PipeChat Digest #3685 - Tuesday, May 20, 2003
 
Re: Great Packages or something or other.
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Reedless Oboe in UK?
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Handel Organ Concertos
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Handel Organ Concertos
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Great Packington
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
SIDESADDLE
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Organ Concert
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: Dupre and Distler recordings
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: Electronic Organ Makers
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Handel Organ Concertos
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com>
Re: Farnam's organ
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Wedding Story
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Tracker runs, nee side saddle actions
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
RE: Reedless Oboe in UK?
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
OHS Convention Hotel reservation cut-off
  by "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org>
Re: Great Packington
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Great Packington
  by "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net>
Re: OHS Convention Hotel reservation cut-off
  by "Travis L. Evans" <tevansmo@prodigy.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Great Packages or something or other. From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:45:16 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Which just goes to show that my knowledge of historic organs in the UK is, at best, thin. I probably know more about organs in Holland and Germany.   Anyway, they all sound much the same to me.....   There's an organ close to me built in 1860, which, if it had the name Snetzler on it, would pass for the same if one happened to be blind.   Who the dickens were Glyn & Parker?   Did they use real wood?   NEVER TRUST A MUSICIAN   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK           --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote: > > ----- > The instrument, however, is not a Snetzler. For a > long time it was ascribed > to Richard Bridge, but during restoration a label > came to light that showed > that it was the work of Glyn & Parker of Manchester, > 1749   __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at = http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm  
(back) Subject: Re: Reedless Oboe in UK? From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:50:53 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Which reminds me.....   I used to play one of the best Binns organs ever made, which had been slightly modified tonally.   Using the Binns "fry up" Viole d'Orechetra and the Nazard produced THE most wonderful Orchestral Oboe.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   PS: I shall get around to the labial Oboe thing when I get a moment.   --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote: > The Oboe Gamba was not really quite a labial Oboe, > but more of an intense > orchestral string   __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at = http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm  
(back) Subject: Re: Handel Organ Concertos From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:57:15 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   Something doesn't seem quite right here.   I don't know the answer, but I'd like to bet that Lady Jeans and the Dame realised that the pitch had been sharpened, and the extra length tuning collars were probably an attempt to take the organ back to where it had been before.   I may be wrong of course, and they may have been temporarily insane at the time..........   I bet someone knows.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > > E. Power Biggs made the recording at Great > Packington. > It seems the pipes > were > cut off and after the recording secession extra long > tuning collars were employed to regain the old > pitch.   __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at = http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm  
(back) Subject: Re: Handel Organ Concertos From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 13:16:08 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I am piqued!   I just KNOW that the stops I suggested will work....all four of them. We are talking rural England here, not Atlantic City.   In fact, as I sit here beneath a black shroud, rubbing the screen, I can see a strange name appearing.....   It says......   Br....Bro.....Brown of Canterbury   Whoooooooooooooooo!   Spiritually yours,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote: > > > > Nobody can tell from a written specification which > stops to use > > This is the most sensible comment I have heard in a > long time     __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at = http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm  
(back) Subject: Great Packington From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 03:04:25 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C31E7C.84F2F9C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   I believe the challenge at the time was playing the instrument with a =3D modern orchestra. Strings can tune anywhere but modern oboes and flutes = =3D are not as accommodating. I don't think baroque instruments were an =3D option for whatever reason. That recording is close to me because I grew = =3D up with it. I respect the work of love Biggs greatly, but I am sad that = =3D the organ was altered, it just doesn't seem right to do that to such an = =3D instrument. They also had to run a very long power chord to feed the =3D blower which was installed for the recording as well. More on this =3D subject can be found in the Owens' Biggs biography. Robert         ----- Original Message -----=3D20 From: RonSeverin@aol.com=3D20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=3D20 Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 12:24 AM Subject: Re: Handel Organ Concertos     Hi Bud:   E. Power Biggs made the recording at Great Packington.=3D20 There was a great controversy of why the organ needed an alteration of it's pipes by Suzi Jeans, and Dame=3D20 Gillian Weir during the 50's. It seems the pipes were cut off and after the recording secession extra long tuning collars were employed to regain the old pitch. Jeans and Weir maintained that this was an untouched Handel organ, why cut it up especially to play Handel's music. I'm wondering the same thing.   Ron Severin=3D20   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C31E7C.84F2F9C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>I believe the challenge at the = time=3D20 was&nbsp;playing the instrument with a modern orchestra. Strings can =3D tune=3D20 anywhere but modern oboes and flutes are not as accommodating. I don't =3D think=3D20 baroque instruments were an option for whatever reason. That recording =3D is close=3D20 to me because I grew up with it. I respect the work of love Biggs =3D greatly, but I=3D20 am sad that the organ was altered, it just doesn't seem right to do that = =3D to such=3D20 an instrument. They also had to run a very long power chord to feed the = =3D blower=3D20 which was installed for the recording as well.&nbsp; More on this =3D subject can be=3D20 found in the Owens' Biggs biography. &nbsp; Robert</FONT></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=3D20 style=3D3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =3D black"><B>From:</B>=3D20 <A href=3D3D"mailto:RonSeverin@aol.com"=3D20 title=3D3DRonSeverin@aol.com>RonSeverin@aol.com</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org"=3D20 title=3D3Dpipechat@pipechat.org>pipechat@pipechat.org</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, May 20, 2003 =3D 12:24=3D20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Handel Organ =3D Concertos</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT face=3D3DArial =3D lang=3D3D0 size=3D3D2=3D20 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF">Hi Bud:<BR><BR>E. Power Biggs made the recording = =3D at Great=3D20 Packington. <BR>There was a great controversy of why the organ =3D needed<BR>an=3D20 alteration of it's pipes by Suzi Jeans, and Dame <BR>Gillian Weir =3D during the=3D20 50's. It seems the pipes were<BR>cut off and after the recording =3D secession=3D20 extra long<BR>tuning collars were employed to regain the old<BR>pitch. = =3D Jeans=3D20 and Weir maintained that this was an<BR>untouched Handel organ, why =3D cut it up=3D20 especially to<BR>play Handel's music. I'm wondering the same =3D thing.<BR><BR>Ron=3D20 Severin </FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0017_01C31E7C.84F2F9C0--    
(back) Subject: SIDESADDLE From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:28:50 -0400   There is an E. & G.G. Hook & Hastings at the Congregational Church of Christ in North Leominster, Mass which is one of only two (I think) such pipe organs which they made, with the console to the side of the case. It is Opus 982, 1880, 1 manual, 10 registers. The console is to the left side, and the manual action passes at 45 = degrees to pallets at the front of the chest. Chromatic chest; treble pipes at = the console (left) end, Basses and Pedal Bourdon at the opposte end. Stop sliders are attached to action at the bass (right!) end. The case is of gilded pipes arranged 5-4-9-4-5. The 2 flats of 4 are EE-BB of the 16' Bourdon Bass and the remainder the 8' Open Diapason basses. The other pipes are enclosed behind vertical swell shades on both the front a = console sides. Flat pedal board. Info. from Boston Organ Club Newsletter 1973.   Judy Ollikkala  
(back) Subject: Organ Concert From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 09:28:51 -0400   Thursday, May 29 at 7pm Cathedral of St. Paul Chatham St., Worcester MA   Ascension Day   Messaien L'Ascension Ian Watson, organist   Admission free  
(back) Subject: Re: Dupre and Distler recordings From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 04:45:27 -0500         > Beau Surratt wrote: > > > Could anyone recommend some good recordings of the Dupre Symphonie > > Passion and the Distler Trio Sonata? >   Hi Beau:   > I don't know about the Distler, but the Dupre, Symphonie-Passion was released many years ago (1986) on the Motette label # 10981 featuring = Daniel Roth at Saint-Sulpice. It is glorious ! Not sure if it is in print. = I am unfamiliar with the works of Distler so I shall put that on my list of future listening.   Robert, Blue Mounds, WI    
(back) Subject: Re: Electronic Organ Makers From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:44:15 -0400   At 09:09 PM 5/18/2003 -0400, you wrote: >The important things are: > >1. Is there a repairman in your area that can fix it? >2. Will the company still be around in 20 years to furnish parts. > >Tom   Tom,   1. Yes very important. We have people in Ontario, Canada selling E-Orgs who can't service or won't service. The best that most of them do is get connected with an independant service tech, but nearly all of them are older guys, guys who have been servicing 30 or more years. Not likely to be servicing organs in 20 years.   2. Wouldn't it be nice to know which organ companies are going to be around in 20 years. My guess is that the number of organ sales is going = to decrease, some major organ (electronic) manufactureres are going to get = out of the business or go bankrupt, and the number of small firms is going to increase. You may see the decrease in local dealers, and the companies going to regional sales agents. And yes, it is going to affect service, not for the better. It is all in the name of keeping the price down. You =   may see on average better installations, especially in churches, as the factory will have more control over that aspect of things.   I think that the next 6 months to 2 years are going to be very telling as to how the organ business is headed. Profitability in this business is tough at the moment.   Regards,   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: Handel Organ Concertos From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@classicorgan.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:52:25 -0400   At 11:51 PM 5/19/2003 +0100, you wrote: >Dear List, > >I have a performance of Handel's F major Organ Concerto coming up (op. 4 >no. 4) and I wonder if anyone could offer advice on the sorts of >registration I should be using... I have a recording that seems to jump >between manuals and registrations but it just seems a bit too >over-the-top. Anyone performed this and got any other advice to give >me?! > >The organ I'm performing on has the following registration: > >Great: >Open Diapason 8' >Stopped Diapason 8' >Dulciana 8' >Principal 4' >Wald Flute 4' >Mixture II >Octave Sw to Gt >Sw to Gt >Sub-octave Sw to Gt > > >Swell: >Giegen Prinicpal 8' >Gedact 8' >Salicional 8' >Gemshorn 4' >Twelfth 2 2/3' >Fifteenth 2' >Oboe 8' >Octave coupler >Sub octave coupler > > >Pedal: >Bourdon 16' >Quint 10 2/3' >Flute 8' >Octave Quint 5 1/3' >Flute 4' >Gt to Ped >Sw to Gt >Octave Sw to Gt     >Steve >Canterbury, UK     Steve,   My impression is that Handel would have used a lot of unison stops like = the Stopped Diapason type, plus a 4' or 2', possibly a quint. Nothing too heavy most of the time. My guess too is that Handel, being the colourful musician he was, would have varied the tone at least periodically.   BTW, my favourite recordings of the Handel concerti are the ones by Ton Koopman and Daniel Chrozempa. Simon Preston's efforts are good too. = Peter Hurford's are good, but not as interesting as the first two I mentioned. = I don't know if any of these are currently available.   Arie V.      
(back) Subject: Re: Farnam's organ From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:52:54 -0400   On 5/19/03 5:13 PM, "Oboe32@aol.com" <Oboe32@aol.com> wrote:   > a fairly large two manual tracker of German flavor.   There is a non-tiny von Beckeratch, maybe two years old, (II/20something?) sitting in Trinity Lutheran Church (free-standing, on the nave floor), = 100th St., Manhattan. Last I heard, the vB rep was looking for a buyer. He's based in the NYC area (Westchester County, I think). Info from me would = be very unreliable; but you (or SOMEONE) may want to contact him. I think there's a website about it; I've seen photos SOMEwhere.   Immanuel, Boston: Anglican? Lutheran? (I've not known Anglicans to use that name for a parish, but it is fairly common among Lutherans; but what = do I know?)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Wedding Story From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 11:23:04 -0400   This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not = understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.   ----__JNP_000_1c53.5521.27bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit     On Tue, 20 May 2003 00:33:08 +0100 (BST) =3D?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=3D20Mitchell?=3D <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> writes: > Hello, > > Well Cheryl asked for some funnies........     Long ago, I played a wedding in a small Pennsylvania rural church. We won't discuss the instrument.   As the various couples in the "parade" began waltzing down the aisle, I watched one of the bridesmaids stop, jerk, and then suddenly continue - minus one shoe. I looked down and saw that the heel was stuck in one of those old fashioned heating grates in the aisle floor. (The type that are directly over a "gravity" warm air furnace, coal of course). The next bridesmaid executed a beautiful and graceful dip as she swooped down to scoop up the stuck shoe, not even breaking stride.. Coming along right behind her, the bride simply disappeared!   Of course, the grate had come up with the shoe, and all happened so fast that both of the bride's legs entered the abyss. Fortunately she was arrested after approximately three feet of fall, due to her rather steatopygian figure.   The wedding resumed with a few bruises and scrapes, and a wedding gown that appeared to have been tie-dyed black below the waist.   Jim ----__JNP_000_1c53.5521.27bb Content-Type: text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3Dcontent-type = content=3D3Dtext/html;charset=3D3Diso-8859-1> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=3D3DGENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY bottomMargin=3D3D0 leftMargin=3D3D3 topMargin=3D3D0 = rightMargin=3D3D3> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>On Tue, 20 May 2003 00:33:08 +0100 (BST) = =3D3D?iso-8859-1?q?Colin=3D3D=3D 20Mitchell?=3D3D=3D20 &lt;<A = href=3D3D"mailto:cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk">cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk</A>&gt;=3D =3D20 writes:<BR>&gt; Hello,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Well Cheryl asked for some=3D20 funnies........<BR></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Long ago, I played a wedding in a small Pennsylvania rural = church.&=3D nbsp; We=3D20 won't discuss the instrument.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>As the various couples in the "parade" began waltzing down the aisle, = =3D I=3D20 watched one of the bridesmaids stop, jerk,&nbsp;and then suddenly continue = =3D -=3D20 minus one shoe.&nbsp; I looked down and saw that the heel was stuck in one = =3D of=3D20 those old fashioned heating grates in the aisle floor. (The type that = are=3D20 directly over a "gravity" warm air furnace, coal of course).&nbsp; The = next=3D =3D20 bridesmaid executed a beautiful and graceful dip as she swooped down to = =3D scoop up=3D20 the stuck shoe, not even breaking stride..&nbsp; Coming along right behind = =3D her,=3D20 the bride simply disappeared!</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Of course, the grate had come up with the shoe, and all happened so = =3D fast=3D20 that both of the bride's legs entered the abyss.&nbsp; Fortunately she = was=3D =3D20 arrested after approximately three feet of fall, due to her=3D20 rather&nbsp;steatopygian figure.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>The wedding resumed with a few bruises and scrapes, and a wedding = gown=3D that=3D20 appeared to have been tie-dyed black below the waist.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Jim<BR></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ----__JNP_000_1c53.5521.27bb--    
(back) Subject: Tracker runs, nee side saddle actions From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:10:34 -0400     On Sun, 18 May 2003 18:58:34 -0700 quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: > Good builders can do amazing things with tracker runs ... look at > Weingarten, where the action CIRCLES a window to get to the > Kronwerk     I speak only as an arm chair traveler, but when I look at the Weingarten photos, I am sure I see trackers running straight up in front of the window!   I could be wrong. I was, once, last year.     Jim  
(back) Subject: RE: Reedless Oboe in UK? From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:23:17 -0400   I played an Estey in Toledo, OH that had a reedless oboe. I didn't know there was a such thing as a reedless oboe until I read about it on here. Now I know why I couldn't find the oboe stop in the chamber! I was = looking for a reed stop as you would expect an oboe to be but it wasn't a reed!   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Colin Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:51 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Reedless Oboe in UK?     Hello,   Which reminds me.....   I used to play one of the best Binns organs ever made, which had been slightly modified tonally.   Using the Binns "fry up" Viole d'Orechetra and the Nazard produced THE most wonderful Orchestral Oboe.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   PS: I shall get around to the labial Oboe thing when I get a moment.   --- "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> wrote: > The Oboe Gamba was not really quite a labial Oboe, > but more of an intense > orchestral string   __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: OHS Convention Hotel reservation cut-off From: "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:33:38 -0400   This coming Monday is the last day that rooms are likely to remain = available for all nights of the OHS Convention, June 19-26, and for the special convention rate of $93 for single, double, triple, or quad occupancy.   If you have not done so already, please make your reservations at the = Crowne Plaza Hotel in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. Unreserved rooms will be released for general sale, the price will increase, and some days will become unavailable after Monday, May 26.   Please call the hotel at 717-234-5021 to reserve. It is best to call the hotel Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., and speak to a = reservationist in Harrisburg. In busy times, and on nights and weekends, reservation = calls are shunted to a national reservations service which may not have accurate information about room availability, especially as the cut-off date approaches.   Bill      
(back) Subject: Re: Great Packington From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:45:18 EDT     --part1_127.29c93319.2bfbb59e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Hi Robert:   There might have been at least two solutions without cutting off pipes. Remove the right number of bass pipes and more everything down. You don't need the top two or three notes on the keyboards. The other, use period instruments as Hogwood does for the St. Martin in the Fields recordings. I'm sure there were Baroque ensembles around even then. Third solution: a modern continuo organ of three or four stops, as there are several lying around in English Cathedrals. By the time they got through fooling around with the Great Packington organ for the recordings it ceased to be an authentic Handelian organ anyway, it was altered. By then, it was a Handelian organ in name only, altered as to pitch and temperment. If the pipes were cut off as mentioned, the scaling and voicing would be off, and steady wind provided by a blower would change the old sound into something different. If period instruments were used, and the organ left as Handel knew it, might have been much more scholarly and true to the music. The organ dated from 1747. I'm still confused as to why it had to be done in the first place. Butchered.   Ron Severin   --part1_127.29c93319.2bfbb59e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Hi Robert:<BR> <BR> There might have been at least two solutions without cutting<BR> off pipes. Remove the right number of bass pipes and more everything<BR> down. You don't need the top two or three notes on the keyboards.<BR> The other, use period instruments as Hogwood does for the<BR> St. Martin in the Fields recordings. I'm sure there were Baroque<BR> ensembles around even then. Third solution: a modern continuo<BR> organ of three or four stops, as there are several lying around<BR> in English Cathedrals. By the time they got through fooling around<BR> with the Great Packington organ for the recordings it ceased to be an<BR> authentic Handelian organ anyway, it was altered. By then, it was<BR> a Handelian organ in name only, altered as to pitch and temperment.<BR> If the pipes were cut off as mentioned, the scaling and voicing would<BR> be off, and steady wind provided by a blower would change the old<BR> sound into something different. If period instruments were used,<BR> and the organ left as Handel knew it, might have been much more<BR> scholarly and true to the music. The organ dated from 1747. I'm still<BR> confused as to why it had to be done in the first place. Butchered.<BR> <BR> Ron Severin</FONT></HTML>   --part1_127.29c93319.2bfbb59e_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: Great Packington From: "Robert Eversman" <highnote@mhtc.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 07:52:02 -0500   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0129_01C31EA4.B31B81A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Hi Ron, Good points and I totally agree. As much as I love the recording = =3D it wasn't worth the sacrifice in my opinion. Robert     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0129_01C31EA4.B31B81A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D3D"text/html; charset=3D3Diso-8859-1" =3D http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.00.2614.3500" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3D3DArial size=3D3D2>Hi Ron, Good points and I totally =3D agree. As much as=3D20 I love the recording it wasn't worth the sacrifice in my opinion.=3D20 Robert</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=3D20 style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: = =3D 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: =3D 0px">&nbsp;</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0129_01C31EA4.B31B81A0--    
(back) Subject: Re: OHS Convention Hotel reservation cut-off From: "Travis L. Evans" <tevansmo@prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 10:24:43 -0700 (PDT)   Just a note on this. When I called I got forwarded to the national reservation office, even after calling the hotel in Harrisburg directly. However they did have the OHS 'special rate' at that office. Travis   --- "William T. Van Pelt" <bill@organsociety.org> wrote: > > Please call the hotel at 717-234-5021 to reserve. > It is best to call the > hotel Monday through Friday, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m., and > speak to a reservationist > in Harrisburg. In busy times, and on nights and > weekends, reservation calls > are shunted to a national reservations service which > may not have accurate > information about room availability, especially as > the cut-off date > approaches. > > Bill > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital > organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >