PipeChat Digest #3645 - Friday, May 2, 2003
 
Either/Or Organs - Clarification
  by <Kzimmer0817@aol.com>
Re: Either/Or Organs - Clarification
  by <Hell-Felix@t-online.de>
Re: Either/Or Organs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Either/Or Organs - Clarification
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Different pitches (Was: Hello All!)
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Recital programme - 6th May 2003
  by "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk>
Re: Hello to everybody
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: Hello to everybody
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
RE: Hello All!
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
RE: Westminster Organs
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Re: Other Pipe Organ Shows
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
Re: tracker extension
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com>
Re: Either/Or Organs
  by "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com>
 

(back) Subject: Either/Or Organs - Clarification From: <Kzimmer0817@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 08:22:14 EDT     --part1_165.1f37ea45.2be3bcf6_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Guys, and Glenda,   I think I failed to adequately communicate my question. My wife says I = don't communicate well, so let me try to restate it.   I'm not talking about some of the tracker organs in which a rank is "borrowed" by another division by use of check valves. I'm talking about tracker organs which have a single windchest, but the note channels for = the two manuals run between each other. The first several channels in the = chest might be Man I C, Man II C, Man I C#, Man II C#, Man I D, Man II D, etc. = The top board, toe board, and slider are grooved such that pulling the slider = one direction from neutral allows the rank to be played from manual I, pulling = it the other direction from neutral allows the same rank to be played from manual II. The rank cannot be played from both manuals simultaneously = unless the intermanual coupler is employed. There may be 10 ranks, but 8 or all = of these may be played from EITHER Manual I OR Manual II, but NOT BOTH (caps = for emphasis, not shouting).   A brief discussion of this concept can be found on these two websites:   http://galileo.spaceports.com/~ppow/ (or) http://www.mlbigelow.com   So my real questions are more from a practical standpoint. . .   1. Have any of you played an organ utilizing this concept? 2. If so, once you got used to it, did you find it lacking? 3. Did you find that the organ was much more versatile than would have = been a tracker of the same number of ranks but with their ranks confined to a particular division?   Respectfully, Keith   --part1_165.1f37ea45.2be3bcf6_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Guys, and Glenda,<BR> <BR> I think I failed to adequately communicate my question.&nbsp; My wife says = I=3D don't communicate well, so let me try to restate it.<BR> <BR> I'm not talking about some of the tracker organs in which a rank is = "borrowe=3D d" by another division by use of check valves.&nbsp; I'm talking about = track=3D er organs which have a single windchest, but the note channels for the two = m=3D anuals run between each other.&nbsp; The first several channels in the = chest=3D might be Man I C, Man II C, Man I C#, Man II C#, Man I D, Man II D, = etc.&nb=3D sp; The top board, toe board, and slider are grooved such that pulling the = s=3D lider one direction from neutral allows the rank to be played from manual = I,=3D pulling it the other direction from neutral allows the same rank to be = play=3D ed from manual II.&nbsp; The rank cannot be played from both manuals = simulta=3D neously unless the intermanual coupler is employed.&nbsp; There may be 10 = ra=3D nks, but 8 or all of these may be played from EITHER Manual I OR Manual = II,=3D20=3D but NOT BOTH (caps for emphasis, not shouting).<BR> <BR> A brief discussion of this concept can be found on these two websites:<BR> <BR> http://galileo.spaceports.com/~ppow/ (or) http://www.mlbigelow.com<BR> <BR> So my real questions are more from a practical standpoint. . .<BR> <BR> 1.&nbsp; Have any of you played an organ utilizing this concept?<BR> 2.&nbsp; If so, once you got used to it, did you find it lacking?<BR> 3.&nbsp; Did you find that the organ was much more versatile than would = have=3D been a tracker of the same number of ranks but with their ranks confined = to=3D a particular division?