PipeChat Digest #3776 - Monday, June 30, 2003
 
Re: Today at Church
  by "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com>
Compton
  by "alantaylor" <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk>
Erratum Mirabilus
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Today at church
  by "John & Fran Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net>
Re: A question.......
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: Today at Church
  by <Shiresvillebone@aol.com>
Questions about your question
  by <TRACKELECT@cs.com>
Re: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Bach Complete on TV
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Years Ago at Church
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
composer death date (yes, I looked in Henderson)
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
Re: composer death date (yes, I looked in Henderson)
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Cleveland Regional
  by "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Today at Church From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:26:29 -0400   Dear Chatters:   Please keep those entertaining tales of service playing faux pas coming. I know you all must have at least one. I'm about to substitute for a = Missouri Synod Lutheran Church's communion service in a couple of weeks. This will = be my first service playing in more than 30 YEARS. In fact, I hadn't played much at all since 1971 until I started practicing again this past spring.   These are down-to-earth, friendly folks, a small congregation, I don't = think they'll take me into the parking lot and shoot me if there are one or two little glitches in the overall "rhythm" and timing of the service. My big fear is missing pedal notes in the hymns, which I still tend to do under pressure. Anyone have helpful hints?   Emily A.    
(back) Subject: Compton From: "alantaylor" <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:31:01 +0100   Colin is far from being alone in admiring the organs of John Compton. One of the finest is St Luke's Chelsea in London An unusual Compton can be found at St Mary le Boltons.   Alan London     :Derby Cathedral and it's Compton From: "Colin Mitchell" I hope that I am not alone in actually admiring the organs of John Compton, but I would be the first to acknowledge that they are often a "smoke and mirrors" approach to organ design, using considerable extension throughout.      
(back) Subject: Erratum Mirabilus From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:13:38 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Seeing Leora Holcomb's posting about the error of kicking open a general crescendo pedal, reminded me of the very first time I accompanied at York Minster here in the UK.   Rather excited at the prospect, someone asked me if I would play the Norman Cocker "Tuba Tune" as a postlude.   It didn't need much of an excuse, because the York Tuba Mirabilus is quite a party-horn on 25" of wind mounted "en chamade"!   The choir processed out to suitably ethereal waftings with 32ft metal purring beneath it all, and whilst I improvised, I started to draw the registration for the Cocker "T.T." which went something like Full Swell (box closed) coupled to Gt.5 (out of 8), but as I always find the final chords quite a stretch for the hands which can lead to mistakes , I decided that I would use Solo to Choir for the solo reed, and thumb down as required. (My hands are small but perfectly formed.....)   UNFORTUNATELY, as I improvised, I had been using the Choir organ coupled through to the Great and, in a dizzy moment, left the darned coupler drawn as I started the Cocker "Tuba Tune".   Thus, the Cocker Tuba Tune started with the biggest bang since time began, as the opening chord almost blew people out of the West Door!!   I was as surprised as anyone to find that drawing the Solo-Choir and Choir-Great, also acted as Solo-Great!   Still....I can remember the echo from that opening chord to this day!   At the time, I could just imagine Norman Cocker leaning over my shoulder and saying, "Take more water with it next time ma boy", and HE was the undisputed expert.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     leora holcomb <leh637@yahoo.com> wrote: > My final Sunday Morning at my former church in May > was rather unusual. Instead of the swell pedal, my > foot slipped to the crescendo pedal as I was > frantically trying to change stops   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:14:13 -0500   This note is mainly for those members of the list that are on AOL. I gather that with AOL email there is an option to reject email from certain addresses. When that happens the rejected mail does not go back to the person whose address is being rejected but instead it shows up in the Bounced Mail for the list which I get.   The way it is I get enough bounced mail from the list due to people dropping email accounts and not removing their address from the list first or from accounts that are over quota and therefore bounce the mail. These reject notices from AOL just add to that traffic.   If you are rejecting mail from another list member PLEASE remove that reject action. If you don't and it keeps up I WILL remove you from the list as I really don't need to deal with your not wanting to read something from another member. If you don't want to read something that someone else on the list has posted use the DELETE key! And who knows, just maybe something that person has written might just be of help to you.   If by the end of this week I am still getting rejects from certain AOL addresses I will remove your address if no ifs, ands, or buts.   Sorry for the rant but this morning I woke up to 5 bounced mails "digests", some of them filled with rejections from certain AOL addresses and I don't need or want to deal with all that extra traffic. If you are a member of this list I EXPECT that you accept all mail from the list and if there is something or someone that you don't want to bother with you just DELETE it.   End of rant! - Happy PipeChatting   David -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Today at church From: "John & Fran Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:56:07 -0700   Thanks Shirley. Our pastor and four of our worship staff went down to San Diego to a pre-conference event of the ALCM convention which is here this week. It was a great eight hour day with Carl Schalk, et al. I wish I = could have attended the whole week. Neither the music director nor I are Lutherans, so we really got a lot out of it. The director has been at the church for 13 years and they all just love him. In spite of a Baptist background he has fit in so well. We received lots of materials and resources at the workshop. I am anxious to go through it all. I noticed = the Minister's Desk Edition was one listed. Fran   > Fran - Get a hold of the Minister's Desk Edition of the LBW. There are lots of > "aha's" in that book. > > --Shirley, student at a Lutheran seminary > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: A question....... From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:26:14 -0500   Call on your nearby organbuilder who is interested in historic organs. Roy Redman   fuma@cnjnet.com wrote:   > Hello, All; > > While it's one of the cutest things you'll ever see, it MUST be > changed. I'm talking about the organ situation at my Sunday job. > A lot of organists snubbed this situation because of it, but I > loved the congregation, they offered me MORE money to come, and there > just seem to be wonderful possibilities. In 1951 or so, they tore out > the pipe organ there and kept the non-speaking facade "because it was > pretty". By the time I saw it in 2001, they had the facade back in > place with a Hammond C-3 sticking out of the place where the console > used to be....surrounded by the beautiful facade. WELL!! While tragic, > it was also cute and funny as HELL, I thought at the time. > But I can NOT find markings to tell me WHAT the former pipe organ > was, so that I can rebuild the sucker, and restore this old instrument. > So TWO questions. WHERE could I find out what the organ was? (It > looks like M.P. Moller or Estey facade to me). And the second question > is: CAN I make the non-speaking facade SPEAKING? > This one has me stumped. > William Webber, C.A.G.O. > Somerville, NJ > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Today at Church From: <Shiresvillebone@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 09:34:11 EDT     --part1_1f1.c325a7f.2c319653_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hey everyone,   My church also houses a small Estonian Congregation, who holds services = once a month. When I became the steady organist for my church, I got a phone = call asking me to play for the Estonian services, which I gladly accepted, not realizing that the entire service would be in Estonian! The first few = services were rather "interesting" to get through with the liturgy, and it took = quite a while for me to get the hang of it, and I have now graduated to the point where the pastor no longer has to look at me and nod for each liturgical = entrance :)   Sincerely, JP Meyer   --part1_1f1.c325a7f.2c319653_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" = FACE=3D3D"Geneva" F=3D AMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" SIZE=3D3D"2">Hey everyone,<BR> <BR> My church also houses a small Estonian Congregation, who holds services = once=3D a month.&nbsp; When I became the steady organist for my church, I got a = ph=3D one call asking me to play for the Estonian services, which I gladly = accepte=3D d, not realizing that the entire service would be in Estonian!&nbsp; The = fi=3D rst few services were rather "interesting" to get through with the = liturgy,=3D20=3D and it took quite a while for me to get the hang of it, and I have now = gradu=3D ated to the point where the pastor no longer has to look at me and nod for = e=3D ach liturgical entrance :)<BR> <BR> Sincerely,<BR> JP Meyer</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" FACE=3D3D"Geneva" = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF"=3D20=3D SIZE=3D3D"2"></FONT></HTML>   --part1_1f1.c325a7f.2c319653_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Questions about your question From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:56:36 EDT     --part1_14d.20f9f50f.2c31a9a4_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/30/2003 5:04:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes: > > Subject: A question....... > From: <fuma@cnjnet.com> > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:04:42 -0400 > > Hello, All; > > While it's one of the cutest things you'll ever see, it MUST be > changed. I'm talking about the organ situation at my Sunday job. > A lot of organists snubbed this situation because of it, but I > loved the congregation, they offered me MORE money to come, and there > just seem to be wonderful possibilities. In 1951 or so, they tore out > the pipe organ there and kept the non-speaking facade "because it was > pretty". By the time I saw it in 2001, they had the facade back in > place with a Hammond C-3 sticking out of the place where the console > used to be....surrounded by the beautiful facade. WELL!! While tragic, =   > it was also cute and funny as HELL, I thought at the time. > But I can NOT find markings to tell me WHAT the former pipe organ =   > was, so that I can rebuild the sucker, and restore this old instrument. > So TWO questions. WHERE could I find out what the organ was? (It > looks like M.P. Moller or Estey facade to me). And the second question > is: CAN I make the non-speaking facade SPEAKING? > This one has me stumped. > William Webber, C.A.G.O. > Somerville, NJ > > >   To understand better what you are dealing with I'd like to ask you a few questions. Just how much is left of the old organ? When they tore it out = did they just take out the pipes and plop speakers down on the windchests? This was = a common practice. If that is the case it will be much easier to identify = and restore the organ. To determine if the facade pipes are "speakers" stick a = finger in each mouth. If they are open all the way down to the toe they are = strictly dummies and will never speak. If you feel a divider parallel to the lower = lip that is the languid, it creates the flue and they will speak. It is common =   for some pipes in a facade to be dummies and others to be speakers. = Another thing to look at is the back of the pipes. Are there tuners? Look around = the toes. Are there tubes or holes where tubes used to be that once led to a = windchest? One can check the opus lists of different builders assuming that the organ = is in it's original location. Or if you can find an opus number, that's a = start too. Where exactly is it? If it is in NJ I could take a look at it. I have =   worked on thousands of organs and know the practices of the many builders = that have worked in this area pretty well. Organ detective work. I love it.   All the best:   Alan B   --part1_14d.20f9f50f.2c31a9a4_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><BODY BGCOLOR=3D3D"#3dffff"><FONT = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated = 6/30/2003=3D 5:04:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes: <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> Subject: A question.......<BR> From: &lt;fuma@cnjnet.com&gt;<BR> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 00:04:42 -0400<BR> <BR> Hello, All;<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; While it's one of the cutest things you'll ever = see=3D , it MUST be <BR> changed.&nbsp; I'm talking about the organ situation at my Sunday = job.&nbsp;=3D <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A lot of organists snubbed this situation = bec=3D ause of it, but I <BR> loved the congregation, they offered me MORE money to come, and there <BR> just seem to be wonderful possibilities.&nbsp; In 1951 or so, they tore = out=3D20=3D <BR> the pipe organ there and kept the non-speaking facade "because it was <BR> pretty".&nbsp; By the time I saw it in 2001, they had the facade back in = <BR=3D > place with a Hammond C-3 sticking out of the place where the console <BR> used to be....surrounded by the beautiful facade.&nbsp; WELL!!&nbsp; While = t=3D ragic, <BR> it was also cute and funny as HELL, I thought at the time.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; But I can NOT find markings to tell = me=3D20=3D WHAT the former pipe organ <BR> was, so that I can rebuild the sucker, and restore this old instrument. = <BR> So TWO questions.&nbsp; WHERE could I find out what the organ = was?&nbsp;&nbs=3D p; (It <BR> looks like M.P. Moller or Estey facade to me).&nbsp; And the second = question=3D <BR> is:&nbsp; CAN I make the non-speaking facade SPEAKING?<BR> This one has me stumped.<BR> William Webber, C.A.G.O.<BR> Somerville, NJ<BR> <BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> To understand better what you are dealing with I'd like to ask you a few = que=3D stions. Just how much is left of the old organ? When they tore it out did = th=3D ey just take out the pipes and plop speakers down on the windchests? This = wa=3D s a common practice. If that is the case it will be much easier to = identify=3D20=3D and restore the organ. To determine if the facade pipes are "speakers" = stick=3D a finger in each mouth. If they are open all the way down to the toe they = a=3D re strictly dummies and will never speak. If you feel a divider parallel = to=3D20=3D the lower lip that is the languid, it creates the flue and they will = speak.=3D20=3D It is common for some pipes in a facade to be dummies and others to be = speak=3D ers. Another thing to look at is the back of the pipes. Are there tuners? = Lo=3D ok around the toes. Are there tubes or holes where tubes used to be that = onc=3D e led to a windchest? One can check the opus lists of different builders = ass=3D uming that the organ is in it's original location. Or if you can find an = opu=3D s number, that's a start too. Where exactly is it? If it is in NJ I could = ta=3D ke a look at it. I have worked on thousands of organs and know the = practices=3D of the many builders that have worked in this area pretty well. Organ = detec=3D tive work. I love it.<BR> <BR> All the best:<BR> <BR> Alan B</FONT></HTML>   --part1_14d.20f9f50f.2c31a9a4_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:16:38 EDT     --part1_17b.1c9de546.2c31bc66_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/30/03 8:16:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, admin@pipechat.org writes:     > If by the end of this week I am still getting rejects from certain > AOL addresses I will remove your address if no ifs, ands, or buts. >   Many times on AOL/CompuServe we are unaware of some of these settings. it =   would be very helpful if you would let us know specifically who we are. = AOL/CS does a surprising amount of stuff behind our backs.     Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyurl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll = only take a minute!)     --part1_17b.1c9de546.2c31bc66_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 6/30/0=3D 3 8:16:25 AM Eastern Daylight Time, admin@pipechat.org writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">If by the end of this = week=3D20=3D I am still getting rejects from certain=3D20 <BR>AOL addresses I will remove your address if no ifs, ands, or buts. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>Many times on AOL/CompuServe we are unaware of some of these settings. = &=3D nbsp;it would be very helpful if you would let us know specifically who we = a=3D re. &nbsp;&nbsp;AOL/CS does a surprising amount of stuff behind our backs. <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyu=3D rl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll only take a minute!) <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_17b.1c9de546.2c31bc66_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Bach Complete on TV From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:17:43 +0100   The BBC are showing what is advertised as a ' complete performance of = Bach's 50 or so organ works (!?) in a series spread out over several years'. = First installment tonight (Monday) on BBC2 at 11.20 pm. BWV 565 and 548.   Bruce Miles.   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html    
(back) Subject: Years Ago at Church From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:24:39 -0400   Well, I do have a funny mishap tale, which happened when I was a student, playing in a small country church in New Jersey. The choir was full of fun but decidedly amateur, meaning completely non-readers. We spent quite a = bit of time on Sunday morning just getting the hymns sorted out. It was Palm Sunday, and I finished rehearsal working on the harmony of "Ride on, ride = on in majesty." The procession was ready to happen, the choir at the ready at the west end, and Malcolm looked up at the music desk, and dutifully = played an introduction and the hymn Ride On. It was only through the smirks of = the choir that I knew something was wrong, and eventually, a note from the comedian tenor explained that the first hymn was supposed to "All Glory = laud and honor." I had absent mindedly played what I had last done, on the = music rack, and everyone made the transition easily, as the two hymns were on facing pages. The place being informal, I thought it best to say something before the hymn before the sermon to sort things out, so I announced, to much laughter, that I knew that this was now the perfect place for us to sing "All Glory laud and honor," at which time the ministress shouted, "Oh no, we MUST sing Ride On, because my whole sermon is based on that text." = So off we went again with Ride On, and in the first stanza or so, a note was held up for me to see, from the Tenor wag, saying: "Malcolm, hurry this = up, will you. I am getting saddle sore!"   I was all the talk at the coffee hour!   Cheers,   Malcolm     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emily Adams" <eadams@cinci.rr.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:26 AM Subject: Re: Today at Church     > Dear Chatters: > > Please keep those entertaining tales of service playing faux pas coming. = I > know you all must have at least one. I'm about to substitute for a Missouri > Synod Lutheran Church's communion service in a couple of weeks. This = will be > my first service playing in more than 30 YEARS. In fact, I hadn't played > much at all since 1971 until I started practicing again this past = spring. > > These are down-to-earth, friendly folks, a small congregation, I don't think > they'll take me into the parking lot and shoot me if there are one or = two > little glitches in the overall "rhythm" and timing of the service. My = big > fear is missing pedal notes in the hymns, which I still tend to do under > pressure. Anyone have helpful hints? > > Emily A. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: composer death date (yes, I looked in Henderson) From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:44:21 -0700   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004A_01C33EF4.909C2380 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Folks,   I need some help here...   I'm trying to verify the birth/death date for Abbe Joseph Joubert... =3D someone tried to tell me the guy was STILL alive (which is possible, but = =3D unlikely... he'd be well over a HUNDRED by now.... prolly closer to =3D 120!!!)   Please, if you have this information, give me specifics (i.e. what is =3D your source)   TIA,   Jonathan     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.493 / Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03 ------=3D_NextPart_000_004A_01C33EF4.909C2380 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Folks,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I need some help here...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I'm trying to verify the birth/death = =3D date for Abbe=3D20 Joseph Joubert...&nbsp; someone tried to tell me the guy was STILL alive = =3D (which=3D20 is possible, but unlikely... he'd be well over a HUNDRED by now.... =3D prolly=3D20 closer to 120!!!)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Please, if you have this information, = =3D give me=3D20 specifics (i.e. what is your source)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>TIA,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Jonathan</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><BR>---<BR>Outgoing mail is certified = =3D Virus=3D20 Free.<BR>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (<A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.grisoft.com">http://www.grisoft.com</A>).<BR>Version: = =3D 6.0.493 /=3D20 Virus Database: 292 - Release Date: 6/25/03</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_004A_01C33EF4.909C2380--    
(back) Subject: Re: composer death date (yes, I looked in Henderson) From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 14:11:44 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --MS_Mac_OE_3139827104_56677776_MIME_Part Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit   The AGO publication Organist's Book of Days gives his dates as 1877 - = 1963. Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   I'm trying to verify the birth/death date for Abbe Joseph Joubert... someone tried to tell me the guy was STILL alive (which is possible, but unlikely... he'd be well over a HUNDRED by now.... prolly closer to = 120!!!) Please, if you have this information, give me specifics (i.e. what is your source)     --MS_Mac_OE_3139827104_56677776_MIME_Part Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: composer death date (yes, I looked in Henderson)</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> The AGO publication <I>Organist's Book of Days</I> gives his dates as 1877 = =3D - 1963. &nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Karl E. Moyer<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Lancaster PA<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">I'm trying to verify the = birth/death date=3D for Abbe Joseph Joubert... &nbsp;someone tried to tell me the guy was = STILL=3D alive (which is possible, but unlikely... he'd be well over a HUNDRED by = no=3D w.... prolly closer to 120!!!)<BR> </FONT></FONT> <BR> <FONT SIZE=3D3D"2"><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">Please, if you have this = information, giv=3D e me specifics (i.e. what is your source)</FONT></FONT><BR> </BLOCKQUOTE> </BODY> </HTML>     --MS_Mac_OE_3139827104_56677776_MIME_Part--    
(back) Subject: Cleveland Regional From: "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 13:36:24 -0500 (CDT)   Hi all. I was in Cleveland and have a few comments.   With maybe an exception or two, the performances were of a very high caliber. My "disappointments" were: - not much use of Holtkamp Sr. instruments save St. Paul's and that concert didn't demonstrate variety even though the music was interesting. - a well played recital at Fairmount Pres except there was too much organ for the space and the recitalist felt compelled to use it all! - a mismatch of performer/music/organ at the Art Museum...it would have made more sense on the Fisk in Oberlin. - the program on the Flentrop in Oberlin was executed well, but an opportunity was missed to hear more of the music from the vast repertoire which that instrument was designed to play. Like the Fisk, it is a period instrument intended to give us an idea of the sounds from a certain style or period of organ building...they are, after all, in an academic setting. - being on a bus at 8 am and getting back to the hotel at 10 pm or later does not help me enjoy a convention...this seems to be a trend at organist conventions. Plus the hosts always say "hope you can take in our wonderful city"...when?!?!