PipeChat Digest #3681 - Sunday, May 18, 2003
 
Re:(which side of the road?)
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Farnam's organ
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re:(which side of the road?)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
My pipe organs page
  by "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net>
Anyone for Lourdes?
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Emmanuel Church Boston
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
web page
  by "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net>
Tuba (Trumpet) Tunes
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Re: Side Saddle Explanation
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Electronic Organ Makers
  by <Tspiggle@aol.com>
Key Action Questions
  by "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net>
Re: Side Saddle Explanation
  by "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com>
Re: Key Action Questions
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: Side Saddle Explanation
  by <quilisma@socal.rr.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re:(which side of the road?) From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 18:42:37 EDT     --part1_170.1ec6daca.2bf9665d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Ian:   The way I heard the story in the UK while on a visit, is that horsemen rode on the left to protect themselves from thieves and robbers or other combatants in a military operation. The soward was carried in the gauntlet or right hand. Therefore it made sense to ride on the left. The habit never changed, so drivers now drive on the left in the UK. I don't know what the left handed chaps did. :) Perhaps that's why there are so few of them, as they rode on the right side of the road, and the guys on the left side did a better job right handed. Oh well, so much for trivia today.   It does raise the question did left handed organists write better left hand parts than right handed organists when they composed music? Can we discern who they might be by the way they wrote?   The Japanese drive on the left too. Could they be imitating the British? Canada drives on the right like we do, now how about NZ'ers, or do they drive on the wrong side (LEFT) of the road too? Europe drives on the right. VERY CONFUSING! Got in a car in the UK, what's the wheel doing over there? :) I almost took out a couple of locals leaving Manchester airport. They yelled, EEEE must be a yank! I shook my head in the affermative, and an international crisis was averted. :)   Ron Severin   --part1_170.1ec6daca.2bf9665d_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Ian:<BR> <BR> The way I heard the story in the UK while on a visit, is that<BR> horsemen rode on the left to protect themselves from<BR> thieves and robbers or other combatants in a military<BR> operation. The soward was carried in the gauntlet or right<BR> hand. Therefore it made sense to ride on the left. The habit<BR> never changed, so drivers now drive on the left in the UK. <BR> I don't know what the left handed chaps did. :) Perhaps<BR> that's why there are so few of them, as they rode on the <BR> right side of the road, and the guys on the left side&nbsp; did<BR> a better job right handed. Oh well, so much for trivia today.<BR> <BR> It does raise the question did left handed organists write<BR> better left hand parts than right handed organists when they<BR> composed music? Can we discern who they might be by the<BR> way they wrote?<BR> <BR> The Japanese drive on the left too. Could they be imitating<BR> the British? Canada drives on the right like we do, now how<BR> about NZ'ers, or do they drive on the wrong side (LEFT) of the<BR> road too? Europe drives on the right. VERY CONFUSING!<BR> Got in a car in the UK, what's the wheel doing over there? :)<BR> I almost took out a couple of locals leaving Manchester<BR> airport. They yelled, EEEE must be a yank! I shook my <BR> head in the affermative, and an international crisis was averted. :)<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_170.1ec6daca.2bf9665d_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Farnam's organ From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 17:54:57 -0500   The hints on OCH of the Farnam Emmanuel Casavant are magnificent. Is = there a website with more details or pics of this instrument? Is the church closed/abandoned?   Inquiring minds want to know!   Dennis Steckley & A Six-Pack of Cats ____________________   Subject: Emmanuel Church, Boston      
(back) Subject: Re:(which side of the road?) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 00:27:24 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I hired a car at J F K, drove straight into NY and never had a problem!   Still, I DID put a graunch down the side of a Formula One race-car transporter last year in France......that's a real no no!   It's probably more acceptable to kill pedestrians!   Regards,     Colin Mitchell UK     --- RonSeverin@aol.com wrote:   > Got in a car in the UK, what's the wheel doing over > there? :) > I almost took out a couple of locals leaving > Manchester > airport. They yelled, EEEE must be a yank   __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer  