<BR> <BR> Respectfully,<BR> Keith</FONT></HTML>   --part1_165.1f37ea45.2be3bcf6_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Either/Or Organs - Clarification From: <Hell-Felix@t-online.de> Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 15:33:58 +0200 (CEST)   Dear Mr. Speller, Dear Mr. Zimmer, dear listmembers,   First, I have to apologize to Mr. Speller for being not sufficiant precise. Of course, my statement, that tracker organs don't have unifications is not correct. I should have said, that "normally" (usually, generally), trackers don't have these features, if you have tracker key and tracker stop action. Any kind of unification features on a tracker, is, as to my very young knowledge, the exemption, independent, what kind of technique is used.   Second, reading Mr. Zimmers question again, I still think, that what he dscribes is what we call in Germany "Wechselschleifen". From all great division stops at the organ which I mentioned before I had five ones available, which I had also available for use on the pedal division. But, as said before, either/or. If, as an example, the 16'-bourdon was drawn at the great, and I would draw now the same 16'-bourdon on the pedal, the great 16'-bourdon-dawknob would slide in again. That is, what the "Wechselschleifen" are about. I don't know the exact translation into English, but I would translate it as "Alternating chests". Does that make sence?   As to the second question of Mr. Zimmer: it is immense helpful in regard of the versatility of a tracker organ. For me, in daily use, it was not irritating at all.   Just my short two-cents comment, between organ lesson and organ class.   Felix       Kzimmer0817@aol.com schrieb: > Guys, and Glenda, > > I think I failed to adequately communicate my question. > My wife says I don't > communicate well, so let me try to restate it. > > I'm not talking about some of the tracker organs in which > a rank is > "borrowed" by another division by use of check valves. > I'm talking about > tracker organs which have a single windchest, but the > note channels for the > two manuals run between each other. The first several > channels in the chest > might be Man I C, Man II C, Man I C#, Man II C#, Man I D, > Man II D, etc. The > top board, toe board, and slider are grooved such that > pulling the slider one > direction from neutral allows the rank to be played from > manual I, pulling it > the other direction from neutral allows the same rank to > be played from > manual II. The rank cannot be played from both manuals > simultaneously unless > the intermanual coupler is employed. There may be 10 > ranks, but 8 or all of > these may be played from EITHER Manual I OR Manual II, > but NOT BOTH (caps for > emphasis, not shouting). > > A brief discussion of this concept can be found on these > two websites: > > http://galileo.spaceports.com/~ppow/ (or) > http://www.mlbigelow.com > > So my real questions are more from a practical > standpoint. . . > > 1. Have any of you played an organ utilizing this > concept? > 2. If so, once you got used to it, did you find it > lacking? > 3. Did you find that the organ was much more versatile > than would have been > a tracker of the same number of ranks but with their > ranks confined to a > particular division? > > Respectfully, > Keith >  
(back) Subject: Re: Either/Or Organs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:00:36 EDT   The major consideration for doing this successfully is adequate = channel and pallet size. We are currently faced with a shared-channel instrument = in which the Hauptwerk and Pedal are on the same chest, with hopelessly = narrow channels and double pallets. The laws of physics will prevent this organ from ever being in tune, unless a new chest and action are made. There is a very fine mechanical action instrument in which the 16' = manual reed is shared, and the two pallets produce completely different attacks = and tunings. These ideas are fine, and go back centuries, but one MUST over-engineer them for success.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City  
(back) Subject: Re: Either/Or Organs - Clarification From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 11:54:06 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001A_01C310A1.88A06D20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear List, Glenda, Bruce, and Miles, Molly, and Degui,   By the grace of the Godess, which passeth all understanding, I will be =3D ordering a house Organ sometime in June, built by a reputable British =3D builder! (They do exist!!) Starting with my experiences at Oberlin in =3D the 50s!, and significant additions to my collected wisdom since then, =3D my needs and wants in such an instrument have remained very simple. 