PipeChat Digest #3522 - Thursday, March 6, 2003
 
Re: Organ Specs.-Response
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
a story worth sharing (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
take me off you list
  by "Ronald Warren" <rwarren@inreach.com>
Re: mono vs stereo sylii for an LP
  by "Ray Kimber" <ray@kimber.com>
Re: take me off you list
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
Re: Organ Specs.
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: take me off you list
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
RE: Organs With Two Pedal Boards
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Alto Solo
  by "PA" <echogamba@ntlworld.com>
Dan Miller in Concert on 3/9
  by "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com>
Re: Dan Miller in Concert on 3/9
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Christian Lane Recital in Little Rock, AR
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs.-Response From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:09:01 EST     --part1_1ce.470e2a2.2b98945d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hello,   The organ project sounds great. The BEST installation is what is = BEST=3D =3D20 for you. We have just replaced our organ this past July with an = Allen=3D20 Renaissance Custom 80 stop with only 9 rank of pipes. The pipes ranks = we=3D20 have blend and compliment the digital ranks very well. It sounds like we = hav=3D e=3D20 many more ranks of pipes. It is truly a magnificent sound. With the = large=3D20 amount of pipe ranks you are installing in the future you will have a = true=3D20 masterpiece.=3D20 I was a person who said I would NEVER have an Allen in my = church.=3D20 Well, I have eaten those words many times over in the past several = months.=3D20 What is remarkable is the Renaissance technology allows you to change=3D20 specifications and voicing in the stop list. In addition you can regulate = =3D20 wind, chiff, note by note volume and voicing. It is truly remarkable. The = ke=3D y=3D20 to a blended sound is the voicing. We spent over a week voicing our=3D20 installation. For instance on the Bourdon 8', the bottom 12 notes are = stoppe=3D d=3D20 wood and the remaining are stopped metal. You can actually hear the = change=3D20 from wood to metal just like a real pipe when playing the notes = singularly.=3D20 A few of the companies that we heard and played pipe/digital = installations=3D20 sounded like 2 separate organs. You could actually hear the pipe ranks = above=3D =3D20 the digital ranks. The blending was just not there. We have basically an Aeolian-Skinner, Cavaille-Coll sounding=3D20 instrument. With the added pipe ranks of: Principal 8', Octave 4', = Fifteenth=3D =3D20 2',Flute Harmonique 8', Flute Octavante 4', Flute Octavin 2', Mixture II = and=3D =3D20 Trumpet en Chamade 8'. Our pipework was built by Rieger-Kloss of Krnov in = th=3D e=3D20 Czech Republic.We chose this company because of the tin content of their = flu=3D e=3D20 pipes and their reputation of 130 years of pipe production. Our pipe builder, voicer, installer was Lauck Pipe Organ Company = in=3D20 Otsego, Michigan. We heard several installations of pipe/digital built = by=3D20 this company. A truly wonderful builder. Lauck Pipe Organ Company = also=3D20 specializes in custom work and rebuilds. They rebuilt the First = Presbyterian=3D =3D20 Church organ in Orlando last year which was dedicated by Alan Morrison. = It=3D20 was a Moller that they rebuilt, revoiced, added new pipe ranks and = includes=3D20 an Allen custom 4 manual console. =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0After visiting, = hearing and playing over 2=3D 5+ organ installations=3D20 from all the major manufacturers both pipe and digital, we chose the = Allen=3D20 pipe/digital for the sound, versatility, reliability, technical support, = and=3D =3D20 overall BEST for our church . It is truly a marvelous sound and people = have=3D20 trouble telling the pipe from the digital. The blending of the pipes = and=3D20 digital is superb. I was playing " O Man Bemoan Thy Grevious Sin" by = J.S.=3D20 Bach for the prelude yesterday and I ever so pleased with the sound of = the=3D20 pipes and digital. It was truly a blended and gorgeous sound. Since we = are=3D20=3D a=3D20 large parish on the eastern coast of Florida, we have many visitors. = I=3D20 constantly have people stop and tell us how beautiful that "pipe organ" = soun=3D d=3D20 is. LOL=3D20 I never divulge what is pipe and what is digital. The sound speaks = for=3D20 itself. We have a very large sanctuary which seats 1,250 people and the = organ=3D =3D20 fills the space beautifully. We had 3 services for Ash Wednesday to=3D20 overflowing crowds and the organ led the congregation wonderfully. Our = peopl=3D e=3D20 sing extremely well, but the new installation has really boosted them up = a=3D20 notch. You will not be disappointed with the Allen console. We have a = 3=3D20 manual custom and it is a pleasure to play. I designed the layout and = we=3D20 interchanged stop specs like you did for your custom 4 manual.=3D20 =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0 We also chose Allen for the company pledge = for parts and=3D service.=3D20 Good luck and if you need any help or information, please contact me. Thank you for your time and attention.   