(back) Subject: My pipe organs page From: "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:40:18 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00CC_01C31D75.50137F20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hey all- Just thought, since I just updated the page with more info on = =3D my organs, that maybe you would like to see them ! There arent alot of = =3D pics... but I might put more back up on the page later.... The specs =3D are complete and accurate as I can be... being a novice and all.... =3D Check out the rest of my stuff too, if you have time.   http://www.infoblvd.net/landerr/   The Pipe organ page is the first link, or go just there if you have NO =3D time to fiddle around clicking links at :   http://www.infoblvd.net/landerr/buhl.htm   Ryan   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00CC_01C31D75.50137F20 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hey all-&nbsp; Just thought, since I = =3D just updated=3D20 the page with more info on my organs, that maybe you would like to see =3D them=3D20 !&nbsp; There arent alot of pics... but I might put more back up on the = =3D page=3D20 later....&nbsp; The specs are complete and accurate as I can be... being = =3D a=3D20 novice and all....&nbsp;&nbsp; Check out the rest of my stuff too, if =3D you have=3D20 time.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.infoblvd.net/landerr/">http://www.infoblvd.net/landerr= =3D /</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>The Pipe organ page is the first = link, =3D or go just=3D20 there if you have NO time to fiddle around clicking links at =3D :</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.infoblvd.net/landerr/buhl.htm">http://www.infoblvd.net= =3D /landerr/buhl.htm</A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ryan</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00CC_01C31D75.50137F20--    
(back) Subject: Anyone for Lourdes? From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 00:43:43 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I had an horrendous experience Sunday Morning at Mass.   I knew it was going to be unconventional.....the kids were at Mass prior to tramping off to Lourdes for the pilgrimage.   I got there and was presented with a huge pile of loose-leaf photocopied music, written by the music teacher at the Catholic School.   By the end of the Kyrie, the paperwork was in some dissaray, the hymn board didn't match the special service sheet, I had kids squeezing past my back going to read lessons. As one urchin squeezed past me, ALL the music in the folder was knocked out of my hands and on to the pedal board.   There I was grovelling around the pedals, attempting to collate the mess. Then I slipped onto the pedal coupler trigger and the organ let out a sort of neo-baroque banchee howl, which I silenced with the blower switch beneath the keyslip. The sound slid gracefully through two octaves before finally dying away.   The a very large girl sat on my music, which went down like a lead-balloon. She removed herself reluctantly, chewing gum as she did so! If she had blown a bubble, I swear I would have given her a slap!   I got the music for the Alleluya mixed up with that for the Sanctus, but somehow pulled it off with some strange, and rather retro harmony as I tried to figure out what the so-called "composer" had in mind.   Apart from the fact that I played the wrong Agnus Dei setting, everything else went well until the final voluntary, when some jerk stood up in the middle of my Bach and started to bellow into a microphone about the arrangements for Lourdes.   Was I right to end on an unresolved suspension?   There are moments in life when I hate teenagers and anything to do with them.   Hitting the gin!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK           __________________________________________________ Yahoo! Plus For a better Internet experience http://www.yahoo.co.uk/btoffer  
(back) Subject: Emmanuel Church Boston From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 16:49:27 -0700   http://www.emmanuel-boston.org/   Far from closed and abandoned ... I think the sentence in the history regarding the decade 1960-1970 probably tells the tale ... the old money left.   I cannot, however, imagine such an active music program as what they have today (and obviously with the cash to support it) WITHOUT there being some interest in saving the Casavant.   I believe, though I'm not sure, that the present instrument is a Rodgers (!).   There was (I think) never a west-gallery console ... the entire double organ was controlled from the elegant console in the chancel (there might have been a small chapel console for the chapel organ); it was cut loose and "stored" in the basement, presumably to make room for the electronic (!!).   Bud      
(back) Subject: web page From: "Ryan C. Lander" <landerr@infoblvd.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:41:36 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00FD_01C31D7D.E0419DE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   There- a few tweaks later- It should be all fixed now. Sorry to any = =3D who couldnt get there- I kept changing stuff and re-uploading the page. = =3D Its set now, and Im off to bed...   Ryan   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00FD_01C31D7D.E0419DE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>There-&nbsp;&nbsp; a few tweaks =3D later-&nbsp; It=3D20 should be all fixed now.&nbsp; Sorry to any who couldnt get there-&nbsp; = =3D I kept=3D20 changing stuff and re-uploading the page.&nbsp; Its set now, and Im off = =3D to=3D20 bed...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Ryan</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_00FD_01C31D7D.E0419DE0--    
