PipeChat Digest #3527 - Sunday, March 9, 2003
 
Jonathan Hall, William Powers Concert
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
RE: CC's opinion about Walcker
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: A Really BAD Play on words (No particular organ content)
  by "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net>
Re: Organ Specs.
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: A Really BAD Play on words (No particular organ content)
  by "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com>
keyboards
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Re: Organ Specs.
  by <Icedad@aol.com>
Re: GREGORIAN CHANT QUESTION (x post, off topic)
  by "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net>
Re: Organ Specs.
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Urgent Jazz Help Needed
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Organ Specs.
  by "Daryl Robinson" <drobinson@houston.rr.com>
RE: Organ Specs.
  by "Bill Sebring" <baircub@austin.rr.com>
ANOTHER RANT
  by "Daryl Robinson" <drobinson@houston.rr.com>
Re: Organ Specs.
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: ANOTHER RANT
  by "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: Jonathan Hall, William Powers Concert From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:23:56 EST     --part1_1ca.4ad5276.2b9c9a6c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   This was a first for me. I had never heard a Saxophone/Organ concert. = With Dr. Jonathan Hall at the Organ in the Chapel at OCU, and William Powers on =   Saxophone, the music melded into one instrument. Mr. Powers has an = elegant, beautiful tone as well as a virtuosic technique. Dr. Hall is organist and =   choirmaster at the Church of the Epiphany and at the Church of Saint Jean Baptiste, both on the Upper East Side of Manhattan.   Again, I don't have the specifics of the organ at OCU, and I am relying on =   Peter to give those to us. The Program was:   Pavane and Galliard: The Earle of Salisbury by William Byrd, Arr. JBH Organ and Saxophone     Prelude and Fugue in D Major by J. L. Krebs (1713-1780) Organ solo   Sonata in G Major by Giovanni Platti (1690-1763) arr. Euguene Rousseau Organ and Soprano Saxophone   Fuga in g minor by Mathias van den Gheyn (1721-1785) Organ Solo   Andante in e minor by J. H. Fiocco (1703-1741) Organ and Soprano Saxophone   Improvisation (1972) by Ryo Noda (b. 1948) Alto Saxophone Solo (Very contemporary, showing all the different sounds of the saxophone)   Toccata and Fugue in d minor by J. S. Bach Organ   Sonata in E flat by J. S. Bach Organ and Soprano Saxophone   The concert was well received by the rather small, but enthusiastic = audience. It was ready for an encore, but none was to be had.   The concert was made possible with support from Peter and Judith Storandt. = They are due a large thank you for bringing these artists to Oklahoma = City.     --part1_1ca.4ad5276.2b9c9a6c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#400040" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">This was a first for = me.&nbsp; I ha=3D d never heard a Saxophone/Organ concert.&nbsp; With Dr. Jonathan Hall at = the=3D Organ in the Chapel at OCU, and William Powers on Saxophone, the music = meld=3D ed into one instrument.&nbsp; Mr. Powers has an elegant, beautiful tone as = w=3D ell as a virtuosic technique.&nbsp; Dr. Hall is organist and choirmaster = at=3D20=3D the Church of the Epiphany and at the Church of Saint Jean Baptiste, both = on=3D the Upper East Side of Manhattan.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Again, I don't have the specifics of the organ at OCU, and I am relying on = P=3D eter to give those to us.&nbsp;&nbsp; The Program was:<BR> <BR> Pavane and Galliard: The Earle of Salisbury by William Byrd, Arr. JBH<BR> Organ and Saxophone<BR> <BR> <BR> Prelude and Fugue in D Major by J. L. Krebs (1713-1780)<BR> Organ solo<BR> <BR> Sonata in G Major by Giovanni Platti (1690-1763) arr. Euguene Rousseau<BR> Organ and Soprano Saxophone<BR> <BR> Fuga in g minor by Mathias van den Gheyn (1721-1785)<BR> Organ Solo<BR> <BR> Andante in e minor by J. H. Fiocco (1703-1741)<BR> Organ and Soprano Saxophone<BR> <BR> Improvisation (1972) by Ryo Noda (b. 1948)<BR> Alto Saxophone Solo<BR> (Very contemporary, showing all the different sounds of the saxophone)<BR> <BR> Toccata and Fugue in d minor by J. S. Bach<BR> Organ<BR> <BR> Sonata in E flat by J. S. Bach<BR> Organ and Soprano Saxophone<BR> <BR> The concert was well received by the rather small, but enthusiastic = audience=3D ..&nbsp; It was ready for an encore, but none was to be had. <BR> <BR> The concert was made possible with support from Peter and Judith = Storandt.&n=3D bsp; They are due a large thank you for bringing these artists to Oklahoma = C=3D ity.&nbsp;&nbsp; </FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ca.4ad5276.2b9c9a6c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: CC's opinion about Walcker From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 07:55:39 -0600   This was a very interesting read - I would have posted to Andres privately with my thanks, but his address did not come up on my screen.   Thanks anyway.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com        
