PipeChat Digest #4117 - Tuesday, November 18, 2003
 
Re: Ornamentation in Couperin
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: Skills of a church musician. (was: Carpenter and Hell?)
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Handbell Keyboard
  by "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net>
New York City area concert
  by "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net>
Re: Handbell Keyboard
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Ornamentation in Couperin From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:21:09 EST   In a message dated 11/17/2003 9:11:16 PM Central Standard Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes: Dear Greg.   I can see going to the trouble of learning all the right ornaments if I was going to make a definitive recording, or play them for peers in recital. For the average Joe six pack, he doesn't care. He doesn't even know most of the hymns I try to introduce, and I'm talking about old traditional hymns everybody "SHOULD" know, but don't. They're just happy because I play all the right notes and don't get too loud. <Smile>   Ron I guess my point was that the ornaments make the music special. Playing French baroque music with out ornaments, is like eating a peanut butter = and jelly sandwich with out the peanut butter. Why blow them off? An extra 15 = minutes of practice could make the music outstanding! What if a Couperin scholar = was sitting in the back pew on a Sunday morning? I bet your congregations = ears would be tickled after hearing such graceful ornamentation. Just my 2 cents. Cheerfully gfc   Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Skills of a church musician. (was: Carpenter and Hell?) From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:45:35 -0500   And everyone knows that if you can pack-em in at the concert hall for cash money, you must be way too exciting for church!   ducking very low indeed, WG     > "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> > > Felix, > > You should understand that you are merely an organist! > > It is the absolute right of every pipechatter to > listen, judge, criticise, offer advice and perhaps try > to shape your entire destiny. ...    
(back) Subject: Handbell Keyboard From: "Keith Zimmerman" <kwzimmerman@alltel.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:47:34 -0500   List,   In responding to Ron's post on this topic that I had introduced, I'd = really like to pursue this further. I like the sound of bells - even moreso than chimes. Over the years, my mind has drifted off when the sermon got = boring. I've often thought about how to interface a set of handbells to an organ.   I would think that the technology has been available for a long time. = Even in the pre-MIDI days, handbells could have been played by having their dingers activated pneumatically much like a harp or xylophone stop. I happened upon the following website in which a Robert Lang has developed a MIDI operated xylophone (using one of the old school room xylophones): http://www2.netdoor.com/%7Erlang/xylotron/xylotron.htm. The bars are = struck by solenoids.   If one could get the unmounted bell part of the handbells, suspend them appropriately, and design a striking mechanism using solenoids, one could simply interface them into any organ that uses solid state switching = (using the magnet driver cards). Some kind of dampening might be needed to just = as the usual handbell player brings the bell to the chest to stop the sound.   Keith Zimmerman      
(back) Subject: New York City area concert From: "Jan S. Van Der Stad" <dorian@nac.net> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 00:08:07 -0500   Greetings--   Good Shepherd Lutheran Church in Weehawken NJ (just a stone's throw across the Hudson River from New York City) will present an organ concert, with assistance from choir, instrumentalists, and congregation on Sunday, November 23, at 4 PM. The program will include works by Bach and Boellman.   The organ is a 10 rank Wicks built in 1916 that sustained damage from Hurricaine Floyd in 2000. We were comissioned to thoroughly clean and refurbish the pipework, refurbish existing chests, provide new chests, revoicing, regulation, and tuning.   Admission is free; donations will be accepted. Reception to follow.   Good Shepherd Lutheran Church is located at the corner of Park Ave. and Columbia Terrace (a.k.a. 44th Street) in Weehawken, 13 blocks north of the 495 viaduct into the Lincoln Tunnel. Feel free to contact the church at (201) 863-2029 for further information.   Cordially   Jan S. Van Der Stad      
(back) Subject: Re: Handbell Keyboard From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:59:07 -0800   Hello Kieth and list,   It is possible to add clapper activators to the hand bells. I also build MIDI Xylophones and Orchestra bells with MIDI control. I also have a solid state coupler switch to attach to pipe chests with drivers for solenoids or strikers which may be equipped for High side or Low side drive.   My MIDI decoders can also be equipped with High current FET DC drivers, or AC Drivers for AC Chimes (18 VAC to 36 VAC @ 6 Amps. AC). Triac (Triacs rated at 12 Amps AC at 120 VAC) output circuits are available for 110 Volt AC Loads. The relay output circuits are for applications where only a relay will do (Contacts rated for 12 Amps @ 120 VAC or DC).   So it is possible to drive almost any kind of load with MIDI in full Polyphony.   Decoder Drivers are Available for ranges of 25 to 128 Notes, or dual sets of 25 to 64 notes and combinations in between.   Try some AC Lighting arrangements with MIDI....Pipes and Lights...   See http://www.Sound-Research.net   Vern Jones, Sound Research       Keith Zimmerman wrote: > > List, > > In responding to Ron's post on this topic that I had introduced, I'd = really > like to pursue this further. I like the sound of bells - even moreso = than > chimes. Over the years, my mind has drifted off when the sermon got = boring. > I've often thought about how to interface a set of handbells to an = organ. > > I would think that the technology has been available for a long time. = Even > in the pre-MIDI days, handbells could have been played by having their > dingers activated pneumatically much like a harp or xylophone stop. I > happened upon the following website in which a Robert Lang has developed = a > MIDI operated xylophone (using one of the old school room xylophones): > http://www2.netdoor.com/%7Erlang/xylotron/xylotron.htm. The bars are = struck > by solenoids. > > If one could get the unmounted bell part of the handbells, suspend them > appropriately, and design a striking mechanism using solenoids, one = could > simply interface them into any organ that uses solid state switching = (using > the magnet driver cards). Some kind of dampening might be needed to = just as > the usual handbell player brings the bell to the chest to stop the = sound. > > Keith Zimmerman > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org