PipeChat Digest #3652 - Monday, May 5, 2003
 
Re: Telephones and Temperaments
  by "Dick Meckstroth" <support@opensystemsorgans.com>
Re: Sibelius question (X-posted)
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Musicom system--long
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: LUDWIGTONE in Louisville
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Music for Mother's Day
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Comma
  by "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com>
Tornado
  by "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
IRC
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
Bach, meantone, sausage wrap, and Schmieder
  by <lindr@cch.com>
Ooops!
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Music for Mother's Day
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: RE.: LUDWIGTONE
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
Re: Music for Mother's Day
  by <Swedish5702@aol.com>
Ludwigtone
  by "GARY JENKINS" <gary.jenkins6@verizon.net>
Re: Tornado
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Telephones and Temperaments From: "Dick Meckstroth" <support@opensystemsorgans.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 05:44:13 -0400   I won't try to measure up to DesertBob in any way, but for reference:   http://nemesis.lonestar.org/reference/telecom/   One of the signalling documents includes the frequency matrix for DTMF. = 440 isn't there, but you can play Merrie Melodies on your touchpad. Another = has the standard dialtone frequencies. In the US, dialtone is two pitches, = one of which really is supposed to be 440.   Dick  
(back) Subject: Re: Sibelius question (X-posted) From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 07:37:15 EDT   In a message dated 5/5/03 1:33:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:   << Does anybody know where the V. and R. signs are in Sibelius 1.4, or how to create them? >>   Are you a member of the Sibelius discussion group at Yahoogroups? There = are many knowledgeable users there, as well as some folks who work for = Sibelius. The group is called the "sibelius-list@yahoogroups.com".   Richard  
(back) Subject: Musicom system--long From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 07:55:11 EDT     --part1_74.2dd21ecd.2be7ab1f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hello list-   I had the opportunity this past Friday to go to Murphy, NC, to hear and = play two organs based on the Musicom system. One of the instruments (First Baptist Church, Murphy, NC) is digital with 4 ranks of pipes augmenting = the Great division, and then to go hear the rebuilt 7 rank Moller pipe organ = with an additional 55 ranks of Msuicom at St. Andrew Lutheran Church, Andrews, = NC. In one word--amazing!   The organ at First Baptist was an Ahlborn-Galanti with 4 ranks of pipes = which was destroyed when lightning hit the church a year ago Easter. While = Musicom technically doesn't build organs, just the switching/control systems for = pipe and electronicorgans, as well as digital voices for organs, their North American rep, John Werner, from Detroit, built this organ using the = Musicom system and an existing organ console he had in his shop. He was formerly = a pipe organ technician, having worked for Moller for a number of years. So =   the organ is Musicom based, but not Musicom brand.   The strength of an organ that uses Musicom is that is unbeliveably clear. = If I understand it correctly, because of the physics involved in the sound recreation, harmonics don't get cancelled out and the whole ensemble sound = is much truer and clearer than organs which are sampled. However, some of = the individual voices are not necessarily as good as stops which are sampled. =   John Werner showed me this himself and was upfront about the strengths and weaknesses of the system. Sure there were = a couple of stops that I didn't like, but I think if one really tweaked the system, it could be made to completely lose the digital "twang" that was = on a couple of the stops. Musicom is much more voicable than any sampled = stops. I think the couple of reed stops that I didn't like were more due to the rank, rather than the system. I prefer a big, round Clarinet and the Clarinette there was more thin and bright. The same with the English = Horn. It's a good rank, but I would have chose one that wasn't as bright--it had = a touch or Orch. Oboe in it. Personal preferences, no big deal.   I was told, also, that there are two levels of their system. One is the regular system that is used by their major clients, such as Copeman-Hart = and Saville, and then the other more custom system, that is used by some pipe organ clients, such as Schantz. The second system uses more memory, which =   adds to the cost, but also to the clarity.   The second organ I played Friday, was a small unit Moller organ from 1928 that had to be rebuilt due to the organ chamber being flooded by a storm = and destroying the chestwork for the pipes. The organist at the church knew about Musicom from soneone in Atlanta, Georgia. He decided that when they =   rebuilt the organ he was going to enlarge it considerably, so they kept = all the pipework playing on the Great and Pedal divisions, as it was, and completed it with Musicom, plus the Swell was done completely in digital = and added a huge String division, patterned after Wannamaker's, with natural, sharp and flat ranks.   The voicing was much more along my taste of being very Romantic. The only =   thing that gives this organ away is that the organ has a 65 rank specification in a small church that only seats about 75 people. My mind knew that the sounds I was hearing just couldn't come from the small pipe chamber, but my ear was having a hard time telling what was pipe and what wasn't.   So that's my experience with Musicom. I was amazed. There was just the additional touch of realism with tuning and fluctuation that sampling just =   can't get. That's not to knock what Allen is doing or Bob Walker, or = anyone else. I've got a digitally sampled organ in my home, so I'm not against = it. I just think that I've seen the future of digital organs and I hope that = more people have a chance to hear an organ based on the Musicom system. You'll be blown away!   Monty Bennett Rock Hill, SC   --part1_74.2dd21ecd.2be7ab1f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Times New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0">Hello list-<BR> <BR> I had the opportunity this past Friday to go to Murphy, NC, to hear and = play=3D two organs based on the Musicom system.&nbsp; One of the instruments = (First=3D Baptist Church, Murphy, NC) is digital with 4 ranks of pipes augmenting = the=3D Great division, and then to go hear the rebuilt 7 rank Moller pipe organ = wi=3D th an additional 55 ranks of Msuicom at St. Andrew Lutheran Church, = Andrews,=3D NC.&nbsp; In one word--amazing!<BR> <BR> The organ at First Baptist was an Ahlborn-Galanti with 4 ranks of pipes = whic=3D h was destroyed when lightning hit the church a year ago Easter.&nbsp; = While=3D Musicom technically doesn't build organs, just the switching/control = system=3D s for pipe and electronicorgans, as well as digital voices for organs, = their=3D North American rep, John Werner, from Detroit, built this organ using the = M=3D usicom system and an existing organ console he had in his shop.&nbsp; He = was=3D formerly a pipe organ technician, having worked for Moller for a number = of=3D20=3D years.&nbsp; So the organ is Musicom based, but not Musicom brand.<BR> <BR> The strength of an organ that uses Musicom is that is unbeliveably = clear.&nb=3D sp; If I understand it correctly, because of the physics involved in the = sou=3D nd recreation, harmonics don't get cancelled out and the whole ensemble = soun=3D d is much truer and clearer than organs which are sampled.&nbsp; However, = so=3D me of the individual voices are not necessarily as good as stops which are = s=3D ampled.&nbsp; John Werner showed me this himself and was <BR> upfront about the strengths and weaknesses of the system.&nbsp; Sure there = w=3D ere a couple of stops that I didn't like, but I think if one really = tweaked=3D20=3D the system, it could be made to completely lose the digital "twang" that = was=3D on a couple of the stops.&nbsp; Musicom is much more voicable than any = samp=3D led stops.&nbsp; I think the couple of reed stops that I didn't like were = mo=3D re due to the rank, rather than the system.&nbsp; I prefer a big, round = Clar=3D inet and the Clarinette there was more thin and bright.&nbsp; The same = with=3D20=3D the English Horn.&nbsp; It's a good rank, but I would have chose one that = wa=3D sn't as bright--it had a touch or Orch. Oboe in it.&nbsp; Personal = preferenc=3D es, no big deal.<BR> <BR> I was told, also, that there are two levels of their system.&nbsp; One is = th=3D e regular system that is used by their major clients, such as Copeman-Hart = a=3D nd Saville, and then the other more custom system, that is used by some = pipe=3D organ clients, such as Schantz.&nbsp; The second system uses more memory, = w=3D hich adds to the cost, but also to the clarity.<BR> <BR> The second organ I played Friday, was a small unit Moller organ from 1928 = th=3D at had to be rebuilt due to the organ chamber being flooded by a storm and = d=3D estroying the chestwork for the pipes.&nbsp; The organist at the church = knew=3D about Musicom from soneone in Atlanta, Georgia.&nbsp; He decided that = when=3D20=3D they rebuilt the organ he was going to enlarge it considerably, so they = kept=3D all the pipework playing on the Great and Pedal divisions, as it was, and = c=3D ompleted it with Musicom, plus the Swell was done completely in digital = and=3D20=3D added a huge String division, patterned after Wannamaker's, with natural, = sh=3D arp and flat ranks.<BR> <BR> The voicing was much more along my taste of being very Romantic.&nbsp; The = o=3D nly thing that gives this organ away is that the organ has a 65 rank = specifi=3D cation in a small church that only seats about 75 people.&nbsp; My mind = knew=3D that the sounds I was hearing just couldn't come from the small pipe = chambe=3D r, but my ear was having a hard time telling what was pipe and what = wasn't.<=3D BR> <BR> So that's my experience with Musicom. I was amazed.&nbsp; There was just the=3D additional touch of realism with tuning and fluctuation that sampling = just=3D20=3D can't get.&nbsp; That's not to knock what Allen is doing or Bob Walker, or = a=3D nyone else.&nbsp; I've got a digitally sampled organ in my home, so I'm = not=3D20=3D against it.&nbsp; I just think that I've seen the future of digital organs = a=3D nd I hope that more people have a chance to hear an organ based on the = Music=3D om system.&nbsp; You'll be blown away!<BR> <BR> Monty Bennett<BR> Rock Hill, SC</FONT></HTML>   --part1_74.2dd21ecd.2be7ab1f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: LUDWIGTONE in Louisville From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:13:03 EDT     --part1_a2.366ed6c5.2be7af4f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/4/2003 11:49:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, arpschneider@starband.net writes:   > Which organ?   it was a practice organ.... dale   --part1_a2.366ed6c5.2be7af4f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 5/4/2003 11:49:08 PM Eastern = Dayl=3D ight Time, arpschneider@starband.net writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">Which organ?&nbsp; </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> it was a practice organ....<BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a2.366ed6c5.2be7af4f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for Mother's Day From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 08:17:03 EDT     --part1_1de.8410feb.2be7b03f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/4/2003 10:38:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nickgood@ix.netcom.com writes:   > Any interesting ideas for Mother's day. > >   Rhosymedre/Vaughn-Williams also known as "LOVELY" i believe---the perfect description of a mother or not. dale   --part1_1de.8410feb.2be7b03f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 5/4/2003 10:38:37 PM Eastern = Dayl=3D ight Time, nickgood@ix.netcom.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Times=3D New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0">Any interesting ideas for Mother's day.<BR> <BR> </BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" = style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff=3D fff" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> Rhosymedre/Vaughn-Williams also known as "LOVELY" i believe---the perfect = de=3D scription of a mother or not.<BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1de.8410feb.2be7b03f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Comma From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 09:55:26 -0400   Ok, enough concerning using the dial tone to tune! Any response to my question about a definition for "comma" in the context of temperaments?   Thanks.   David Baker    
(back) Subject: Tornado From: "danielwh" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:15:22 -0300   Just wondering if everyone is allright, I am watching CNN and they were saying that there is a Tornado warning for Little Rock, Praying for all the list members safty who might have been in the areas of the tornados and whom might still be in the ways of the ones forcast. Danielwh    
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 17:57:26 -0700   Pipechat live on IRC is now. Road map on Pipechat homepage.   Cheers,   Bud    
(back) Subject: Bach, meantone, sausage wrap, and Schmieder From: <lindr@cch.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:24:16 -0500             I find it troubulous that Bach's unparalleled youthful excursions, viz., Das Schlechttemperierte Klavier I und II were peremptorily seized from the attic by his envious and mean-spirited brother. They were briefly on the Braunschweiger black market but were yanked by Lowell Mason, who was displeased to find there were no chorale preludes therein. He tried to donate them to Forkel, Spitta, and Yale without success. My great-great-grandfather (who sang some excerpts from memory for Edison in tones so microtonal and at the same time quavery [and semi-quavery, it = must be admitted] that scholars have been unable to make sense of the muddle) inherited them in 1872, but no one has ever found the lock box that contains them. I have assigned BWV numbers to the 256 preludes and fugues just in case they show up one day.   RJ Lind     TubaMagna writes:     Just a couple of thoughts:   Das Wohltemperierte Klavier I Das Wohltemperierte Klavier II      
(back) Subject: Ooops! From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 02:28:03 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Silly me!   I just remembered that Flentrop had nothing to do with the restoration at Haarlem!   It was, of course, Marcussen of Denmark.   I was getting confused with Flentrop's recent superb restoration of the 1511 organ at Alkmaar.   Sorry about that!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for Mother's Day From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:45:52 EDT     --part1_135.1f453a63.2be7ef40_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     > In a message dated 5/4/2003 10:38:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > nickgood@ix.netcom.com writes: > > >> Any interesting ideas for Mother's day.   "Reflection" by Frank Asper (organist of Mormon Tabernacle when he wrote =   it; it was written for his mother)   Ave Maria (and) Regina Caeli (from Chant - Easter/Pentecost) Charles Callahan               Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_135.1f453a63.2be7ef40_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">In a message dated = 5/4/2003=3D 10:38:37 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nickgood@ix.netcom.com writes: <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Times=3D20=3D New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0"><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: = #0000ff=3D20=3D 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Any = inter=3D esting ideas for Mother's day.</FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 = FAMIL=3D Y=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman" = LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>"Reflection" by Frank Asper &nbsp;&nbsp;(organist of Mormon Tabernacle = w=3D hen he wrote it; it was written for his mother) <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Times=3D20=3D New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0">Ave Maria (and) Regina Caeli &nbsp;&nbsp;(from = </FONT>=3D <FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Times = New Roman"=3D20=3D LANG=3D3D"0">Chant - Easter/Pentecost) Charles Callahan=3D20 <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Times=3D20=3D New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_135.1f453a63.2be7ef40_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: RE.: LUDWIGTONE From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:39:29 EDT     --part1_1d0.8d9f5bb.2be7dfb1_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Jim: There was a brick church on the south side of Broad St. but it disbanded = and the church is now apartments. On the north side is Bethany Lutheran. It = has a new electronic. Best, Craig in Pa.   --part1_1d0.8d9f5bb.2be7dfb1_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial Cyr" LANG=3D3D"0"><B>Jim:<BR> There was a brick church on the south side of Broad St. but it disbanded = an=3D d the church is now apartments. On the north side is Bethany Lutheran. It = ha=3D s a new electronic.<BR> Best,<BR> Craig&nbsp; in Pa.</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_1d0.8d9f5bb.2be7dfb1_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Music for Mother's Day From: <Swedish5702@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 11:41:49 EDT     --part1_14b.1eef4a93.2be7e03d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   An Idea. O Perfect Love...Oh Promise Me and other Wedding pieces that = could be adapted. Best, Craig in Pa.   --part1_14b.1eef4a93.2be7e03d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000080" SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D =3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial Cyr" LANG=3D3D"0"><B>An Idea. O Perfect = Love...Oh=3D Promise Me and other Wedding pieces that could be adapted.<BR> Best,<BR> Craig&nbsp; in Pa.</B></FONT></HTML>   --part1_14b.1eef4a93.2be7e03d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Ludwigtone From: "GARY JENKINS" <gary.jenkins6@verizon.net> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:25:43 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0022_01C31309.D44AA140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   There was a Ludwigtone in the Holtkamp at First Congregational Church, =3D LaGrange, IL. [built in 1936] The organ was replaced many years ago =3D with a Van Dahlen. The Holktkamp was moved to Resurrection Church [I =3D think this is the name] near Park Ridge, IL and/or near Resurrection =3D Hospital.   G. Jenkins ------=3D_NextPart_000_0022_01C31309.D44AA140 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>There was a Ludwigtone in the = Holtkamp =3D at First=3D20 Congregational Church, LaGrange, IL.&nbsp; [built in 1936] The organ was = =3D   replaced many years ago with a Van Dahlen.&nbsp; The Holktkamp was moved = =3D to=3D20 Resurrection Church [I think this is the name] near Park Ridge, IL =3D and/or near=3D20 Resurrection Hospital.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>G. Jenkins</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0022_01C31309.D44AA140--    
(back) Subject: Re: Tornado From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:24:35 EDT     --part1_36.3f63ab8c.2be7ea43_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   We got much heavy rain in short spurts last night and through the night, = and there were copious amounts of unusually heavy winds, but no other major damage or problems that I know of around here.   Scott in Memphis   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.   --part1_36.3f63ab8c.2be7ea43_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">We got much heavy rain in short spurts last = night and=3D20=3D through the night, and there were copious amounts of unusually heavy = winds,=3D20=3D but no other major damage or problems that I know of around here.<BR> <BR> Scott in Memphis<BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D4=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT" FACE=3D3D"Monotype Corsiva" LANG=3D3D"0"><B>Scott F. = Foppiano=3D </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0"></B><BR> Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#00000=3D 0" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SCRIPT" = FACE=3D3D"Mo=3D notype Corsiva" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_36.3f63ab8c.2be7ea43_boundary--