PipeChat Digest #3676 - Friday, May 16, 2003
 
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs .... It's a Sampled Instrument
  by "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net>
RE: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "John & Fran Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
RE: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
RE: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
IRC chat tonight. You had better make the most of it.
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: TEST
  by "Ian Robison" <patian@senet.com.au>
List Members at Leipzig?
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: Phoenix Digital organs
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 06:54:28 EDT     --part1_a1.38b482e4.2bf61d64_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   my experience is that it is a lot like Copemen-Hart and so on. i.e.-a johannus/Monarke knock off.   Good luck   dale in Florida   --part1_a1.38b482e4.2bf61d64_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">my experience is that it is a lot like = Copemen-Hart=3D20=3D and so on. <BR> i.e.-a johannus/Monarke&nbsp; knock off.<BR> <BR> Good luck<BR> <BR> dale in Florida</FONT></HTML>   --part1_a1.38b482e4.2bf61d64_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 23:54:15 +1200   I'm no fan of electroids at any time, but the Phoenix, I believe, does indeed use the Musicom system, which is generated, not sampled, i.e. the same thing as the Copeman-Hart. I have CDs of both Copeman-Hart and = Phoenix instruments, and they are certainly pretty impressive compared with the other electronic breeds I've heard.   Ross     >my experience is that it is a lot like Copemen-Hart and so on. i.e.-a johannus/Monarke knock off.   Good luck   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs .... It's a Sampled Instrument From: "Mattcinnj" <mattcinnj@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 04:55:27 -0700 (PDT)   --0-1256952208-1053086127=3D:88364 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii   Hi All, It's a sampled instrument. Wonderful English Specifications as per the = various sites I have seen. Matt     --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-1256952208-1053086127=3D:88364 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii   <DIV>Hi All,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>It's a sampled instrument.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Wonderful English = Specifications as per the various sites I have seen.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Matt</DIV><p><hr SIZE=3D1> Do you Yahoo!?<br> <a = href=3D"http://us.rd.yahoo.com/search/mailsig/*http://search.yahoo.com">The= New Yahoo! Search</a> - Faster. Easier. Bingo. --0-1256952208-1053086127=3D:88364--  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:12:38 +0100     Oh dear - you chaps really do know how to drag me into a discussion, don't =   you <grin>!   Dale and Ross: with all due respect, Phoenix is nothing like Copeman Hart =   (for starters, we've been building organs since 1960!), nor does it use = the Musicom real-time system.   Phoenix is a new company and has designed its own 'sampled sound' system: there is nothing 'real time' about it. Dale is correct in saying that it =   is similar to Johannus, in that the Johannus system is also 'sampled'.   Best wishes to all, especially for the weekend,   Cheryl   http://www.copemanhart.co.uk      
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:19:13 EDT     --part1_136.1f2955fd.2bf65b71_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Fran:   Liverpool Cathedral has a Phoenix that Ian Tracy uses as well as the big Willis. It is used on the West end of the Cathedral, and according to Ian has a very fine sound. It fulfills a necessary use there.   Ron   --part1_136.1f2955fd.2bf65b71_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Fran:<BR> <BR> Liverpool Cathedral has a Phoenix that Ian Tracy uses as well<BR> as the big Willis. It is used on the West end of the Cathedral,<BR> and according to Ian has a very fine sound. It fulfills a necessary<BR> use there.<BR> <BR> Ron</FONT></HTML>   --part1_136.1f2955fd.2bf65b71_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 11:30:59 -0400   At 09:51 PM 5/15/2003 -0700, you wrote: >A church in the area has signed to buy a Phoenix digital organ and will >integrate it with the existing Casavant pipe organ. The organist wants to >know of opinions regarding this British import. It seems I heard some = good >things said on either this list or organchat just recently. Has anyone >experience with this digital organ. thanks. Fran Meyers   Hi,   Is your "area" in Canada or the U.S. As far as I know the Phoenix organs sold in North America are basically built in Ontario, the only thing British about them is the technology, hardware etc.   