PipeChat Digest #3698 - Sunday, May 25, 2003
 
RE: Tremont Temple
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Tremont Temple.. date
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
RE: pedal-boards
  by "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org>
Emmanuel Church Boston
  by "Chester H Berry" <cberry@pop.burgoyne.com>
Phoenix Organs
  by "Chester H Berry" <cberry@pop.burgoyne.com>
Be my guest
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Be my guest
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Be my guest
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: 32 note pedal vs. 24 note pedal
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
Re: pedal-boards
  by <Cremona502@cs.com>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Tremont Temple From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 06:58:03 -0400   Does anyone know what year the Casavant was built?   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of = David Baker Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:43 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Tremont Temple   In response to the inquiry about Tremont Temple Baptist Church in Boston, there is (or was) a huge Casavant installed there. It has not functioned in many years. During the last National AGO Convention in Boston, I was working with Guy Therien (recently deceased, alas) and we surveyed it for a rebuild. I think the price came in at around several hundred thousand to do. I seem to recall that it is (or was) in a very shallow chamber on several levels. They never spent any money on it, so far as I know, and recently installed an Allen. Go to this link for more info: http://www.allenorgan.com/newsletter/news74.html   David Baker     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Re: Tremont Temple.. date From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 14:08:13 -0500   The Tremont Temple Casavant was installed in 1922 as opus #937 retaining = the case of the 1900 Jesse Woodberry.   Sand Lawn   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2003 5:58 AM Subject: RE: Tremont Temple     > Does anyone know what year the Casavant was built? > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of David > Baker > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 10:43 PM > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Tremont Temple > > In response to the inquiry about Tremont Temple Baptist Church in > Boston, there is (or was) a huge Casavant installed there. It has not > functioned in many years. During the last National AGO Convention in > Boston, I was working with Guy Therien (recently deceased, alas) and we > surveyed it for a rebuild. I think the price came in at around several > hundred thousand to do. I seem to recall that it is (or was) in a very > shallow chamber on several levels. They never spent any money on it, > so far as I know, and recently installed an Allen. Go to this link for > more info: http://www.allenorgan.com/newsletter/news74.html > > David Baker > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: RE: pedal-boards From: "Nance, Daryel" <DNance@svdp-edu.org> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:17:23 -0500   There is a cute page on the Ahlborn-Galanti site with pedal board graphics showing the standard pedalboards: AGO; Malines; BDO concave; BDO concave radiating   http://www.ahlborn-galanti.com/chronicler1/pedalboards.html#MALINES%20Pedal= b oard   "I done 20 years at hard labor" on a Rieger 30 noter (..what, the BDO concave radiating). Transitioning to the AGO isn't a problem, once you accept that you're going to keep having to go back and forth. Then the brain seems to take over and shifts gears, like Bud said.   D.     Daryel Nance St.Vincent de Paul Church, Houston mailto:dnance@svdp-edu.org www.svmusic.info ; www.dompaulbenoit.com ; www.church-organist.com ; www.daryeln.com   "...the only ones among you who will really be happy are those who sought and found how to serve." Albert Schwietzer         -----Original Message----- From: quilisma@socal.rr.com [mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 8:34 PM To: PipeChat Subject: pedal-boards     Over the years I have observed something, but I've never figured out the reason WHY: people who START on non - "standard" pedal-boards have no trouble adapting to AGO or other boards; people who DON'T do.   