PipeChat Digest #3679 - Sunday, May 18, 2003
 
Re: Electronic Organ Makers
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Re: New 5 manual pipe organ
  by <RMB10@aol.com>
Re: Electronic Organ Makers
  by "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz>
Re: New 5 manual pipe organ
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: New 5 manual pipe organ
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: Electronic Organ Makers
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Grieg's organ works
  by "James E. Storms" <s1328462@sensewave.com>
Re: Electronic Organ Makers
  by "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net>
Grand, Grande, and World-Class
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Organ Makers From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:05:33 +0100   Eliot,   You will have to give the pundits(?) on this list a bit more to go on.   For what kind of music - strictly classical, theatre, or more or less anything.   Are you a professional, a semi-pro, a hobbyist, a beginner, just dabbling = or with serious intent.   Perhaps you already play pipe organ in a church and need a home electronic for home practice.? Perhaps you play for dancing in a club ?   Budget ?? or perhaps the sky's the limit.   So many questions (and possible answers.)   Best of luck with your search,   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eliot Hunter" <eliothunter@yahoo.co.uk> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 3:58 AM Subject: Electronic Organ Makers     > > I'm thinking of buying an electronic instrument for my home, but I don't know anything about the it. > > Let's have a vote. Which of the following maker is the best: > > Ahlborn, Allen, Bohm, Compton, Hammond, Johannus, Norwich, Phoenix, Rodgers, etc. > > Is there anything important that you think I should know before buying. > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience >    
(back) Subject: Re: New 5 manual pipe organ From: <RMB10@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 05:47:40 EDT     --part1_ad.2e4a3a22.2bf8b0bc_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Andrew Mead asked about the 5 manual organ I spoke about in my post about churches buying a new instrument and the organist not hearing one in = person.   The church I was writing about is Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, Charlotte, NC, and this will be the third 5 manual organ in town, the = others being the 205 rank Calvary Grand Moller organ and the rebuilt = Aeolian-Skinner at Covenant Presbyterian Church. The Covenant organ is a 1948 Skinner = that was revoiced/enlarged by Schlicker in the 1970's. This rebuild is undoing =   the Schlickerizations and installing a new 5 manual Robert Turner console = and having voicing work done by Stewart Goodwin.   Back to the original topic, Friendship Baptist is building a new 3000 seat =   sanctuary and will be installing a new Ruffatti pipe organ that I designed = in conjunction with Francesco Ruffatti. The organ will be in 10 divisions, consisting of about 165 ranks. (I don't have my stop list in front of me right now, so I don't remember some of the specifics.) I've made a few changes to the specification, so the exact number of stops escapes me at = the moment, and although the contract has been signed, there are still going = to be a few changes to the stoplist. The organ will include five 32' stops, = a two Tibias (Tibiae?), a floating Celestial division (digital), and a = Chamade with flared brass resonators, among other things. The facade design is = still being worked on by Piero Ruffatti in conjunction with the church's = architect. Kirkegaard and Assoc. are doing the acoustical work, and the plan is for = the sanctuary to have between 1.8-2.0 seconds of reverb when full. Obviously = we wanted a higher reverb level, but due to the variety of musical styles = (Bach to contemporary urban gospel) performed at the church by over 11 different =   musical ensembles we needed to keep the reverb to a moderate level, = because the contempoary music is not well served by overly live acoustics. The Senior Pastor of the church insisted on the church having a pipe organ due = to his commitment to high caliber music and his love for the traditional. = When we met with the Ruffatti representatives a couple of weeks ago to sign the =   contract, the Pastor announced that as far as he was concerned, he was = going to keep the church leaning towards the traditional and not make = contemporary music the major focus and that things would stay that way as long as he is =   the Pastor. He and his wife will be celebrating their 20th anniversary at =   the church in November, and he hopes to have many more years there since = he's only in his mid 50's. As much as the church loves him, I know he'll be = there for a while. With his vision and leadership, the church has experienced tremendous growth and is over the 5,000 member mark right now.   I'll keep the list updated as to the progress of the instrument. We're looking at about a 30-33 month wait, due to the size of the instrument and = to other projects that Ruffatti has going right now. We were told that the worst case scenario is that the organ will be ready for use by Easter = 2006, but if all goes quickly, we could have the organ in and playing for = Christmas 2005.   