PipeChat Digest #3763 - Thursday, June 19, 2003
 
RE: Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins
  by "Bill Sebring" <baircub@austin.rr.com>
Anna Russell
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: The Glory of the Human Voice
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Scandinavian music recordings
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
The Glory of the Human Voice
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
Re: Scandinavian music recordings
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Buxtehude
  by <lindr@cch.com>
Re: Buxtehude
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
OHS Harrisburg!
  by <Oboe32@aol.com>
Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question)
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Anna Russell/Wm. Russell
  by <lindr@cch.com>
RE: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question)
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question)
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
old joke
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
odd schemes
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: odd schemes
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: odd schemes
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
stuff & nonsense
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins From: "Bill Sebring" <baircub@austin.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 06:47:42 -0500   I listened to "Wing" doing the Carpenters....the following thoughts came = to mind.....   1. The Singing Sword from an old Warner Brothers cartoon.   2. the female vocalist who sang the opening and closing themes in "The Kentucky Fried Movie". (I cannot remember who it was, but know that THAT vocalist actually was just being silly and was quite good otherwise.)   I could not believe that "Wing" actually got signed by a company. Like nails on a chalkboard.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Shirley Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 4:03 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Wing vs Florence Foster Jenkins         On 16 Jun 2003 at 8:08, Ray Kimber wrote: > I'll take one more chance at being slightly off topic (and very out of > tune w/galloping trems) Wing has quite a set of pipes, but your > musical experience can't be complete without exposure to Florence > Foster Jenkins, who had a run of SRO performances in Carnegie Hall. > > Here is the amazon link, where it has a rating of 4.5 stars! > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000003F97/qid=3D105577172 > 0/sr=3D1 -1/ref=3Dsr_1_1/102-5420234-3523355?v=3Dglance&s=3Dclassical > > The Mozart will leave you with tears streaming down your cheeks.     The word that appeared in Windows Media Player at the end was indeed appropriate - "Hurl".   SRO at CARNEGIE of all places?!?   --Shirley     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Anna Russell From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 09:50:42 -0500   Heard some absolutely hilarious Anna Russell on a public radio show a year or two ago. Last time I checked, there were still commercial recordings of her available--two or three CDs.   Dennis Steckley   Every gun that is made and every warship that is launched, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed--Dwight Eisenhower        
(back) Subject: Re: The Glory of the Human Voice From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:11:46 -0400   On 6/17/03 10:46 PM, "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> wrote:   > Does anyone remember her?   Me. I recall her LP, "Anna Russell Sings!" But there's some question = about the truth of that statement.   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Scandinavian music recordings From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:04:41 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Alan Freed wrote: (SNIP)   > One of the likely birthplaces cited is > in what is now Sweden, though I think Denmark claimed the acreage for a > while at the time. But, admittedly, neither the time nor the place = (even > country!) of his birth is a sure thing. The family was a bit = peripatetic.   What about following: From swedish parents, he was "made" in Denmark and born in North Germany From danish parents, he was "made" in N-Germany and born in Sweden From german parents, he was "made" in Sweden and born in Denmark Etc... <G>   Just kidding. Couldn't resist :)   Cheers Andres [for "newcomers" on this thread: We're referring to Dietrich Buxtehude] =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.    
(back) Subject: The Glory of the Human Voice From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:51:01 -0400   Re: Anna Russell - Even at my advanced age, I'm too young to "remember" her. I've heard many of her recordings and the memory brings a big grin to my face!! I wonder if she and Victor Borge were related or ever worked together! Wouldn't that be a hoot!!!!   David Baker    
(back) Subject: Re: Scandinavian music recordings From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:28:53 -0400   On 6/18/03 1:04 PM, "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> wrote: >=20 > What about following: > From swedish parents, he was "made" in Denmark and born in North Germany > From danish parents, he was "made" in N-Germany and born in Sweden > From german parents, he was "made" in Sweden and born in Denmark > Etc... <G> >=20 > Just kidding. Couldn't resist :) >=20 I'd say "Yes!" Something like that. You make as much sense of it as anyon= e COULD! Although I don't think there WAS a "Germany" at that time, was there? =20   I was relying on a French paragraph from somewhere that said something like= :   Though his family originated in the town of Buxtehude, south-west of Hamburg, his ancestors were established, from the very start of the 16th century, in Oldesloe in the duchy of Holstein. His father, Johannes (1602-1674), was an organist and schoolmaster and its presence with Oldeslo= e is documented until 1638 whereas [he moved to?] Helsingborg in the district of Scania (now Halsingborg, Sweden) [is that Skane today?] to become organist at the Marienkirche. Holstein and Scania were under Danish control. A little later, in 1641 or 1642, he moved to Helsingor in Denmark to become organist at the Olaikirche, a position which he held until his retirement in 1671. [Is that, then, the town to which JSB hiked to hear hi= m play?]   Next week: A contest to collect the largest number of spellings of the gentleman's Christian name.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Buxtehude From: <lindr@cch.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 13:26:16 -0500     Alan--your paragraph, below, refers to Diderik's father. Bach went to L=FCbeck to hear Buxtehude. I've always marveled at the individuality i= n a work such as BuxWV 150. This is territory that seems to belong exclusiv= ely to Buxtehude, but I rather wish Bach had been aware of it and had gone = off in more daring directions himself.   Bob Lind     I was relying on a French paragraph from somewhere that said something like:   Though his family originated in the town of Buxtehude, south-west of Hamburg, his ancestors were established, from the very start of the 16t= h century, in Oldesloe in the duchy of Holstein. His father, Johannes (1602-1674), was an organist and schoolmaster and its presence with Oldesloe is documented until 1638 whereas [he moved to?] Helsingborg in the dist= rict of Scania (now Halsingborg, Sweden) [is that Skane today?] to become organist at the Marienkirche. Holstein and Scania were under Danish control. A little later, in 1641 or 1642, he moved to Helsingor in Denm= ark to become organist at the Olaikirche, a position which he held until hi= s retirement in 1671. [Is that, then, the town to which JSB hiked to hea= r him play?]   Alan   =      
(back) Subject: Re: Buxtehude From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:56:08 -0400   On 6/18/03 2:26 PM, "lindr@cch.com" <lindr@cch.com> wrote:   > Alan--your paragraph, below, refers to Diderik's father. Bach went to > L=FCbeck to hear Buxtehude.   Ohmigoodness, Bob. You're right, of course. Got lost (by my own carelessness) among the pronouns! And I just totally forgot all about L=FCbeck! =20   Alan    
(back) Subject: OHS Harrisburg! From: <Oboe32@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:40:34 EDT   Hey All,   Note a note to say Cheers to all who are attending the OHS convention in Harrisburg tomorow! It look sto be a fun week of organing. I = am one of the two OHS Fellows this year and look forward to meeting any list = members!   Best,   Pete Isherwood  
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question) From: "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 15:55:08 -0400   ..<<<<< Personally, I'd love to hear more about the organ that one company wouldn't maintain for you.>>>>>   I don't thing there's any big secret going on. It's Peckham, from someplace around Elmira, NY. It has been a father and son operation. Times I met them the older = man talked a lot while the younger one crawled in and did the work. I think the father is around 70. Somebody----this is 3rd hand hearsay---said he had to take care of his mother, who is around 90, The son is David Peckham, who is doing theatre organ concerts-----and he's very good! He also has done a lot of work on the Rochester, NY Wurlitzers, including some voicing I believe. Apparently the father leans strongly toward trackers. He finally gave up on our Moeller, which is electropneumatic and rather complicated. Sent = a short note to the effect that he didn't want to work on it any more. Just lately 2 more churches around me got their resignation letters also, and I suggested Parsons to them. They both called Parsons and he = came right over and picked up their business. I think probably it's just that the father is getting too old to go crawling around inside these things, and the son has a different interest, gone off in another direction. Nothing scandalous, just life. Now I don't know that all that as hard fact, I'm just guessing, = putting together all the things I've seen and heard from various places. No hard feelings on my part, although they didn't do much of a job of upkeep on this organ. Guess they didn't hurt it any either, except for neglect. Same thing with Alfred and Arkport, they didn't return phone = calls and just never came at all some years. Now I've heard through gossip that they have resigned from some other churches also.   Hope that's what you were asking, Diane    
(back) Subject: Anna Russell/Wm. Russell From: <lindr@cch.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 14:57:20 -0500     My wife and I had the good fortune to see Anna Russell live at = Pick-Staiger Concert Hall, Northwestern University, somewhere between the late 1970s = and the early '80s. By that time her voice had slipped to the baritone range, but she still packed the house and was uproariously funny. The evening ended with ... what else? ... The Ring! After decades of wearing out our = LP (now replaced by a CD), we got to hear her in person. What a treat.   So, one didn't have to be too old then (or even now) to have seen her in the flesh. I'm not making this up, you know.   To get this on topic, I wonder if she was related to William Russell. I have 6 of his 12 voluntaries, as published by OUP. Has anyone published = the remainder recently?   Bob Lind     Re: Anna Russell - Even at my advanced age, I'm too young to "remember" her. I've heard many of her recordings and the memory brings a big grin to my face!! I wonder if she and Victor Borge were related or ever worked together! Wouldn't that be a hoot!!!!   David Baker        
(back) Subject: RE: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question) From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 16:13:12 -0400   Diane,   I am from around Elmira, NY know Daivd Peckham but have yet to meet the father. He has worked on the organ at my former teacher's church and has done a great job. He is a fabulous theatre organist and has a busy performing schedule. He is resident organist at the Clemens Center in Elmira and has worked on the Marr & Colton theatre organ there. My guess = is that he has had to drop some jobs because he has such a busy schedule and because his father can't do as much. Where do you live by the way? My guess is that he is dropping the jobs that are further away.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of STRAIGHT Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 3:55 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question)     ..<<<<< Personally, I'd love to hear more about the organ that one company wouldn't maintain for you.>>>>>   I don't thing there's any big secret going on. It's Peckham, from someplace around Elmira, NY. It has been a father and son operation. Times I met them the older = man talked a lot while the younger one crawled in and did the work. I think the father is around 70. Somebody----this is 3rd hand hearsay---said he had to take care of his mother, who is around 90, The son is David Peckham, who is doing theatre organ concerts-----and he's very good! He also has done a lot of work on the Rochester, NY Wurlitzers, including some voicing I believe. Apparently the father leans strongly toward trackers. He finally gave up on our Moeller, which is electropneumatic and rather complicated. Sent = a short note to the effect that he didn't want to work on it any more. Just lately 2 more churches around me got their resignation letters also, and I suggested Parsons to them. They both called Parsons and he = came right over and picked up their business. I think probably it's just that the father is getting too old to go crawling around inside these things, and the son has a different interest, gone off in another direction. Nothing scandalous, just life. Now I don't know that all that as hard fact, I'm just guessing, = putting together all the things I've seen and heard from various places. No hard feelings on my part, although they didn't do much of a job of upkeep on this organ. Guess they didn't hurt it any either, except for neglect. Same thing with Alfred and Arkport, they didn't return phone = calls and just never came at all some years. Now I've heard through gossip that they have resigned from some other churches also.   Hope that's what you were asking, Diane     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question) From: "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:15:19 -0400   <<<<<. Where do you live by the way? My guess is that he is dropping the jobs that are further away.>>>>   You're probably right. It's just about an hour to the Horseheads Mall (near Elmira) from here. = I'm west of there, near Hornell. I went to a concert last winter by David Peckham in Rochester, for the Theatre Organ Society, and I thought he was great too. One can only do so much. If he has a position and a concert schedule, he probably doesn't have time to do a whole lot more. I think he said he plays for a church also.   Diane    
(back) Subject: Re: New Organ Policy (Was: Wedding fee question) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 20:03:57 -0400   On 6/18/03 6:15 PM, "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> wrote:   > It's just about an hour to the Horseheads Mall (near Elmira) from here. = I'm > west of there, near Hornell. > I went to a concert last winter by David Peckham in Rochester, for the > Theatre Organ Society, and I thought he was great too. > One can only do so much. If he has a position and a concert schedule, > he probably doesn't have time to do a whole lot more. I think he said = he > plays for a church also.   Names and places I've never heard of. Or if I did, it was in the 60s. Well, in fact, I DID visit there (a very tiny bit) in those years. But I want to express a word of encouragement for people in "small" (har har) places. But HOW VERY OFTEN the most important things happen in those "little places." I rejoice with them, and for them. Yes, I'm in Manhattan--but that doesn't mean much, really, when it comes down to it.   I've done my time in North Dakota too (and loved it). And good things happen in places one might not believe.   Alan    
(back) Subject: old joke From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:21:26 +1200   In the last few days I've been going through some boxes of old papers of mine. Apart from finding the usual mixture of trash, treasure and trivia, = I found the following joke from Eric Copperwheat. Eric, former Cathedral DoM here in Wellington, said,   Once, an organist was asked to give a recital and played just one note, B, then stopped. Asked to continue he played just a solitary B again. When asked the reason, he said, "It's the thin end of the Wedge."   Ross   P.S. Eric is still very active in church music here, in his 80s now.    
(back) Subject: odd schemes From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:53:20 +1200   Another curiosity from the papers I've been going through. Back in the = 1960s a penfriend sent me the specification of an organ that began with prepared-for stops that were never inserted. The organ had the following scheme for many years, and I wonder if it still exists in this form -   GREAT 16 Bourdon 8 Open Diapason 8 Stopped Diapason 8 Dulciana 2 Fifteenth   SWELL 8 Gemshorn 4 Gamba 8 Cornopean 8 Oboe   CHOIR 8 Hohl Flute 8 Stopped Diapason 8 Lieblich Gedackt 8 Salicional 8 Dulciana 4 Flute   PEDAL 16 Open Diapason 16 Bourdon   COUPLERS SwGt SwCh SwPed GtPed ChPed   Is the worst design ever produced?   Ross      
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:53:30 -0700   As usual, I have NO idea what day it is (grin), but I'm on IRC if anybody wants to chat.   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: odd schemes From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 22:22:46 -0400   Hmm?? Odd Schemes? Yes these organs exist and have been in operation for 70-80 years. Virtually untouched. Acctually I know of a least a dozen examples of organs of these sizes and specs in Ontario. #1 is a very common spec here.   ********************* Swell 8' Gamba 8' Celeste 8' Aeoline 8' Stopped Diapason Tremolo   Great 8'Open Diapason 8' Dulciana 4' Principal 4' Harmonic Flute   Pedal 16' Boudon 8' Bourdon (ext)   Plus 11 couplers.   ******************   Swell Gedackt 16, 8,4,2 2/3, 2' 1 3/5' Gamba 8' Aeoline 8' Diapason 8' Oboe 8'   Great Tibia Clausa 8' (giant scale) Diapason Phonon 8' (big and dull) Dulciana 8' (wimpy)   Pedal Bourdon 16' Gedackt 16' Gedackt 8' (ext)   Plus 11 couplers   ***************** Swell Stopped Flute 8' Celeste 8' Gamba 8' Aeoline 8' Traverso Flute 4' Oboe 8'   Great Melodia 8' Dulciana 8'   Pedal Bourdon 16' Bourdon 8' (ext)   11 couplers         --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 05-Jun-03    
(back) Subject: Re: odd schemes From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 23:00:28 EDT   except for the great lacking a 4' principal, i'd say it looks like many schemes from a few decades earlier.  
(back) Subject: stuff & nonsense From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:09:38 +1200   At the risk of boring people, here is another bit of paper from the stuff I've been going through. The ideal specification, probably, for a 6-manual residence organ. I have no idea where the scheme came from -   GREAT 16 Double Diaper 8 Open Diaper 8 Stopped Diapaer 8 Hohl Flute 4 Half Flute 4 Principal 2 2/3 Interest 2 Octave 1 Super Duper Octave . Mixture 3tsp . Emulsion 2tsp 16 Tromb 8 Tromber 4 Trombest   Sw.to Gt So to Gt Some are born Gt   SWELL 16 Bourdon 8 Geiger Counter 8 Raw Flute 8 Sore Flute 8 Gamboge 8 Voix Ici (Tennessee) 4 Lack of Principle 4 Horse Flote 3 Sigaretto 2 Cigarello . Harmonics 5rks . Hysterics 3rks 16 Compound Strumpet 5'6" Strumpet 5 1/4 Oh boy! 8 Bugle 4 Clarion 2 Evening Post   CHOIR XX Squintaton 16s Doubleorquitz 0s Quitz 8 Roar Flute 7 7/8 Unda Nourish (Tee Hee) 8 Vasco di Gamba 8 Confessional 4 Flute Comique 4 Opera Comique (harmonic) 2 3/4 Verbose 2 Super Octane 1 7/8 Dieselflote 1 3/5 Terse 1 1/3 Squirt . Mixture III . Muddle vii 16 Tennis Racket 8 Crummy Horn 5 1/2 Crumpet (just right) 5 1/2 Squodge 4 Shall we?   Octave Sub-Octave Sub-Dean Curate to Choir   SOLO 16 3/4 So Low 16 So Far 8 So Good 7 Schizophrenic 6 1/8 psychotic (tease) 8 Blest Pair of Sirens IIrks 4 Liebling 4 Dulcie Banana 2 Agricola . Ice Cream Cornet 25c . Rausch Flute 3rks . Schnell Flute 2rks 16 Spotted Snake 8 Hobo   BOMBARD 8 Floot 8 Toot (sharp) 8 Hoot (flat) 4 Concert Flute 4 Concerto Hoot 2 2/3 Quince 2 Plum 1 1/3 Larry Went . Quantity 12rks 16 Bombarde 8 Bombed Out 8 Tubercular Miraculous 4 Humonic Carrion   Tubas on Holiday Dean on Holiday   Organ Off Unison Off - Off   ECHO 16 Yoo Hoo 8 Yoo Hoo Hoo 8 Positive 4 Negative 2 Fifteenth 1 7/8 Negative 8 1/8 Crank 4 3/8 Crankier 3 Crank Case   PEDAL 64 Double Open Wood 64 Double Shut Wood 32 Vile Alone 16 Open Wood 16 Shut Forest 8 Copse 5 1/4 Thicket 4 Tree 4 Shrub 2 Sapling 1 Sap 32 Awful Clyde(dale) 16 Bombed Hard 16 Ozone 8 Claret 4 Filch 0 All Gone   Ross