PipeChat Digest #3548 - Monday, March 17, 2003
 
Re: Why not budget home instruments
  by "Thomas Mohr" <thomasmohr@aon.at>
Re: Gordon Turk Concert in Toms River NJ
  by "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com>
Re: TWO OR THREE MANUALS?  Johannus Impressions by Del Case
  by "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com>
Re: T.C. Lewis
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
RE: Why not budget home instruments
  by "Sam Vause" <vause@cox.net>
Free organ lessons
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
Re: TWO OR THREE MANUALS?  Johannus Impressions by Del Case
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Why not budget home instruments?
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: T.C. Lewis
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: TWO OR THREE MANUALS?  Johannus Impressions by Del Case
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Arie,  Johannus and the Frankfurt Fair
  by "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #3546 - 03/16/03
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
RE: Easter Vocal Solo Search
  by "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net>
Re: Free organ lessons
  by "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Why not budget home instruments From: "Thomas Mohr" <thomasmohr@aon.at> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 11:42:14 +0100   Concerning budget home instruments, I definitely say YES !!!   Just my story: For years I wanted to have a organ at home (a church-like electric one) - especially in the winter. It is simply a great convenience = to be able to play whenever you want instead of having to go to church. I = never could afford it really, though. That was until I used the Internet. Now = I'm a proud owner of a Johannus Wesley Allegro, roughly 27 voices, two = manuals,BDO pedal, 5 years old, top condition - now guess the price: EUR 1.200.--. = (USD 1.250.--) I had to do some research and to drive 900 miles to get it - but = I am VERY satisfied.   In my opinion it is totally legitimate to buy a used organ, provided you = stick to a few rules:   1) Do the homework, i.e. research the internet, papers, etc. 2) The instrument should not be older than 5-10 years. 3) You should e prepared to travel a weekend to get the instrument. 4) You should buy a renowned brand, f.i. Johannus has spare parts for all organs they ever built.   This way it should be possible to get a decent practicing instrument for = as less as 5k.   Thomas Mohr   -- DI Thomas Mohr Institute of Cancer Research - Vienna University Borschkegasse 8a A-1090 Vienna Austria Tel ++43 (1) 4277 65160 Fax ++43 (1) 4277 65196  
(back) Subject: Re: Gordon Turk Concert in Toms River NJ From: "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 05:08:17 -0800 (PST)   --0-2083279581-1047906497=3D:53736 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii     Hi Neil,   Thanks for the post regarding Gordon's concert. I moved from NJ 2 years = ago and certainly miss the Ocean Grove concerts.   Gordon, IMHO, plays pieces in concert that appeal to many, many people and = I don't think I have ever attended one of his concerts when the audience = was sparse or un-appreciative.   The constant expansion of the Ocean Grove organ is a testament to this = fact, even though we all know how uncomfortable in can be for both = organist and attendees during the concerts.     Matt       --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online --0-2083279581-1047906497=3D:53736 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <P>Hi Neil,</P> <P>Thanks for the post regarding Gordon's concert. I moved from NJ 2 years = ago and certainly miss the Ocean Grove concerts.</P> <P>Gordon, IMHO, plays pieces in concert that appeal to many, many people = and I don't think I have ever attended one of his concerts when the = audience was sparse or un-appreciative.</P> <P>The constant expansion of the Ocean Grove organ is a testament to this = fact, even though we all know how uncomfortable in can be for both = organist and attendees during the concerts.</P> <P>&nbsp;</P> <P>Matt</P><p><br><hr size=3D1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://rd.yahoo.com/webhosting/mail_tagline/evt=3D7748/*http://webh= osting.yahoo.com/ps/wh3/prod/">Yahoo! Web Hosting</a> - establish your = business online --0-2083279581-1047906497=3D:53736--  
(back) Subject: Re: TWO OR THREE MANUALS? Johannus Impressions by Del Case From: "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 06:06:19 -0800 (PST)   --0-800042971-1047909979=3D:76866 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii     Hi All,   I have been in negotiations with my local Johannus dealer for about a year = now and so have "hands on" experience with the 2002 and 2003 models. This = includes the smallest and cheapest Opus 5 right up to a custom 4 manual = Monarke. Prior to this I have 30 years experience buying 5 Allens, most of = them top of the line 3 manuals ... including the R370.   This is my only real exposure to Johannus so I can not comment directly on = the instrument that Del has played. I do not doubt for a second, though, = his evaluation about the console / keyboard quality. The sound is = something that is too variable to comment on since it is soooooo dependent = on the voicer / installation.   