PipeChat Digest #4112 - Saturday, November 15, 2003 Re: Alhborn Expander Modules (was Re: Allen MDS Expander II) by "Emily Adams" <firstname.lastname@example.org> 18th cty barrel organ 03 by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <email@example.com> Re: Ahlborn modules by "Russ Greene" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Organ contests & competitions for students (Xpost) by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <email@example.com> Re: Ahlborn modules by "John L. Speller" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Napoleon's CORRECTED adress by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <email@example.com> Re: PipeChat Digest #4108 - 11/11/03 by "Alicia Zeilenga" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Re: PipeChat Digest #4111 - 11/14/03 by "John Foss" <email@example.com> Re: Ahlborn modules by "Russ Greene" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Great concerts today! by <Devon3000@aol.com>
(back) Subject: Re: Alhborn Expander Modules (was Re: Allen MDS Expander II) From: "Emily Adams" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 06:42:12 -0500 >Subject: Re: Alhborn Expander Modules (was Re: Allen MDS Expander II) >From: "Joel Armengaud" <firstname.lastname@example.org> >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:55:59 +0100 >Thanks for the answer. >I am located in France, and to give you an idea: >the Alhborn Archive is about $1700. >the MDS Expander II is about $4000 I paid $2,500 US for my Ahlborn 201. I didn't attempt any price = negotiation, having already done what I thought was decent bargaining on the price of = the organ itself. To me it's been well worth what I paid.
(back) Subject: 18th cty barrel organ 03 From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:53:02 -0400 Andres Gunther firstname.lastname@example.org 18th cty barrel organ part 03 (History, second part: the confirmed histor= y) Let us recall from the history records: "Later it was purchased in Holland by a member of the Siegert family [...= ] Te=F3filo Benjam=EDn Siegert, Field Surgeon of the Liberation Army in Ang= ostura, today Ciudad Bolivar". This part of the history and all what follows was confirmed by Dr. Sieger= t's descendants who right now live in Cura=E7ao. [A background for people who didn't get my series about organ history in Venezuela: The independence war of Venezuela started in 1812 and lasted until 1821. = In fact it was a civil war between "Patriots" (citizens who wanted an independent country) and "Royalists" (citizens who wanted to conserve the status quo as spanish colony). The "Patriots", leadered by Sim=F3n Bol=ED= var, etablished in Angostura City (an important river port of the Orinoco) meanwhile the Royalists had Caracas under control. Soon enough Bol=EDvar = and his staff realized that they would need foreign help, and the agent Luis L=F3pez M=E9ndez was sent to Europe as commissioner to hire specialists]. Dr. Johann Gottlieb Benjamin Siegert (so was his original german name) wa= s born in Grosswalditz, Germany, Nov 22 1796. He degreed as Physician at th= e Berlin University and was appointed surgeon of the Royal Hospital of Prus= sia in Magdeburg in 1815 and was field surgeon at the Waterloo Battle against Napoleon. When he was demobilised he remained in the Netherlands where he etablished as a physician (and purchased the "Napoleon Clock"). He was hired as field surgeon by Luis L=F3pez M=E9ndez in London and came= to Venezuela august 01 1819- and the "Napoleon clock" with him. He was appointed Chief Surgeon and Traumatologuist of the Military Hospital in Angostura. His researches about tropical aromatic and medicine plants led him to develope the "Angostura Bitter" in 1824 (alike "Coca-Cola", the "Angostura Bitter" initially was a potion). After the Independence War he remained in Angostura City (now Ciudad Bol=EDvar), where he founded the Municipal Pharmacy and the Central Civic Hospital. On May 03 1838 he made his Re-validation Exam in Caracas [in Venezuela all foreign Diplomas and degrees must be subject to a re-examination by the State]. In 1848 he was ascended to Colonel and appointed as Chief Surgeon of the Venezuelan Army by Pres. Gral. Jos=E9 T= adeo Monagas. He retired in 1858 and devoted with his relatives to the commerc= ial production of his now worldwide famous "Angostura Bitter". For this he founded the firm "J.G.B. Siegert & Sons". Te=F3filo Benjam=EDn Siegert (as is his 'hispanized' name) died Sept. 13 = 1870 in Ciudad Bol=EDvar. The Siegert family owned the clock until it became part= of the Eduardo P=E1ez Pumar Collection in Caracas as stated. The family move= d to Cura=E7ao soon after. In 1967 the Venezuelan Government acquired the clock in view of its historical value, and it was transferred to the presidential residence "L= a Casona". Its record has a reference of a repair: "The clock mechanism and bells were damaged by a bullet impact which stil= l can be noticed in the dial enamel. The mechanism was repaired by Adolfo Petithan, an antique dealer, and is = in perfect working condition, what cannot be said about the organ mechanism which could not be restored in all these years." Enrique Cupello however expressed doubts in his report that the damage wa= s due to a bullet: "At last, I put on doubt the legend of the inventory record which says th= at the dial received a bullet impact, since the damage on the enamel is gene= ral and not spot-located." Anyway dial, cabinet and clock movement were restored meanwhile the barre= l organ remained as a closed mystery... nobody was able to repair it. In fa= ct it was damaged since so long that people couldn't even remember the tune = or tunes it played. This, of course, led to set free the imagination and expectancies about what was recorded on the ancient barrel: a 18th cty courtesan dance; a love song for Marie Antoniette; a revolutionary tune f= rom Robespierre's time; a love song for Josephine; a venezuelan Patriotic Tun= e (very difficult; manufacturing and "pinning" a roller demands a specialis= t and the "Patriots" had other problems to face at the time when the clock arrived in Venezuela!)... last but not least there was an exciting possiblity: *an unedited Opus from Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart perhaps?!* (will be ctd.)
(back) Subject: Re: Ahlborn modules From: "Russ Greene" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:43:10 -0600 Does anyone know what "note-dropping" algorithm is used in Ahlborn=20 modules? i.e., as you add simultaneous notes beyond 8, is the first note played=20= the one that stops playing? Or the top note? Or the bottom note? Or=20 some note NOT the bottom or top note? All of these algorithms exist in=20= the synthesizer world and some are better than others at hiding the=20 disappearing note(s). Surely loss of notes is a small problem however. We just don't play a=20 lot of "more than 8 note" chords in the normal course of events. Where=20= synthesizers need large polyphony is when imitating instruments such as=20= piano with a sustain function which can very quickly multiply the=20 number of notes required. Russ On Thursday, November 13, 2003, at 09:00 AM, RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > Dear Terry: > =A0 > The way these are configured as I understand it is eight on the > manuals and four for the pedals. Perhaps there is some overlap > at the bass end of the manuals from the pedal. I have never > experienced any loss of notes either. I use the 201 and the classic. > =A0 > Ron
(back) Subject: Organ contests & competitions for students (Xpost) From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:06:18 -0400 Andres Gunther email@example.com Dear friends, My Junior Colleague Napoleon Savelli (who played the organ in "Suor Angelica") is interested in information about *organ competitions at = student level* in both Europe and USA, as well as summer courses, festivals, and = the ilk. Please send reply (URL's preferred) to me privatedly or directly to firstname.lastname@example.org Thanks in advance. Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.
(back) Subject: Re: Ahlborn modules From: "John L. Speller" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 12:33:36 -0600 Russ Greene wrote: > Does anyone know what "note-dropping" algorithm is used in Ahlborn > modules? > > i.e., as you add simultaneous notes beyond 8, is the first note played > the one that stops playing? Or the top note? Or the bottom note? Or > some note NOT the bottom or top note? All of these algorithms exist in > the synthesizer world and some are better than others at hiding the > disappearing note(s). > > Surely loss of notes is a small problem however. We just don't play a > lot of "more than 8 note" chords in the normal course of events. You obviously haven't played a lot of Max Reger <g> John Speller
(back) Subject: Napoleon's CORRECTED adress From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 15:17:59 -0400 Sorry, folks! Napoleon Savelli's right adress is: email@example.com A.G.
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4108 - 11/11/03 From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 13:49:09 -0600 Hello, Last Sunday I attended an organ recital at St. Martin de Porres church in Peoria, Illinois, most of which was performed by Jonathan Kroepel a graduate student from the University of Illinois. The German Romantic music was beautiful, but it seemed that their were about 5 people under 50, even though the church was almost full! Perhaps Felix (and other talanted, young organists) will be able to help reverse this trend. At least we can hope! > The excitement his performance generated on the part of the > listeners--mostly the same 50 and 60-something crowd usually seen at > local > organ recitals plus members of the aging, conservative midwestern > Catholic > parish whose church he performed in--was palpable. If our profession > had a > few more like him perhaps audiences would gradually stop avoiding our > preformances in droves, and some appreciation might eventually be > generated > for the rather more staid, understated type of things that are more to > my > taste. Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4111 - 11/14/03 From: "John Foss" <email@example.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 20:46:04 +0000 (GMT) Dear List, No one revealed the price of an Ahlborn Archive in America, but my guess is that you could have a very good holiday in Greece - come over for the Olympics, perhaps, buy a small island, and go back home to the US and still be in pocket having bought one here. The same is true of dental treatment, which is first rate and prices, though rising, still highly competitive. My dentist, one of the best in town, and regarded as "expensive" by the locals, charged me 20 euros a couple of weeks ago for replacing a filling and rebuilding the wall of a tooth. Most of my dental treatment in the UK was in Harley Street - very rarely did the quality of treatment approach that which I get here. And the price was around $300 dollars for roughly the same problem. Arie, are you suggesting that US or European quality might be better? An Ahlborn is an Ahlborn! I have had excellent support direct from the factory - as well as EORG - including you, though you probably remember! John Foss =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topics of the week : Line from Plati Gene Robinson's appointment ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk
(back) Subject: Re: Ahlborn modules From: "Russ Greene" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 18:17:51 -0600 No, I'm a working organist so as a percentage of my playing, I spend a very small proportion of my time playing Reger. I would be surprised if 10 note chords were as frequent as one hundredth of one percent of the total chords I play in a given year. And I would be surprised if anyone that played professionally, i.e. a lot, had any greater requirement for 10 note chords. Good to be able to do 10 note chords when the music calls for them (rarely). The modules would be better if they could. But it's hardly the end of the world. And those who have Ahlborn modules seem to be saying that they've never even noticed the limitation. Russ On Friday, November 14, 2003, at 12:33 PM, John L. Speller wrote: > You obviously haven't played a lot of Max Reger <g>
(back) Subject: Great concerts today! From: <Devon3000@aol.com> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:00:21 EST Hi all, The West Suburban Symphony gives a concert for youth for area grade = schools every year at Christ Church of Oak Brook for several years now (they rent = the church because we can seat 2000 children at a time). I was asked to play = the organ parts for Holst's "The Planets". Their director hasn't been with = them long, but I was excited to see that without one harsh word, he inspired = these players of all ages (one has been playing for over 40 years!) to make some = incredibly great music. They normally get about 1500 students in two programs. This year, the Chicago Symphony cut their youth concerts from three to one, and most = schools got their rejection notices a day or two before the West Suburban notices = arrived. We played today for over 4,000 students in two back to back concerts!! = And when it came time to demonstrate all the instruments, but conductor = introduced the organ and had me play the opening bars to "you-know-what". You should = have heard them react! They clapped and screamed. They were polite and = quietly spell-bound throughout the program, and their chaperones effeciently got = 2,000 out and 2,000 more in within 45 minutes!! Each program was about 45 = minutes, ending with a Star Wars piece. This conductor likes organ, and I = suggested Saint Saens or Rheinberger for next year. Oh, I almost forgot, they had to turn down an additional 2,000 students = this year because they hadn't planned for that many, but are planning = additional concerts over two days instead of one next year. It was a great chance to introduce a great pipe/digital organ = (Austin/Allen 4/120) to a lot of ears that hadn't heard one before. I'll bet the organ = gets mentioned in a few post-concert class reports. If you have area = symphonies giving these youth concerts, see if you can encourage the use of the = organ. Our chicago Allen dealer will supply a suitable instrument for only the cost = of cartage for concerts where there is no organ. I'm sure a lot of other = places do or would be willing to do the same if asked. Devon Hollingsworth DeKalb, Illinois (Christ Church is in Oak Brook)