The chronology of "my" pedal-boards:   Estey - 27-note (I think) - flat, radiating Hammond Spinet - 12 notes Aeolian - 30-note - radiating, SLIGHTLY concave Allen - 25-note - flat, radiating - about the same as a Hammond Church = Model Allen - 32-note - "Princess" pedals - short sharps, concave, radiating Austin - 32-note - AGO   At that point, I went off to conservatory to study organ, only having had the use of an AGO pedal-board (the Austin) for ONE YEAR. Didn't faze = me.   The ONLY one that ever REALLY threw me was the historic little 1m Johnson organ in the UCC in National City, CA ... I think it had something like 18 pedals on a small, short, flat board ... CC to tenor F, maybe. I could NOT get the hang of that ... it didn't want to play like a spinet, yet it didn't want to play like a regular clavier either (chuckle).   Most of the 19th century organs around Cincinnati had flat, straight 27-note boards ... since I traveled around a lot with my choir in those days, I did quite a bit of playing on them. Some things were easier; others not.   Having and learning on an AGO standard is reasonable, as long as one doesn't intend to play recitals in Europe, or on historic organs in this country. Playing a couple of scales on a non-standard board seems to allow me to "shift gears" and I'm ready to go (grin).   Cheers,   Bud         "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Emmanuel Church Boston From: "Chester H Berry" <cberry@pop.burgoyne.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:02:12 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0072_01C322D7.01031C80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Subject: Emmanuel Church, Boston From: <quilisma@socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 14:31:15 -0700   Speaking of Mr. Farnham's Masterpiece, is there anyone on these lists=3D20 who is old enough to have HEARD it? It's been derelict ever since *I*=3D20 can remember.   Cheers,   Bud   --------   Bud (and list),   Emmanuel was quite hospitable when I was in Boston on business in the =3D mid 1970s. The Casavant was not in great shape then, but was enjoyable = =3D in a quiet church in the evening. As I remember, the tone was similar =3D to other Casavants of the period (several of comparable size survive, =3D albeit with varying degrees of modification, in the Montreal area) The = =3D stoplist (viewable on the Organ Clearing House website) at:   http://www.organclearinghouse.com/instruments/detail/1234e.html   pretty much tells the story -- far more upperwork than most builders =3D would be using in 1917. Full but not fat principals, with lots of quite = =3D moderate 2d and 3d Diapasons. Bach (to my ears) quite acceptable =3D although not 1970s Baroque (by ANY means!) Chorus reeds that complete =3D the ensemble to just short of overwhelming. Strings that three decades = =3D ago would have been considered quite bright. A large selection of =3D flutes. Virtually everything blends. Virtually any sound could be =3D created if you were willing to dig it out (possibly using lots of =3D couplers, and they were provided -- look at the photo of the console on = =3D the OHS site). Overall, more like what the Boston builders would have =3D provided two decades earlier, than like what Skinner would have provided = =3D then.   I'd agree that to today's ears, the instrument would be quite =3D acceptable. I just wish I had a place to put it. Three years ago at =3D the Boston OHS Convention, there were plans to have the instrument fully = =3D restored (costs being roughly estimated at $2 million). The Rodgers 960 = =3D was reportedly an interim makeshift so that the church could have sounds = =3D on Sundays. I'd love to hear what changed their minds -- anyone know?   /s/Chester H Berry Salt Lake City, UTAH       ------=3D_NextPart_000_0072_01C322D7.01031C80 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.100" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Subject: Emmanuel Church, Boston<BR>From: &lt;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:quilisma@socal.rr.com">quilisma@socal.rr.com</A>&gt;<BR>Da= =3D te: Sun,=3D20 18 May 2003 14:31:15 -0700<BR><BR>Speaking of Mr. Farnham's Masterpiece, = =3D is=3D20 there anyone on these lists <BR>who is old enough to have HEARD it? It's = =3D been=3D20 derelict ever since *I* <BR>can =3D remember.<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Bud<BR></DIV> <DIV>--------</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Bud (and list),</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Emmanuel was quite hospitable when I was in Boston on business in =3D the mid=3D20 1970s.&nbsp; The Casavant was not in great shape then, but was enjoyable = =3D in a=3D20 quiet church in the evening.&nbsp; As I remember, the tone was similar =3D to other=3D20 Casavants of the period (several of comparable size survive, albeit with = =3D varying=3D20 degrees of modification, in the&nbsp;Montreal area)&nbsp; The stoplist =3D (viewable=3D20 on the Organ Clearing House website) at:</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.organclearinghouse.com/instruments/detail/1234e.html">= =3D http://www.organclearinghouse.com/instruments/detail/1234e.html</A></DIV>= =3D   <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>pretty much tells the story -- far more upperwork than most =3D builders would=3D20 be using in 1917.&nbsp; Full but not fat principals, with lots of quite = =3D moderate=3D20 2d and 3d Diapasons.&nbsp; Bach (to my ears) quite acceptable although =3D not 1970s=3D20 Baroque (by ANY means!) Chorus reeds that complete the ensemble to just = =3D short of=3D20 overwhelming.&nbsp; Strings that three decades ago would have been =3D considered=3D20 quite bright.&nbsp; A large selection of flutes.&nbsp; Virtually =3D everything=3D20 blends.&nbsp; Virtually any sound could be created if you were willing =3D to dig it=3D20 out (possibly using lots of couplers, and they were provided -- look at = =3D the=3D20 photo of the console on the OHS site).&nbsp; Overall, more like what the = =3D Boston=3D20 builders would have provided two decades earlier, than like what Skinner = =3D would=3D20 have provided then.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I'd agree that to today's ears, the instrument would be quite=3D20 acceptable.&nbsp; I just wish I had a place to put it.&nbsp; Three years = =3D ago at=3D20 the Boston OHS Convention, there were plans to have the instrument fully = =3D   restored (costs being roughly estimated at $2 million).&nbsp; The =3D Rodgers 960=3D20 was reportedly an interim&nbsp;makeshift so that the church could have =3D sounds on=3D20 Sundays.&nbsp; I'd love to hear what changed their minds -- anyone =3D know?</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>/s/Chester H Berry</DIV> <DIV>Salt Lake City, UTAH</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0072_01C322D7.01031C80--    
(back) Subject: Phoenix Organs From: "Chester H Berry" <cberry@pop.burgoyne.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 16:29:47 -0600   This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C322DA.DB367520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   Subject: Phoenix Digital organs From: "John & Fran Meyers" <jack-fran1@cox.net> Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 21:51:03 -0700   A church in the area has signed to buy a Phoenix digital organ and will integrate it with the existing Casavant pipe organ. The organist wants =3D to know of opinions regarding this British import. It seems I heard some =3D good things said on either this list or organchat just recently. Has anyone experience with this digital organ. thanks. Fran Meyers   ------------   Fran,   I'm not sure where your area is. To my knowledge, there are only two =3D Phoenix organs installed in the United States, both in the San Jose CA =3D area. Both are three manuals; the larger is in the delightfully named =3D "Joint Venture Churches" (a single facility shared by an Episcopal and a = =3D Methodist parish). The stoplist can be seen on the website:   http://www.mcguireclassic.com/McGuire_Classic_Organs_Install/Installation= =3D s_-_Almaden/installations_-_almaden.html   The church and organist (who selected Phoenix after a reportedly =3D exhaustive search) were most hospitable when I visited the area in =3D January of last year. Phoenix was reportedly created by a number of =3D people who left Makin, a British electronic organ builder acquired by =3D Johannus. The church is a rather small modern building in the =3D residential suburb of Almaden, CA. The sanctuary is a square with four = =3D additional squares on each side; these outer squares have ceilings =3D sloping away from the center. Acoustics are not spacious.   The sound and console appointments are quite British -- expect the sound = =3D of an English cathedral organ rather than an American Classic sound. =3D The Almaden organ has two sets of samples, which were being completed =3D when I played the organ. Switching from one bank to the other entails a = =3D gap of about seven seconds, and if keys are held down when the swap is =3D initiated, a cypher can occur when the second bank becomes active (the =3D cypher can be silenced by striking the key that was pressed). This =3D particular instrument was built in England and shipped over; Phoenix =3D then had plans to build consoles in the Toronto area for delivery to =3D NAFTA sites. The console was of the highest pipe organ quality in terms = =3D of fittings (I'd guess Kimber-Allen) and woodworking.   I would absolutely agree that ANY instrument using a synthesis system =3D (i.e. Musicom) have a different sound than ANY instrument using a =3D sample-playback system. Pervious postings by several Musicom users have = =3D described their system. I would absolutely NOT attempt to tell you =3D which is better, except to say I'd encourage anyone planning to purchase = =3D ANY instrument to listen to it carefully for quite some time to see if =3D it pleases YOU.   Hope this helps. I would be surprised if you were not quite happy with = =3D the results ASSUMING that a British sound is acceptable.   /s/Chester H Berry Salt Lake City, UTAH     ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C322DA.DB367520 Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type content=3D3D"text/html; =3D charset=3D3Dwindows-1252"> <META content=3D3D"MSHTML 5.50.4134.100" name=3D3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D3D#ffffff> <DIV>Subject: Phoenix Digital organs<BR>From: "John &amp; Fran Meyers" =3D &lt;<A=3D20 href=3D3D"mailto:jack-fran1@cox.net">jack-fran1@cox.net</A>&gt;<BR>Date: = =3D Thu, 15 May=3D20 2003 21:51:03 -0700<BR><BR>A church in the area has signed to buy a =3D Phoenix=3D20 digital organ and will<BR>integrate it with the existing Casavant pipe =3D organ.=3D20 The organist wants to<BR>know of opinions regarding this British import. = =3D It=3D20 seems I heard some good<BR>things said on either this list or organchat = =3D just=3D20 recently. Has anyone<BR>experience with this digital organ. thanks. Fran = =3D   Meyers<BR></DIV> <DIV>------------</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Fran,</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I'm not sure where your area is.&nbsp; To my knowledge, there are =3D only two=3D20 Phoenix organs installed in the United States, both in the San Jose = CA=3D20 area.&nbsp; Both are three manuals; the larger is in the delightfully =3D named=3D20 "Joint Venture Churches" (a single facility shared by an Episcopal and a = =3D   Methodist parish).&nbsp; The stoplist can be seen on =3D the&nbsp;website:</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV><A=3D20 href=3D3D"http://www.mcguireclassic.com/McGuire_Classic_Organs_Install/Inst= =3D allations_-_Almaden/installations_-_almaden.html">http://www.mcguireclass= =3D ic.com/McGuire_Classic_Organs_Install/Installations_-_Almaden/installatio= =3D ns_-_almaden.html</A></DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>The church and organist (who selected Phoenix after a reportedly =3D exhaustive=3D20 search) were most hospitable when I visited the area in January of = last=3D20 year.&nbsp; Phoenix was reportedly created by a number of people who =3D left Makin,=3D20 a British electronic organ builder acquired by Johannus.&nbsp; The =3D church is a=3D20 rather small modern building in the residential suburb of Almaden, =3D CA.&nbsp; The=3D20 sanctuary is a square with four additional squares on each side; these =3D outer=3D20 squares have ceilings sloping away from the center.&nbsp; Acoustics are = =3D not=3D20 spacious.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>The sound and console appointments are quite British -- expect the = =3D sound of=3D20 an English cathedral organ rather than an American Classic sound.&nbsp; = =3D The=3D20 Almaden organ has two sets of samples, which were being completed when I = =3D played=3D20 the organ.&nbsp; Switching from one bank to the other entails a gap of =3D about=3D20 seven seconds, and if keys are held down when the swap is initiated, a =3D cypher=3D20 can occur when the second bank becomes active (the cypher can be =3D silenced by=3D20 striking the key that was pressed).&nbsp; This particular instrument was = =3D built=3D20 in England and shipped over; Phoenix then had plans to build consoles in = =3D the=3D20 Toronto area for delivery to NAFTA sites.&nbsp; The console was of the =3D highest=3D20 pipe organ quality in terms of fittings (I'd guess Kimber-Allen) and=3D20 woodworking.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>I would absolutely agree that ANY instrument using a synthesis =3D system (i.e.=3D20 Musicom) have a different sound than ANY instrument using a =3D sample-playback=3D20 system.&nbsp; Pervious postings by several Musicom users have described = =3D their=3D20 system.&nbsp; I would absolutely NOT attempt to tell you which is =3D better, except=3D20 to say I'd encourage anyone planning to purchase ANY instrument to =3D listen to it=3D20 carefully for quite some time to see if it pleases YOU.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>Hope this helps.&nbsp; I would be surprised if you were not quite =3D happy=3D20 with the results ASSUMING that a British sound is acceptable.</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV> <DIV>/s/Chester H Berry</DIV> <DIV>Salt Lake City, UTAH</DIV> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></BODY></HTML>   ------=3D_NextPart_000_0027_01C322DA.DB367520--    
(back) Subject: Be my guest From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 23:57:44 +0100 (BST)     __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at = http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm  
(back) Subject: Be my guest From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 00:15:47 +0100 (BST)   Hello,   I heard a fine story about the late and very great Dr. George Guest during his tenure of St.John's College, Cambridge, here in the UK, where he had a superb choir.   Obviously, with "the other place" (Kings' College) just down the street, there was the inevitable rivalry between them.   With the new intake of students, and the usual rounds of student interviews, both college choirmasters were eager to secure the best voices available in the ranks of Choral Students (St,John's) and Choral Scholars (Kings' College).   One particular Cambridge applicant had all the qualities required...a good singing voice, fine musicianship, the right choral background and the right intellectual capabilities. Consequently, he was called for interview at St.John's College, and George Guest had arranged this for the morning.   During the interview, it transpired that the new recruit had also applied for King's College, and was to be interviewed that same afternoon.   Obviously deeply impressed by the choral abilities of this particular prospective student, George Guest excused himself from the interview and immediately contacted the Dean of the College.   The candidate was very surprised when George Guest invited him to discuss things over lunch, and they duly made their way to a local tavern, where good food and various excellent beverages were served. The Dean also roled up, and of course, immediately sat with George Guest and the student candidate.   Aware that the candidate was due for interview at King's College, George Guest bought numerous rounds of drinks whilst the Dean talked at great length and in fine detail about the college, college life, music, the church, the weather, the wildlife and anything else which took up time. Eventually, the student candidate could barely speak, and quite unable to get up on his own steam, the Dean offered to take him to the station so that he could catch his train home.   Thus, with some help from the Dean, George Guest got what he wanted and the student duly began his studies at St.John's College rather than at Kings' College, Cambridge!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK         __________________________________________________ It's Samaritans' Week. Help Samaritans help others. Call 08709 000032 to give or donate online now at = http://www.samaritans.org/support/donations.shtm  
(back) Subject: Re: Be my guest From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 19:22:20 EDT     --part1_d3.1d6e4e2d.2c02aa2c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   Colin:   We must be talking about thee and George Guest. What a cute story about being waylaid on the way to your next interview. St. John's checkmate. Kings had to wait.   Ron   --part1_d3.1d6e4e2d.2c02aa2c_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2 = FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" FACE=3D =3D3D"Arial" LANG=3D3D"0">Colin:<BR> <BR> We must be talking about thee and George Guest. What a<BR> cute story about being waylaid on the way to your next<BR> interview. St. John's checkmate. Kings had to wait.<BR> <BR> Ron</FONT></HTML>   --part1_d3.1d6e4e2d.2c02aa2c_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: 32 note pedal vs. 24 note pedal From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:08:36 EDT     --part1_1ed.999d3d5.2c02b504_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/24/03 10:55:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, = scapri@spro.net writes:     > Should I play my home organ as a 32 note pedal, > and assume that my brain will be able to switch to a 24 note pedal at > church? Or is that a really bad idea, and I should continue to play my > 32 note pedal as a 24 note pedal? >   Sandra, My experience has been that the more variation you have in the instruments =   you play, the less difficulty you have in moving among them. Getting = locked into one sound, one layout, one anything.... is counter-creative.   Use each instrument to the best of ITS ability and to its (and your) = maximum capacity. You'll grow faster and more evenly.   Good luck. You can learn alot from both instruments.   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyurl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll = only take a minute!)     --part1_1ed.999d3d5.2c02b504_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 5/24/0=3D 3 10:55:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, scapri@spro.net writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Should I play my home = organ=3D as a 32 note pedal, <BR>and assume that my brain will be able to switch to a 24 note pedal at <BR>church? &nbsp;Or is that a really bad idea, and I should continue to = pla=3D y my <BR>32 note pedal as a 24 note pedal? <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>Sandra,=3D20 <BR>My experience has been that the more variation you have in the = instrumen=3D ts you play, the less difficulty you have in moving among them. = &nbsp;&nbsp;=3D Getting locked into one sound, one layout, one anything.... is = counter-creat=3D ive. <BR> <BR>Use each instrument to the best of ITS ability and to its (and your) = max=3D imum capacity. &nbsp;&nbsp;You'll grow faster and more evenly. <BR> <BR>Good luck. &nbsp;&nbsp;You can learn alot from both instruments. <BR>=3D20 <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyu=3D rl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll only take a minute!) <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_1ed.999d3d5.2c02b504_boundary--  
(back) Subject: Re: pedal-boards From: <Cremona502@cs.com> Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 20:22:42 EDT     --part1_158.1fabe742.2c02b852_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   In a message dated 5/24/03 9:39:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes:     > Over the years I have observed something, but I've never figured out the =   > reason WHY: people who START on non - "standard" pedal-boards have no > trouble adapting to AGO or other boards; people who DON'T do. >   an interesting addition to the above.... I started on AGO pedalboards, = and after about twenty years experienced by first flat pedalboard (except for = the occasional Hammond). After playing the flat pedalboard for a while, I = found (and still do after ten years) the AGO pedalboard uncomfortable to return = to!   Even visually I've come to prefer the flat and straight pedalboards.   Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui in the Muttastery at Howling Acres http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502   FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyurl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll = only take a minute!)     --part1_158.1fabe742.2c02b852_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   <HTML><FONT FACE=3D3Darial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=3D3D2>In a message dated = 5/24/0=3D 3 9:39:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@socal.rr.com writes: <BR> <BR> <BR><BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=3D3DCITE style=3D3D"BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; = MARGIN-=3D LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Over the years I have = obser=3D ved something, but I've never figured out the=3D20 <BR>reason WHY: people who START on non - "standard" pedal-boards have = no=3D20 <BR>trouble adapting to AGO or other boards; people who DON'T do. <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D3 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"></BLOCKQUOTE> <BR></FONT><FONT COLOR=3D3D"#000000" SIZE=3D3D2 FAMILY=3D3D"SANSSERIF" = FACE=3D3D"Ar=3D ial" LANG=3D3D"0"> <BR>an interesting addition to the above.... &nbsp;&nbsp;I started on AGO = pe=3D dalboards, and after about twenty years experienced by first flat = pedalboard=3D (except for the occasional Hammond). &nbsp;&nbsp;After playing the flat = ped=3D alboard for a while, I found (and still do after ten years) the AGO = pedalboa=3D rd uncomfortable to return to! &nbsp; <BR> <BR>Even visually I've come to prefer the flat and straight pedalboards. <BR> <BR>Bruce, with Miles, Molly and Degui &nbsp;in the Muttastery at Howling = Ac=3D res http://members.tripod.com/Brucon502 = &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <BR> <BR>FEED AN ANIMAL FOR FREE <A = HREF=3D3D"http://tinyurl.com/2j5i">http://tinyu=3D rl.com/2j5i</A> (please it'll only take a minute!) <BR></FONT></HTML>   --part1_158.1fabe742.2c02b852_boundary--