Sincerely,   Dan Port Orange, Florida       --part1_1ce.470e2a2.2b98945d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Tw Cen MT" LANG=3D3D"0">Hello,<BR> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; The organ project sounds great. The = BES=3D T installation is what is BEST for you. We have just replaced our = organ&nbsp=3D ; this past July with an Allen Renaissance&nbsp; Custom 80 stop&nbsp; with = o=3D nly 9 rank of pipes. The pipes ranks we have blend and compliment the = digita=3D l ranks very well. It sounds like we have many more ranks of pipes. It is = tr=3D uly a magnificent sound. With the large amount of pipe ranks you are = install=3D ing in the future you will have a true <B>masterpiece.</B> <BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I was a person who said I would = <B>NEVE=3D R have an Allen in my church</B>. Well, I have eaten those words many = times=3D20=3D over in the past several months. What is remarkable is the = <B>Renaissance</B=3D > technology allows you to change specifications&nbsp; and voicing in the = st=3D op list. In addition you can regulate&nbsp; wind, chiff, note by note = volume=3D and voicing. It is truly remarkable. The key to a blended sound is the = <B>v=3D oicing</B>. We spent over a week voicing our installation. For instance on = t=3D he Bourdon 8', the bottom 12 notes are stopped wood and the remaining are = st=3D opped metal. You can actually hear the change from wood to metal just like = a=3D real pipe when playing the notes singularly. <BR> A few of the companies that we heard and played pipe/digital installations = s=3D ounded like 2 separate organs. You could actually hear the pipe ranks = above=3D20=3D the digital ranks. The blending was just not there.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We have basically an Aeolian-Skinner, = C=3D availle-Coll sounding instrument. With the added pipe ranks of: Principal = 8'=3D , Octave 4', Fifteenth 2',Flute Harmonique 8', Flute Octavante 4', Flute = Oct=3D avin 2', Mixture II and Trumpet en Chamade 8'. Our pipework was built by = Rie=3D ger-Kloss of Krnov in the Czech Republic.We chose this company because of = th=3D e tin content of their flue pipes and their reputation of 130 years of = pipe=3D20=3D production.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Our pipe builder, voicer, installer = was=3D Lauck Pipe Organ Company in Otsego, Michigan. We heard several = installation=3D s of pipe/digital built by this company. A truly wonderful builder. Lauck = Pi=3D pe Organ Company also specializes in custom work and rebuilds. They = rebuilt=3D20=3D the First Presbyterian Church&nbsp; organ in Orlando last year which was = ded=3D icated by Alan Morrison. It was a Moller that they rebuilt, revoiced, = added=3D20=3D new pipe ranks and includes an Allen custom 4 manual console.<BR> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0After visiting, = hearing and playing over&nb=3D sp; 25+ organ installations from all the major manufacturers both pipe and = d=3D igital, we chose the Allen pipe/digital for the sound, versatility, = reliabil=3D ity, technical support, and overall BEST for our church . It is truly a = marv=3D elous sound and people have trouble telling the pipe from the digital. The = b=3D lending of the pipes and digital is superb. I was playing " O Man Bemoan = Thy=3D Grevious Sin" by&nbsp; J.S. Bach for the prelude yesterday and I ever so = pl=3D eased with the sound of the pipes and digital. It was&nbsp; truly a = blended=3D20=3D and gorgeous sound. Since we are a large parish on the eastern coast of = Flor=3D ida, we have many visitors. I constantly have people stop and tell us how = be=3D autiful that "pipe organ" sound is. LOL <BR> I never divulge what is pipe and what is digital. The sound speaks for = itsel=3D f.<BR> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We have a very large sanctuary which = se=3D ats 1,250 people and the organ fills the space beautifully. We had 3 = service=3D s for Ash Wednesday to overflowing crowds and the organ led the congregation=3D wonderfully. Our people sing extremely well, but the new installation has = r=3D eally boosted them up a notch. You will not be disappointed with the Allen = c=3D onsole. We have a 3 manual custom and it is a pleasure to play. I designed = t=3D he layout and we interchanged stop specs like you did for your custom 4 = manu=3D al. <BR> =3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0=3DA0&nbsp; We also chose Allen for the company = pledge for part=3D s and service. Good luck and if you need any help or information, please = con=3D tact me.<BR> Thank you for your time and attention.<BR> <BR> Sincerely,<BR> <BR> Dan<BR> Port Orange, Florida<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_1ce.470e2a2.2b98945d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: a story worth sharing (X-posted) From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:24:55 -0800   A choir member's mother is in hospice ... I received this note from her yesterday ... with her permission, here it is:   _________________________________________________________________________     "I found my mother's CD player and took it in with Tom's recording of the dedication (of St. Matthew's). She didn't recognize what she was hearing for the first few minutes of choir music but then it sank in. Given that her span of attention these days is about two minutes, I was moved to see that she stayed attentive, even closed her eyes like she used to do when listening to opera. She heard the whole thing (I fast-forwarded over some of Bishop Stark's sermon). I find the plainsong/chant the most beautiful music in the recordings. That's not to say anything against the anthems or hymns. It's just a different kind of spiritual experience. No wonder it's hung around so long. Even my mother remarked at how "calming" it was. I owe you a great deal for bringing it to our church.   On Monday, I took our hymnal in when I visited my mother. I sang about three hymns before I noticed a positive response from her...one big toe was keeping the beat. Her roommate, May, is a 99 year old with advanced Alzheimer's, no dentures and a glass eye that stares at you even when she's asleep. She was collapsed in a wheelchair, seemingly zoned out. However, I noticed, after a few more hymns, that one of her feet was keeping time too. During a break, May started talking. Between dementia and toothlessness, it's very hard to understand her but I did catch the word "Jesus." Turns out she was asking if I knew a certain hymn and when I looked it up in the hymnal, had to admit I didn't. She then sang a verse!!!! Once again, I was humbled by God's presence when I least expected it. I resumed singing, but more slowly and enunciating with great care; now I was singing for two..."   __________________________________________________________________________       Bud    
(back) Subject: take me off you list From: "Ronald Warren" <rwarren@inreach.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 11:29:30 -0800   take me off you list    
(back) Subject: Re: mono vs stereo sylii for an LP From: "Ray Kimber" <ray@kimber.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:39:13 -0700   I wrote:   >You can more easily damage a stereo LP with a mono stylus, than the other >way round.   Ross Wrote:   "Not correct. It is the mono cartridge that wrecks stereo records, not the stylus, as the stylus moves as the cartridge allows it to."   Without putting too fine a point on it (pun intended and smiling with good nature)   The cartridge is what the stylus plugs into, it is generally accepted that when one speaks of a stylus it means the tip, the shank, the suspension, magnets and the little metal and plastic bits that hold them together. It is not the "tip" per se that might cause damage, but instead how the suspension of the stylus assembly would allow it to move.   You can buy a mono stylus for a stereo cartridge and vice versa. Damage = to the LP IMHO would be caused primarily by how the suspension allowed the = tip to move and secondarily by the material/shape/size of the tip.   Kind regards,   Ray   (who is fully aware that this might not apply to certain stylus/cartridge combinations such as moving coil, strain guage, crystal or ceramic.)        
(back) Subject: Re: take me off you list From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 14:33:08 -0800   You seemed to get yourself on here you also have to get YOURSELF OFF. If you can read it tells you how at the bottom of each message.   Ronald Warren wrote:   > take me off you list > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs. From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:57:54 EST     --part1_60.2e47221f.2b990242_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 3/6/03 1:31:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, drobinson@houston.rr.com writes:     > Just felt we could solve two problems with one organ. > Thanks. I guess it makes sense. I'm just glad I got out of the = "business" before it became an industry. ;-)     Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_60.2e47221f.2b990242_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 3/6/03=3D 1:31:41 AM Eastern Standard Time, drobinson@houston.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Just felt we could solve = tw=3D o problems with one organ. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0">Thanks. &nbsp;I guess it makes sense. &nbsp;&nbsp;I'm = just g=3D lad I got out of the "business" before it became an industry. ;-) <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_60.2e47221f.2b990242_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: take me off you list From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:05:43 -0600   Ron Warren wrote:   "take me off you list"     Hey Ron,   Try this link: Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org   Wasn't that easy?   Tim     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/2003  
(back) Subject: RE: Organs With Two Pedal Boards From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:23:15 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   This thread is almost a week "old"- I was too busy to read mail these = days.   At first, I have a good photograph of the Stuttgart Stift Walcker console- if it isn't available on line somewhere you can request me to send it privatedly as JPG attachment.   At second, Ron Severin gave a very good description of the "monster" :) bravo! :) To play the two pedal boards accuratedly a special designed bench was necessary. This bench was extra weighted and had a huge back support. Regretfully the bench is not shown at the photograph.   Cheers Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.            
