PipeChat Digest #4113 - Saturday, November 15, 2003
 
Re: looking for music
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: looking for music
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Ahlborn Module note-dropping algorithm
  by "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org>
Round Lake - Fabulous News!!
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Alhborn Expander Modules
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Keyboard for Handbells
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
Re: Keyboard for Handbells
  by "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
Re: Keyboard for Handbells
  by "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Keyboard for Handbells
  by "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: looking for music From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 07:24:03 -0600   Hello, PipeChatters: While we are looking for music by Richard Purvis, I would like to get a piece (two-section piece) called "Prayer and Petition." AND, ...if anyone has a recording of it, I would love to get it. My LP recording was loaned, ...and you know the rest. <grins> Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs .. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Carl Patterson" <rcpatt@socal.rr.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 14:35 Subject: looking for music     Does anyone have a copy of Richard Purvis' "What strangers are these" for organ and choir? Its long out of print.   Sincerely, Bob Patterson  
(back) Subject: Re: looking for music From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 09:11:47 -0800     ----- Original Message ----- From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > While we are looking for music by Richard Purvis, > I would like to get a piece (two-section piece) > called "Prayer and Petition." AND, ...if anyone > has a recording of it, I would love to get it. > My LP recording was loaned   Dear All,   I've been a Purvis enthusiast for almost 50 years as well as a world-class compulsive collector of organ music, but I sure don't know what this piece could be. Closest thing that comes to mind is perhaps "Supplication" from Four Prayers in Tone?   Michael Fox    
(back) Subject: Ahlborn Module note-dropping algorithm From: "Bob Richardson" <bob@peak.org> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:34:19 -0800   Recently, Russ Greene <rggreene2@shaw.ca>, asked about how the Ahlborn Archive modules drop notes when a person plays more than the 8-note limit on the manuals.   My setup involves an Ahlborn 201 and an Ahlborn Romantic module played via =   a MIDI-adapted organ console.   It appears, in general, when you play more than 8 notes, the unit keeps = the lowest one note and the highest seven notes. The algorithm does not care which notes were pressed first, the point is that by playing the lowest note you get a foundation and the highest notes give the meat of the = chord.   As you release notes, the dropped notes return. This can sometimes lead = to the illusion of an unreliable key contact where a note you are holding comes an goes with other activity.   Some may ask how much activity can be going on with 8 notes down, but remember that on an Ahlborn module, pedal and intra-manual couplers work just like on a pipe organ - coupled pedal notes speak borrowing from the keyboard's capacity.   In the Virgil Fox embellished version of the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, =   the opening progressive chords use more than 8 notes, and if you've = coupled the pedal, you only get 7 notes left for the fingers.   In the big finale of Boellmann Suite Gothique, both feet are playing octaves in the pedal while the fingers arpeggiate through chords, settling =   in to a big final chord progression, in which several notes drop out due = to pedal coupling stealing from the fingers.   The pedal, by itself, gets four notes allocated. I am making a guess that =   the architecture of this generation of Ahlborn products can add polyphony in multiples of 4, given the number of chips dedicated to each division. It should be noted that Ahlborn's full-size instruments do NOT have the 8-note limitation. (It's either 12 or 16, I forget which.) Ahlborn may have viewed these purely as expanders meant to be = used with other stops drawn on a main instrument, and therefore viewed the 8-note limitation as a reasonable cost-cutting move, given that other = stops would be covering over for the missing notes.   One other point about the note-dropping algorithm: It appears that on = some stops, the "wind" noise sound is in fact using a 2nd "note" oscillator. = As you add more than 4 notes, the wind is dropped off to make room, to the point where if you hold 8 notes, there is no wind sound at all - opposite of what you'd expect in the "real thing". I have not fully explored this exception, so can't say for sure what is going on.   I know at least one Ahlborn dealer reads this list. I've been thinking about a work-around for this 8-note limitation and was wondering if it would be worth lobbying Ahlborn for an upgrade to their line...   My idea is this: Change the software in the modules to allow for a setting =   where a module only responds to half of the notes of the MIDI spectrum. What would this do? It would mean that if you bought TWO modules, you could use them in tandem for near-16 note polyphony. (It would fall somewhere between 8 and 16 depending on which MIDI notes you were playing).   This would add ZERO hardware cost to the current units, but would allow them to sell TWO to every module owner who wanted to work around the = 8-note limit. It would also double the number of independent sound channel = outputs.   What do you folks think?   Best wishes, Bob Richardson bob@peak.org      
(back) Subject: Round Lake - Fabulous News!! From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 18:52:51 -0500   Dear Friends,   I learned yesterday in a phone call from Edna Van Duzee, who is Artistic Director of the Round Lake Auditorium, in Round Lake, NY, and her husband, Norman Walter, that they have just been notified of an award in the = Federal program, "Save America's Treasures." The amount - are you sitting down - = is $225,000. Some of you might not be aware that this is the home of this country's Oldest, Largest, Three-Manual Tracker Pipe Organ surviving. Both the Organ and the Auditorium are already on the National Historic = Registry. This "Treasures" program is administered by the National Park Service, = with the cooperation of a number of other agencies.   The auditorium (check it all out at http://www.roundlakevillage.org/auditorium/2001.htm ) was built in 1885, = and following a gift of the Richard M. Ferris Organ built originally for = Calvary Church on Manhattan in 1847, an addition was, in 1888, bullt to = accommodate it. At Calvary, the Organ was in the west gallery, where the choir sang at that time. Possibly in response to Oxford Movement ideas, choir and Organ were both wanted in the chancel. The choir made the trip successfully, but problems with fitting the Organ in brought about a decision to have an entirely new instrument, and the Methodist Camp Meeting Association at = Round Lake was given the Organ we know today. (Ocean Grove is another Camp = Meeting Association site, also noted for its Organ and for a summer recital = series.)   The building needs work, and then the Organ needs some sensitive continued restoration work. It has been carefully tended for many years by Bob = Newton and a crew from Andover Organ Company. This wonderful gift will make possible what is needed.   When we get closer to the summer (quickly, please), I will try to get information to you about the recitals and concerts of the season. You will also be able to find these on the Website, at the URL given above.   Congratulations to Edna Van Duzee and Norman Walter for the years of hard work that has made the Park Service and other agencies look favorably upon this magical place as worthy of this gift.   Cheers (really!),   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com        
(back) Subject: Re: Alhborn Expander Modules From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:55:07 -0500   I was recently quoted $2500 for the Alhborn module in the USA. I passed. And I don't understand the rave reviews - they don't sound very good to = me.   > "Joel Armengaud" <jarmengaud@apsydev.com> wrote: > > Thanks for the answer. > I am located in France, and to give you an idea: > > the Alhborn Archive is about $1700. > the MDS Expander II is about $4000 > > -Joel    
(back) Subject: Keyboard for Handbells From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 21:39:17 -0500   List,   I don't know why I'm looking for this. Some years ago I was looking thru = a church supply catalog and saw a storage system for handbells. It looked like a tall upright piano with a glass front. The handbells were stored = on some type of labelled hanger. The instrument had a keyboard which allowed the handbells to played from the keyboard. The ad stated that the bells could be enjoyed even without a handbell choir. Has anyone seen this = device or had any experience with it?   Thanks, Keith Zimmerman      
(back) Subject: Re: Keyboard for Handbells From: "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:36:54 -0800 (PST)   Keith, Somewhere in my files I have a demo video produced by that company I played for customers when I managed a music store years ago (don't remember their name, and didn't sell any of them), .   I'll look for it, and make a copy if you're interested.   It is a rather nice unit, with a keyboard hooked up to a glass-enclosed cabinet, sort of looking like a reed pump organ with bells hanging inside.   The set of handbells are suspended in the cabinet for storage and display, but also can be played from the keyboard by a single musician like a mini carillion.   At the time I tried to get my church to spring for one; it would have saved setup time for the handbell choir I conducted, as the bells are easily detached. At present I'm having fun putting together a tubular chime unit.   I'll look for the video. Let me know if you're interested.   Paul       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree  
(back) Subject: Re: Keyboard for Handbells From: "Karl Moyer" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:37:59 -0500   The big M=F6ller at National City Christian Chruch, Washington, D.C., has a set of handbells in the rear-gallery organ played from the organ console.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   > I don't know why I'm looking for this. Some years ago I was looking thru= a > church supply catalog and saw a storage system for handbells. It looked > like a tall upright piano with a glass front. The handbells were stored = on > some type of labelled hanger. The instrument had a keyboard which allowe= d > the handbells to played from the keyboard. The ad stated that the bells > could be enjoyed even without a handbell choir. Has anyone seen this dev= ice > or had any experience with it?    
(back) Subject: Re: Keyboard for Handbells From: "noel jones" <gedeckt@usit.net> Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:56:21 -0500   The gentleman that invented it never actually had a production model and went under. Nice guy. Felt bad for him.   Kealypaul wrote:   >Keith, >Somewhere in my files I have a demo video produced by >that company I played for customers when I managed a >music store years ago (don't remember their name, and >didn't sell any of them), . > >I'll look for it, and make a copy if you're >interested. > >It is a rather nice unit, with a keyboard hooked up to >a glass-enclosed cabinet, sort of looking like a reed >pump organ with bells hanging inside. > >The set of handbells are suspended in the cabinet for >storage and display, but also can be played from the >keyboard by a single musician like a mini carillion. > >At the time I tried to get my church to spring for >one; it would have saved setup time for the handbell >choir I conducted, as the bells are easily detached. >At present I'm having fun putting together a tubular >chime unit. > >I'll look for the video. Let me know if you're >interested. > >Paul > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard >http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > >