PipeChat Digest #3758 - Monday, June 16, 2003
 
Email filtering
  by "Paul Austin" <pianoman1@ntlworld.com>
Piporg-l
  by "Paul Austin" <pianoman1@ntlworld.com>
Re: Piporg-l
  by "Roger Brown" <roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org>
Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters(x-posted)
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters (x-posted)
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins
  by "Ray Kimber" <ray@kimber.com>
Re: Solid-State Longevity
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins
  by "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com>
 

(back) Subject: Email filtering From: "Paul Austin" <pianoman1@ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:05:03 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0028_01C333F7.2354BB00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi,   Just to add my 2 pence worth, I have my outlook Express set up with 2 =3D different email address's. One of them is the one I dish out to friends = =3D as my personal email address, and the other (this one) I use for mailing = =3D lists. That way, I can log onto whichever account I feel like at the =3D time. Also, this stops business or family emails from being lost =3D amongst list mailings. I find this much simpler than trying to filter =3D specific emails into different in-boxes.   PA     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0028_01C333F7.2354BB00 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just to add my 2 pence worth, I have = my =3D outlook=3D20 Express set up with 2 different email address's.&nbsp; One of them is =3D the one I=3D20 dish out to friends as my personal email address, and the other (this =3D one) I use=3D20 for mailing lists.&nbsp; That way, I can log onto whichever account I =3D feel like=3D20 at the time.&nbsp; Also, this stops business or family emails from being = =3D lost=3D20 amongst list mailings.&nbsp; I find this much simpler than trying to =3D filter=3D20 specific emails into different in-boxes.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>PA</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0028_01C333F7.2354BB00--    
(back) Subject: Piporg-l From: "Paul Austin" <pianoman1@ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 11:08:54 +0100   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0033_01C333F7.AD060F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hello again,   Although I realise that pipechat is the better of the two lists (;-)) =3D what do I need to do to be qualified to send emails to piporg-l??? I =3D have tried in the past to send replies or questions, and have always had = =3D my emails bounced back to me. I realise my emails are not very =3D exciting, but it would be nice to have the chance. I recieve all =3D piporg-l emails, but just have problems sending 'em!   Paul. ------=3D_NextPart_000_0033_01C333F7.AD060F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hello again,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Although I realise that pipechat is = the =3D better of=3D20 the two lists (;-))&nbsp; what do I need to do to be qualified to send =3D emails to=3D20 piporg-l???&nbsp; I have tried in the past to send replies or questions, = =3D and=3D20 have always had my emails bounced back to me.&nbsp; I realise my emails = =3D are not=3D20 very exciting, but it would be nice to have the chance.&nbsp; I recieve = =3D all=3D20 piporg-l emails, but just have problems sending 'em!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paul.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0033_01C333F7.AD060F20--    