(back) Subject: Re: A Really BAD Play on words (No particular organ content) From: "firman1" <firman1@prodigy.net> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 08:13:30 -0600   Hello all, On this same subject, I just bought an Estey II/8 with new chimes for = $250. They need the space for a "Praise Band". I had to move the bongos out of the way first! BAF II      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs. From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 09:40:49 EST   With all those pipes and all those fake digital voices, it still fails to address some important requirements of the established organ literature. = Even if it were all pipes, it would frustrate many a musician, despite its apparent size and scope.  
(back) Subject: Re: A Really BAD Play on words (No particular organ content) From: "Ronald Gibson" <gibsonronald@hotmail.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 14:57:34 +0000   <html><div style=3D'background-color:'><DIV> <P><BR><BR></P>Dear Richard, </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <P>That's quite funny! This one goes into the "permanent file" = !&nbsp;&nbsp; Thanks!</P> <P>Sincerely yours,</P> <P>Ronald D. Gibson</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV></DIV>&gt;From: ContraReed@aol.com <DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: "PipeChat" <PIPECHAT@PIPECHAT.ORG> <DIV></DIV>&gt;To: pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: A Really BAD Play on words (No particular organ = content) <DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:27:08 EST <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;I was talking today to the conductor of one of the = orchestras in which I <DIV></DIV>&gt;play. He is a devout Roman Catholic who is constantly = lamenting the decline <DIV></DIV>&gt;in music in many RC churches. Although he has a been a = professional musician <DIV></DIV>&gt;his whole life, he only attends spoken mass at his parish = because the only <DIV></DIV>&gt;music they have is the "folk" group. He said that the = guitars and drums were <DIV></DIV>&gt;destroying the mass. We looked at each other, and both said = at the same <DIV></DIV>&gt;time: "Weapons of Mass destruction" <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;running for cover............ <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;Richard <DIV></DIV>&gt; <DIV></DIV>&gt;"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" <DIV></DIV>&gt;PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs &amp; = related topics <DIV></DIV>&gt;HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV>&gt;Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org <DIV></DIV></div><br clear=3Dall><hr>The new <a = href=3D"http://g.msn.com/8HMVENUS/2737">MSN 8:</a> smart spam protection = and 2 months FREE* </html>  
(back) Subject: keyboards From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 09:04:18 -0600   Hi list, I have a set of 2 manuals that I would like to sell. They are Moller and have been rewired with Peterson connectors. If anyone is interested, please email me privately. gblack@ocslink.com Thanks. Gary      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs. From: <Icedad@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:00:57 EST     --part1_f4.2a211709.2b9ce969_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello,   I have played significant literature while in college and graduate school = on many a small pipe organ. As long as the organ has a Principal Chorus, = Flute Chorus, Mixture and some decent reeds what else is needed? Not every one = can have a 117 rank Casavant. LOL     Sincerely,   Dan   --part1_f4.2a211709.2b9ce969_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Tw Cen MT" LANG=3D3D"0">Hello,<BR> <BR> I have played significant literature while in college and graduate school = o=3D n many a small pipe organ. As long as the organ has a Principal Chorus, = Flut=3D e Chorus, Mixture and some decent reeds what else is needed? Not every one = c=3D an have a 117 rank Casavant. LOL<BR> <BR> <BR> Sincerely,<BR> <BR> Dan</FONT></HTML>   --part1_f4.2a211709.2b9ce969_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: GREGORIAN CHANT QUESTION (x post, off topic) From: "Paul Opel" <popel@sover.net> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 14:44:56 -0500   A useful place for all manner of facsimiles and antiquarian music is OMI (Old Manuscripts and Incunabula), also in New York. I believe they have a website, but I haven't checked.     Paul Opel   > Alan, Where is Argosy Books located? Thanx, J. =   > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: Alan Freed To: PipeChat >Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2003 9:40 AM Subject: Re: GREGORIAN CHANT >QUESTION (x post, off topic) >On 3/8/03 1:28 AM, "ScottFop@aol.com" <ScottFop@aol.com> wrote: > > > >I have seen many colleagues with beautiful Gregorian Chant pages >framed and on the walls of their offices and homes. Where do they >find there? I checked ebay and couldn't find anything. I would = love >to get one or two. Does anyone have a clue that they can help we >with? > >Scott F. Foppiano >Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat. > > >Antiquarian book dealers in any major city. E.g., in New York, Argosy >Books. TONS of such stuff, including antique maps, etc. Price varies >with artistic worth; you pay big for the best ones. > >Alan     http://www.sover.net/~popel/agomain.html      
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs. From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:15:36 EST   Dan sez:   "I have played significant literature while in college and graduate school = on many a small pipe organ. As long as the organ has a Principal Chorus, = Flute Chorus, Mixture and some decent reeds what else is needed?"   The organ in question is large, and obviously has a big budget and many consultants of different sorts, and has been planned and replanned several =   times. They should be able to do it right.  
(back) Subject: Urgent Jazz Help Needed From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 15:32:10 EST     --part1_1ee.3e1e824.2b9cfeca_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   List,   Sorry, this has nothing to do with organs, but I figured that I would have =   the best chance of getting help from y'all. I'm in a real crunch right = now, having volunteered to play the piano for a play our local group of players =   will be performing. It's entitled:   "The 1940's Radio Hour" written by Walton Jones (1977).   I had a rather good experience accompanying "The Wizard of Oz" a few years =   ago, so I tho't I'd lend a hand. I was given a copy of the score. = Somehow, I wasn't quite quick enough at saying "no", so I'm roped in. The problem = is that it's all jazz. Worse yet, there are minimal notes!!!! Unlike = Prissy, I CAN BIRTH BABIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW NUTHIN' ABOUT PLAYIN' JAZZ, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ONLY GIVE ME BASS NOTES AND CHORD SYMBOLS.   Can you tell that I'm a little frantic right now. I had a jazz person = tell me that that's all "they" really need - "they" being those who know how to =   play jazz. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody out there is good at jazz = and might be familiar with this play/musical. I have spent numerous hours = these past 2 weeks actually trying to write out my right hand part (using = Finale) to indicate the actual notes I should be playing for the various chords. = The chords are ones that I've almost never heard of. I now know about them, = but they definitely don't just fall under my fingers yet. I'm cutting out = chords that I print out and taping them onto my score.   I've contemplated backing out, but I hate to leave people hanging. I'm sometimes too loyal for my own good. I'm up to a challenge, but I just = don't have time to (1) learn a new musical language, (2) try to figure out how = to play what's hidden in the chord symbols and slash marks, and (3) try to = get it written down, so I can play it.   Not only do I find myself playing the piano, but I've unwittingly gotten a =   part. The play's band leader/pianist is Zoot Doubleman. I've got a few short lines. Unlike The Wizard when I was off to the side on the piano.   Anyway, I've figured out a good bit of what I need to know. There are a = few songs that I just can't get figured out. Our little onstage band is short = a few parts as well. We have a clarinet, tube (bass), alto sax, tenor sax, drummer. A very good trumpet player quit last week.   Here are the songs. Ones marked * are ones I need help with. 1. Kalamazoo (OK on this one) 2. Pepsi Cola Jingle (Ok here) 3. Daddy (OK here,) 4. Love is here to stay (Gershwin) OK here. 5. Black Magic (Adequate here) *6. Ain't She Sweet (Jack Yollen, Milton Ager) Pretty rough on this one. 7. How About You (Burton Lane, Ralph Freed) Needs some work. 8. Blue Moon - OK with this one. 9. I'll Never Smile Again (pretty adequate). *10. Boogie Woogie Buble Boy - my part OK, but we don't have a trumpet. *11. Blues in the Night - OK, but still no trumpet. *12. Jingle Bells (Bill Finigan, Glenn Miller, Eddi Saracas). Could be good, but is really rough right now. ***13. I Got It Bad & That Ain't Good (Duke Ellington, Paul Francis = Webster) Need help with this. I'm threatening to boycott this one. Score doesn't even have the chords, just cues for the instruments. *14. You Go To My Head - Need some help 15. Five O Clock Whistle - OK, but could use some help. 16. Strike Up the Band - OK 17. I'll Be Seeing You - OK.   Thanks. I guess I'll owe y'all. Keith   --part1_1ee.3e1e824.2b9cfeca_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">List,<BR> <BR> Sorry, this has nothing to do with organs, but I figured that I would have = t=3D he best chance of getting help from y'all.&nbsp; I'm in a real crunch = right=3D20=3D now, having volunteered to play the piano for a play our local group of = play=3D ers will be performing.&nbsp; It's entitled:<BR> <BR> "The 1940's Radio Hour" written by Walton Jones (1977).<BR> <BR> I had a rather good experience accompanying "The Wizard of Oz" a few years = a=3D go, so I tho't I'd lend a hand.&nbsp; I was given a copy of the = score.&nbsp;=3D Somehow, I wasn't quite quick enough at saying "no", so I'm roped = in.&nbsp;=3D The problem is that it's all jazz.&nbsp; Worse yet, there are minimal = notes=3D !!!!&nbsp; Unlike Prissy, I CAN BIRTH BABIES, BUT I DON'T KNOW NUTHIN' = ABOUT=3D PLAYIN' JAZZ, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ONLY GIVE ME BASS NOTES AND CHORD = SYMBOL=3D S.<BR> <BR> Can you tell that I'm a little frantic right now.&nbsp; I had a jazz = person=3D20=3D tell me that that's all "they" really need - "they" being those who know = how=3D to play jazz.&nbsp; Anyway, I was wondering if anybody out there is good = at=3D jazz and might be familiar with this play/musical.&nbsp; I have spent = numer=3D ous hours these past 2 weeks actually trying to write out my right hand = part=3D (using Finale) to indicate the actual notes I should be playing for the = var=3D ious chords.&nbsp; The chords are ones that I've almost never heard = of.&nbsp=3D ; I now know about them, but they definitely don't just fall under my = finger=3D s yet.&nbsp; I'm cutting out chords that I print out and taping them onto = my=3D score.<BR> <BR> I've contemplated backing out, but I hate to leave people hanging.&nbsp; = I'm=3D sometimes too loyal for my own good.&nbsp; I'm up to a challenge, but I = jus=3D t don't have time to (1) learn a new musical language, (2) try to figure = out=3D how to play what's hidden in&nbsp; the chord symbols and slash marks, and = (=3D 3) try to get it written down, so I can play it.<BR> <BR> Not only do I find myself playing the piano, but I've unwittingly gotten a = p=3D art.&nbsp; The play's band leader/pianist is Zoot Doubleman.&nbsp; I've = got=3D20=3D a few short lines.&nbsp; Unlike The Wizard when I was off to the side on = the=3D piano.<BR> <BR> Anyway, I've figured out a good bit of what I need to know.&nbsp; There = are=3D20=3D a few songs that I just can't get figured out.&nbsp; Our little onstage = band=3D is short a few parts as well.&nbsp; We have a clarinet, tube (bass), alto = s=3D ax, tenor sax, drummer.&nbsp; A very good trumpet player quit last = week.<BR> <BR> Here are the songs.&nbsp; Ones marked * are ones I need help with.<BR> 1.&nbsp; Kalamazoo (OK on this one)<BR> 2.&nbsp; Pepsi Cola Jingle (Ok here)<BR> 3.&nbsp; Daddy (OK here,)<BR> 4.&nbsp; Love is here to stay (Gershwin)&nbsp; OK here.<BR> 5.&nbsp; Black Magic (Adequate here)<BR> *6.&nbsp; Ain't She Sweet (Jack Yollen, Milton Ager) Pretty rough on this = on=3D e.<BR> 7.&nbsp; How About You (Burton Lane, Ralph Freed) Needs some work.<BR> 8.&nbsp; Blue Moon - OK with this one.<BR> 9.&nbsp; I'll Never Smile Again (pretty adequate).<BR> *10.&nbsp; Boogie Woogie Buble Boy - my part OK, but we don't have a = trumpet=3D ..<BR> *11.&nbsp; Blues in the Night - OK, but still no trumpet.<BR> *12.&nbsp; Jingle Bells (Bill Finigan, Glenn Miller, Eddi Saracas).&nbsp; = Co=3D uld be good, but is really rough right now.<BR> ***13.&nbsp; I Got It Bad &amp; That Ain't Good (Duke Ellington, Paul = Franci=3D s Webster)&nbsp; Need help with this. I'm threatening to boycott this = one.&n=3D bsp; Score doesn't even have the chords, just cues for the = instruments.<BR> *14.&nbsp; You Go To My Head - Need some help<BR> 15.&nbsp; Five O Clock Whistle - OK, but could use some help.