I can say, that Johannus made a very, very poor decision when they first = tried to "crack" the US market ... and it has haunted them ever since. = They simply thought price was everything so went the route of providing = what they thought was value. Good sound at a rock bottom price. Console = considerations were a low priority as per the Euro - tastes and that's = where they cut costs.   Johannus learned their lesson and has absolutely changed with a vengeance. = I know from first hand experience that their tonal work and console = construction are vastly superior to their first budget offerings. Johannus = can and does build instruments with a wide choice of keyboards (all will = be Laukoff (spelling) from now on), several types of moving draw-knobs, = and very solid, you name the wood consoles. They also let the customer = make stop changes (to a degree) at a modest cost.   Johannus has absolutely the largest range of instruments for the various = schools of organ building. English, French, German, Dutch and American = (which is still undergoing tonal refinement). Except for the custom = Monarke, there are 2 complete sets of samples (Intonations) per stop, each = being totally independent. Johannus has 1400 complete ranks of samples FAR = Greater than any other manufacturer.   I absolutely recommend that anyone with a negative opinion of Johannus, = based upon what they did in the past, go give the current models a look = and listen.   I did, last year, and am happy I did. Johannus is the "big gun" among = Euro-brands for reasons that will become apparent when you get to know = their instruments.   Matt       --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online --0-800042971-1047909979=3D:76866 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <P>&nbsp;Hi All,</P> <P>I have been in negotiations with my local Johannus dealer for about a = year now and so have "hands on" experience with the 2002 and 2003 models. = This includes the smallest and cheapest Opus 5&nbsp; right up to a custom = 4 manual Monarke. Prior to this I have 30 years experience buying 5 = Allens, most of them top of the line 3 manuals ... including the R370.</P> <P>This is my only real&nbsp;exposure to Johannus so I can not comment = directly on the instrument that Del has played. I do not doubt for a = second, though, his evaluation about the console / keyboard quality. The = sound is something that is too variable to comment on since it is soooooo = dependent on the voicer / installation.</P> <P>I can say, that Johannus made a very, very poor decision when they = first tried to "crack" the US market ... and it has haunted them ever = since. They simply thought price was everything so went the route of = providing what they thought was value. Good sound at a rock bottom price. = Console considerations were a low priority as per the Euro - tastes and = that's where they cut costs.</P> <P>Johannus learned their lesson and has absolutely changed with a = vengeance. I know from first hand experience that their tonal work and = console construction are vastly superior to their first budget offerings. = Johannus can and does build instruments with a wide choice of keyboards = (all will be Laukoff (spelling) from now on), several types of moving = draw-knobs, and very solid, you name the wood consoles. They also let the customer make stop changes (to a degree) at a modest cost. </P> <P>Johannus has absolutely the largest range of instruments for the = various schools of organ building. English, French, German, Dutch and = American (which is still undergoing tonal refinement). Except for the = custom Monarke, there are 2 complete sets of samples (Intonations) per = stop, each being totally independent. Johannus has 1400 complete ranks of = samples FAR Greater than any other manufacturer.</P> <P>I absolutely recommend that anyone with a negative opinion of Johannus, = based upon what they did in the past, go give the current models a look = and listen.</P> <P>I did, last year, and am happy I did. Johannus is the "big gun" among = Euro-brands for reasons that will become apparent when you get to know = their instruments.</P> <P>Matt</P><p><br><hr size=3D1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://rd.yahoo.com/webhosting/mail_tagline/evt=3D7748/*http://webh= osting.yahoo.com/ps/wh3/prod/">Yahoo! Web Hosting</a> - establish your = business online --0-800042971-1047909979=3D:76866--  
(back) Subject: Re: T.C. Lewis From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:52:17 EST   Yes, Southwark is a dramatic and brilliant instrument, although I = believe it has been through some alterations and an attempted return to its = original state. If one sits in the right location, it is truly thrilling. Another fine Lewis instrument resides at the Kelvingrove Art Gallery, enjoying much better placement, speaking from its balcony into a great central hall, with reverberant galleries serving as acoustically coupled extensions.   Sebastian M. Gluck  
(back) Subject: RE: Why not budget home instruments From: "Sam Vause" <vause@cox.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 07:52:33 -0700   One item I'd add for the home organist: make doubly sure the organ you're contemplating will not exceed the loading factors of your home's flooring structures. Some consoles (especially those with traditional drawknobs) = can possibly cause flooring damage if the structure is not reinforced for the concentrated weight of such a console. --Sam Sam Vause, Chandler, AZ   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Thomas Mohr Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:42 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Why not budget home instruments   Concerning budget home instruments, I definitely say YES !!!   Just my story: For years I wanted to have a organ at home (a church-like electric one) - especially in the winter. It is simply a great convenience = to be able to play whenever you want instead of having to go to church. I = never could afford it really, though. That was until I used the Internet. Now = I'm a ....    
(back) Subject: Free organ lessons From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:12:54 -0500   The Merrimack Valley (Massachusetts) AGO Chapter has scholarship money available to assist beginning (more or less) organ students with the cost of lessons. PLEASE - somebody apply! We'd love to give the money away.   David Baker, Dean MVAGO    
(back) Subject: Re: TWO OR THREE MANUALS? Johannus Impressions by Del Case From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 10:55:24 EST     --part1_14c.1d217b0d.2ba749ec_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   And Johannus still lets price drive in spite of all the rhetoric.   Consoles although improved still fall apart and not everyone has parts to replace everything is spite of advertising moxie.   Go play them ALL and don't buy used---   dale   --part1_14c.1d217b0d.2ba749ec_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">And Johannus still lets price drive in spite of = all=3D20=3D the rhetoric.<BR> <BR> Consoles although improved still fall apart<BR> and not everyone has parts to replace everything is spite of advertising = mox=3D ie.<BR> <BR> Go play them ALL and don't buy used---<BR> <BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_14c.1d217b0d.2ba749ec_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Why not budget home instruments? From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 12:43:32 -0500   At 02:03 PM 3/16/2003 -0500, you wrote: >Vern Jones said: > > What I'm trying to say, is if they turned out an instrument for $10K = to > > $15K, would you buy it? > >WHY NOT ?? > >There _is_ a market for $10k to $15k cars. They don't have Corinthian >leather >seats nor genuine wood panelling, but they get you where you need to go = in >reasonable comfort. Not everyone can afford a Takoma or a BMW, or for = that >matter, even wants one. > >Considering that many organists content themselves with an ancient used >electric organ for practice (toasters), why not? Why not spend only $10k = for >an insturment with modern sound technology even if the console is only >particle board with stop tabs instead of moving drawknobs - as long as it >meets AGO specs? That as opposed to $30k to $60k, sure! Anyone willing = to >practice on granny's old Balwin or Conn is certainly not a likely >candidate to >buy a custom organ. A decent sounding, affordable practice organ, = though, >might be attractive to them. > >The question remains, why can't dealers in the US market offer a decent = low >budget instrument as the Europeans seem to be able to for their markets, >especially given the cheap price of technology? The Europeans have = overhead >costs to pay, also, and need to make a living, too. > >tlw > Tommy,   There is product out there at $10,000 (USD).   The following manufacturers have them   Ahlborn-Galanti -model SL 250 (a nice classical sounding organ, which = can be voiced) Johannus - Opus line, maybe even the whole line for under $10,000 Church Organ Systems (Viscount) - Models 401, 402 etc. Rodgers 527 ? - I don't know about this one, but probably retails for around $10,000 in the U.S. Hammond (Content) - 1 or 2 models   If purchsed new, they should come with a warranty.   BUT, I think I know where this is going,   Why can't we get a decent looking, non-budget electronic organ that sounds =   like a $50,000 for $10,000.   Well, let's go in business together. You put up a million dollars, and I will get the design and production going, and we will produce 250 of them. Do you think this is plausible?   It seems those who whine about the cost of these things are not in the business, don't want to risk their own money, and at the end of the daywouldn't even buy one. They would rather buy something 20 years old = for $2,000.   My guess is that none of the manufacturers make money on the entry level models. Hence, budget consoles, budget keyboards, stop controls, limited hardware, cheap audio systems etc. The other problem for manufacturers is =   the economies of scale, is not so great. My guess is that even the best selling model in the world is only manufacturered in quantities of 500 per =   year or less. The largest manufacturer only makes about 3,000 organs per year, and that would be all models combined.   Arie V.        
(back) Subject: Re: T.C. Lewis From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 07:25:32 +1200   > Yes, Southwark is a dramatic and brilliant instrument, although I believe >it has been through some alterations and an attempted return to its original >state. If one sits in the right location, it is truly thrilling.   With all due respect, I feel that H&H's restoration at Southwark was more than just an "attempted return to its original state." The work done is compellingly good and, unlike some other great organ work of theirs of the past, there was no attempt to impose an H&H flavour to the instrument.   > Another fine Lewis instrument resides at the Kelvingrove Art Gallery, >enjoying much better placement, speaking from its balcony into a great >central hall, with reverberant galleries serving as acoustically coupled >extensions.   Yes, a wonderful organ. I played that for a couple of hours. Different = from Southwark, not least in hacing two wind pressures, where all of Southwark = is on just the one.   Ross > >Sebastian M. Gluck      
(back) Subject: Re: TWO OR THREE MANUALS? Johannus Impressions by Del Case From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:06:41 -0500   At 06:06 AM 3/17/2003 -0800, you wrote:   > Hi All, > >I have been in negotiations with my local Johannus dealer for about a = year >now and so have "hands on" experience with the 2002 and 2003 models. This =   >includes the smallest and cheapest Opus 5 right up to a custom 4 manual >Monarke. Prior to this I have 30 years experience buying 5 Allens, most = of >them top of the line 3 manuals ... including the R370. > >This is my only real exposure to Johannus so I can not comment directly = on >the instrument that Del has played. I do not doubt for a second, though, >his evaluation about the console / keyboard quality. The sound is >something that is too variable to comment on since it is soooooo = dependent >on the voicer / installation. > >I can say, that Johannus made a very, very poor decision when they first >tried to "crack" the US market ... and it has haunted them ever since. >They simply thought price was everything so went the route of providing >what they thought was value. Good sound at a rock bottom price. Console >considerations were a low priority as per the Euro - tastes and that's >where they cut costs. > >Johannus learned their lesson and has absolutely changed with a = vengeance. >I know from first hand experience that their tonal work and console >construction are vastly superior to their first budget offerings. = Johannus >can and does build instruments with a wide choice of keyboards (all will >be Laukoff (spelling) from now on), several types of moving draw-knobs, >and very solid, you name the wood consoles. They also let the customer >make stop changes (to a degree) at a modest cost. > >Johannus has absolutely the largest range of instruments for the various >schools of organ building. English, French, German, Dutch and American >(which is still undergoing tonal refinement). Except for the custom >Monarke, there are 2 complete sets of samples (Intonations) per stop, = each >being totally independent. Johannus has 1400 complete ranks of samples = FAR >Greater than any other manufacturer. > >I absolutely recommend that anyone with a negative opinion of Johannus, >based upon what they did in the past, go give the current models a look >and listen. > >I did, last year, and am happy I did. Johannus is the "big gun" among >Euro-brands for reasons that will become apparent when you get to know >their instruments. > >Matt   Matt and list,   For anybody interested, on the keyboardtrader, there is a "BRAND NEW" American Classic Johannus for sale, for below dealer cost. It is less = than a year old, and this is the organ that Johannus is pegging it's prosperity =   in the U.S. on. Exactly what is going on here I don't know, but it seems there is less demand for this so-called wonderful organ than anticipated. My guess is if this is a hot item, there is no need to sell it at less than dealer cost. They are asking $42,000. Retail is supposed =   to be $95,000.   Although Johannus has made improvements, I doubt very much that they are = as durable as say an Allen organ, or even Rodgers. I guess time will tell. There are quite a number of older Johannus organs I service, in Southern Ontario, and most of them are just not good organs. I sold one, = a new one about 5 years ago, and it was poor quality and poor sounding as well. The internal speakers were about as cheap as they get, the external =   speakers, sounded even worse, but had a totally different character. I eneded up selling it at a loss, over the phone.   Even the Rembrandt, which is basically marketed for North America, is designed from a bean-counter, marketing point of view. If some manufacturer comes out with a drawstop organ of 50 stops, you can be sure that Johannus comes out with a 60 stop organ that costs less. Only the Monarke designed organs, are really designed for a musical point of view, and then of course, they cost a lot more.   I have been reading a German Forum about impressions from the Frankfurt Fair. A number of times it was commented that the new Johannus organs just didn't sound good, and they blamed it mostly on poor speaker quality.   It is interesting too, that no matter how the latest and greatest the new Johannus organs sound according to their apologists, other manufacturers are selling well in Holland too.   Just my piece............   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Arie, Johannus and the Frankfurt Fair From: "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 13:14:58 -0800 (PST)   --0-760902643-1047935698=3D:66204 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii     Hi Arie,   Thanks for the feedback. I will try to find the site you mention to see = the organ listed. As I said in my post this is really the first "hands on" = I've had with the Johannus. My dealer routinely replaces all the Johannus = speakers so I have not heard the larger Rembrandts with factory issues. = Also I brought some of my own speakers when I auditioned the various stops = ... since I lost faith with factory issues a long time ago !!   My dealer, who is NOT exclusively a Johannus dealer spoke to me for 2 = hours last night, reporting on what he found at the Frankfurt fair. = Because of the nutty setup near a DJ along with Allen and Rodgers etc. he = said he could not hear the new QUAD sampling that Johannus unveiled. He = also heard some German made speakers which he is going to use. You are = right on the money with your speaker assessments, I'm sure.   Now for the shocker .... if you haven't heard it already. The absolute = BEST organ was not at the show but accross the street in the Marriot. = Seems there is a German engineer building organs (sort of like super duper = Bob Walker) that absolutely put everyone to shame. Construction, samples = etc. were the best my dealer ever encountered. This guy is known and = respected by Johannus and everyone else. He has produced only for the = German market todate and does not want to get involved with Exporting = hassles etc.   I posted an email from my dealer a few days ago (at least I tried to) with = his name number etc. I hope you got it. He mentions this organ and is = looking for someone to partner with to get them into this country. The = only drawback, of course, is what happens when this guy passes on ... I = wonder the same about Bob Walker.   If you or anyone else is interested email me off list and I will send you = Ted's contact info.   Matt Mattcinnj@yahoo.com           --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! --0-760902643-1047935698=3D:66204 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <P>Hi Arie,</P> <P>Thanks for the feedback. I will try to find the site you mention to see = the organ listed. As I said in my post this is really the first "hands on" = I've had with the Johannus. My dealer&nbsp; routinely replaces all the = Johannus speakers so I have not heard the larger Rembrandts with factory = issues. Also I brought some of my own speakers when I auditioned the = various stops ... since I lost faith with factory issues a long time ago = !!</P> <P>My dealer, who is NOT exclusively a Johannus dealer&nbsp;spoke to me = for 2 hours last night, reporting on what he found at the Frankfurt fair. = Because of the nutty setup near a DJ along with Allen and Rodgers etc. he = said he could not hear the new QUAD sampling that Johannus unveiled. He = also heard some German made speakers which he is going to use. You are = right on the money with your speaker assessments, I'm sure.