(back) Subject: Re: Piporg-l From: "Roger Brown" <roger2@rogerbrown.no-ip.org> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:30:02 +1000   SGVsbG8gUGF1bCwNCg0KTW9uZGF5LCBKdW5lIDE2LCAyMDAzLCA4OjA4OjU0IFBNLCB5b3Ug d3JvdGU6DQoNCj4gQWx0aG91Z2ggSSByZWFsaXNlIHRoYXQgcGlwZWNoYXQgaXMgdGhlIGJl dHRlciBvZiB0aGUgdHdvIGxpc3RzDQo+ICg7LSkpICB3aGF0IGRvIEkgbmVlZCB0byBkbyB0 byBiZSBxdWFsaWZpZWQgdG8gc2VuZCBlbWFpbHMgdG8NCj4gcGlwb3JnLWw/Pz8gIEkgaGF2 ZSB0cmllZCBpbiB0aGUgcGFzdCB0byBzZW5kIHJlcGxpZXMgb3IgcXVlc3Rpb25zLA0KPiBh bmQgaGF2ZSBhbHdheXMgaGFkIG15IGVtYWlscyBib3VuY2VkIGJhY2sgdG8gbWUuICBJIHJl YWxpc2UgbXkNCj4gZW1haWxzIGFyZSBub3QgdmVyeSBleGNpdGluZywgYnV0IGl0IHdvdWxk IGJlIG5pY2UgdG8gaGF2ZSB0aGUNCj4gY2hhbmNlLiAgSSByZWNpZXZlIGFsbCBwaXBvcmct bCBlbWFpbHMsIGJ1dCBqdXN0IGhhdmUgcHJvYmxlbXMNCj4gc2VuZGluZyAnZW0hDQoNCkZy b20gdGhlIFBpcG9yZy1MIHdlbGNvbWUgbWVzc2FnZToNCg0KUG9zdGluZyB0byAgdGhlIGxp c3QgaXMgIGxpbWl0ZWQgdG8gaXRzICBzdWJzY3JpYmVycyBhbmQsIG9mICB0aG9zZSwgb25s eQ0KdGhvc2UgIGVuam95aW5nIGZ1bGwgIG1lbWJlcnNoaXAuICBOZXcgc3Vic2NyaWJlcnMg IGFsd2F5cyAgc3RhcnQgd2l0aCAgYQ0Kbm9uLWNvcnJlc3BvbmRpbmcgbWVtYmVyc2hpcCB3 aGljaCBtZWFucyAgdGhhdCB0aGV5IHJlY2VpdmUgYWxsIHBvc3RpbmdzLA0KYnV0IG1heSAg bm90IHBvc3QgdG8gIHRoZSBsaXN0IHRoZW1zZWx2ZXMuIE5vbi1jb3JyZXNwb25kaW5nICBt ZW1iZXJzIG1heQ0KYXBwbHkgZm9yIGZ1bGwgbWVtYmVyc2hpcCBieSBzZW5kaW5nIG1haWwg dG8gcGlwb3JnLnN1YnNjcmliZUBhbGJhbnkuZWR1Lg0KVGhlIG1lc3NhZ2Ugc2hvdWxkICBp bmNsdWRlIHlvdXIgbmFtZSwgcG9zdGFsICBhZGRyZXNzLCB0ZWxlcGhvbmUgbnVtYmVyLA0K cHJvZmVzc2lvbmFsIGFmZmlsaWF0aW9uIChpZiBhbnkpIGFuZCAgYSBwYXJhZ3JhcGggb3Ig dHdvIGFib3V0IHlvdXJzZWxmLg0KVGhlIG1lc3NhZ2UgIG11c3QgYWxzbyBpbmNsdWRlICBh IHN0YXRlbWVudCB0aGF0ICB5b3UgaGF2ZSByZWFkICB0aGUgbGlzdA0KZ3VpZGVsaW5lcyAo c2VudCB0byB5b3UgdW5kZXIgc2VwYXJhdGUgY292ZXIpIGFuZCB0aGF0IHlvdSBhZ3JlZSB0 byBhYmlkZQ0KYnkgdGhlbS4NCg0KSGF2ZSB5b3UgZG9uZSB0aGF0Pw0KDQoNCi0tIA0KUmVn YXJkcywNClJvZ2VyDQoNClJvZ2VyIEJyb3duDQpyb2dlcjJAcm9nZXJicm93bi5uby1pcC5v cmcNCmh0dHA6Ly9yb2dlcmJyb3duLm5vLWlwLm9yZw0KaHR0cDovL21lbWJlci5tZWxicGMu b3JnLmF1L35yb2Jyb3duLw0K      
(back) Subject: Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters(x-posted) From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:32:58 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_6d17.11d6.4141 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:19:22 -0500 Richard Schneider <arpschneider@starband.net> writes: > quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > I am having a case of the "screaming woo-woos" over using > solid-state computer components to drive our PIPE ORGAN. > > > A pipe organ may last for hundreds of years as far as the wood, > metal, windchests, and other "traditional" components, but aren't we up   > against the exact same thing with computer consoles on pipe organs as we > are with electronic organs? Just exactly HOW long is this stuff going > to last, and how costly is it going to be to replace it?     Greetings all:   The craftsman in me prefers the older systems. A great deal of artisanry is required to build such systems. The practical part of me recognizes real value in Solid State systems.   Generally, the major cost of "solid-stating" an instrument is the conversion of the instrument to "understand" one. Where the combination action probably once relied on mechanical linkage, it must be converted so that each knob or tab has its own on-off device. There is also a significant amount of rewiring involved.   We have dealt with some lightening damage. Generally, it has involved the replacement of a few chips, or sometimes a small printed circuit. The cost was negligible. We had one severe strike, which knocked out the whole microprocessor. The cost for that one was $5500.00 plus an hour's labor. Insurance covered the cost, and the turn-around time was three days. The value of this particular instrument is three-and-a-half million. Percentage cost for repair: 0.0016%     > The BIG difference is that when the technology goes south on a > pipe organ, replacing it represents maybe 10% of the value > "lost", whereas with an electronic, it's more like 99%, since > all you have is a carcase and keyboards.   It matters not when technology bypasses your solid state system. So far, every system out there still uses commonly available repair parts. No more technology is required to run an organ than was available on an old Apple IIe.       > Additionally, I have presented a paper on the proper GROUNDING > of organ circuit wiring when the organ is OFF to prevent > problems at last year's 2002 AIO mid-year Seminar. Technical > information on this is on our web page at the following URL: > I HIGHLY RECOMMEND this wiring arrangement for EVERYONE who > has an organ in lightning-prone areas. The biggest problem > possible is when the organ wiring simply "floats" without > being tied to anything when the organ is off. If it is all > referenced to GROUND, then the vast majority of > lightning-related problems would simply go away!     Actually, my experience with lightening has been much different from Richard's. I see little difference with or without a floating ground. Some protection is offered from capacitive-charge ground bleeders, but any electrician will tell you that lightening still eludes our ability to protect electronic circuitry. In pipe organs this is definitely the case. Every note, every knob, every function requires the use of an electromagnetic coil. Some of the worst damage occurs from the induced current created in every one of these coils in the presence of the charge caused by the lightening. This induced current flows back into the system, potentially doing damage at every connection point. There is absolutely no way to alleviate this problem. Grounds, of any kind, are no help.   My point is that the cost of lightening repair is generally minimal, and usually covered by insurance. Turn around time for parts and repair is generally "between Sundays."   All of that said, part of me will always prefer the old ways. I am too much of a nineteenth-century technology buff to feel otherwise.   Jim McFarland http://www.sdgorgans.com (Web site low on content as yet, but the tool section is interesting) ----__JNP_000_6d17.11d6.4141 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3Dcontent-type = content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Dus-ascii> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bottomMargin=3D3D0 leftMargin=3D3D3 topMargin=3D3D0 = rightMargin=3D3D3> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>On Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:19:22 -0500 Richard Schneider &lt;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:arpschneider@starband.net">arpschneider@starband.net</A>&g= t;=3D =3D20 writes:<BR>&gt; <A = href=3D3D"mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com">quilisma@socal.rr.=3D com</A>=3D20 wrote:<BR>&gt; <BR><FONT size=3D3D1>&gt; &gt; I am having a case of the = "=3D screaming=3D20 woo-woos" over using <BR>&gt; solid-state computer components to drive our = =3D PIPE=3D20 ORGAN. <BR>&gt;&nbsp; <BR>&gt; &gt; A pipe organ may last for hundreds of = =3D years=3D20 as far as the wood, <BR>&gt; metal, windchests, and other = "traditional"=3D20 components, but aren't we up <BR>&gt; against&nbsp;the exact same thing = =3D with=3D20 computer consoles on pipe organs as we <BR>&gt; are with electronic = organs?=3D Just=3D20 exactly HOW long is this stuff going <BR>&gt; to &nbsp;last, and how = costly=3D is=3D20 it going to be to replace it?</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Greetings all:</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>The craftsman in me prefers the older systems. A great deal of =3D artisanry is=3D20 required to build such systems. The practical part of me recognizes real = =3D value=3D20 in Solid State systems.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Generally, the major cost of "solid-stating" an instrument is = the=3D20 conversion of the instrument to "understand" one.&nbsp; Where the =3D combination=3D20 action probably once relied on mechanical linkage, it must be converted so = =3D that=3D20 each knob or tab has its own on-off device.&nbsp; There is also a =3D significant=3D20 amount of rewiring involved.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>We have dealt with some lightening damage.&nbsp; Generally, it has = =3D involved=3D20 the replacement of a few chips, or sometimes a small printed = circuit.&nbsp;=3D The=3D20 cost was negligible.&nbsp; We had one severe strike, which knocked out the = =3D whole=3D20 microprocessor. The cost for that one was $5500.00 plus an hour's = labor.&=3D nbsp;=3D20 Insurance covered the cost, and the turn-around time was three days.&nbsp; = =3D The=3D20 value of this particular instrument is three-and-a-half = million.&nbsp;=3D20 Percentage cost for repair:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; = 0.0016%<BR></DIV> <DIV><BR><FONT size=3D3D1>&gt; The BIG difference is that when the = technology=3D goes=3D20 south on a<BR>&gt; pipe organ, replacing it represents maybe 10% of = the=3D20 value<BR>&gt; "lost", whereas with an electronic, it's more like 99%,=3D20 since<BR>&gt; all you have is a carcase and keyboards.</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>It matters not when technology bypasses your solid state = system.&nbsp;=3D So=3D20 far, every system out there still uses commonly available repair = parts.&=3D nbsp;No=3D20 more technology is required to run an organ than was available on an old = =3D Apple=3D20 IIe.<BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT size=3D3D1>&gt; Additionally, I have presented a = =3D paper on=3D20 the proper GROUNDING<BR>&gt; of organ circuit wiring when the organ is OFF = =3D to=3D20 prevent<BR>&gt; problems at last year's 2002 AIO mid-year = Seminar.&nbsp;=3D20 Technical<BR>&gt; information on this is on our web page at the = following=3D20 URL:<BR>&gt; </FONT><A href=3D3D"http://I"><FONT = size=3D3D1>I</FONT></A><FONT =3D size=3D3D1>=3D20 HIGHLY RECOMMEND this wiring arrangement for EVERYONE who<BR>&gt; has an = =3D organ=3D20 in lightning-prone areas.&nbsp; The biggest problem<BR>&gt; possible is = =3D when the=3D20 organ wiring simply "floats" without<BR>&gt; being tied to anything when = =3D the=3D20 organ is off.&nbsp; If it is all<BR>&gt; referenced to GROUND, then the = =3D vast=3D20 majority of<BR>&gt; lightning-related problems would simply go=3D20 away!</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Actually, my experience with lightening has been much different = from=3D20 Richard's. I see little difference with or without a floating = ground.&nbsp;=3D Some=3D20 protection is offered from capacitive-charge ground bleeders, but any=3D20 electrician will tell you that lightening still eludes&nbsp;our ability = to=3D =3D20 protect electronic circuitry.&nbsp; In pipe organs this is definitely = the=3D20 case.&nbsp; Every note, every knob, every function requires the use of = an=3D20 electromagnetic coil.&nbsp; Some of the worst damage occurs from the =3D induced=3D20 current&nbsp;created&nbsp;in&nbsp;every one of these coils in the presence = =3D of=3D20 the charge caused by the lightening. This induced current flows back into = =3D the=3D20 system, potentially doing damage at every connection point. There is =3D absolutely=3D20 no way to alleviate this problem. Grounds, of any kind, are no help.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>My point is that the cost of lightening repair is generally minimal, = =3D and=3D20 usually covered by insurance.&nbsp; Turn around time for parts and repair = =3D is=3D20 generally "between Sundays."</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>All of that said, part of me will always prefer the old ways.&nbsp; I = =3D am=3D20 too much of a nineteenth-century technology buff to feel otherwise.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Jim McFarland<BR><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.sdgorgans.com">http://www.sdgorgans.com</A></DIV> <DIV>(Web site low on content as yet, but the tool section is = interesting)<=3D /DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_6d17.11d6.4141--    
(back) Subject: Re: what to do about that pesky Bawld-One, and related matters (x-posted) From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:46:45 EDT     --part1_1ce.c0164f9.2c1f0825_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   BALDWINS FOR THE MOST PART CAN BE FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Stevens Organ in Arkansas can fix pre Italy organs and CHURCH ORGAN SYSTEMS in Wisconsin has parts for ALL(I REPEAT ALL) Italian made Baldwin Organs.   888 557-5397   Shame for casting aspersions.   dale in florida   --part1_1ce.c0164f9.2c1f0825_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">BALDWINS FOR THE MOST PART CAN BE = FIXED!!!!!!!!!!!!!=3D !!!!<BR> <BR> Stevens Organ in Arkansas can fix pre Italy organs and <BR> CHURCH ORGAN SYSTEMS in Wisconsin has parts for ALL(I REPEAT ALL) Italian = ma=3D de Baldwin Organs.<BR> <BR> 888 557-5397<BR> <BR> Shame for casting aspersions.<BR> <BR> dale in florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ce.c0164f9.2c1f0825_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins From: "Ray Kimber" <ray@kimber.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 08:08:17 -0600   Hello List,   I'll take one more chance at being slightly off topic (and very out of = tune w/galloping trems) Wing has quite a set of pipes, but your musical experience can't be complete without exposure to Florence Foster Jenkins, who had a run of SRO performances in Carnegie Hall.   Here is the amazon link, where it has a rating of 4.5 stars!   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003F97/qid=3D1055771720/s= r=3D1 -1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/102-5420234-3523355?v=3Dglance&s=3Dclassical   The Mozart will leave you with tears streaming down your cheeks.   Ray    
(back) Subject: Re: Solid-State Longevity From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 10:14:33 EDT   When discussing consoles, new pipe organs, or the rebuilding of pipe organs, a responsible organbuilder will explain to their clients that they = should expect to replace, not restore, the combination action every quarter of a century or so. They will clearly distinguish between the restorability of = organ actions and the replacement of solid-state systems.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins From: "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 07:57:31 -0700 (PDT)   --0-35490463-1055775451=3D:86952 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii   I was introduced to the "music" of Florence Foster Jenkins while in High = School and have a 78 recording of her "singing." Since my neck surgery, = which pierced a vocal cord, my new husband tells me I must have studied = with her. We also have a re-issue on a CD. Lee (Eyrline Morgan)   Ray Kimber <ray@kimber.com> wrote:Hello List,   I'll take one more chance at being slightly off topic (and very out of = tune w/galloping trems) Wing has quite a set of pipes, but your musical experience can't be complete without exposure to Florence Foster Jenkins, who had a run of SRO performances in Carnegie Hall.   Here is the amazon link, where it has a rating of 4.5 stars!   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003F97/qid=3D1055771720/s= r=3D1 -1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/102-5420234-3523355?v=3Dglance&s=3Dclassical   The Mozart will leave you with tears streaming down your cheeks.   Ray     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org       --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-35490463-1055775451=3D:86952 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <DIV>I was introduced to the "music" of Florence Foster Jenkins while in = High School and have a 78 recording of her "singing."&nbsp; Since my neck = surgery, which pierced a vocal cord, my new husband tells me I must have = studied with her.&nbsp;&nbsp; We also have a re-issue on a CD.&nbsp; Lee = (Eyrline Morgan)<BR><BR><B><I>Ray Kimber &lt;ray@kimber.com&gt;</I></B> = wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: = #1010ff 2px solid">Hello List,<BR><BR>I'll take one more chance at being = slightly off topic (and very out of tune<BR>w/galloping trems) Wing has = quite a set of pipes, but your musical<BR>experience can't be complete = without exposure to Florence Foster Jenkins,<BR>who had a run of SRO = performances in Carnegie Hall.<BR><BR>Here is the amazon link, where it = has a rating of 4.5 = stars!<BR><BR>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003F97/qid= =3D1055771720/sr=3D1<BR>-1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/102-5420234-3523355?v=3Dglance&amp;= s=3Dclassical<BR><BR>The Mozart will leave you with tears streaming down = your cheeks.<BR><BR>Ray<BR><BR><BR>"Pipe Up and Be Heard!"<BR>PipeChat: A = discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; related topics<BR>HOMEPAGE : = http://www.pipechat.org<BR>List: = mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org<BR>Administration: = mailto:admin@pipechat.org<BR>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: = mailto:requests@pipechat.org<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><p><hr SIZE=3D1> Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/search/mailsig/*http://search.yahoo.com">The= New Yahoo! Search</a> - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-35490463-1055775451=3D:86952--