<BR> 16.&nbsp; Strike Up the Band - OK<BR> 17.&nbsp; I'll Be Seeing You - OK.<BR> <BR> Thanks.&nbsp; I guess I'll owe y'all.<BR> Keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ee.3e1e824.2b9cfeca_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs. From: "Daryl Robinson" <drobinson@houston.rr.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:42:32 -0600   Tuba, I have spent many hours working on this stoplist and so far all = you've done is complained about it. Yet YOU havent said WHAT exactly it is you = dont like. So if you have a problem with it, back up what your saying rather = than mayin stupid hollow statements. Thanks.....................btw, we didnt exactly have alot of flexibility. The Moller spec is GOING to stay the = same and the Allen has a limited number of drawknobs because of our BUDGET. So = if your going to complain........then offer some sort of logic behind it. The only consultant is myself and me running stoplist by a few trusted ORGAN builders.   Thank you. Daryl Robinson         ----- Original Message ----- From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> To: <Icedad@aol.com>; <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Organ Specs.     > Dan sez: > > "I have played significant literature while in college and graduate = school on > many a small pipe organ. As long as the organ has a Principal Chorus, Flute > Chorus, Mixture and some decent reeds what else is needed?" > > The organ in question is large, and obviously has a big budget and many > consultants of different sorts, and has been planned and replanned = several > times. They should be able to do it right. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Organ Specs. From: "Bill Sebring" <baircub@austin.rr.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:53:25 -0600   Consultants.....doing something right. ? Oh my, the mind reels over = this. I haven't heard such a huge oxymoron since the term "Microsoft Works".   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of TubaMagna@aol.com Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:16 PM To: Icedad@aol.com; pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Organ Specs.     Dan sez:   "I have played significant literature while in college and graduate school on many a small pipe organ. As long as the organ has a Principal Chorus, = Flute Chorus, Mixture and some decent reeds what else is needed?"   The organ in question is large, and obviously has a big budget and many consultants of different sorts, and has been planned and replanned several times. They should be able to do it right.   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: ANOTHER RANT From: "Daryl Robinson" <drobinson@houston.rr.com> Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2003 17:56:44 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0013_01C2E665.3F04A6B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Greetings List..........   TubaMagna has sparked some animosity in me so Im going to go ahead and =3D send this SECOND ranting e-mail, but its something Ive wanted to say for = =3D awile.   It is NO wonder that the organ is a dying species...........all of these = =3D academic STUCK up types that want to build historically ACCURATE organs = =3D get all upset when something NEW is introduced. Rather that be ALL =3D digital organ or combination organs with pipes and electronics. I =3D wouldnt exactly say that at the time Silbermann was building organs that = =3D his were very TRADITIONAL. I see the evolution of the digital organ as =3D the NEXT step in the organ world. And hybrid organs are a great way to =3D incorporate the old with the new.=3D20   I would PREFER to have a well constructed beautiful pipe organ that =3D costs over one million dollars, who wouldnt? BUT, the practicalness of many congregations putting that kind of value = =3D on a ORGAN is not practical at this time. For two reasons I =3D think...........firstly the current economy. Secondly, the view of the =3D organ has NOT been very highly regarded the last decade or two. The =3D congregation doesnt see the organ as a necessisty anymore partly, I =3D believe, due to the academic rather BORING organists and the =3D historically accurate MACHINES that they are playing on. Most the time I = =3D go to an organ recital and fall asleep because its unbelievably BORING. = =3D And I always think, WOW........that person would make a great typist, =3D all they did was get accuracy and play efficently. The organ has always = =3D had a prominent stage in history and the organ would probably be worse =3D off today if Virgil Fox and Diane Bish hadnt done and are doing to help = =3D the organ. Yes Diane sells the organ like a pair of shoes, but shes =3D getting the organ to the masses, and making good money doing it.=3D20   My overall point I suppose is that I think the fall of the organ in this = =3D country atleast, and possibly others (Havent looked into that too much) = =3D is partly if not mostly to blame on those that play it........the =3D organist.=3D20   Im sure there will be several harsh comments made about this e-mail and = =3D not everyone will agree, but it is my OPINION and I expressed it. Which = =3D in this church related business seems like a BAD thing to do.......but I = =3D do it anyway.=3D20   Your truly, Daryl Robinson   Daryl Robinson Organist/Music Associate Friendswood United Methodist Church 281-482-7535, ext. 113 ------=3D_NextPart_000_0013_01C2E665.3F04A6B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Greetings List..........</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>TubaMagna has sparked some animosity = in =3D me so Im=3D20 going to go ahead and send this SECOND ranting e-mail, but its something = =3D Ive=3D20 wanted to say for awile.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>It is NO wonder that the organ is a = =3D dying=3D20 species...........all of these academic STUCK up types that want to =3D build=3D20 historically ACCURATE organs get all upset when something NEW is =3D introduced.=3D20 Rather that be ALL digital organ or combination organs with pipes and=3D20 electronics. I wouldnt exactly say that at the time Silbermann was =3D building=3D20 organs that his were very TRADITIONAL. I see the evolution of the =3D digital organ=3D20 as the NEXT step in the organ world. And hybrid organs are a great way =3D to=3D20 incorporate the old with the new. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I would PREFER to have a well =3D constructed beautiful=3D20 pipe organ that costs over one million dollars, who =3D wouldnt?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>BUT, the practicalness of many =3D congregations=3D20 putting that kind of value on a ORGAN is not practical at this time. For = =3D two=3D20 reasons I think...........firstly the current economy. Secondly, the =3D view of the=3D20 organ has NOT been very highly regarded the last decade or two. The =3D congregation=3D20 doesnt see the organ as a necessisty anymore partly, I believe, due to =3D the=3D20 academic rather BORING organists and the historically accurate MACHINES = =3D that=3D20 they are playing on. Most the time I go to an organ recital and fall =3D asleep=3D20 because its unbelievably BORING. And I always think, WOW........that =3D person=3D20 would make a great typist, all they did was get accuracy and play =3D efficently.=3D20 The organ has always had a prominent stage in history and the organ =3D would=3D20 probably be worse off today if Virgil Fox and Diane Bish hadnt done and = =3D are=3D20 doing to help the organ. Yes Diane sells the organ like a pair of shoes, = =3D but=3D20 shes getting the organ to the masses, and making good money doing it.=3D20 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>My overall point I suppose is that I = =3D think the fall=3D20 of the organ in this country atleast, and possibly others (Havent looked = =3D into=3D20 that too much) is partly if not mostly to blame on those that play =3D it........the=3D20 organist. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Im sure there will be several harsh = =3D comments made=3D20 about this e-mail and not everyone will agree, but it is my OPINION and = =3D I=3D20 expressed it. Which in this church related business seems like a BAD =3D thing to=3D20 do.......but I do it anyway. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Your truly,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Daryl Robinson</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Daryl Robinson<BR>Organist/Music=3D20 Associate<BR>Friendswood United Methodist Church<BR>281-482-7535, = ext.=3D20 113</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0013_01C2E665.3F04A6B0--    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Specs. From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 13:33:47 +1300   >Consultants.....doing something right. ? Oh my, the mind reels over = this. >I haven't heard such a huge oxymoron since the term "Microsoft Works".   Or, maybe, "American diplomacy" or "American English" or "McDonalds = food"???   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: ANOTHER RANT From: "Mack" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2003 19:17:41 -0800   Daryl Robinson wrote:     Well I was going to make a snappy retort, but, what the hell, If you don't get it, you don't get it.   Cheers, Mack