PipeChat Digest #3512 - Monday, March 3, 2003
 
Re: Organs With Two Pedal Boards
  by "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net>
Re: LONG RE: The Churches and Young People Venezuela
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organs With Two Pedal Boards From: "Stan Yoder" <vze2myh5@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:09:17 -0500       Bill Sebring wrote: > > Two Pedalboards? Would anyone be able or willing to post this as a = weblinked > photo? Talk about a stretch for the legs, but to agree with Malcolm, > definately sounds like fun. :-{)} > > Well, I did see a pic of the Ulm Walcker. The second pedalboard had very = short naturals and was mounted at an angle, at the location of our swell shoes (over a wider = expanse, of course.) Where the shoe(s) was/were I don't remember. A romantic Walcker would have had at = least one.   Stan Yoder Pittsburgh  
(back) Subject: Re: LONG RE: The Churches and Young People Venezuela From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 02:01:07 EST     --part1_132.1b8ba0b2.2b9457b3_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Andres:   The way I see it, damage was done, violence to the churches, their music. Patience is in order to rebuild what was lost, and it will take time. It also seems that mindsets run in the extreme, clergy, musicians, communicants roadblocks everywhere, lack of compassion, stubborness, expectations too high for now. My advise is to start out simply, and build toward goals, small choirs, good accessable singable music, modest organs that are capable of a variety of good music, one church at a time. The reorganization must include the clergy, musicians, and the people. Over time must be guided back to what works. Good start would be to reintroduce polyphony, and good choral training. Encourage composers to write simple but solid music. You are there, and with consensus and a plan can get this work done. Folk music in church is destined to fail, nor will God bless such stupid nonsense. Your trouble seems to stem from Guzman Blanco, who appears to have had a destructive agenda toward the church in the first place. It was about the time Communism, and Socialism began to cause trouble in Europe, spawned by the secret societies. Blanco was no different, and achieved his distructive goal scattering the efforts of priests and nuns an running them out of the country, a job he was deliberately sent in to do. Humanize the country and destroy the church and its goals and values which Vatican II seemed to support, All done on purpose I might add. It was a world wide movement, and hit everywhere like a hoard of storm troopers. These were and are extremely dangerous people.   To be successful, most of all, get people to pray again, God will listen.   Ron Severin   --part1_132.1b8ba0b2.2b9457b3_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Andres:<BR> <BR> The way I see it, damage was done, violence to the churches,<BR> their music. Patience is in order to rebuild what was lost, and<BR> it will take time. It also seems that mindsets run in the extreme,<BR> clergy, musicians, communicants roadblocks everywhere, lack<BR> of compassion, stubborness, expectations too high for now.<BR> My advise is to start out simply, and build toward goals, small<BR> choirs, good accessable singable music, modest organs<BR> that are capable of a variety of good music, one church at a time.<BR> The reorganization must include the clergy, musicians, and<BR> the people. Over time must be guided back to what works. <BR> Good start would be to reintroduce polyphony, and good choral<BR> training. Encourage composers to write simple but solid music.<BR> You are there, and with consensus and a plan can get this work done.<BR> Folk music in church is destined to fail, nor will God bless such<BR> stupid nonsense. Your trouble seems to stem from Guzman Blanco,<BR> who appears to have had a destructive agenda toward the church<BR> in the first place. It was about the time Communism, and Socialism<BR> began to cause trouble in Europe, spawned by the secret societies.<BR> Blanco was no different, and achieved his distructive goal scattering<BR> the efforts of priests and nuns an running them out of the country,<BR> a job he was deliberately sent in to do. Humanize the country and<BR> destroy the church and its goals and values which Vatican II seemed<BR> to support, All done on purpose I might add. It was a world wide<BR> movement, and hit everywhere like a hoard of storm troopers. These<BR> were and are extremely dangerous people.<BR> <BR> To be successful, most of all, get people to pray again, God will = listen.<BR=3D > <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_132.1b8ba0b2.2b9457b3_boundary--