</P> <P>Now for the shocker .... if you haven't heard it already. The = absolute&nbsp;BEST organ was not at the show but accross the street in the = Marriot. Seems there is a German&nbsp;engineer building organs (sort of = like super duper Bob Walker) that absolutely put everyone to shame. = Construction, samples etc. were the best my dealer ever encountered. This = guy is known and respected by Johannus and everyone else. He has produced = only for the German market todate and does not want to get involved with = Exporting hassles etc. </P> <P>I posted an email from my dealer a few days ago (at least I tried to) = with his name number etc. I hope you got it. He mentions this organ and is = looking for someone to partner with to get them into this country. The = only drawback, of course, is what happens when this guy passes on ... I = wonder the same about Bob Walker.</P> <P>If you or anyone else is interested email me off list and I will send = you Ted's contact info.</P> <P>Matt&nbsp;&nbsp; <A = href=3D"mailto:Mattcinnj@yahoo.com">Mattcinnj@yahoo.com</A></P><BR><BR><p><= br><hr size=3D1>Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://rd.yahoo.com/platinum/evt=3D8162/*http://platinum.yahoo.com/= splash.html">Yahoo! Platinum</a> - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, <a = href=3D"http://rd.yahoo.com/platinum/evt=3D8162/*http://platinum.yahoo.com/= splash.html">live on your desktop</a>! --0-760902643-1047935698=3D:66204--  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #3546 - 03/16/03 From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 21:20:41 +0000   No Colin. I disagree. Lewis was a good builder but not better than Willis (Father). Have you played Haverstock Hill? St Benet Fink's Tottenham? and others - Oxford Town Hall and so on. We had a 3 manual Lewis in St Mary's Parish Church at Harrow - and it was good, but not as good as the 4 manual =   Harrison in Speech Room. The 3 manual Walker in the school chapel was not = a great instrument - but it was O.K. Have you played the Hill organ in All Hallow's London Wall? Small 2 manual. Pure Gold. The Walker at Romsey = Abbey? There are other great builders. I have a lot of work on hand at the moment =   so I can't go into more detail or greater length ("Thank God" do I hear?) but I cannot allow your assertions to pass without opposition! John www.johnfoss.gr         _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3D3963    
(back) Subject: RE: Easter Vocal Solo Search From: "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 14:40:44 -0800   Both "Art Thou the Christ?" (Geoffrey O'Hara) and Gounod's "O Divine Redeemer" are included in "52 Sacred Songs You Like to Sing" available = from Schirmer/Leonard.   Should be able to order on-line through J.W. Pepper.   Regards,   Mark S. Towne Las Vegas, NV   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of quilisma@socal.rr.com Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 10:21 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Easter Vocal Solo Search     "O grant me pardon and remember not my sins" ... more appropriate for Lent, I'd think ...   Cheers,   Bud   ProOrgo53@aol.com wrote: > > Has anyone heard or used O DIVINE REDEEMER (Gounod) for Easter? > > Dale Rider > Independence, MO     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Free organ lessons From: "TommyLee Whitlock" <tommylee@whitlock.org> Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 17:44:23 -0500   > The Merrimack Valley (Massachusetts) AGO Chapter has scholarship money > available to assist beginning (more or less) organ students with the > cost of lessons. PLEASE - somebody apply! We'd love to give the > money away.   In the DC area there is the Potomac Organ Institute sponsored by the three = AGO chapters in the DC metropolitan area which also offers 1 year of free = organ lessons to qualified beginning students. The POI has been doing this for = at least 5 years already.   The qualifications are that the applicant have keyboard skills and wishes = to learn the organ.   If you know someone in the DC area who may be interested, contact any of = the three DC area AGO chapters, those being The Potomac Chapter, The DC = Chapter or the Northern Virginia Chapter. Age doesn't matter.   Cheers, Tommy Lee Whitlock