: Technical question</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 6/15/03 1:59 PM, &quot;Mike = Gettelman&quot;=3D &lt;mike3247@earthlink.net&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">If you are trying to = set up=3D a message filter to funnel your Pipechat posts into their own folder, I = sug=3D gest you base the filter on the &quot;too or cc&quot; function containing = th=3D e word Pipechat. That is how I have my Netscape email client is set up and = i=3D t works great. <BR> </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> THAT&#8217;s what I was trying to say. &nbsp;(I think.)<BR> <BR> Alan</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3138539727_6431262--    
(back) Subject: Skinner Opus 328 News From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:48:11 -0400   Perhaps you read my post on Friday concerning Cleveland Public Hall and the huge E. M. Skinner that lives there. The organ became the subject of some discussion on IRC later that night, and I was lucky enough to get a strong lead on some information about the instrument from good friend and fellow list member David McPeak, whom most of us know as "Mack". He was able to find the website of George Krejci, who is listed as the organ's Curator. I composed a message to George yesterday asking for any information he might care to offer about the instrument. At the same time I expressed my sincere desire to help in any way I could to assist him with any work he may be doing, and to do all I could to promote and publicize the plight of the instrument to try and assure its preservation. I am happy to say I just now received his response, and am very encouraged by it. He confirms what has been rumored about the stolen echo division pipes and the replacement Klann console made necessary by water damage to the original. He also says that despite some of the organ being unplayable, and far greater portion is still useable, and is still performed upon several times a year. George also confirms that everything else remains as original save for a "pressure multiplier" that was problematic from the get go, and was replaced with a separate high pressure blower. From the bits and pieces of info I had learned about this instrument over the past several years, it seems that it was not entirely tonally successful for the space despite the large number of ranks and the scaling of the pipes. The organ actually speaks into 2 separate auditoriums from a shared stage area, and all the pipes other than the echo speak from the side West wall of that stage. George confirms that this a real problem, and is currently being handled by suspending a microphone array in front of the chamber, and sending it through the sound system. Now for the sad part. The City of Cleveland refuses to spend a dime to restore or improve the organ in any way. The only time George gets paid is to "baby-sit" the instrument whenever the blowers are running. All other work he does is strictly on a volunteer basis. He says there is much to do, but his time must be necessarily be spent on more fiscally productive projects. From my point of view, he is a saint for doing what he can, and seems to be singular in the effort to protect and preserve this white elephant. I also emphasized my interest to visit and perhaps take some pictures in order to better inform the organ community about this mysterious relic of American Organbuilding. He promised to keep my letter and contact me next time he plans to be there. To be sure, I couldn't ask for more. Thanks again to Mack for the dynamite lead on this story, and you can be sure I will pass on any further news as it comes my way. By the way, George seems to think The City of Cleveland would have no intentions of tearing down Public Hall despite reports of a new convention center being planned. He says the building is still in terrific condition, and remains valuable as a site for smaller shows and gatherings that don't require the massive capacity of the convention center. Lets hope he's right. Cheers Mike    
(back) Subject: Trinity Sunday (x-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 16:59:20 -0700   St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church 2300 Ford Road (at Bonita Canyon and Prairie Roads) Newport Beach CA USA   The Rev'd Stephen C. Scarlett, Rector The Rev'd Richard L. Stapp, Assisting The Rev'd Messrs Robert Blythin, David Brounstein, Deacons Mr. Raymond H. "Bud" Clark, Choirmaster and Organist Mr. George Pavlov, Chanter   Sung Masses at 9 & 11 a.m.   Processional Hymn - Holy, Holy, Holy - Nicaea Introit - Benedicta sit - Dr. Willan (11:00 only) Setting Willan / Scottish Chant - 9:00 Mass IX / Scottish Chant - 11:00 Gradual - Benedictus es - Anglican Chant - Stanley in G Alleluia - Gloria Patri - Gregorian, Tone 6 Offertory - Benedictus sit - Rossini / Clark Communion - Benedicimus Deum - Rossini / Clark Communion Hymn - Holy, Holy, Holy Lord - St. Athanasius Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Recessional Hymn - Holy God, We Praise Thy Name - Grosser Gott   Well, the house wasn't exactly FILLED with smoke, but we DID have SOME at 11:00 (chuckle). They're being stingy with the incense these days. Just as well ... the chanter was having an allergy attack.   It was good to sing St. Athanasius again ... I think the last time I played it was St. Paul's in Winter Haven FL, c. 1962. The rector hated it, of course (grin), but the congregation didn't ... they sang up a = storm.   A good day ... nothing remarkable ... the rector preached a good sermon on the cosmic joys of heaven and the Beatific Vision ... rather mystical for him, and rather descriptive.   One of the deacons brought me communion in the loft after the first Mass.   Evensong last night for our Youth Group ... they left early this morning for Alaska to paint houses for the poor. Good crowd ... about 75.   Preces - ferial Psalms - Tone 8 Office Hymn - Rejoice, The Year Upon Its Way - Mechlin "Verbum supernum" tune Magnificat - Anglican Chant - Barnby in D Nunc dimittis - Anglican Chant - Dupuis in g minor Creed and Suffrages - ferial Final Hymn - Remember All The Children - Far Off Lands   We FINALLY had occasion to sing "The Tarzan Hymn" (chuckle). One lady in the congregation had been asking for it for YEARS (grin).   No Corpus Christi celebration ... I tried, the deacons tried, Fr. Stapp tried ... but the rector was adamant.   Oh well.   Cheers,   Bud            
(back) Subject: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters (x-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 18:26:49 -0700   I sorta came in on the middle of this ... if it's an older ANALOG Baldwin, older techs should still be able to work on it, and parts are to be had at Rad-Shack, for the most part. If it's a pre-Visconti DIGITAL Baldwin, all bets are off. If it's a POST-Visconti Baldwin, what in heaven's name are you doing with it in the FIRST place (chuckle)? The Italians never DID *quite* figure out what to do with electricity, Marconi notwithstanding (grin).   I am having a case of the "screaming woo-woos" over using solid-state computer components to drive our PIPE ORGAN. I WELL remember the nightmares that Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music (and others) had when Phelps left Ca$$$avant and took the blueprints (AND the person who BUILT the combination actions, if I recall correctly) with him when he departed. A later organ built under his own name in the Community Church in Carlsbad CA had to have all the electrical systems replaced, since of course there is no more PHELPS, either.   A pipe organ may last for hundreds of years as far as the wood, metal, windchests, and other "traditional" components, but aren't we up against the exact same thing with computer consoles on pipe organs as we are with electronic organs? Just exactly HOW long is this stuff going to last, and how costly is it going to be to replace it?   And NOW we're using computers not only for the combination action and the memories, but for the key and stop action as well; I've also heard some horror stories about THAT.   Builders?   Comments?   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: settings of same text From: <MFoxy9795@aol.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 21:59:33 -0400     "Psalm 121, "I Will Lift Up Mine Eyes," by Ernest Walker and Leo Sowerby. = The Walker is gorgeous, although for ATB, but I confess to being low church enough to prefer it with sopranos doubling the altos."   Do all the settings have to be accompanied? There is a very nice setting = of Psalm 121 for SATB a cappella by Kodaly.   There is also a beautiful setting of Psalm 23 for SSAA with piano by = Schubert. Merry Foxworth   =B4=A8=A8)) -:=A6:- =B8.=B7=B4 .=B7=B4=A8=A8)) ((=B8=B8.=B7=B4 ..=B7=B4 -:=A6:-   An excerpt from Robert Giddings "Musical Quotes and Anecdotes", published in Longman Pocket Companions: "There let the pealing organ blow, To the full-voiced choir below, In service high, and anthems clear, As may with sweetness, through mine ear, Dissolve me into ecstasies, And bring all Heav'n before mine eyes". John Milton - Il Penseroso (1632).   http://ibo.bww.com/foxworth password: foxy    
(back) Subject: The Glory of the Human Voice From: "Kenneth Potter" <swell_shades@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 19:36:56 -0700 (PDT)   Folks, I apologize for being totally off topic - not an organ to be heard, but you must check out http://www.wingmusic.co.nz/listen.html A friend sent me the url. It seems to be flying around musical circles, so why should organists be deprived.   Ken   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Kenneth Potter, Organist/Director of Music St. Peter's Episcopal Church, Westchester Square, Bronx, NY 845/358-2528 <swell_shades@yahoo.com>, Austin Op. 2097 at: = http://www.nycago.org/Organs/html/StPetersEpBronx.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters(x-posted) From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 20:22:05 -0700   > I am having a case of the "screaming woo-woos" over using solid-state > computer components to drive our PIPE ORGAN. I WELL remember the > nightmares that Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music (and others) > had when Phelps left Ca$$$avant and took the blueprints (AND the person > who BUILT the combination actions, if I recall correctly) with him when > he departed. A later organ built under his own name in the Community > Church in Carlsbad CA had to have all the electrical systems replaced, > since of course there is no more PHELPS, either. > > Just exactly HOW long is this stuff going to > last, and how costly is it going to be to replace it? > > And NOW we're using computers not only for the combination action and > the memories, but for the key and stop action as well; I've also heard > some horror stories about THAT. > > Builders? > > Comments? > There is no doubt that the early solid-state systems had many problems. = Larry Phelps told me, probably 30 years ago, that there were not any systems = that did not have some problems.   However, the SSL system in our Rieger has worked perfectly for 22 years. We replaced it last summer, not because of problems, but because we wanted to up- grade. We now have 256 levels of memory, piston sequencers, etc., etc. The new computer that does all this is smaller than the original single level = system. A system like this is far easier to repair/replace/upgrade than the old = wind or all electric systems that we used to have. I believe that new, solid state consoles will last much longer and be much easier to rebuild than the = older style consoles. They have FAR few moving parts to wear out.   But, beware, there are several companies supplying these systems, and I do not think they are all equal in quality or functionality. I have absolute faith in SSL, and no experience with Peterson. I am leery of Classic based on one year of experience with one of their systems.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: upcoming trip From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 23:26:01 -0400   To the list:   I will be travelling around the North Central part of the US between July = 24 and August 6. I will be performing on 7/26 and 7/27 in the Upper = Peninsula of Michigan. Are there any more instruments (theatre organs preferred) = that I might get access to while I'm up there? I'm going to be visiting family in Eau Claire, Wisconsin while there but will be travelling down to Barrington, Ilto see the Sanfillipo organ as well. How about it ATOS chapter folks? I'm flying into Milwaukee on the 24th and leaving from = there on the 6th of August.   Thanks Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Tampa Theatre, Tampa, FL (3/12 Wurlitzer) Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes (substitute) (4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/98 Rufatti/Wicks/Rodgers) CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS      
(back) Subject: Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters(x-posted) From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:19:22 -0500   quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > I am having a case of the "screaming woo-woos" over using solid-state > computer components to drive our PIPE ORGAN. I WELL remember the > nightmares that Cincinnati College-Conservatory of Music (and others) > had when Phelps left Ca$$$avant and took the blueprints (AND the person > who BUILT the combination actions, if I recall correctly) with him when > he departed. A later organ built under his own name in the Community > Church in Carlsbad CA had to have all the electrical systems replaced, > since of course there is no more PHELPS, either.   In the Beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Then He created electricity, and then early perpetrators tried their hand at doing it themselves.   We've come a LONG way in terms of reliability since then.   Dennis is right that likely, the technology is going to obsolete itself before the parts wear out, except in the case of lightning strikes. > A pipe organ may last for hundreds of years as far as the wood, metal, > windchests, and other "traditional" components, but aren't we up against > the exact same thing with computer consoles on pipe organs as we are > with electronic organs? Just exactly HOW long is this stuff going to > last, and how costly is it going to be to replace it?   The BIG difference is that when the technology goes south on a pipe organ, replacing it represents maybe 10% of the value "lost", whereas with an electronic, it's more like 99%, since all you have is a carcase and keyboards.   Maybe. If they're well-constructed to begin-with (like Dennis' AOB console!) > And NOW we're using computers not only for the combination action and > the memories, but for the key and stop action as well; I've also heard > some horror stories about THAT.   Quite frankly, there were MORE horror stories with dead notes and other problems with the pre-solid state (analog) relay systems than there EVER were with solid state. It's just in the good old days, other than using Tracker action, there was not choice: use it or NOTHING. Now, we have a myriad of choices; all of which don't like lightning, but most people are so CHEAP that they forget that a simple little $125.00 UPS like on computers would make a HUGE difference in terms of preventing those kinds of problems.   Additionally, I have presented a paper on the proper GROUNDING of organ circuit wiring when the organ is OFF to prevent problems at last year's 2002 AIO mid-year Seminar. Technical information on this is on our web page at the following URL:   http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com/techinfo.shtml   I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this wiring arrangement for EVERYONE who has an organ in lightning-prone areas. The biggest problem possible is when the organ wiring simply "floats" without being tied to anything when the organ is off. If it is all referenced to GROUND, then the vast majority of lightning-related problems would simply go away!   > Builders? > Comments?   Simple: get someone who knows what they're DOING to wire your organ in the first place!   Faithfully,   G.A. -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS    
(back) Subject: Re: The Glory of the Human Voice From: "dreddnott" <dreddnott@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2003 22:24:55 -0700 (PDT)   Those are some truly amazing recordings. I was brought to my knees!   -- Jacob   > Folks, I apologize for being totally off topic - not an organ to be > heard, but you must check out http://www.wingmusic.co.nz/listen.html > A friend sent me the url. It seems to be flying around musical > circles, so why should organists be deprived. > > Ken   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com