PipeChat Digest #3764 - Friday, June 20, 2003
 
Les Maitres, vol 6 page 9-22
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net>
Anna Russell
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
THURSDAY evening live IRC chat at 9 p.m. US Eastern Standard Time
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: THURSDAY evening live IRC chat at 9 p.m. US Eastern Standard Time
  by "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
IRC featuring me
  by "Shelley Culver" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com>
Buffalo, NY
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: Buffalo, NY
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
more stuff
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Barton organs
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Barton organs
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
RE: Barton organs
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Barton organs
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
RE: Barton organs
  by "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org>
RE: Barton organs
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Within the shadow of the everlasting hills . . .
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Barton Organs
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: more stuff
  by "Paul Austin" <pianoman1@ntlworld.com>
 

(back) Subject: Les Maitres, vol 6 page 9-22 From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 09:07:29 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0047_01C33642.35E8DA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Greetings, friends... the scanning continues   Now available pages 9-22 Volume 6 of Les Maitres:   http://www.blackiris.com/orwig/Scores/LesMaitres/vol6/LM-p9-22.PDF   Enjoy!   Jonathan     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.490 / Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/03 ------=3D_NextPart_000_0047_01C33642.35E8DA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Greetings, friends... the = scanning=3D20 continues</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Now available pages 9-22&nbsp;Volume = 6 =3D of Les=3D20 Maitres:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.blackiris.com/orwig/Scores/LesMaitres/vol6/LM-p9-22.PD= =3D F">http://www.blackiris.com/orwig/Scores/LesMaitres/vol6/LM-p9-22.PDF</A>= =3D </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Enjoy!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jonathan</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is certified = =3D Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D 6.0.490 /=3D20 Virus Database: 289 - Release Date: 6/16/03</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0047_01C33642.35E8DA60--    
(back) Subject: Anna Russell From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 13:38:16 -0400   <Snip>   > So, one didn't have to be too old then (or even now) to have seen her > in > the flesh. I'm not making this up, you know.   Maybe my age isn't as advanced as I thought! David Baker    
(back) Subject: THURSDAY evening live IRC chat at 9 p.m. US Eastern Standard Time From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:12:48 -0700   I think we got us a convoy (chuckle).   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: THURSDAY evening live IRC chat at 9 p.m. US Eastern Standard Time From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:35:42 -0700   At tonight's pseudo-Friday soiree, we will be pleased to hear from our own Shelley, recently back from the crusade in Germany, where she saw and heard many fine pipe organs. Join in at 6 pm for her report, plus all the usual things we manage to discuss!   Eric -- and sometimes, those "things" include subjects related to pipe organs     On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 02:12 PM, quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:   > I think we got us a convoy (chuckle). > > Cheers, > > Bud > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: IRC featuring me From: "Shelley Culver" <sec_oboe2002@excite.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:44:16 -0400 (EDT)     Holy cow, I was on a crusade? And I thought it was a vacation! But yes, I = would love to talk about what I did and saw and played and heard and all = that. However, like I told Eric, if i screw up, I'm claiming jet lag! I = did that with my boss, and it got me out of work early!   Also, my pictures are getting developed as we speak (I hope!), so when I = have them, I'd love to send anyone who's interested more pictures than = they care to see!   See you tonight, pipechatters! Shell       "It is often just as sacred to laugh as it is to pray."   --- On Thu 06/19, Eric McKirdy < emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu > wrote: From: Eric McKirdy [mailto: emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu] To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:35:42 -0700 Subject: Re: THURSDAY evening live IRC chat at 9 p.m. US Eastern Standard = Time   At tonight's pseudo-Friday soiree, we will be pleased to hear from our = <br>own Shelley, recently back from the crusade in Germany, where she saw = <br>and heard many fine pipe organs. Join in at 6 pm for her report, plus = <br>all the usual things we manage to discuss!<br><br>Eric -- and = sometimes, those "things" include subjects related to pipe = <br>organs<br><br><br>On Thursday, June 19, 2003, at 02:12 PM, = quilisma@socal.rr.com wrote:<br><br>> I think we got us a convoy = (chuckle).<br>><br>> Cheers,<br>><br>> Bud<br>><br>><br>><br>> "Pipe Up = and Be Heard!"<br>> PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs = & related topics<br>> HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org<br>> List: = mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org<br>> Administration: = mailto:admin@pipechat.org<br>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: = mailto:requests@pipechat.org<br>><br><br><br>"Pipe Up and Be = Heard!"<br>PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics<br>HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org<br>List: mailto:p ipechat@pipechat.org<br>Administration: = mailto:admin@pipechat.org<br>Subscribe/Unsubscribe: = mailto:requests@pipechat.org<br><br>   _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!  