Have had no direct experience with them, but have heard varying reports about them. They sell in Ontario, quite often based on lower price, sometimes significantly lower than competitors. Also some people are enamoured with the British connection. They sell custom specifications, and tonally they are generally biased towards British sound. They also = are into hybrid organs.   That is all I know........   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "G. Deboer" <gdeboer@bluemarble.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 10:56:54 -0500   Where Johannus stands out from the other "sampled" crowd is, with Johannus you get to listen to the actual sample of the pipe, not a derivative or simulation of a sample by whatever means it was produced. And this is precisely why Johannus calls their system "Real Time", that = is, the sounds you hear are those of the Real actual sampled pipes at the Time they were recorded. If you have the time, please check out the "for connoisseurs" under the = Opus column in the Johannus.com website. Thanks, and we wish you also a great spring weekend.   Gary   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cheryl C Hart" <info@copemanhart.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs     > > Oh dear - you chaps really do know how to drag me into a discussion, = don't > you <grin>! > > Dale and Ross: with all due respect, Phoenix is nothing like Copeman = Hart > (for starters, we've been building organs since 1960!), nor does it use the > Musicom real-time system. > > Phoenix is a new company and has designed its own 'sampled sound' = system: > there is nothing 'real time' about it. Dale is correct in saying that = it > is similar to Johannus, in that the Johannus system is also 'sampled'. > > Best wishes to all, especially for the weekend, > > Cheryl > > http://www.copemanhart.co.uk > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 12:14:31 -0400       You wrote:   A church in the area has signed to buy a Phoenix digital organ and will integrate it with the existing Casavant pipe organ. The organist wants to know of opinions regarding this British import. It seems I heard some good things said on either this list or organchat just recently. Has anyone experience with this digital organ. thanks. Fran Meyers Why didn't the organist ask about opinions BEFORE signing? Or did I miss something? AjM                
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "John & Fran Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 09:38:09 -0700   of course he did; he studied it thoroughly. However, he a very purist pipe man, and still has misgivings about "toasters" as he calls them. So he = still needs reassurances. He has only heard the CD, and hoped someone had heard = an actual Phoenix in a church setting. Thanks, Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 9:14 AM Subject: RE: Phoenix Digital organs     > > > You wrote: > > A church in the area has signed to buy a Phoenix digital organ and will > integrate it with the existing Casavant pipe organ. The organist wants = to > know of opinions regarding this British import. It seems I heard some = good > things said on either this list or organchat just recently. Has anyone > experience with this digital organ. thanks. Fran Meyers > Why didn't the organist ask about opinions BEFORE signing? Or did I miss > something? > AjM > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:23:05 -0400   On 5/16/03 12:38 PM, "John & Fran Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net> wrote:   > However, he a very purist pipe > man, and still has misgivings about "toasters" as he calls them. So he = still > needs reassurances. He has only heard the CD, and hoped someone had = heard an > actual Phoenix in a church setting.   He's a "very purist pipe man" but he's buying what he calls a "toaster," = and without having listened to one of the sort he's buying. A man of immense faith, I'd say, and I know NOTHING about the instrument in question.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:30:39 -0400   > > However, he a very purist pipe > > man, and still has misgivings about "toasters" as he calls them. So he still > > needs reassurances. He has only heard the CD, and hoped someone had heard an > > actual Phoenix in a church setting. > > He's a "very purist pipe man" but he's buying what he calls a "toaster," and > without having listened to one of the sort he's buying. A man of = immense > faith, I'd say, and I know NOTHING about the instrument in question.   The odds are overwhelming that he had little, or nothing, to say about the selection of the organ. These decisions are usually taken by committees comprised of bean-counters. Once presented with a *fa=EEt accompli,* I = don't blame him, as incumbent organist, for wanting to find out a bit about what he's facing.    