1) There was a student at Oberlin, well advanced as a player, who often = =3D said: "I can play all day on a beautiful 8' Principal, and never tire, =3D or it could be an equally beautiful 8' Flute." He once played the Bach A = =3D Minor P&F just that way in Organ class, and it was a real winner, =3D believe it or not. Of course, the elegant music had to do with it, but =3D also the fine 8' Principal, with some enlargement in the treble, so that = =3D the melodic line of the top voice became extra expressive. Give me that = =3D Principal at home, and a few variety stops around it, and I am set. 2) At Oberlin, as Bud well knows, while I was there, a couple of =3D Flentrop single manual Organs of six or seven stops were delivered, with = =3D only a pull-down Pedal. There was no 8' Principal, but a very lovely 4' = =3D in the simple case (flamed copper, for what it is worth). I remember =3D Fenner admonishing us to spend time on those instruments, because we =3D could learn so much about touch. Being fairly short then, I found the =3D high bench and long way to the Pedals rather troublesome. I have not got = =3D any taller since then! But, playing on the manuals was really a delight.   For me, something like this: Great: 8' Principal (hopefully), 8' Flute, = =3D common bass with the Principal, with possibly 4' "helpers" for the =3D bottom octave of the Principal. 4' Principal. Positif: 8' & 4' Flutes, = =3D 2' Principal. Pedal, 16' Bourdon. Usual couplers. When reputable English = =3D builder and I talked about this some time ago, we thought it would be =3D healthy to provide *slightly* larger pallets than usual to give a bit =3D more pluck, like what would be found on a larger instrument. Slightly =3D more pain for slightly more gain.   For me, NO gadgetry, thank you. The stops can stay put where they are, =3D and I will be totally happy. The variety sought by the gadgets is, I =3D believe, illusory. The stops are still the same - in addition to which, = =3D that 4' Principal voiced and scaled for its place in the first manual =3D becomes a misfit when it slithers over to the second manual. I have some = =3D sympathy with these ideas, when one is accompanying a choir in church, =3D although I would get totally confused making use of them, but despite =3D the distinct advantages with the IRS to actually playing church in my =3D music room on Sundays, I'll give it a pass.   Just my developing thoughts. Comments welcome, other than the addition =3D of digital stops!!   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Kzimmer0817@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Cc: Cremona502@cs.com=3D20 Sent: Friday, May 02, 2003 8:22 AM Subject: Either/Or Organs - Clarification     Guys, and Glenda,   I think I failed to adequately communicate my question. My wife says = =3D I don't communicate well, so let me try to restate it.   I'm not talking about some of the tracker organs in which a rank is =3D "borrowed" by another division by use of check valves. I'm talking =3D about tracker organs which have a single windchest, but the note =3D channels for the two manuals run between each other. The first several = =3D channels in the chest might be Man I C, Man II C, Man I C#, Man II C#, =3D Man I D, Man II D, etc. The top board, toe board, and slider are =3D grooved such that pulling the slider one direction from neutral allows =3D the rank to be played from manual I, pulling it the other direction from = =3D neutral allows the same rank to be played from manual II. The rank =3D cannot be played from both manuals simultaneously unless the intermanual = =3D coupler is employed. There may be 10 ranks, but 8 or all of these may =3D be played from EITHER Manual I OR Manual II, but NOT BOTH (caps for =3D emphasis, not shouting).   A brief discussion of this concept can be found on these two websites:   http://galileo.spaceports.com/~ppow/ (or) http://www.mlbigelow.com   So my real questions are more from a practical standpoint. . .   1. Have any of you played an organ utilizing this concept? 2. If so, once you got used to it, did you find it lacking? 3. Did you find that the organ was much more versatile than would =3D have been a tracker of the same number of ranks but with their ranks =3D confined to a particular division?   Respectfully, Keith ------=3D_NextPart_000_001A_01C310A1.88A06D20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1141" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear List, Glenda, Bruce, =3D and&nbsp;Miles, Molly,=3D20 and Degui,</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>By the grace of the Godess, which =3D passeth all=3D20 understanding, I will be ordering a house&nbsp;Organ sometime in June, =3D built by=3D20 a reputable British builder! (They do&nbsp;exist!!) &nbsp;Starting with = =3D my=3D20 experiences at Oberlin in the 50s!, and&nbsp;significant additions to my = =3D   collected wisdom since then, my needs and wants in such an instrument =3D have=3D20 remained very simple.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>1) There was a student&nbsp;at = Oberlin, =3D well=3D20 advanced as a player, who often said: "I can play all day on a beautiful = =3D 8'=3D20 Principal, and never tire, or it could&nbsp;be an equally beautiful 8' =3D Flute."=3D20 He once played the Bach A Minor P&amp;F just that way in Organ class, =3D and it was=3D20 a real winner, believe it or not. Of course, the elegant music had to do = =3D with=3D20 it, but also the fine 8' Principal, with some enlargement in the treble, = =3D so that=3D20 the melodic line of the top voice became extra expressive. Give me = that=3D20 Principal at home, and a few variety stops around it, and I am =3D set.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>2)&nbsp; At Oberlin, as Bud well = knows, =3D while I was=3D20 there, a couple of Flentrop single manual Organs of six or seven stops =3D were=3D20 delivered, with only a pull-down Pedal. There was no 8' Principal, but a = =3D very=3D20 lovely 4' in the simple case (flamed copper, for what it is worth). I =3D remember=3D20 Fenner admonishing us to spend time on those instruments, because we =3D could learn=3D20 so much about touch. Being fairly short then, I found the high bench and = =3D long=3D20 way to the Pedals rather troublesome. I have not got any taller since =3D then! But,=3D20 playing on the manuals was really a delight.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>For me, something like this: Great: = 8' =3D Principal=3D20 (hopefully), 8' Flute, common bass with the Principal, with possibly = 4'=3D20 "helpers" for the bottom octave of the Principal. 4' Principal.&nbsp; =3D Positif:=3D20 8' &amp; 4' Flutes, 2' Principal. Pedal, 16' Bourdon. Usual couplers. =3D When=3D20 reputable English builder and I talked about this some time ago, we =3D thought it=3D20 would be healthy to provide *slightly* larger pallets than usual to give = =3D a bit=3D20 more pluck, like what would be found on a larger instrument. Slightly =3D more pain=3D20 for slightly more gain.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>For me, NO gadgetry, thank you. The = =3D stops can stay=3D20 put where they are, and I will be totally happy. The variety sought by =3D the=3D20 gadgets is, I believe, illusory. The stops are still the same - in =3D addition to=3D20 which, that 4' Principal voiced and scaled for its place in the first =3D manual=3D20 becomes a misfit when it slithers over to the second manual. I have some = =3D   sympathy with these ideas, when one is accompanying a choir in church, =3D although=3D20 I would get totally confused making use of them, but despite the =3D distinct=3D20 advantages with the IRS to actually playing church in my music&nbsp;room = =3D on=3D20 Sundays, I'll give it a pass.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Just my developing thoughts. Comments = =3D welcome,=3D20 other than the addition of digital stops!!</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.mander-organs.com">www.mander-organs.com</A></FONT></D= =3D IV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DKzimmer0817@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Kzimmer0817@aol.com">Kzimmer0817@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =3D title=3D3DCremona502@cs.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Cremona502@cs.com">Cremona502@cs.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 02, 2003 8:22 = =3D AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Either/Or Organs = -=3D20 Clarification</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Guys, and Glenda,<BR><BR>I think I failed to =3D adequately=3D20 communicate my question.&nbsp; My wife says I don't communicate well, = =3D so let=3D20 me try to restate it.<BR><BR>I'm not talking about some of the tracker = =3D organs=3D20 in which a rank is "borrowed" by another division by use of check=3D20 valves.&nbsp; I'm talking about tracker organs which have a single =3D windchest,=3D20 but the note channels for the two manuals run between each =3D other.&nbsp; The=3D20 first several channels in the chest might be Man I C, Man II C, Man I = =3D C#, Man=3D20 II C#, Man I D, Man II D, etc.&nbsp; The top board, toe board, and =3D slider are=3D20 grooved such that pulling the slider one direction from neutral allows = =3D the=3D20 rank to be played from manual I, pulling it the other direction from =3D neutral=3D20 allows the same rank to be played from manual II.&nbsp; The rank =3D cannot be=3D20 played from both manuals simultaneously unless the intermanual coupler = =3D is=3D20 employed.&nbsp; There may be 10 ranks, but 8 or all of these may be =3D played=3D20 from EITHER Manual I OR Manual II, but NOT BOTH (caps for emphasis, =3D not=3D20 shouting).<BR><BR>A brief discussion of this concept can be found on =3D these two=3D20 websites:<BR><BR>http://galileo.spaceports.com/~ppow/ (or)=3D20 http://www.mlbigelow.com<BR><BR>So my real questions are more from a =3D practical=3D20 standpoint. . .<BR><BR>1.&nbsp; Have any of you played an organ =3D utilizing this=3D20 concept?<BR>2.&nbsp; If so, once you got used to it, did you find = it=3D20 lacking?<BR>3.&nbsp; Did you find that the organ was much more =3D versatile than=3D20 would have been a tracker of the same number of ranks but with their =3D ranks=3D20 confined to a particular =3D division?<BR><BR>Respectfully,<BR>Keith</FONT>=3D20 </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_001A_01C310A1.88A06D20--      
(back) Subject: Re: Different pitches (Was: Hello All!) From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 08:59:22 -0700       > > Dear List: > > It would be my suspicion that the piece sounded warmer because of the > well-tempered tuning of the instrument.     I assume that by well-tempered you are NOT talking about equal = temperament, a distinction that many are still not aware of.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: Recital programme - 6th May 2003 From: "Andrew Caskie" <caskie@totalise.co.uk> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 17:27:57 +0100   Dear All,   In case any of you are in the vicinity, I'm doing a lunchtime recital at Sheffield Cathedral (4-man Copeman Hart digital) on Tuesday at 1.15pm. Admission is free!   1. Concert Overture No. 1 in C major (Alfred Hollins)   2. Angel-scene, from the opera "Hansel & Gretel" (Engelbert Humperdinck, = arr E Lemare)   3. Introduction, Passacaglia and Fugue in E flat minor (Healey Willan)   Best wishes,   Andrew Caskie    
(back) Subject: Re: Hello to everybody From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:26:51 -0700   >Mark Turnbull's message makes me wonder. > >Is there a list of other radio stations that broadcast organ music >as a part of their lineup aside from Pipedreams? >   Vassar College Independant Radio WVKR 91.3 FM in Poughkeepsie, NY covers south of Poughk. and areas South East, SouthWest. "Pipes 'n Pizzazz " Mondays 11am -noon. Eclectic mix of pipes TO and Classical , synths, e-orgs, and other "thingies" heavy on the theatre PO, light on the music. Since I am not a pro, i have my share of foibles on there! LOL But it is a lot of fun.   I understand we are now also streaming on the internet.   Yours truly spinning the discs,   John Vanderlee  
(back) Subject: Re: Hello to everybody From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:42:30 -0700   >>Mark Turnbull's message makes me wonder. >> >>Is there a list of other radio stations that broadcast organ music >>as a part of their lineup aside from Pipedreams? >> > >Vassar College Independant Radio WVKR 91.3 FM in Poughkeepsie, NY >covers south of Poughk. and areas South East,   Whoops... IndependEnt of course...   John V  
(back) Subject: RE: Hello All! From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 14:06:44 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Paul Emmons wrote   (SNIP) > I'll > never forget the one time I tried the transposer on an Allen for a hymn = in > the middle of a service. Big mistake-- I mean, like instant train = wreck! > My fingers suddenly didn't know where to go anymore. I don't feel like ever > touching that knob again. It's easier transposing the old-fashioned = way, > deliberately with the brain. (SNIP) > I'd be curious to know how you (and others who are familiar with such > experiences) manage to handle the confusion.   People who have a natural gift that is called "Absolutes Gehoer" in = German, literally translated "Absolute Hearing" face this problem. Their brain is "programmed" to remember the exact concert pitch (in our days the average = a' 440) in link with the key. When the instrument they play sounds with a different pitch (other tuning, or with the transposer) the confusion is awful. The Absolute Hearing is great for tuning or "giving the pitch" to a choir without a tuning fork- but certainly not for playing on different pitches. In my experince, pitch differences under 25 cents don't bother.   Cheers Andres (who gives the exact a' 440 without tuning fork and never could use a transposer too :) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.          