Monty Bennett   --part1_ad.2e4a3a22.2bf8b0bc_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Andrew Mead asked about the 5 manual organ I = spoke abo=3D ut in my post about churches buying a new instrument and the organist not = he=3D aring one in person. <BR> <BR> The church I was writing about is Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, = Char=3D lotte, NC, and this will be the third 5 manual organ in town, the others = bei=3D ng the 205 rank Calvary Grand Moller organ and the rebuilt Aeolian-Skinner = a=3D t Covenant Presbyterian Church.&nbsp; The Covenant organ is a 1948 Skinner t=3D hat was revoiced/enlarged by Schlicker in the 1970's.&nbsp; This rebuild = is=3D20=3D undoing the Schlickerizations and installing a new 5 manual Robert Turner = co=3D nsole and having voicing work done by Stewart Goodwin.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> Back to the original topic, Friendship Baptist is building a new 3000 seat = s=3D anctuary and will be installing a new Ruffatti pipe organ that I designed = in=3D conjunction with&nbsp; Francesco Ruffatti.&nbsp; The organ will be in 10 = di=3D visions, consisting of about 165 ranks. (I don't have my stop list in = front=3D20=3D of me right now, so I don't remember some of the specifics.)&nbsp; I've = made=3D a few changes to the specification, so the exact number of stops escapes = me=3D at the moment, and although the contract has been signed, there are still = g=3D oing to be a few changes to the stoplist.&nbsp; The organ will include = five=3D20=3D 32' stops, a two Tibias (Tibiae?), a floating Celestial division = (digital),=3D20=3D and a Chamade with flared brass resonators, among other things.&nbsp; The = fa=3D cade design is still being worked on by Piero Ruffatti in conjunction with = t=3D he church's architect.&nbsp; Kirkegaard and Assoc. are doing the = acoustical=3D20=3D work, and the plan is for the sanctuary to have between 1.8-2.0 seconds of = r=3D everb when full.&nbsp; Obviously we wanted a higher reverb level, but due = to=3D the variety of musical styles (Bach to contemporary urban gospel) = performed=3D at the church by over 11 different musical ensembles we needed to keep = the=3D20=3D reverb to a moderate level, because the contempoary music is not well = served=3D by overly live acoustics.&nbsp; The Senior Pastor of the church insisted = on=3D the church having a pipe organ due to his commitment to high caliber = music=3D20=3D and his love for the traditional.&nbsp; When we met with the Ruffatti = repres=3D entatives a couple of weeks ago to sign the contract, the Pastor announced = t=3D hat as far as he was concerned, he was going to keep the church leaning = towa=3D rds the traditional and not make contemporary music the major focus and = that=3D things would stay that way as long as he is the Pastor.&nbsp; He and his = wi=3D fe will be celebrating their 20th anniversary at the church in November, = and=3D he hopes to have many more years there since he's only in his mid = 50's.&nbs=3D p; As much as the church loves him, I know he'll be there for a = while.&nbsp;=3D With his vision and leadership, the church has experienced tremendous = growt=3D h and is over the 5,000 member mark right now.&nbsp; <BR> <BR> I'll keep the list updated as to the progress of the instrument.&nbsp; = We're=3D looking at about a 30-33 month wait, due to the size of the instrument = and=3D20=3D to other projects that Ruffatti has going right now.&nbsp; We were told = that=3D the worst case scenario is that the organ will be ready for use by Easter = 2=3D 006, but if all goes quickly, we could have the organ in and playing for = Chr=3D istmas 2005.<BR> <BR> Monty Bennett</FONT></HTML>   --part1_ad.2e4a3a22.2bf8b0bc_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Organ Makers From: "Ross & Lynda Wards" <TheShieling@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 23:58:49 +1200   >> Let's have a vote. Which of the following maker is the best: Ahlborn, Allen, Bohm, Compton, Hammond, Johannus, Norwich, Phoenix, >Rodgers, etc.   The best, and only sensible advice anyone on this List can give you is, as has already been said: ask yourself what you intend to play on the instrument, decide how much you intend to spend, and then go out and = listen to as big a range of makes and models as you can. For a home organ, there = is no right or wrong - it is entirely a matter of what you feel sounds right for you. It's the same with pipe organs: home instruments have to satisfy the owner, only: in exactly the same way that no one can decide for you whether paint or wallpaper is "better" for your home's walls, as there are no requirements for you to follow.   In church organs, it's rather different. As light relief, let me quote an organ I knew many years ago here in NZ. It's since been rebuilt yet again, but originally the Great was   16 Bourdon 8 Open Diapason 8 Stopt Diapason 4 Principal 4 Harmonic Flute 2 2/3 12th 2 15th . Mixture IV 8 Trumpet 4 Clarion   By the 2nd-to-last rebuild in 1955, it had become - 8 Open Diapason 8 Open Diapason 8 Claribel Flute 8 Stopped Diapason 8 Salicional 8 Dulciana 4 Principal 4 Harmonic Flute 2 2/3 12th 2 15th   Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.   Ross    