(back) Subject: RE: Phoenix Digital organs From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:37:26 -0400   I don't like any digital organs. I always would prefer pipes   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of John & Fran Meyers Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 12:51 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Phoenix Digital organs     A church in the area has signed to buy a Phoenix digital organ and will integrate it with the existing Casavant pipe organ. The organist wants to know of opinions regarding this British import. It seems I heard some good things said on either this list or organchat just recently. Has anyone experience with this digital organ. thanks. Fran Meyers       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: RE: Phoenix Digital organs From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 13:43:03 -0400   If I were him and the committe did that to me and bought an electric, I would leave the position immediately!   Andrew Meagher   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of V. David Barton Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 1:31 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs     > > However, he a very purist pipe > > man, and still has misgivings about "toasters" as he calls them. So h= e still > > needs reassurances. He has only heard the CD, and hoped someone had heard an > > actual Phoenix in a church setting. > > He's a "very purist pipe man" but he's buying what he calls a "toaster,= " and > without having listened to one of the sort he's buying. A man of immen= se > faith, I'd say, and I know NOTHING about the instrument in question.   The odds are overwhelming that he had little, or nothing, to say about th= e selection of the organ. These decisions are usually taken by committees comprised of bean-counters. Once presented with a *fa=EEt accompli,* I d= on't blame him, as incumbent organist, for wanting to find out a bit about wha= t he's facing.     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:42:56 EDT     --part1_2d.2eaef69a.2bf68b30_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   In a message dated 5/16/2003 1:31:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time,=3D20 vdbarton@erols.com writes:   > odds are overwhelming that he had little, or nothing, to say about the > selection of the organ. These decisions are usually taken by committees > comprised of bean-counters. Once presented with a *fa=3DEEt accompli,* = I do=3D n't > blame him, as incumbent organist, for wanting to find out a bit about = what > he's facing. >=3D20   in my 35 years plus of being a church organist/director/whatever i have = had=3D20 the opportunity to purchase 5 organs for church or chapel. Every one of them was the one I wanted and not the committee choice. = They=3D20 approved of course but it was my choice--4 toasters and 1 pipe./   no fait accompli is ever needed unless the single donor says i will pay = for=3D20=3D a=3D20 brand R only here is the check.   dale   he will be happy with it if for no other reason than it is new and it = will=3D20 work well and it is always fun exploring sounds in worship. If it is no = fun=3D =3D20 time to move on.   dale again   --part1_2d.2eaef69a.2bf68b30_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 5/16/2003 1:31:26 PM Eastern = Dayl=3D ight Time, vdbarton@erols.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0">odds are overwhelming that he had little, or nothing, = to sa=3D y about the<BR> selection of the organ.&nbsp; These decisions are usually taken by = committee=3D s<BR> comprised of bean-counters.&nbsp; Once presented with a *fa=3DEEt = accompli,* I=3D don't<BR> blame him, as incumbent organist, for wanting to find out a bit about = what<B=3D R> he's facing.<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> in my 35 years plus of being a church organist/director/whatever i have = had=3D20=3D the opportunity to purchase 5 organs for church or chapel.<BR> Every one of them was the one I wanted and not the committee choice. They = ap=3D proved of course but it was my choice--4 toasters and 1 pipe./<BR> <BR> no fait accompli is ever needed unless the single donor says i will pay = for=3D20=3D a brand R only here is the check.<BR> <BR> dale<BR> <BR> he will be happy with it if for no other reason than it is new and it will = w=3D ork well and it is always fun exploring sounds in worship.&nbsp; If it is = no=3D fun time to move on.<BR> <BR> dale again</FONT></HTML>   --part1_2d.2eaef69a.2bf68b30_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:44:47 EDT     --part1_1d0.9a98e56.2bf68b9f_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/16/2003 1:43:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ameagher@stny.rr.com writes:   > > If I were him and the committe did that to me and bought an electric, I > would leave the position immediately! >   if that is waht happened he should leave. i do wonder if there was a = money concern, a SPACE concern or whatever. A small pipe is never as much fun as a large electronic and yes i am a conservatory trianed performance major. I love variety.   You all have a good weekend and play WELL in church! dale   --part1_1d0.9a98e56.2bf68b9f_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0">In a message dated 5/16/2003 1:43:55 PM Eastern = Dayl=3D ight Time, ameagher@stny.rr.com writes:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-LEFT=3D : 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"#000000"=3D style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"A=3D rial" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> If I were him and the committe did that to me and bought an electric, = I<BR> would leave the position immediately!<BR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" = SIZE=3D3D2=3D FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" FACE=3D3D"Georgia Ref" LANG=3D3D"0"><BR> if that is waht happened he should leave.&nbsp; i do wonder if there was a = m=3D oney concern, a SPACE concern or whatever. <BR> A small pipe is never as much fun as a large electronic and yes i am a = conse=3D rvatory trianed performance major.&nbsp; I love variety.<BR> <BR> You all have a good weekend and play WELL in church!<BR> dale</FONT></HTML>   --part1_1d0.9a98e56.2bf68b9f_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 14:51:11 -0400   On 5/16/03 1:30 PM, "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> wrote:   > The odds are overwhelming that he had little, or nothing, to say about th= e > selection of the organ. These decisions are usually taken by committees > comprised of bean-counters. Once presented with a *fa=EEt accompli,* I don= 't > blame him, as incumbent organist, for wanting to find out a bit about wha= t > he's facing.   David: I just re-read the original post on this subject, and you are exactly correct, and your assumptions seem totally justified. I just remembered it WRONG.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:13:32 EDT   Odd to ask such questions after the contract has been signed and the money =   spent.  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:25:22 +1200     -----Original Message----- From: Cheryl C Hart <info@copemanhart.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Saturday, May 17, 2003 3:13 AM Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs     > >Oh dear - you chaps really do know how to drag me into a discussion, = don't >you <grin>! > >Dale and Ross: with all due respect, Phoenix is nothing like Copeman = Hart >(for starters, we've been building organs since 1960!), nor does it use = the >Musicom real-time system. > >Phoenix is a new company and has designed its own 'sampled sound' system: >there is nothing 'real time' about it. Dale is correct in saying that = it >is similar to Johannus, in that the Johannus system is also 'sampled'. > >Best wishes to all, especially for the weekend, > >Cheryl > >http://www.copemanhart.co.uk > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 09:27:29 +1200   >Dale and Ross: with all due respect, Phoenix is nothing like Copeman = Hart >(for starters, we've been building organs since 1960!), nor does it use = the >Musicom real-time system.   I give you an unreserved apology. My info has been wrong and therefore I = was wrong. Grovel, grovel, grovel, mea maxima culpa. Please forgive me, = etc.etc. Best, Ross        
(back) Subject: IRC chat tonight. You had better make the most of it. From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 17:32:13 -0400   This is a long weekend in Canada, - it is known as Victoria Day, - in honour of Canada's First Queen's Birthday. No-one has yet got around to telling them that the dear old lady died about a century ago.   So this means that a lot of Canadians will be opening up their cottages, and firing up the BBQ in order to whoop it up with a few bottles of Molson's, or something similar.   In turn, it also means that some of us may not be partaking in the = PipeChat IRC, either tonight or Monday, - in some cases both! As it happens, I no longer feel the need to get away from it all. But, as =   ever, I am hoping that the weather will hold good for the celebratory fireworks on Monday night!   So, as I say, be sure to make it tonight at 9.00 pm EST, and read the latest on the inner thoughts of all our contributors!   See you there! - and if you don't know how to join in, go to the PipeChat =   web page for detailed instructions.   Bob Conway    
(back) Subject: Re: TEST From: "Ian Robison" <patian@senet.com.au> Date: Sat, 17 May 2003 08:04:41 +0930   Hi Tim!   Greetings from Adelaide, South Australia.   Receiving you loud and clear.   Just enjoyed an enjoyable concert in Elder Hall, University of Adelaide, on Wednesday, May 14, by the Castle Singers and Knightliters Jazz Band from Wartburg College, Iowa, with Immanuel College Choir and Stage Band.   The Castle Singers and Band are presently on tour in Australia.   They are still anxious about road traffic coming at them on the "wrong side of the road"!   Why do you drive on the "right" side of the road in America, anyway? Any answers would be appreciated.   Ian.     On Friday, May 16, 2003, at 11:19 AM, Tim Bovard wrote:   > CHECK - CHECK - CHECK - ONE - TWO - THREE - IS THIS THING ON?? >    
(back) Subject: List Members at Leipzig? From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 19:12:33 EDT   Are any list members going on tour with Ton Koopman and Christoph Wolff, = or at least joining us at the Leipzig Bach Festival? Let me know, please.   SMG  
(back) Subject: Re: Phoenix Digital organs From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 18:45:40 -0500   John & Fran Meyers wrote:   >>He has only heard the CD, and hoped someone had heard an >actual Phoenix in a church setting. > I cannot believe that anyone would be foolish enough to invest an enormous sum in purchasing a new organ -- whether pipe or electronic -- without first hearing an actual example (or preferably several examples) of the builder's work. One can certainly not trust a CD, since some CD's are good recordings and some are bad. Some make the instrument sound better than it actually is, others make it sound worse.   John Speller