(back) Subject: Buffalo, NY From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:48:12 -0500   HI all, I will be in Buffalo, NY from the 27th through July 10th and = would like to know where the largest UMC and Lutheran Church is that has the = best organs. Any I could practice on too? Thanks for your help. Gary      
(back) Subject: Re: Buffalo, NY From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 19:09:16 -0400   On 6/19/03 6:48 PM, "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> wrote:   > Lutheran Church is that has the best organs.   Surely the one at Holy Trinity Lutheran Church is the biggest within = several hundred miles (at least). "Best"? I can't say. And I have no = connections for playing; wish I did, for I'd be glad to share them.   Alan    
(back) Subject: more stuff From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 14:06:18 +1200   Hi again with another bit from my pile of stuff.   Back in late 1967 Ed Boadway wrote to me that the following was the worst organ design he'd ever seen. Does anyone know if the instrument still exists? Built by Estey 1924, Op.2243. The following stops available on = both manuals -   8 Open Diapason 8 Melodia 8 Gross Flute 8 Viol d'Orchestre 8 Viol d'amour 8 Saxophone 8 Vox Humana Chimes 8 couplers   and PEDAL 16 Bass Viol 16 Bourdon   Ross    
(back) Subject: Barton organs From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 03:50:02 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I know there are quite a few on the list who, like myself, enjoy the sounds of the theatre/cinema organs.   On the BBC last week, we heard some excellent sounds played on Barton instruments, among others.   Two questions for you folks:-   1) What is the history of the Barton company and how many organs did they build?   2) What became of the Chicago Stadium, Barton?   I ask these questions because I think the sound of a Barton is more or less the equal of the excellent Wurlitzer sound.   We don't have a great choice in the UK...mainly Wurlitzer and Compton, with a few Christie organs. The rest are pale imitations.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Barton organs From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:41:20 -0500   Colin Mitchell wrote: =20 > Two questions for you folks:- =20 > 1) What is the history of the Barton company and how > many organs did they build?   This is covered VERY eloquently in David Junchen's "Encyclopedia of the American Theatre Organ" Volume I. In fact, I was just reading up on Barton in there the other day! =20 > 2) What became of the Chicago Stadium, Barton?   The console survives in a private residence in Nevada, I believe, and the rest of the organ got destroyed by fire. =20 > I ask these questions because I think the sound of a > Barton is more or less the equal of the excellent > Wurlitzer sound.   I don't think so. Most Bartons were more refined that WurliTzers. I recently played a Barton Church organ in St. Mary's Church in Oshkosh, WI, (the home of the Barton company, BTW) and I found its sound to be quite subdued. While I grant you it was built as a church organ, it was done in an era where the Theatre sound, if builders were pre-disposed to having one, generally crept into the church voicing also. The only exceptions to that were those builders who limited themselves to the ecclesiastical markets during that era, such as =C6olian-Skinner   Hope this information is fairly accurate and helpful. I'm going by what I had recently read in the Junchen book, and my own limited Barton experience.   Faithfully,=20   G.A. --=20 Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS    
(back) Subject: RE: Barton organs From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:41:37 -0400   Colin,   I can answer your question about the Chicago Stadium organ. Michael = Barone said on Pipedreams that when the stadium closed the organ was put in a = barn for storage by the Organ Clearing House until a new home could be found, = and sadly the barn burned down and the organ was destroyed.   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Colin Mitchell Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 10:50 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Barton organs     Hello,   I know there are quite a few on the list who, like myself, enjoy the sounds of the theatre/cinema organs.   On the BBC last week, we heard some excellent sounds played on Barton instruments, among others.   Two questions for you folks:-   1) What is the history of the Barton company and how many organs did they build?   2) What became of the Chicago Stadium, Barton?   I ask these questions because I think the sound of a Barton is more or less the equal of the excellent Wurlitzer sound.   We don't have a great choice in the UK...mainly Wurlitzer and Compton, with a few Christie organs. The rest are pale imitations.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Barton organs From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:44:07 -0500     > 2) What became of the Chicago Stadium, Barton? The Barton at the Chicago Stadium was taken to Phoenix, Arizona, where it was destroyed in a warehouse fire in October 1996. The console did survive and is in the possession of Phil Maloof. More information can be found by visiting the following webpage: http://www.catoe.org/barton.html .   I hope that helps.   Alicia      