(back) Subject: Tuba (Trumpet) Tunes From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:41:22 EDT     --part1_7f.3757f4bf.2bf98232_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Gordon Jacob "Festal Flourish" An Album of Praise Oxford University Press   Michael McCabe Two Trumpet Tunes (C major & A major) H. W. Gray / Belwin Mills     --part1_7f.3757f4bf.2bf98232_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SERIF" = FACE=3D3D"=3D Times New Roman" LANG=3D3D"0">Gordon Jacob<BR> "Festal Flourish"<BR> An Album of Praise<BR> Oxford University Press<BR> <BR> Michael McCabe<BR> Two Trumpet Tunes (C major &amp; A major)<BR> H. W. Gray / Belwin Mills<BR> <BR> </FONT></HTML> --part1_7f.3757f4bf.2bf98232_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Side Saddle Explanation From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:49:33 -0400   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0600_01C31D7E.FC6C32E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Dear Keith and List,   A few years ago, I saw and heard a fine Organ by Lynn Dobson, at the =3D University of Delaware. It is exactly the type of mechanical instrument = =3D of which you speak. Take a look at < http://www.dobsonorgan.com/html/instruments/op74_newark.html >=3D20 and if you write to Lynn Dobson, he can tell you more about the how and = =3D why of this lovely instrument.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com=3D20 ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: Kzimmer0817@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2003 2:34 PM Subject: Side Saddle Explanation     List,   Can somebody explain to me (1) the definition of and (2) the mechanics = =3D behind the "side saddle" arrangement of a tracker organ.   I've seen a few examples of tracker organs in which the keydesk is on = =3D the "end" of the case instead of the back or front. I'm trying to =3D figure out how this works mechanically.   In contradistinction, I've tried to "back into" an understanding of =3D this by understanding what it is not. For example, a description of one = =3D of the organs listed on Organ Clearninghouse (organ #2034) implies that = =3D this organ gives the illusion of being a side-saddle arrangement, but is = =3D not. Apparently, the organ is considerably deeper than it is wide and =3D gives the "illusion" of having the keydesk on the end.   1. Is a side-saddle arrangement truly one in which keydesk is =3D oriented towards one "end" of the windchest as opposed to either the =3D front or back?   2. If the above is true, how is this "turn" of trackers effected? In = =3D most tracker organs, the line of keys and that of the pallets form two =3D almost parallel lines. In the simplest case of a chromatic chest, =3D there's a line drawn (in the form of trackers, backfalls, stickers. and = =3D pull-downs) between each key and its pallet. In more complicated chest = =3D layouts (diatonic, major third, etc.) roller boards are used, but the =3D effect remains to connect each key in its line to a pallet of a parallel = =3D line.   3. If my understanding of side-saddle is true, then this row of keys = =3D forms its line, but the line of pallets runs perpendicular to the key =3D line - like a T or L. It's conceivable that each tracker run could =3D include a right angle turn to the left or right (whichever is the case) = =3D to reach its pallet.   4. Or . . . does side-saddle simply mean that the organ is turned =3D sideways to the room? A 3 manual tracker organ with sizeable divisions = =3D could end up being quite deep if it's manual divisions were one in front = =3D of the other. Therefore, the organ might be turned sideways to the room = =3D having its swell shades on the "end" of each swell box instead of the =3D front. IOW, the organist x-ray vision might see Great, Choir, Swell =3D lined up behind each other, the audience might see Great, Choir, Swell =3D arranged from left to right. With shades open, the audience might be =3D looking directly at the treble end of each division. I don't think that = =3D this is what is meant by "side saddle" arrangement.   Thanks for your explanations, Keith Zimmerman Commerce, Georgia ------=3D_NextPart_000_0600_01C31D7E.FC6C32E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Dear Keith and List,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>A few years ago, I saw and heard =3D a&nbsp;fine Organ=3D20 by Lynn Dobson, at the University of Delaware. It is exactly the type of = =3D   mechanical instrument of which you speak.&nbsp;Take a look =3D at</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>&lt; <A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.dobsonorgan.com/html/instruments/op74_newark.html">htt= =3D p://www.dobsonorgan.com/html/instruments/op74_newark.html</A>&nbsp;&gt;=3D2= 0 </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>and if you write to Lynn Dobson, he = can =3D tell you=3D20 more about the how and why of this lovely instrument.