(back) Subject: RE: Westminster Organs From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 14:15:54 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   ----- Original Message ----- From: Shelley Culver <sec_oboe2002@excite.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 2:19 PM Subject: Westminster Organs     > The organs here spend a lot of time being out of tune. The chapel organ has many stops that cannot be used a lot of the time. It's the wacky = weather here, and lack of humidity control. We go from being really, really humid one day to having practically none the next. It's not good on any instrument. There are other problems too, with certain stops not working properly, or certain notes that don't sound. Overall, though, they're not bad.   At first: Welcome, Shelley. Wish you the best for your trip...   Is there a way to install a good air condition there that keeps a regular humidity and temperature in the room?- Otherwise you will need an advise = by a builder who has experience with organs in difficult climatic = environments, at least to get all these mech bugs out.   Yours Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Re: Other Pipe Organ Shows From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 13:59:59 EDT     --part1_27.3f4f8927.2be40c1f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Every Tuesday afternoon at 3p on BBC Channel two is a 1/2 hour pipe organ =   show. Just enter BBC on search and follow through. Great program. Every Friday evening at 9p is a one hour theatre pipe organ program from = the public service station in Perth, Australia. Someone from Australia will = help in locating the station for you. Best, Craig J.   --part1_27.3f4f8927.2be40c1f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial Cyr" LANG=3D3D"0"><B> Every Tuesday = afternoon at=3D20=3D 3p on BBC Channel two is a 1/2 hour pipe organ show. Just enter BBC on = searc=3D h and follow through. Great program.<BR> Every Friday evening at 9p is a one hour theatre pipe organ program from = th=3D e public service station in Perth, Australia. Someone from Australia will = he=3D lp in locating the station for you.<BR> Best,<BR> Craig J.</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_27.3f4f8927.2be40c1f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: tracker extension From: "John Foss" <harfo32@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 02 May 2003 19:07:39 +0000   We (being Grant, Degens and Bradbeer) put a couple of extensions on New College Oxford Pedal and Cranleigh College using two pallets for each pipe = - being large pipes this does not present a big problem - I expect other British builders of tracker instruments have also used this method. John Foss   www.johnfoss.gr         _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/junkmail    
(back) Subject: Re: Either/Or Organs From: "Bill Raty" <billious@billraty.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:23:48 -0700 (PDT)   I was fortunate to play a Bigelow practice instrument at BYU during a POE held in 2001. An interesting effect of the either/or mechanism as implemented on this instrument was you could only use a voice on a manual at a time due to the toggle setup of the slider. I believe it had 3 or 4 ranks, 3 of which were shared between manuals I and II.   On a typical EP/DE unit instrument you can draw a register on all the manuals it is exposed on. Of course on a unit register once a note is playing it is playing-- it isn't going to get louder, etc. On a instrument that has an inordinate amount of unit ranks, coupling manuals doesn't get you much other than sub or super coupling the unit ranks are expressed (here again a generalization that unit instruments usually express a rank at a different pitch than its 'home' division).   Aren't there other considerations that go into traditional design between divisions, i.e. pitch emphasis, etc., that would be lost on an either/or design?   Regards,   -Bill