(back) Subject: RE: Barton organs From: "jch" <opus1100@catoe.org> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 23:09:36 -0500   At 11:41 PM 6/19/03 -0400, you wrote:   >Colin, > >I can answer your question about the Chicago Stadium organ. Michael = Barone >said on Pipedreams that when the stadium closed the organ was put in a = barn >for storage by the Organ Clearing House until a new home could be found, = and >sadly the barn burned down and the organ was destroyed.     If Michael Barone made this statement it is unusual for him to be so inaccurate. First, the Organ Clearing House had absolutely no connection with this organ. A local Chicago area club owner and four others provided the funds to remove the organ, when the stadium owner said he would otherwise let the organ down with the building. The organ was moved to Phoenix and stored in a warehouse with another Barton organ that had been =   installed in the club and a restored Wurlitzer. All three organs were totally destroyed. The console and a set of Tuba Mirabilis pipes from the stadium were not in the warehouse and survived. Phil Maloof purchased = these and the console is playing another Barton organ in his music room and the Tuba Mirabilis was installed in the Roxy's Pizzeria organ in Las Vegas. The Roxy's organ has since been broken up for parts. The Barton Organ Company installed a large number of instruments in the midwest and several of them are still in their original homes. One of the better known =   instruments is in the Rialto Square Theatre in Joliet, Illinois and is = used regularly and featured annually at a weekend organ fest. Another Barton is =   the small 9 rank organ in the Al Ringling Theatre in Baraboo, Wisconsin.   jch      
(back) Subject: RE: Barton organs From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 00:34:49 -0400   It was probably me that was inaccurate, not Michael. That episode was a long time ago and I very well may not accurately remember all the details. I just told what I remembered in general. Sorry if it was inaccurate.   Andrew   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of jch Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:10 AM To: PipeChat Subject: RE: Barton organs     At 11:41 PM 6/19/03 -0400, you wrote:   >Colin, > >I can answer your question about the Chicago Stadium organ. Michael = Barone >said on Pipedreams that when the stadium closed the organ was put in a = barn >for storage by the Organ Clearing House until a new home could be found, and >sadly the barn burned down and the organ was destroyed.     If Michael Barone made this statement it is unusual for him to be so inaccurate. First, the Organ Clearing House had absolutely no connection with this organ. A local Chicago area club owner and four others provided the funds to remove the organ, when the stadium owner said he would otherwise let the organ down with the building. The organ was moved to Phoenix and stored in a warehouse with another Barton organ that had been installed in the club and a restored Wurlitzer. All three organs were totally destroyed. The console and a set of Tuba Mirabilis pipes from the stadium were not in the warehouse and survived. Phil Maloof purchased = these and the console is playing another Barton organ in his music room and the Tuba Mirabilis was installed in the Roxy's Pizzeria organ in Las Vegas. The Roxy's organ has since been broken up for parts. The Barton Organ Company installed a large number of instruments in the midwest and several of them are still in their original homes. One of the better known instruments is in the Rialto Square Theatre in Joliet, Illinois and is = used regularly and featured annually at a weekend organ fest. Another Barton is the small 9 rank organ in the Al Ringling Theatre in Baraboo, Wisconsin.   jch       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Within the shadow of the everlasting hills . . . From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 01:55:54 EDT     --part1_23.3138fcf9.2c23fbea_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   The curtain is coming down on the Regions 8 & 9 Convention in Salt Lake = City, and I think it's safe to say it's a week those of us who've been here = won't soon forget.   It's been fun putting more names to faces and seeing old friends and = meeting new people. The final registration was probably close to 600, and a substantial number of us are from outside the sponsoring regions.   Perhaps others will weigh in with reviews, but I also think it's safe to = say the final concert this evening was one for the record books. It was the official inauguration of the new Schoenstein organ in the LDS conference = center, which seats over 20,000. I'd guess there were at least 15,000 or 16,000 = there this evening, which is probably a record for an organ concert.   For the first half, Todd Wilson was soloist in the Jongen Symphonie concertante, which was thrilling, to say the least. For the second half = the Mormon Tabernacle Choir moved into place and did a couple very lively anthems by = Mack Wilberg, an excerpt from the Rachmaninoff All-night vigil, and Hallelujah = from Christ on the Mount of Olives, plus the Bernstein Chichester Psalms. The = first encore was a lively Nigerian folk song, and finally the piece without = which it wouldn't have been complete -- the Battle hymn of the republic, with the audience joining in on the final chorus. It was a very moving experience, = and a large contingent from Schoenstein was present to hear the finished = product.   Evenings like this are very rare, and I suspect we will be speaking of it = for a long time to come. The convention committee put together a fabulous program, and the hospitality level was truly exceptional.   People often ask me why I spend vacation time going to organ conventions. Anyone who could have experienced this evening's concert wouldn't have to = ask again.   Everyone connected with the planning and execution of this convention deserves major kudos and thanks!   David Krohne aka Dudelk   --part1_23.3138fcf9.2c23fbea_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">The curtain is coming down on the Regions 8 = &amp; 9 Co=3D nvention in Salt Lake City, and I think it's safe to say it's a week those = o=3D f us who've been here won't soon forget.<BR> <BR> It's been fun putting more names to faces and seeing old friends and = meeting=3D new people. The final registration was probably close to 600, and a = substan=3D tial number of us are from outside the sponsoring regions. <BR> <BR> Perhaps others will weigh in with reviews, but I also think it's safe to = say=3D the final concert this evening was one for the record books. It was the = off=3D icial inauguration of the new Schoenstein organ in the LDS conference = center=3D , which seats over 20,000. I'd guess there were at least 15,000 or 16,000 = th=3D ere this evening, which is probably a record for an organ concert.<BR> <BR> For the first half, Todd Wilson was soloist in the Jongen Symphonie = concerta=3D nte, which was thrilling, to say the least. For the second half the Mormon = T=3D abernacle Choir moved into place and did a couple very lively anthems by = Mac=3D k Wilberg, an excerpt from the Rachmaninoff All-night vigil, and = Hallelujah=3D20=3D from Christ on the Mount of Olives, plus the Bernstein Chichester Psalms. = Th=3D e first encore was a lively Nigerian folk song, and finally the piece = withou=3D t which it wouldn't have been complete -- the Battle hymn of the republic, = w=3D ith the audience joining in on the final chorus. It was a very moving = experi=3D ence, and a large contingent from Schoenstein was present to hear the = finish=3D ed product.<BR> <BR> Evenings like this are very rare, and I suspect we will be speaking of it = fo=3D r a long time&nbsp; to come. The convention committee put together a = fabulou=3D s program, and the hospitality level was truly exceptional. <BR> <BR> People often ask me why I spend vacation time going to organ conventions. = An=3D yone who could have experienced this evening's concert wouldn't have to = ask=3D20=3D again.<BR> <BR> Everyone connected with the planning and execution of this convention = deserv=3D es major kudos and thanks!<BR> <BR> David Krohne<BR> aka Dudelk</FONT></HTML>   --part1_23.3138fcf9.2c23fbea_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Barton Organs From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 02:09:21 -0500   My two cents worth. Is it true that Mr. Barton put theater organs in churches that couldn't pay for their organs in theaters? I heard this = from a friend of Mr. Barton's grandson. You all know how stories get started! lol Gary      
(back) Subject: Re: more stuff From: "Paul Austin" <pianoman1@ntlworld.com> Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:34:15 +0100           > > Back in late 1967 Ed Boadway wrote to me that the following was the = worst > organ design he'd ever seen. Does anyone know if the instrument still > exists? Built by Estey 1924, Op.2243.     You mind find some information here:   www.esteyorganmuseum.org   Paul.