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Malcolm Wechsler</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.mander-organs.com">www.mander-organs.com</A> =3D </FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =3D BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A title=3D3DKzimmer0817@aol.com=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:Kzimmer0817@aol.com">Kzimmer0817@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =3D title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org">pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 18, 2003 2:34 = =3D PM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Side Saddle =3D Explanation</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT lang=3D3D0 =3D face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">List,<BR><BR>Can somebody explain to me (1) the = =3D definition=3D20 of and (2) the mechanics behind the "side saddle" arrangement of a =3D tracker=3D20 organ.<BR><BR>I've seen a few examples of tracker organs in which the = =3D keydesk=3D20 is on the "end" of the case instead of the back or front.&nbsp; I'm =3D trying to=3D20 figure out how this works mechanically.<BR><BR>In contradistinction, =3D I've=3D20 tried to "back into" an understanding of this by understanding what it = =3D is=3D20 not.&nbsp; For example, a description of one of the organs listed on =3D Organ=3D20 Clearninghouse (organ #2034) implies that this organ gives the =3D illusion of=3D20 being a side-saddle arrangement, but is not. Apparently, the organ = is=3D20 considerably deeper than it is wide and gives the "illusion" of having = =3D the=3D20 keydesk on the end.<BR><BR>1.&nbsp; Is a side-saddle arrangement truly = =3D one in=3D20 which keydesk is oriented towards one "end" of the windchest as =3D opposed to=3D20 either the front or back?<BR><BR>2.&nbsp; If the above is true, how is = =3D this=3D20 "turn" of trackers effected?&nbsp; In most tracker organs, the line of = =3D keys=3D20 and that of the pallets form two almost parallel lines.&nbsp; In the =3D simplest=3D20 case of a chromatic chest, there's a line drawn (in the form of =3D trackers,=3D20 backfalls, stickers. and pull-downs) between each key and its =3D pallet.&nbsp; In=3D20 more complicated chest layouts (diatonic, major third, etc.) roller =3D boards are=3D20 used, but the effect remains to connect each key in its line to a =3D pallet of a=3D20 parallel line.<BR><BR>3.&nbsp; If my understanding of side-saddle is =3D true,=3D20 then this row of keys forms its line, but the line of pallets runs=3D20 perpendicular to the key line - like a T or L.&nbsp;&nbsp; It's =3D conceivable=3D20 that each tracker run could include a right angle turn to the left or = =3D right=3D20 (whichever is the case) to reach its pallet.<BR><BR>4.&nbsp; Or . . . = =3D does=3D20 side-saddle simply mean that the organ is turned sideways to the =3D room?&nbsp; A=3D20 3 manual tracker organ with sizeable divisions could end up being =3D quite deep=3D20 if it's manual divisions were one in front of the other.&nbsp; =3D Therefore, the=3D20 organ might be turned sideways to the room having its swell shades on = =3D the=3D20 "end" of each swell box instead of the front.&nbsp; IOW, the organist = =3D x-ray=3D20 vision might see Great, Choir, Swell lined up behind each other, the =3D audience=3D20 might see Great, Choir, Swell arranged from left to right.&nbsp; With = =3D shades=3D20 open, the audience might be looking directly at the treble end of each = =3D   division.&nbsp; I don't think that this is what is meant by "side =3D saddle"=3D20 arrangement.<BR><BR>Thanks for your explanations,<BR>Keith=3D20 Zimmerman<BR>Commerce, Georgia</FONT> =3D </FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0600_01C31D7E.FC6C32E0--      
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Organ Makers From: <Tspiggle@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:09:02 EDT   The important things are:   1. Is there a repairman in your area that can fix it? 2. Will the company still be around in 20 years to furnish parts.   Tom  
(back) Subject: Key Action Questions From: "Paul Soulek" <soulek@frontiernet.net> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 20:37:34 -0500   Does anyone have (or know of) a website that describes the difference in key actions? I know how the "direct-electric" type action works (built one chest using that), but there is a different type of action on the other chest. Would anyone be able to help me out?   Thanks! Paul  
(back) Subject: Re: Side Saddle Explanation From: "V. David Barton" <vdbarton@erols.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:45:29 -0400   Keith wrote: Can somebody explain to me (1) the definition of and (2) the mechanics behind the "side saddle" arrangement of a tracker organ.   I've seen a few examples of tracker organs in which the keydesk is on the "end" of the case instead of the back or front. I'm trying to figure out how this works mechanically.   I respond: Thanks for a thoughtful and interesting question, which in turn, suggests another. There is at least one organ I know of with mechanical action (Christ Lutheran Church, 16th Street, Washington DC) in which the organ is situated in two cases on either side of a rear gallery, and the detached console, facing rearward, is nearly completely off to the right (as you = face the gallery from below) side. Now, how on earth can these trackers work, and provide anything like equal touch throughout the compass of both manuals?   Malcolm? Anyone else?      