(back) Subject: Alto Solo From: "PA" <echogamba@ntlworld.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:51:54 -0000   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001E_01C2E422.388AD9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hello Listers,   My good lady has asked me to email the list with suggestions on alto =3D solos.   The church at which I am organist is preparing a 'musical evening' which = =3D is to include the choir singing a couple of anthems, short organ =3D recital, piano pieces, children's choir and solo performances. As an =3D alto, my wife has been asked if she would be prepared to do something. = =3D She has a few ideas but wondered if you could offer any other ideas. =3D The piece she is singing doesn't have to be religious as we are =3D including many secular bits as well. All she wants is some suggestions = =3D for an alto voice with either an organ or piano accompaniment.   Thanks for your help.   Paul.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001E_01C2E422.388AD9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hello Listers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My good lady has asked me to email = the =3D list with=3D20 suggestions on alto solos.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The church at which I am organist is = =3D preparing a=3D20 'musical evening' which is to include the choir singing a couple of =3D anthems,=3D20 short organ recital, piano pieces, children's choir and solo =3D performances.&nbsp;=3D20 As an alto, my wife has been asked if she would be prepared to do=3D20 something.&nbsp; She has a few ideas but wondered if you could offer any = =3D other=3D20 ideas.&nbsp; The piece she is singing doesn't have to be religious as we = =3D are=3D20 including many secular bits as well.&nbsp; All she wants is some =3D suggestions for=3D20 an alto voice with either an organ or piano accompaniment.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Thanks for your help.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Paul.</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001E_01C2E422.388AD9C0--    
(back) Subject: Dan Miller in Concert on 3/9 From: "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:17:22 -0800   To all of you who are in the San Francisco Bay Area: Dan Miller will be in concert at First Presbyterian Church in Hayward, CA, this Sunday evening 3/9 at 6pm. There is no charge for admission but I would advise that you arrive early to get a seat! John Jarvis    
(back) Subject: Re: Dan Miller in Concert on 3/9 From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 19:21:21 -0500   On 3/6/03 5:17 PM, "John Jarvis" <jjarvis@attbi.com> wrote:   > To all of you who are in the San Francisco Bay Area: > Dan Miller will be in concert at First Presbyterian Church in Hayward, = CA, > this Sunday evening 3/9 at 6pm. There is no charge for admission but I > would advise that you arrive early to get a seat!   If I knew more (instrument, program, directions?) I'd forward them to friends in the Bay Area. Don't be bashful.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Christian Lane Recital in Little Rock, AR From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:35:30 -0600   Christian Lane, a senior at the Eastman School of Music and a student of David Higgs, will be giving a recital next Monday night, March 10, 2003 at Christ Church (509 Scott Street) in Little Rock, AR beginning at 7:30 PM. This recital is sponsored by The Central Arkansas Chapter of the AGO. The organ at Christ Church is a Nichols & Simpson - http://www.nicholsandsimpson.com/prod01.htm   Chris' program is:   "The World Awaiting the Savior (from Symphonie-Passion, Op 23) - Marcel Dup= re   Pastorale and Scherzetto (24 Pieces in Free Style, Op 31) - Louis Vierne   Adagio in E - Frank Bridge   =46ree Fantasia on "O Zion, Haste" and "How Firm a Foundation" - William Bol= com   Partita on "Sei gegr=FCsset, Jesu g=FCtig", BWV 768 - J.S. Bach   "There is a Happy Land" and " I Love Thee, My Lord" (from Sacred Sounds for Organ) - George Shearing   =46inal (Symphonie 1) - Vierne   If any list members do attend please introduce yourselves as there are at least three members of these lists that will be in attendance.   David