PipeChat Digest #3778 - Monday, June 30, 2003
 
VERY LONG:  SLC AGO Convention, chapter 2
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Independence Day concert
  by <DudelK@aol.com>
Live Chat on IRC TONIGHT
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
Re: AGO Cleveland Regional
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Bach Complete on TV
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Cleveland, Holtkamps, Regional AGO convention
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Re: Cleveland, Holtkamps, Regional AGO convention
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Cleveland, Holtkamps, Regional AGO convention
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
More organ info...and thanks.....
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(back) Subject: VERY LONG: SLC AGO Convention, chapter 2 From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:04:50 -0500   Chapter 2 - Monday, June 16   Cynthia trekked off to breakfast while I meandered around the exhibit hall, looking at organs and music. She came back to tell me she had breakfast with Joyce Jones, and I declared my extreme envy over her good fortune.   Opening ceremonies were held at the LDS Assembly Hall (Sipe III/65, 1983), a pretty building made from materials left over from the construction of the Temple. Gathering music was provided by the Raijin Taiko Drum Group of the Japanese Church of Christ, a group that would have made any drumline in a marching band green with envy. We took front row center balcony seats this time as Susan Matthews held forth on the organ accompanied by one of those everlasting blasted brass ensembles. She began with the prelude from Hillert's Three Pieces, and ended with "Praise the Lord with drums and cymbals" by Karg-Elert. The singing was wonderful, of course.   Jerold Ottley, retired music director of the Salt Lake Mormon Tabernacle Choir, provided an upbeat and agreeable keynote address extolling the virtues of traditionalism. His speech was followed by liturgical dancing to Bach's Wachet Auf - go figure. Then the Salt Lake International Children's Choir, directed by Kathy Sorensen, performed for us. These children, decked in international costumes, sang, danced and played instruments for us.   We met Donald Ulm, a delightful man from the midwest (is it Minnesota? his name did not appear on the roster, but it was familiar to me, probably from TAO), who gave us some additional information about Eric Gundersen. Eric has only played organ for four years, and piano for two prior to that. He hails from Norway, and is a student at of James Drake at Utah State University. He holds great potential, so watch for him.   I believe this was the day we ran into Paul Tepler (hope I got his name right), a list member and super person, just outside the Tabernacle. The noon Tabernacle recitalist was Bonnie Goodliffe, one of the Temple Square organists. After bearing seven children she still finds time to practice and perform. The program:   Chaconne in G minor - Louis Couperin Prelude in G major, BWV 541 - Bach Three Preludes founded on Welsh hymn-tunes: Rhosymedre and Hyfrydol - Vaughan Williams Come, come, ye saints An old melody: on Royal Oak - Hirten Toccata - Goemanne   We sat in the balcony, second row center. Goodliffe played more crisply and cleanly than Drake, but the Bach was still lush in that acoustic. The Rhosymedre was very gentle and lovely, and I was happy to see someone include the Hyfrydol in a program. The Goemanne was well played, but has always sounded a bit awkward in spots to me. Goodliffe opened up to an almost full organ at the end - a nice performance.   Our national president Fred Swann sat in the row ahead of us, and I was able to study his hair. Because of his ever perfect coif I always wondered if it was real, and am now convinced it is (although only his hairdresser knows for sure). Anyway, every hair was in place and he looked like he was enjoying himself.   Lunch was partaken at the Lion House, a restaurant on Temple Square serving up some of the best cafeteria food I've experienced. The homemade breads are my kryptonite. Afterward we met David Krohne and Ken Sybesma at the Conference Center, and took pictures of each other with the organ gracing the background.   John Longhurst presided at the afternoon Conference Center recital. His program:   Carillon - Mathias Allabreve in D major, BWV 589 - Bach Prelude (from Pange lingua) - Kodaly Come, come, ye saints An old melody: The ash grove - arr. Longhurst Toccata in B minor (from Dix pieces) - Gigout   We were probably less than twelve rows from the organ console. His approach to this organ was conservative - I am convinced he wanted to show us just how quietly and subdued the organ could play. He only opened it up somewhat on the second verse of the hymn and during the Gigout. I believe all the expression pedals remained in the closed position for at least the first half of the Mathias (perhaps that's as it should be - the new kitten Molly, the terror of the household, attacked me and prevented my going downstairs to check the music). The warm reverberant tones of the Tabernacle organ, so lovely and sometimes distracting, were missing here. What was so cool was watching the background walls and pipes change colors as the recital progressed. I think I liked the Kodaly, but it may have been the yellow background turning to gold and orange. I gazed full into the golden eye over the organ, so I was mesmerized anyway.   I attended a workshop on singing technique, where the instructor fondled several participants and showed us what our skull was and where it should float in order to get a better sound.   We had dinner at historic Lamb's Restaurant, which served hard liquor and great Alaskan salmon flown in. Then we caught the end of the Madeleine's vesper service (after buying a CD of the choir and some postcards of the cathedral), at which the choir had swollen to perhaps 25-30 adults and children - again, one of the best vesper services I can remember.   John Weaver performed at the Cathedral of the Madeleine following vespers. Program was as follows:   Fanfara para orgao - Franceschini Fantasy in F Minor, K. 594 - Mozart Organ Concerto in B-flat major, op. 4, no. 6 - Handel Passacaglia in C minor, BWV 582 - Bach Prelude and Toccata on Two Southern Hymns: Beach Spring and Amazing Grace - John Weaver Variations on Madrid - Weaver Carillon (premiered) - Weaver Final in B-flat major - Franck   Because we were late to vespers, we managed to squeeze a seat in the next to last row. This was the first time I had heard Weaver live - I chose Joyce Jones at Heavenly Rest at the 1996 NYC AGO Centennial over Madison Avenue, and was told I missed a fine program then (but I enjoyed every minute of where I was). His playing is very powerful and self-assured; his ability and knowledge oozes from him, and he made the walls ring. The Franceschini was short and festive. The Mozart was crisp; the fugal section was surprisingly stately so that every note and trill came through perfectly. The Handel was done on simple flute stops, and made me want to dust off my copy.   I got the impression that Weaver, who plays everything by memory, dropped a note once or twice just to make the rest of us feel better. My only disappointment was the faux pas in the most difficult restatement of the passacaglia theme containing all the triplets (the left hand just sort of disappeared there) - I really wanted him to purr through that. He brought out the big guns for the ending.   I know many love his compositions, but I just haven't warmed to them yet. I wondered just how many Northerners really know about Southern hymns? Anyway, the commissioned "Carillon" was to my mind the best of his compositions. The Franck was superb, played at a fantastically fast pace as if Weaver was on his way to a fire. I was glad for the opportunity to hear him and on such a neat instrument. I never met him or spoke to him because he looks like such a forbidding person, definitely out of my amateur league. However, he apparently is a fantastic instructor - one of his students won the Region 9 organ competition and blew us all away. More of that later.     Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:52:23 EDT     --part1_12f.2d36b7b4.2c322737_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   add me to the let me know list if AOL is doing its thing.   dale in florida   --part1_12f.2d36b7b4.2c322737_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">add me to the let me know list if AOL is doing = its t=3D hing.<BR> <BR> dale in florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_12f.2d36b7b4.2c322737_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Independence Day concert From: <DudelK@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:57:45 EDT     --part1_a.329ff6db.2c322879_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Peter Conte of Wanamaker and St. Clement's fame is playing the annual Independence Day concert at Washington Cathedral (aka the Bigge Toppe) on = Friday at 11 a.m. It seems more than safe to speculate that he will come up with = some marvelous sounds and interesting programming. I've heard this annual event = tends to draw a big crowd, so it might be good to arrive a bit early. Haven't = seen a program, but I'm sure it will be interesting and fun.   If I make it, I'll be the old codger wandering the transepts and muttering =   incoherently about pipe organs and sushi and humming Come, Come Ye Saints = in several keys simultaneously in the spirit of Charles Ives. For those who = can't live by music alone, there are some great cafes within a block or two of = the Bigge Toppe, which should be open on Friday.   The fireworks are usually pretty spectacular, and although I've never gone = up there for them (the view from the roof of my building isn't bad), the view =   from the Bishop's Garden at the cathedral should be pretty good, if a bit distant (you have to supply your own sound effects).   Happy Fourth to all, David/Dudel in DC   --part1_a.329ff6db.2c322879_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Peter Conte of Wanamaker and St. Clement's fame = is pla=3D ying the annual Independence Day concert at Washington Cathedral (aka the = Bi=3D gge Toppe) on Friday at 11 a.m. It seems more than safe to speculate that = he=3D will come up with some marvelous sounds and interesting programming. I've = h=3D eard this annual event tends to draw a big crowd, so it might be good to = arr=3D ive a bit early. Haven't seen a program, but I'm sure it will be = interesting=3D and fun.<BR> <BR> If I make it, I'll be the old codger wandering the transepts and muttering = i=3D ncoherently about pipe organs and sushi and humming Come, Come Ye Saints = in=3D20=3D several keys simultaneously in the spirit of Charles Ives. For those who = can=3D 't live by music alone, there are some great cafes within a block or two = of=3D20=3D the Bigge Toppe, which should be open on Friday. <BR> <BR> The fireworks are usually pretty spectacular, and although I've never gone = u=3D p there for them (the view from the roof of my building isn't bad), the = view=3D from the Bishop's Garden at the cathedral should be pretty good, if a bit = d=3D istant (you have to supply your own sound effects). <BR> <BR> Happy Fourth to all,<BR> David/Dudel in DC</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a.329ff6db.2c322879_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Live Chat on IRC TONIGHT From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:01:01 -0700   Commences at 9 p.m. US Eastern Time.   Directions how to get there:   http://www.pipechat.org/irc.html   HOPE TO SEE SOME NEW FACES! (grin)   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:58:17 EDT     --part1_1d4.d06eabc.2c322899_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi David,   I agree with Bruce. If any of us are errant in this respect, please let us =   know. Sometimes, these blockings are weeks, months, even years old and = probably forgotten (by us).   AOL has just erased all my blockings for no explainable reason, so I hope = I am not one of those you refer to. Yet...   Musically, Stan Krider   In a message dated 06/30/2003 2:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes:   > > Subject: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ > From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> > Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:14:13 -0500 > > This note is mainly for those members of the list that are on AOL. I > gather that with AOL email there is an option to reject email from > certain addresses. When that happens the rejected mail does not go > back to the person whose address is being rejected but instead it > shows up in the Bounced Mail for the list which I get. > > The way it is I get enough bounced mail from the list due to people > dropping email accounts and not removing their address from the list > first or from accounts that are over quota and therefore bounce the > mail. These reject notices from AOL just add to that traffic. > > If you are rejecting mail from another list member PLEASE remove that > reject action. If you don't and it keeps up I WILL remove you from > the list as I really don't need to deal with your not wanting to read > something from another member. If you don't want to read something > that someone else on the list has posted use the DELETE key! And who > knows, just maybe something that person has written might just be of > help to you. > > If by the end of this week I am still getting rejects from certain > AOL addresses I will remove your address if no ifs, ands, or buts. > > Sorry for the rant but this morning I woke up to 5 bounced mails > "digests", some of them filled with rejections from certain AOL > addresses and I don't need or want to deal with all that extra > traffic. If you are a member of this list I EXPECT that you accept > all mail from the list and if there is something or someone that you > don't want to bother with you just DELETE it. > > End of rant! - Happy PipeChatting > > David >     --part1_1d4.d06eabc.2c322899_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi David,<BR> <BR> I agree with Bruce. If any of us are errant in this respect, please let us = k=3D now. Sometimes, these blockings are weeks, months, even years old and = probab=3D ly forgotten (by us).<BR> <BR> AOL has just erased all my blockings for no explainable reason, so I hope = I=3D20=3D am not one of those you refer to. Yet...<BR> <BR> Musically,<BR> Stan Krider<BR> <BR> In a message dated 06/30/2003 2:58:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = pipechat@pip=3D echat.org writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"><BR> Subject: ATTENTION AOL MEMBERS - READ<BR> From: "Administrator" &lt;admin@pipechat.org&gt;<BR> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 07:14:13 -0500<BR> <BR> This note is mainly for those members of the list that are on AOL.&nbsp; I = <=3D BR> gather that with AOL email there is an option to reject email from <BR> certain addresses.&nbsp; When that happens the rejected mail does not go = <BR=3D > back to the person whose address is being rejected but instead it <BR> shows up in the Bounced Mail for the list which I get.<BR> <BR> The way it is&nbsp; I get enough bounced mail from the list due to people = <B=3D R> dropping email accounts and not removing their address from the list <BR> first or from accounts that are over quota and therefore bounce the <BR> mail.&nbsp; These reject notices from AOL just add to that traffic.<BR> <BR> If you are rejecting mail from another list member PLEASE remove that <BR> reject action.&nbsp; If you don't and it keeps up I WILL remove you from = <BR=3D > the list as I really don't need to deal with your not wanting to read <BR> something from another member.&nbsp; If you don't want to read something = <BR=3D > that someone else on the list has posted use the DELETE key!&nbsp; And who = <=3D BR> knows, just maybe something that person has written might just be of <BR> help to you.<BR> <BR> If by the end of this week I am still getting rejects from certain <BR> AOL addresses I will remove your address if no ifs, ands, or buts.<BR> <BR> Sorry for the rant but this morning I woke up to 5 bounced mails <BR> "digests", some of them filled with rejections from certain AOL <BR> addresses and I don't need or want to deal with all that extra <BR> traffic.&nbsp; If you are a member of this list I EXPECT that you accept = <BR=3D > all mail from the list and if there is something or someone that you <BR> don't want to bother with you just DELETE it.<BR> <BR> End of rant! - Happy PipeChatting<BR> <BR> David<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1d4.d06eabc.2c322899_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: AGO Cleveland Regional From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:59:22 EDT     --part1_72.2f6b3e9c.2c3228da_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/30/2003 12:44:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time, cromornecipher@hotmail.com writes: > > > I'm sorry to hear that you were disappointed with the Region V = convention. > Was there anything in particular that you were unhappy about?   crammed days, some less than stellar Holtkamps, and not much time for exhibits and schmoozing-----cant speak for the Oberlin day as i did not go = down there. made a rather irrational judgment that my ears longing for 1930 = AEolian organs would not be met---   but it was well done overall and the committee should be pleased---please pass it along.   just jaded as I said.   dale in Florida   Y'all go on a vacation you probably need one!     --part1_72.2f6b3e9c.2c3228da_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 6/30/2003 12:44:32 AM Eastern = Day=3D light Time, cromornecipher@hotmail.com writes:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> <BR> I'm sorry to hear that you were disappointed with the Region V = convention.&n=3D bsp; <BR> Was there anything in particular that you were unhappy = about?</BLOCKQUOTE></=3D FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2 F=3D AMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> <BR> crammed days, some less than stellar Holtkamps, and not much time for = exhibi=3D ts and schmoozing-----cant speak for the Oberlin day as i did not go down = th=3D ere. made a rather irrational judgment that my ears longing for 1930 = AEolian=3D organs would not be met---<BR> <BR> but it was well done overall and the committee should be pleased---please = pa=3D ss it along.<BR> <BR> just jaded as I said.<BR> <BR> dale in Florida<BR> <BR> Y'all go on a vacation you probably need one!</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_72.2f6b3e9c.2c3228da_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Complete on TV From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 01:32:26 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   What a delight to see the organ on UK Television once more. I think the last time was the "Howard Goodall's Organ Works", which took a light-hearted look at the diverse organ world with considerable panache.   Tonight's programme, broadcast on the BBC (BBC 2)is in the manner of a complete series of Bach organ works which will be screened over a considerable period. They are very much in the style of the recently televised "48 Preludes and Fugues" played on piano, but of course, the shots of the organs and the church interiors will make them equally delightful to scholars of church architecture.   To watch John Scott-Whiteley play from memory is to watch a supreme technician as well as a highly gifted musician. His playing style is sooooo effortless....not a wasted gesture or movement; but then, he WAS a pupil of Germani. John is best known for his interpretation of French Romantic music, at which he excels, but with this series (judging by just the one programme), his playing of Bach's masterpieces has reached a new level of understanding.   One moment caught my eye, and knowing John well, I detected a tiny gesture which I think told its own story! In the E minor "wedge" Fugue, he gives the slightest hint of a smile whilst he plays the organ in dark-glasses!   It was a tiny smile which came after one of those nasties.....one of the really horrible little moments when the counterpoint dictates the finger movements awkwardly. I just knew that it was a tiny fragment which had given a few problems in practise.   The camera work was, shall we say, interesting?   I don't mind a mirror being set upon the top keyboard at Naumberg (and what a fabulous organ THAT restored Hilderbrant is), but when the technical wizards use split screen, merge screen, mirror imaging and strange pan controls; the effect can be disconcerting to say the least. I have never seen an organist with one hand and ten fingers, let alone one who kisses his own image in the mirror!   In fact, although two heads may be better than one in certain circumstances, the presence of two John Scott-Whiteley heads at the same organ was a bit visually schizophrenic.   On the credit side, the shots inside the organ, of trackers at work, bellows moving and the gleaming restored pipework were pure magic.   However, there was one enormous continuity gaff, which I must write and tell John about!!!!!!   At Naumberg, he is seen to approach the organ loft in dark-glasses and wearing a coat, which he removes and throws casually at the side of the console. Unfortunately, he appears to have left his expensive looking coat in Naumberg, and I feel that he should know about this. John is probably wandering around York looking for it!!   Credit where credit is due, this is a series not to be missed if you can find a means of getting it.   Well done the good old 'beeb' and John Scott-Whiteley; a very charming, friendly and approachable virtuoso if ever there was one.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Cleveland, Holtkamps, Regional AGO convention From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 17:40:45 -0700   Well, first of all, by not going down to Oberlin, one would miss a VERY significant ROMANTIC organ in the great French tradition: the Fisk in Finney Chapel.   Cleveland is Holtkamp Territory; St. Paul's in the Heights is the family church, or was. I wouldn't go to Cleveland and expect NOT to hear Holtkamps (grin).   Was the Holtkamp in the RC cathedral used? It's QUITE different ...   I haven't heard the Museum organ in its "new" home, but I understand the ROOM is NOT particularly kind.   Some of Walter Sr.'s BEST work is in very gentle SMALL organs in out-of-the-way churches in the Cleveland area ... like St. Philomena's RC on the East Side, which has the first church Rueckpositiv, and was meticulously restored in the 1980s.   The Lutheran church on 55th Street was a milestone in American organ-building.   I hope someday SOMEBODY writes a comprehensive history ... Holtkamp's 150th anniversary is coming up.   A VERY significant generation of organists learned what clean playing was all about from Holtkamp instruments ... Cal Hampton, Larry Cortner, Larry Palmer, David Britton, John Gordon Morris, just to name a few.   Holtkamp and Schlicker may have been a plateau in the development of the organ, but they were a very SIGNIFICANT plateau; both might have gone further IF the CLIENTS at the time had been READY. I think their organs have to be heard with that in mind.   Cheers,   Bud          
(back) Subject: Re: Cleveland, Holtkamps, Regional AGO convention From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:01:02 EDT     --part1_1ee.c5281cd.2c32455e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 6/30/2003 8:40:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   > significant ROMANTIC organ in the great French tradition: the Fisk in > Finney Chapel. >   but not romantic in the 30's USA tradition......Hahaha.   so i am jaded and stuffed.   dale   --part1_1ee.c5281cd.2c32455e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 6/30/2003 8:40:07 PM Eastern = Dayl=3D ight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">significant ROMANTIC organ in the great French = tradition: t=3D he Fisk in <BR> Finney Chapel.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> but not romantic in the 30's USA tradition......Hahaha.<BR> <BR> so i am jaded and stuffed.<BR> <BR> dale<BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1ee.c5281cd.2c32455e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Cleveland, Holtkamps, Regional AGO convention From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:18:12 -0700   Well, for good or for ill, almost all the great old Skinners in Cleveland are gone, except for Public Hall, and it's in pretty shabby condition.   Does anybody know if the '20s Austin in Harkness Chapel (?) at Case-Western Reserve is still there?   Cheers,   Bud   Keys4bach@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 6/30/2003 8:40:07 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > >> significant ROMANTIC organ in the great French tradition: the Fisk in >> Finney Chapel. > > > > but not romantic in the 30's USA tradition......Hahaha. > > so i am jaded and stuffed. > > dale        
(back) Subject: More organ info...and thanks..... From: <fuma@cnjnet.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 22:35:59 -0400   Dear List Members;   Thanks to all of you who responded for your help with my dilemma over the origins of the former pipe organ and remaining facade at my congregation. To clear up some details, here are the facts. ALL THAT IS LEFT OF THE OLD PIPE ORGAN IS THE FACADE ITSELF. No wind chests, no blower, no console....NOTHING. And there is NO ONE who remembers anything about it that is still alive around this area, from what I've been told. The remaining pipes in the facade do NOT appear to be speaking pipes, but "dummies". Several said that I should identify the church so that those who have the resources could help me check this out. The organ was installed in the EARLY 1900's, and taken out (except for the facade) around 1951. THE CHURCH IS:   The Gladstone United Methodist Church Church St. at Jackson Ave. Gladstone, New Jersey   At the time of the installation, the church would have been possibly called the Peapack Methodist Church or the Gladstone Methodist Church, because it was PRIOR to the uniting mergers that took place in 1939 and 1968 to form the present denomination. The reason for my question was to identify the original builder of the facade and pipe organ so that I could obtain an old stoplist and details of the former instrument for the purposes of either locating the pipework or replacing it with period and/or original manufacturer's pipework. The reason that I mentioned the facade was both to give you a good laugh as to the picture of a Hammond C-3 sticking out of the facade, and to see if the non-speaking pipes could be replaced with speaking ones. The thought also occurred to me that the facade (which has no markings I can see) could give a clue as to the origins (i.e....builder) of the original pipe organ.   OK! So now you have the information many of you requested. If you have a way to look up just WHAT instrument was placed in this congregation, I would be MOST grateful to have that information. Thanks, William A. Webber Organist, Minister of Music and Religious Education Gladstone UMC Gladstone, New Jersey