PipeChat Digest #3767 - Monday, June 23, 2003
 
RE: Searching for organ technician southern Texas
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
RE: Was Supply and demand
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Sunday in the Octave of Corpus Christi (x-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Searching for organ technician southern Texas
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Octopods
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Oomiboo....maybe on topic, or maybe not.
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Sunday in the Octave of Corpus Christi (x-posted)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Celtic sounds
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Celtic Oomiboo
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Celtic sounds
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Celtic Oomiboo
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Oomiboo
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Was Supply and demand
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Oomiboo....maybe on topic, or maybe not.
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
This month's TAO
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Searching for organ technician southern Texas From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 07:24:28 -0400   Tom: I don't doubt your sincerity, but surely, the figures you've given = must be incorrect or based on one notorious service call that involved unusual procedures and/or parts. If the church is indeed paying that much for regular maintenance and tuning.............well, I'm flabbergasted. I charge WELL under $1000 CAD (sorry, not willing to give away secrets) to service and tune 4 manual = pipe organs that in one case, includes tuning all 15 reed ranks as well as any other flue pipes requiring tuning attention.   I think $180 per call would be adequate to service the Rogers you've described unless the service technicians require transport to and fro in a Lear jet. AjM         p.s. Does a bill of $1800.00 + motel costs seem rather steep for a single service call?        
(back) Subject: RE: Was Supply and demand From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 07:39:44 -0400   Colin: I may be displaying my ignorance for all to see by asking this, but what on heaven and earth is an "oomiboo" factor? Oohga boohga, Andrew Mead Ontario, Canada     However, there is an "oomiboo" factor at work which cannot simply be explained by analysis.          
(back) Subject: Sunday in the Octave of Corpus Christi (x-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 06:39:53 -0700   St. Matthew's Anglican Catholic Church 2300 Ford Road (corner of Bonita Canyon and Prairie Roads) Newport Beach CA USA   Sung Masses at 9 & 11   Voluntary - Adoro te - Titcomb Processional Hymn - Alleluia! Sing to Jesus - Hyfrydol Introit (11 only) - Cibavit eos - Dr. Willan Setting - Willan/Scottish Chant (9), Mass IX/Scottish Chant (11) Sequence Hymn - Sacris Solemniis - Rossini/Clark Yeah, I know, but the rector won't hold still for Lauda Sion Alleluia - Caro mea - Gregorian, Tone 6 Offertory - Sacerdotes Domini - Rossini/Clark Communion - Quotiescumque - Rossini/Clark Communion Hymn - Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence - Picardy Orison - Day By Day - Sumner Recessional Hymn - Father, We Thank Thee - Rendez a Dieu Voluntary - War March of the Priests - Mendelssohn - thanks for the idea, Deon (grin)   No procession or Benediction, of course ... the rector doesn't approve.   Go figure. Have NO idea why we KEEP the feast.   The rector told me three things this week that STILL have me scratching my head:   (1) if I want him to be my PASTOR, I should resign and sit in the pews.   (2) he HAS discharged his pastoral duty toward me by NOT firing me immediately after I got sick ... "most churches would have, you know."   (3) I don't give him enough NOTICE when I DO get sick. Usually my roommate calls him while we're waiting for the ambulance to arrive.   I'll have to be more careful about that in the future (!).   NOT looking forward to church this morning (grin).   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Searching for organ technician southern Texas From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 11:16:07 EDT   Dear Pipe Chatters: None of us has enough information to judge this situation. One gets the impression that Texas is so vast, with such great = distances between places, that it is impossible to gauge the distance traveled to = tune this little hybrid beast. Are they driving a day in each direction to get there? And if they are, is it because they are the closest available = organ-type people? Are they charging a premium due to some aspect of the organ that makes = it a protracted nightmare to tune? Did they send a bill that showed their = hourly rates and accounts for all of the work they did? How often due they come = to work on the organ? Has the church contacted the firm's business manager? Here in New York City, there are over fourteen million people who describe themselves as organbuilders, serving a population of eight = million. Fees range wildly and freely, as does the type of service. Some are known to = give certain clients exemplary service, while neglecting others. Some people = temper and through-tune the entire organ, make repairs, and file a report, while = others bang on the Oboe for an hour and send a bill. In some cases, truly fine = tuners will work diligently and meticulously for an entire day, charge a = pittance, and the church doesn't pay the bill. Other institutions are accommodating, =   courteous, appreciative, and responsive. I'm sure this range of service = and response is somewhat the same nationwide, as it is with most service = businesses. The church has the right to ask for some clarification. There are no secrets here, and nothing mysterious (they're not asking to be taught the = nuances of tonally finishing orchestral reeds). The church should express their concern, and ask for an explanation, since they have a responsibility to = their parishioners when it comes to spending money.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Octopods From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 10:44:14 -0500   At 09:05 PM 6/21/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Well if you really want one of those things, last I knew Buzard had an >authentic British one in stock to sell! > >I just think a single rank would be a bit limiting   <snip>   Hi, Dennis and Pipechatters,   I think I sense a bit of confusion with my usage of the term "octopod" (in =   that "worst organ spec" thread recently. I wasn't referring to a 'one = rank one manual' organ at all. (would that be an "unopod"?)   Rather, to a style of organ now somewhat rare, which would include a small =   handful (eight, perhaps...? ;-) ) of stops over 2 manuals (with a lone 16' =   ped bourdon, usually) *all at 8' pitch*. Add couplers and occasionally a 4' flute on the Sw. Such organs were much more common in the early part = of the last century in the US, but many still survive, often in little nondescript, out-of-the-way locations. OHS conventions are particularly good at sniffing 'em out, where creative organists never fail to bring amazing music from such unlikely little beasts!   [sidebar: a big "CHEERS" to those currently enjoying this years' OHS convention in PA -- wish I could be there too!]   I bet Bud knows what kinda organ I'm thinking of -- maybe he'll jump in = and help me out when he gets home from church.   Happy Sunday, all --   Tim      
(back) Subject: Oomiboo....maybe on topic, or maybe not. From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:06:23 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Hee hee! It works every time!   The word oomiboo is actually the traditional word in the English language for what we nowadays call, "the X factor".   It is something else...something which cannot be described or explained.   It's a lovely word, and you can always guarantee that someone will ask, "What does oomiboo mean?"   The only answer is, "Sorry, I haven't a clue!"   Interestingly, the word does not appear in the Collin's English Dictionary of which I have a copy, but a friend has the full Oxford set, so perhaps I will find the origin of the word just for the giggle.   If that isn't bad enough, the word "Boffin" was used to describe technical wizards during World War II.   The great and good full Oxford Dictionary states, "Origin unknown".   I remember asking a previous partner about this, who was a squaddie in the army and, at the time, about 18.   "Ah!" He replied, "That's easy!"   Intrigued, I awaited the wisdom of a brilliant marksman who was not the most eloquent person in the world, in spite of the fact that he was a Bisley shooting champion.   "Well", he said, "In the army, if you die, they stuff you in a box".   "So?" I asked   "Clever people are called Brain Boxes", he continued.   "Right", I frowned.   "So a box is a coffin, and a brain-box is a boffin", he smiled with considerable smugness.   I wonder of the Oxford English Dictionary people know that?   Isn't language fun?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Andrew Mead <mead@eagle.ca> wrote: > Colin: I may be displaying my ignorance for all to > see by asking this, but > what on heaven and earth is an "oomiboo" factor?   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Sunday in the Octave of Corpus Christi (x-posted) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:20:11 +0100 (BST)   > Hello,   This "man" is a maniac!   You should tell him three things:-   a) I have not resigned because I do not WANT you as my Pastor.   b) Sickness is part of life, and life came from God; so I am sick because that is God's will.   c) Ask him when he is going to die, so that you can, "make plans for his funeral music".   Better still.....go and kick him in the b....x!   Regards, Colin Mitchell UK   Bud wrote:-   > The rector told me three things this week that STILL > have me scratching > my head: > > (1) if I want him to be my PASTOR, I should resign > and sit in the pews. > > (2) he HAS discharged his pastoral duty toward me by > NOT firing me > immediately after I got sick ... "most churches > would have, you know." > > (3) I don't give him enough NOTICE when I DO get > sick. Usually my > roommate calls him while we're waiting for the > ambulance to arrive. > > I'll have to be more careful about that in the > future (!).     ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Celtic sounds From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:27:37 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I heard some folk music on radio the other day.   One particular item had some "Celtic Horns" rumbling away in the background.....instruments with which I am unfamiliar.   However, they sounded rather like soft pedal reeds such as the Dulzian or Fagot.   I think it would be an excellent name for an organ-stop. Can anyone think of other obscure instruments?   Regards, Colin Mitchell UK >   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Celtic Oomiboo From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:07:24 EDT   "Celtic Horn" does not appear in any of the encyclopaediae of musical instruments that I have, but that does not mean that somebody has not = coined such a term for another type of instrument. Then again, I have seen "authoritative" documentaries that described Tuscan buildings as "Gothic." "Oomiboo" does not appear in the Oxford, unless they have included it amongst their recent additia, which is possible. "Muggle" was just added to the OED, by the way.   SMG  
(back) Subject: Re: Celtic sounds From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:15:49 -0500   Colin Mitchell wrote: > Hello, > I heard some folk music on radio the other day. > One particular item had some "Celtic Horns" rumbling > away in the background.....instruments with which I am > unfamiliar.   I don't know if any of you are interested in Celtic Organ music or not, but if you are, there is a webpage for the lutheran-hymnal.com that has a link to this. (More like a rat's maze!) However, here is the URL of The Celtic Organ:   http://www.onjordansbanks.com/Recordings/Celtic_Organ/celtic_organ.html   There's a total of 5 Celtic Organ CD's available. There's other materials to link to, including (count 'em!) 6 different versions of Lutheran Hymnals with arrangements and MP-3 files.     Faithfully,   G.A. -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS    
(back) Subject: Re: Celtic Oomiboo From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:12:27 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Aha!   Well now....the Celtic Horn does really exist!   Indeed, were you to simply tap in <Cyberscotia.com> on the internet, you would find a Lothian Site with a music reference tab. The actual page on the site is <Cyberscotia.com/ancient-lothian/pages/music-prehistory-horns.html> >   Click on the tab, and you will see a pig! (Sorry Sebastian!)   The pig is the remnants of a Celtic Horn which turned up in some earthwork or other. It is, apparently, related to the Carynx.   The Oomiboo reed family:- Oomlette 2ft Oktavoom 4ft Ooooom 8ft Oomiboom 16ft Oomigawd 32ft   I like the word muggle, but have the OED included the "Golden Snitch" yet?   Don't you just love Harry Potter? The woman who wrote it is worth =A3180m................   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > "Celtic Horn" does not appear in any of the > encyclopaediae of musical > instruments that I have, but that does not mean that > somebody has not coined such > a term for another type of instrument. Then again, I > have seen > "authoritative" documentaries that described Tuscan > buildings as "Gothic." > "Oomiboo" does not appear in the Oxford, unless > they have included it > amongst their recent additia, which is possible. > "Muggle" was just added to the OED, by the way.   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Oomiboo From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:16:04 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I just taped into search with Oomiboo.......it came up with a nickname on a site, so I don't think I was making it up.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     >   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Was Supply and demand From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:37:51 -0400   On 6/22/03 7:39 AM, "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> wrote:   > Oohga boohga,   If you do, you have to clean it up.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Oomiboo....maybe on topic, or maybe not. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 17:42:13 -0400   On 6/22/03 12:06 PM, "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:   > Isn't language fun? > Incurably so, Colin. Keep it up.   Alan    
(back) Subject: This month's TAO From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2003 20:06:46 -0500   I join in congratulating Sebastian in regards to the interesting and favorable article on the Temple Emmanu-El. I'm so proud!   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com