PipeChat Digest #3578 - Saturday, March 29, 2003
 
RE: Preparing a stop
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: British organ builders of influence
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: British organ builders of influence
  by "alantaylor" <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk>
Re: British organ builders of influence
  by <Chicaleee@aol.com>
RE: Preparing a stop
  by "Randy Morrison" <rwmorrison@comcast.net>
Re: S. S. Wesley & Mendelssohn??
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Preparing a stop-what difference does it make?
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Preparing a stop From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 05:35:15 -0500   I say it's not normal practice but it happens with great frequency both = now and in the past. It all goes back to the contract. If there was something unclear about the description of "prepared" the question should have been asked, the issue addressed and possibly the figures or description = adjusted accordingly before signing. Never sign a contract produced by another = party until you feel confident enough to think "this is OUR contract".   What I want to know is: IS THIS NORMAL PRACTICE TO LEAVE OUT THE = SLIDERS???        
(back) Subject: Re: British organ builders of influence From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 11:18:42 -0000   I have indeed worn my kilt at the console - usually when playing for a = wedding that I'm also a guest at. The first time was very tricky as I suddenly realised I couldn't see my = feet! But otherwise it's fine, apart from the fact that the brogue shoes are a bit wider than those I normally = wear for playing!   Best wishes   Andrew   On 29 Mar 2003 at 14:47, Ross & Lynda Wards wrote:   >Is that what they call them in the Scottish Highlands?   Good heavens, no!!!! The kilt is the kilt, very different from the Greek thingie, not least in that it is not worn with tights, and preferably not with any kind of underwear at all. The latter is the comfortable way.   (Thinks - how can I make this post in any way relevant to PipeChat? Ah yes - anyone worn the kilt when at the console?)   Ross     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: British organ builders of influence From: "alantaylor" <alantaylor@v21mail.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 12:53:30 -0000   John is being too modest yet again. I happen to know he was in the same class as Byron, and would often take him home for tea. Byron last book = was called "John, Me and The Peachey Stone"   Alan London   ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>   > Sorry if this is "off topic" - but I couldn't leave Byron undefended. I did, > after all, go to the same school as him, though admittedly a couple of years > later, and have sat on the Peachey Stone - from where the Lewis organ in St > Mary's Parish Church, Harrow on the Hill can be heard! > John Foss > > www.johnfoss.gr > > > > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: British organ builders of influence From: <Chicaleee@aol.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 08:20:15 EST     --part1_79.d95832a.2bb6f78f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   That's why I wear slacks whenever I am playing. Either the dress was too long and I could not see my feet, or it was too short and kept slipping up =   higher and higher. Without the privacy rail, it is just more convenient = to wear slacks, and I am much more comfortable. Lee   --part1_79.d95832a.2bb6f78f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#400040" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">That's why I wear slacks = whenever I=3D am playing.&nbsp; Either the dress was too long and I could not see my = feet=3D , or it was too short and kept slipping up higher and higher.&nbsp; = Without=3D20=3D the privacy rail, it is just more convenient to wear slacks, and I am much = m=3D ore comfortable.&nbsp; Lee</FONT></HTML>   --part1_79.d95832a.2bb6f78f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: RE: Preparing a stop From: "Randy Morrison" <rwmorrison@comcast.net> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:03:25 -0500   I think it is normal practice. The windchest has the space allowed for, as does the console. If all you had to do was purchase the pipes, why not do = it in the first place.   Randy Morrison   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Andrew Mead Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 5:35 AM To: PipeChat Subject: RE: Preparing a stop     I say it's not normal practice but it happens with great frequency both = now and in the past. It all goes back to the contract. If there was something unclear about the description of "prepared" the question should have been asked, the issue addressed and possibly the figures or description = adjusted accordingly before signing. Never sign a contract produced by another = party until you feel confident enough to think "this is OUR contract".   What I want to know is: IS THIS NORMAL PRACTICE TO LEAVE OUT THE = SLIDERS???         "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: S. S. Wesley & Mendelssohn?? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:02:35 -0600       MARAUDER wrote:   > Permit me to seek some help. I'm preparing the Samuel Sebastian = Wesley >wonderful organ work Introduction and Fugue in C# minor as opener for a >program 27 April and have begun to wonder to what extent, if any, Wesley = was >ever in meaningful contact with Mendelssohn during the latter's visits in >England. > There was certainly some contact between Mendelssohn and Wesley when the Mendelssohn was in London. Mendelssohn attended the last of a series of organ recitals given by Wesley on the organ of Christ Church, Newgate, and Wesley's sister Eliza (also a well known organist in her day) was the page turner for at least one of Mendelssohn's recitals. They certainly seem to have known each other socially, but it is difficult to say how "meaningful" the contact between them was.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Preparing a stop-what difference does it make? From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2003 09:15:11 -0600   Jeff White wrote: > This is directed to all American builders on the list:   <snip> > I would like to know how YOU define a "prepared stop".   <snip>   > What ISN'T there is the slider   <snip>   > IS THIS NORMAL PRACTICE TO LEAVE OUT THE SLIDERS??? The meaning of the word "Preparation" is going to run the gamut from nothing more than an additional blank tablet on the console to everything but the pipes. It just depends upon the original builder and the contract.   It's pointless to be getting all worked up about this because the amount of work needing to be done in order to install any missing ranks should have been INVESTIGATED by whoever's doing the work LONG BEFORE agreeing to do it.   Hopefully, you didn't tell someone "Everything's there; all you have to do is just drop in the pipes", since I rather doubt you're really technically qualified to make that determination.   That's the builder's job.   That's why he/she/they/it makes the big bucks!   If he didn't bother to find out for himself, then:   Too bad.   So sad.   He'll be doing a LOT of work for free, won't he?   Been there.   Done that.   Wouldn't want to be him.   Sorry to sound so sarcastic, but whenever any project of this nature is done, a thorough investigation of what needs to be done needs to be made so that the scope and costs of a project can be accurately determined. If this wasn't done by whoever's helping you with these additions, then I'd have to say they're not especially competent and they'll have to learn to do so from now on the hard way in this instance.   > Can you hear the frustration in my tone? Especially when the word I get > from those in the know was that they were told all they had to do was > install the pipes. MY expectation would have been just that: all = that's > left is the pipework to install.   Is that DOCUMENTED? If so, maybe you can go back on the original builder in that case, but if not, I'd say you're SOL.   Good luck!   Faithfully,   G.A. -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO SCHNEIDER PIPE ORGANS, Inc. Pipe Organ Builders 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (217) 944-2527 FAX mailto:arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL mailto:arp@starband.net SHOP SATELLITE EMAIL mailto:arpschneider@starband.net HOME OFFICE EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com WEB PAGE URL