(back) Subject: Re: New 5 manual pipe organ From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:18:22 -0400   > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   --B_3136090702_2724965 Content-type: text/plain; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   On 5/18/03 5:47 AM, "RMB10@aol.com" <RMB10@aol.com> wrote:   > the 5 manual organ I spoke about in my post about churches buying a new > instrument and the organist not hearing one in person. >=3D20 > The church I was writing about is Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, > Charlotte, NC, and this will be the third 5 manual organ in town, the = oth=3D ers   My goodness! Aren=3DB9t YOU having fun, Monty! I find it AMAZING that = there could be three such instruments in one city (unless a huge city). But = I=3DB9m even MORE amazed that that city has been able to attract, or develop, organISTS who are able to make use of such large instruments!   I=3DB9m very impressed. But the obvious GROWTH of your congregation = appears to justify the path you=3DB9ve taken.   Alan   --B_3136090702_2724965 Content-type: text/html; charset=3D"ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML> <HEAD> <TITLE>Re: New 5 manual pipe organ</TITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman">On 5/18/03 5:47 AM, = &quot;RMB10@aol.com&quot; =3D &lt;RMB10@aol.com&gt; wrote:<BR> <BR> </FONT><BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Arial">the 5 manual organ I spoke about = in m=3D y post about churches buying a new instrument and the organist not hearing = o=3D ne in person. <BR> <BR> The church I was writing about is Friendship Missionary Baptist Church, = Cha=3D rlotte, NC, and this will be the third 5 manual organ in town, the = others<BR=3D > </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><FONT FACE=3D3D"Times New Roman"><BR> My goodness! &nbsp;Aren&#8217;t YOU having fun, Monty! &nbsp;I find it = AMAZ=3D ING that there could be three such instruments in one city (unless a huge = ci=3D ty). &nbsp;But I&#8217;m even MORE amazed that that city has been able to = at=3D tract, or develop, organISTS who are able to make use of such large = instrume=3D nts! &nbsp;<BR> <BR> I&#8217;m very impressed. &nbsp;But the obvious GROWTH of your = congregation=3D appears to justify the path you&#8217;ve taken.<BR> <BR> Alan</FONT> </BODY> </HTML>     --B_3136090702_2724965--    
(back) Subject: Re: New 5 manual pipe organ From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:25:06 EDT     --part1_4e.1c71f8ee.2bf8d5a2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/18/03 5:48:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com =   writes:     > Kirkegaard and Assoc. are doing the acoustical work, and the plan is for = the > sanctuary to have between 1.8-2.0 seconds of reverb when full. = Obviously > we wanted a higher reverb level, but due to the variety of musical = styles > (Bach to contemporary urban gospel) performed at the church by over 11 > different musical ensembles we needed to keep the reverb to a moderate > level, because the contempoary music is not well served by overly live > acoustics.   Does anyone really know if contemporary music does not sound good in a reverberant acoustic? Has a "group" ever tried playing without being = miked to death? I, personally, have never heard music that suffered in such acoustics unless it was played as though in a dead room. I have only = heard contemporay music in 3 seconds reverberation once (before the mics were = set up) and it was quite nice. But this was only pre-rehearsal and they = would not even rehearse without "help."   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502     --part1_4e.1c71f8ee.2bf8d5a2_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 5/18/0=3D 3 5:48:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time, RMB10@aol.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Kirkegaard and Assoc. are = d=3D oing the acoustical work, and the plan is for the sanctuary to have = between=3D20=3D 1.8-2.0 seconds of reverb when full. &nbsp;Obviously we wanted a higher = reve=3D rb level, but due to the variety of musical styles (Bach to contemporary = urb=3D an gospel) performed at the church by over 11 different musical ensembles = we=3D needed to keep the reverb to a moderate level, because the contempoary = musi=3D c is not well served by overly live acoustics. &nbsp;</FONT><FONT = COLOR=3D3D"=3D #000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D3D"Arial" = LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOT=3D E> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>Does anyone really know if contemporary music does not sound good in a = r=3D everberant acoustic? &nbsp;&nbsp;Has a "group" ever tried playing without = be=3D ing miked to death? &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I, personally, have never heard = music=3D20=3D that suffered in such acoustics unless it was played as though in a dead = roo=3D m. &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I have only heard contemporay music in 3 seconds = reverb=3D eration once (before the mics were set up) and it was quite nice. = &nbsp;&nbs=3D p;But this was only pre-rehearsal and they would not even rehearse without = "=3D help." <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_4e.1c71f8ee.2bf8d5a2_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Organ Makers From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:32:16 -0400   Totally agreed, Richard!   Alan   On 5/18/03 1:10 AM, "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> wrote:   > Eliot Hunter wrote: > >> I'm thinking of buying an electronic instrument for my home, >> but I don't know anything about the it. > >> Let's have a vote. > > How about: Let's not? At least: no here! How about > conducting that vote on E-Org, rather than Pipechat? I'm not > speaking for the List Owners by any means, but such a thing > could easily become divisive and lead to the usual "war > games". I think our Fearless Leaders will agree with me in > this. > > Faithfully, > > G.A.    
(back) Subject: Re: Grieg's organ works From: "James E. Storms" <s1328462@sensewave.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 11:46:37 +0200   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00E9_01C31D33.23CA3D60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Grieg's organ worksAn English organist who is presently living in Norway = =3D transcribed fourteen of Grieg's works.   A Grieg Organ Album Selected and arranged by Christopher Eva OUP=3D20 ISPN 0 - 19 - 322197 - 7   Many of these fine transcriptions can be used for service music =3D (weddings, funerals, etc.)   If you fancy your pedal work, try "In the Hall of the Mountain King".   James E. Storms ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Randolph Runyon=3D20 To: PipeChat=3D20 Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 9:44 PM Subject: Grieg's organ works       To bring this on topic, did Grieg write any music for the organ? = =3D I do not recall any, - other than the numerous transcriptions of The =3D Hall of the Mountain King, and such-like.     According to John Henderson (_A Directory of Composers for =3D Organ_): "It had long been thought that Edvard Hagerup Grieg composed =3D no original organ music until a recently discovered collection of Grieg = =3D manuscripts (keyboard pieces and counterpoint exercises composed while =3D he was a student in Leipzig 1858-62) was found to contain several organ = =3D pieces. These include some chorale arrangements, chorale trios, two =3D four-part organ fugues on the name of GADE, and a triple fugue in =3D D-minor. Transcriptions of his orchestral and piano works were abundant = =3D earlier this century and two movements from the "Holberg Suite" can =3D currently be found in the _Wedding Bouquet_ collection from Novello. =3D Further transcriptions are also available from C. F. Peters. Reference = =3D for further reading: Dorfmuller, Joachim. "Grieg's baroque period", =3D _Choir & Organ_, 11/99." =3D20   Apparently the student works have not been published or Henderson = =3D would have given details.       Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu     ------=3D_NextPart_000_00E9_01C31D33.23CA3D60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Grieg's organ works</TITLE> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>An English organist who is = =3D presently living=3D20 in Norway transcribed&nbsp;fourteen of Grieg's works.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>A Grieg Organ =3D Album</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>Selected and arranged by =3D Christopher=3D20 Eva</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>OUP </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>ISPN 0 - 19 - 322197 - =3D 7</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>Many of&nbsp;these fine=3D20 transcriptions&nbsp;can be used for service music (weddings, = funerals,=3D20 etc.)</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>If you fancy your pedal work, = =3D try "In the=3D20 Hall of the Mountain King".</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2>James E. Storms</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Drunyonr@muohio.edu =3D href=3D3D"mailto:runyonr@muohio.edu">Randolph=3D20 Runyon</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">PipeChat</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 9:44 = =3D PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Grieg's organ =3D works</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" size=3D3D2></FONT><FONT = face=3D3D"Courier =3D New"=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT><BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT face=3D3D"Times New Roman"><FONT face=3D3D"Courier = =3D New"=3D20 size=3D3D2></FONT><FONT face=3D3D"Courier New" = size=3D3D2></FONT><BR>To =3D bring this on=3D20 topic, did Grieg write any music for the organ? &nbsp;I do not =3D recall any,=3D20 - other than the numerous transcriptions of The Hall of the =3D Mountain King,=3D20 and such-like.<BR><BR><BR></FONT><FONT face=3D3D"Arial =3D Black">According to=3D20 John Henderson (_A Directory of Composers for Organ_): &nbsp;"It =3D had long=3D20 been thought that Edvard Hagerup Grieg composed no original organ = =3D music=3D20 until a recently discovered collection of Grieg manuscripts =3D (keyboard=3D20 pieces and counterpoint exercises composed while he was a student = =3D in=3D20 Leipzig 1858-62) was found to contain several organ pieces. =3D &nbsp;These=3D20 include some chorale arrangements, chorale trios, two four-part =3D organ=3D20 fugues on the name of GADE, and a triple fugue in D-minor.=3D20 &nbsp;Transcriptions of his orchestral and piano works were =3D abundant=3D20 earlier this century and two movements from the "Holberg Suite" =3D can=3D20 currently be found in the _Wedding Bouquet_ collection from =3D Novello.=3D20 &nbsp;Further transcriptions are also available from C. F. Peters. = =3D   &nbsp;Reference for further reading: &nbsp;Dorfmuller, Joachim.=3D20 &nbsp;"Grieg's baroque period", _Choir &amp; Organ_, 11/99."=3D20 &nbsp;<BR><BR>Apparently the student works have not been published = =3D or=3D20 Henderson would have given=3D20 details.<BR><BR><BR></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>Randy =3D Runyon<BR>Music=3D20 Director<BR>Zion Lutheran Church<BR>Hamilton,=3D20 Ohio<BR>runyonr@muohio.edu<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00E9_01C31D33.23CA3D60--    
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Organ Makers From: "Teah" <teahzg@charter.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 08:51:31 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0038_01C31D1A.ADAC20C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Depends on what you are looking for in an organ and your budget Eliot. = =3D I would recommend visiting your local dealers and try different =3D instruments in your price range. Johannus and Ahlborn make good =3D sounding and well appointed sampled organs. I nearly bought a Johannus = =3D Opus 30 last year (under $17K), but decided in the end on a custom =3D Cantor (Musicom). Not really a "home" organ ... More expensive, but =3D certainly worth it.   Best advice: Shop around. Compare prices. Avoid being taken in by =3D sales hype. Do your home work and take your time. Whatever you decide, = =3D enjoy your new organ.   Tim ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Eliot Hunter=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 9:58 PM Subject: Electronic Organ Makers       I'm thinking of buying an electronic instrument for my home, but I =3D don't know anything about the it. =3D20   Let's have a vote. Which of the following maker is the best:=3D20   Ahlborn, Allen, Bohm, Compton, Hammond, Johannus, Norwich, Phoenix, =3D Rodgers, etc.   Is there anything important that you think I should know before =3D buying.   Thanks                     -------------------------------------------------------------------------= =3D -----   Yahoo! Plus - For a better Internet experience     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.481 / Virus Database: 277 - Release Date: 5/13/2003 ------=3D_NextPart_000_0038_01C31D1A.ADAC20C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Depends on what you are looking for = in =3D an organ and=3D20 your budget&nbsp;Eliot.&nbsp; I would recommend visiting your local =3D dealers and=3D20 try different instruments in your price range.&nbsp; Johannus and =3D Ahlborn make=3D20 good sounding and well appointed sampled organs.&nbsp; I nearly bought a = =3D   Johannus Opus 30 last year (under $17K), but decided in the end on a =3D custom=3D20 Cantor (Musicom).&nbsp; Not really a "home" organ ... More expensive, =3D but=3D20 certainly worth it.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Best advice: Shop around.&nbsp; = Compare =3D   prices.&nbsp; Avoid being taken in by sales hype.&nbsp; Do your home =3D work and=3D20 take your time.&nbsp; Whatever you decide, enjoy your new =3D organ.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Tim</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3Deliothunter@yahoo.co.uk =3D href=3D3D"mailto:eliothunter@yahoo.co.uk">Eliot=3D20 Hunter</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 17, 2003 = =3D 9:58=3D20 PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Electronic Organ =3D Makers</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><BR>I'm thinking of buying an electronic instrument for my home, = =3D but I=3D20 don't know anything about the it. &nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Let's have a vote. Which of the following&nbsp;maker&nbsp;is the = =3D best:=3D20 <BR></DIV> <DIV>Ahlborn, Allen, Bohm, Compton, Hammond, Johannus, Norwich, =3D Phoenix,=3D20 Rodgers, etc.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Is there anything important that you think I should know = before=3D20 buying.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <P> <P><BR> <DIV> <HR SIZE=3D3D1> </DIV> <DIV><A=3D20 =3D href=3D3D"http://uk.rd.yahoo.com/evt=3D3D8613/*http://uk.yahoo.com/mail/tag= li=3D ne_plus/?http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/yplus/btoffer.html"><B><FONT=3D20 face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Yahoo! 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(back) Subject: Grand, Grande, and World-Class From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 10:28:52 EDT   Can anybody explain to a beginner organbuilder the distinction between a "Grand" organ, a "Grande" organ, and a "World-Class" organ? I see these = terms used so frequently, and I am afraid that the little six-rank pipe organ = we're building now might be a "Less-than-Grande Martian Class organ."