(back) Subject: Re: Key Action Questions From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 21:53:53 EDT     --part1_22.39f557c1.2bf99331_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/18/2003 9:37:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, soulek@frontiernet.net writes:     > Does anyone have (or know of) a website that describes the difference in > key actions? I know how the "direct-electric" type action works (built > one chest using that), but there is a different type of action on the > other chest. Would anyone be able to help me out? > >   I am not sure about many websites, but you can go to the AIO website to = get a thorough explanation of the Blackinton system electro-pneumatic slider = chest design that is used by many current builders.   My suggestion is that you also review your copy (if you have one) of = Barnes" "Contemporary American Organ" which gives chest design diagrams for = several builders chests including Moller, Skinner, Kimball and Austin. this will = give you some useful information.   Rick in VA   --part1_22.39f557c1.2bf99331_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 5/18/2=3D 003 9:37:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, soulek@frontiernet.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Does anyone have (or know = o=3D f) a website that describes the difference in <BR>key actions? I know how the "direct-electric" type action works (built <BR>one chest using that), but there is a different type of action on the <BR>other chest. Would anyone be able to help me out? <BR> <BR></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR> <BR>I am not sure about many websites, but you can go to the AIO website = to=3D20=3D get a thorough explanation of the Blackinton system electro-pneumatic = slider=3D chest design that is used by many current builders. <BR> <BR>My suggestion is that you also review your copy (if you have one) of = Bar=3D nes" "Contemporary American Organ" which gives chest design diagrams for = sev=3D eral builders chests including Moller, Skinner, Kimball and Austin. this = wil=3D l give you some useful information. <BR> <BR>Rick in VA</FONT></HTML>   --part1_22.39f557c1.2bf99331_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Side Saddle Explanation From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 18:58:34 -0700   Good builders can do amazing things with tracker runs ... look at Weingarten, where the action CIRCLES a window to get to the Kronwerk; or one of Hal Gober's organs ... it's built AROUND the west doors, with the console on the south side.   I can't think of specific examples at the moment, but there are organs, both ancient and modern, divided on either side of the choir stalls, with the keydesk on one side, and the runs going under and across the chancel (!).   I don't even wanna THINK about what's involved in a REVERSED console, which was very popular in South Germany, and with German-American builders like Koehnken & Grimm in Cincinnati ... the touch on K & G's reversed-console organs was light and plucky like a good harpsichord ... as it was on ALL their organs that hadn't been tinkered with.   Cheers,   Bud   V. David Barton wrote: > Keith wrote: > Can somebody explain to me (1) the definition of and (2) the mechanics > behind the "side saddle" arrangement of a tracker organ. > > I've seen a few examples of tracker organs in which the keydesk is on = the > "end" of the case instead of the back or front. I'm trying to figure = out > how this works mechanically. > > I respond: > Thanks for a thoughtful and interesting question, which in turn, = suggests > another. There is at least one organ I know of with mechanical action > (Christ Lutheran Church, 16th Street, Washington DC) in which the organ = is > situated in two cases on either side of a rear gallery, and the detached > console, facing rearward, is nearly completely off to the right (as you = face > the gallery from below) side. Now, how on earth can these trackers = work, > and provide anything like equal touch throughout the compass of both > manuals? > > Malcolm? Anyone else? > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >