PipeChat Digest #4130 - Friday, November 28, 2003
 
Re: wedding rehearsals
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Short personal tought, was TAO ad
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
RE: Dedications of Franck's works
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve>
Re: Book of fiction about organist
  by "June Edison" <junemax@insightbb.com>
Re: Book of fiction about organist
  by "June Edison" <junemax@insightbb.com>
Re: Book of fiction about organist
  by "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com>
Organs in movies (was something else)
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Organs in movies (was something else)
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Book of fiction about organist
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
RE: Book of fiction about organist
  by "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com>
Economy of motion (was Re: Book of fiction about organist)
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
Re: Economy of motion LONG
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
OT: Mac MIDI Interface for OS9 and OSX
  by "Thurletta Brown-Gavins" <TMBROWN@vance.net>
Re: Economy of motion (was Re: Book of fiction about organist)
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
Re: OT: Mac MIDI Interface for OS9 and OSX
  by "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net>
Re: OT: Mac MIDI Interface for OS9 and OSX
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
Re: Book of fiction about organist
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Body movement or gyrations?
  by "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net>
Re: Body movement or gyrations?
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
 

(back) Subject: Re: wedding rehearsals From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 20:10:16 +0800   In my church there is no charge for members of the congregation. They help pay the wages as it is. Bob Elms.   ---- Original Message ---- From: acfreed0904@earthlink.net To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: wedding rehearsals Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:55:19 -0500   >On 11/26/03 12:35 AM, "FastToccata@aol.com" <FastToccata@aol.com> >wrote: >> I have them sign a contract and send me a retainer amount. > >If you do weddings for non-members as well as members, does your fee >structure apply to both? In the case of a wedding for members, how >would you feel about the idea that members, who (presumably) have been supporting the ministries of this congregation (possibly for many years), really ought to benefit from those ministries without being charged for them?   >Alan > >    
(back) Subject: Short personal tought, was TAO ad From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:39:16 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Monty Bennett wrote:   > (SNIP) The days of the thin principals, very firey reed and extremely bright mixtures are gone (SNIP) the new sound is rich and full and = silvery, unforced but powerful. It's an amazing transformation. Francesco and Piero Ruffatti have done some wonderful things!!!   **THANKS HEAVEN.**   Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.    
(back) Subject: RE: Dedications of Franck's works From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agun@telcel.net.ve> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:40:15 -0400   Andres Gunther agun@telcel.net.ve   Now serious on this thread:   Bud told some things which I really didn't know. I have the "landscape" Durand- my instructor told me "Franck in Durand only, please- it's the *original* edition!" As for the dedications, they are a "who is who" of Franck's most = influential contemporaries in the french organ world...   I always considered an irony the fact that I specialized on Franck in my organ performer days- and *never* got a reliable Franck biography!- only "novelesque" or dry, "music encyclopedia-like" stuff.   Yours Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.      
(back) Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist From: "June Edison" <junemax@insightbb.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:16:19 -0500   Thanks for the information; that's the book. I ordered it last night. June   ---------- >From: DudelK@aol.com >To: pipechat@pipechat.org ("PipeChat") >Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist >Date: Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 2:49 PM >   >Possibly "Divine Inspiration" by Jane Langton. It's set in Back Bay = Boston >and the organ looks like a Fisk, possibly. Amazon says its OOP but they >have used copies available. >David Krohne >Washington DC >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist From: "June Edison" <junemax@insightbb.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:16:55 -0500   Thanks for the help. That's the book; I ordered it last night. June ---------- >From: M Fox <ophicleide16@direcway.com> >To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist >Date: Wed, Nov 26, 2003, 1:46 PM >   >My guess is that it is "Divine Inspiration," a Home Kelly mystery by Jane >Langton, published in 1993 by Viking Penguin and subsequently available as= a >Penguin paperback. > >MAF > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "June Edison" <junemax@insightbb.com> >To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> >Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2003 10:33 AM >Subject: Book of fiction about organist > > >Dear friends. >I=B9m trying to remember the name of a book I became acquainted with 8 to 10= y >ears ago. I can=B9t remember the title; I can=B9t remember the author. But if >anything in the following description rings a bell for you, I would love t= o >track down this book. > It was a book of fiction about an organist who played a tracker organ >in a church. > I think there was an element of mystery about the story. > I heard it on audio-cassette tape which I picked up at the library. > The cassettes even had musical examples of the pieces. > I purchased a paper-back copy of the book as a gift around the same >time. > The recipient can=B9t remember getting the gift, nor does it lurk in= a >dark corner of her library. > I know that it was published before 1997. >Any readers out there with a better memory than mine? >I have looked at library and book store catalogues until my eyes pop out, >and still I haven=B9t found anything promising. >Help! >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics >HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org >List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org >Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist From: "Stephen Best" <sbest@borg.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:19:29 -0500   "All of know that good players sit almost perfectly still....?" Where did THAT come from? Count me as one of those who doesn't know that at all. Best case to destroy that myth? The incomparable Felix Hell.   Steve Best in Utica, nY   Gfc234@aol.com wrote:   > > Dearest Malcolm and Ron, > > All of us know that good players sit almost perfectly still, and are > very controlled while playing etc....I don't think I need to go into > this any further. > > Happy Thanksgiving- > gfc > > > Gregory Ceurvorst > M.M. Organ Performance Student > Northwestern University > Director of Music and Organist > St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL > 847.332.2788 home > 708.243.2549 mobile > gfc234@aol.com <http://gfc234@aol.com/>        
(back) Subject: Organs in movies (was something else) From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 10:32:09 -0500   I had the pleasure of having dinner with Stephen Tharp this past week, and = he mentioned the Hitchcock film "The Man Who Knew Too Much", which features an assasination attempt inside Royal Albert Hall, AND the actual sounds of the RAH organ in the soundtrack. I believe there are actually = two films by that name, both by Hitchcock, and both featuring assasination attempts inside Royal Albert Hall. Anyone here know which one includes the music of the actual RAH organ? Or both maybe? Or am I wrong in thinking there are two films?   -WG   > manderusa@earthlink.net writes: > Gregory, Sir, > > As a penance for those remarks, I hereby sentence you to learn and play = in > public the Toccata, Schlafes Bruder. It's published by Schott.    
(back) Subject: Re: Organs in movies (was something else) From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 08:16:42 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   The RAH organ is featured in the film "The man who knew too much" - Hitchcock 1956.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       --- Walter Greenwood <walterg@nauticom.net> wrote: > I had the pleasure of having dinner with Stephen > Tharp this past week, and he > mentioned the Hitchcock film "The Man Who Knew Too > Much", > > Anyone here know > which one includes > the music of the actual RAH organ? > -WG     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/  
(back) Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:03:35 EST   In a message dated 11/27/2003 9:18:25 AM Central Standard Time, sbest@borg.com writes: "All of know that good players sit almost perfectly still....?" Where did =   THAT come from? Count me as one of those who doesn't know that at all. = Best case to destroy that myth? The incomparable Felix Hell.   Steve Best in Utica, nY Economy of motion-I think Lemmens was WAY into that. Follow the lineage. = It is a concept that is applied by the best musicians on all instruments = (except for piano anyway :). Why make extra motions and gestures, especially contrived ones? To put on a show? To make look like your really doing = something hard? It's a waste of time, and gets in the way of the music, and can = even prevent someome from playing right notes.   Just my opinion- Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone! gfc     Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: RE: Book of fiction about organist From: "Mari" <mreive@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:07:44 -0500   Economy of motion......Catherine Crozier believed in that too. Her theory was that too much movement interfered with good rhythm. Mari -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Gfc234@aol.com Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 12:04 PM To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist     In a message dated 11/27/2003 9:18:25 AM Central Standard Time, sbest@borg.com writes: "All of know that good players sit almost perfectly still....?" Where did THAT come from? Count me as one of those who doesn't know that at = all. Best case to destroy that myth? The incomparable Felix Hell.   Steve Best in Utica, nY Economy of motion-I think Lemmens was WAY into that. Follow the = lineage. It is a concept that is applied by the best musicians on all instruments (except for piano anyway :). Why make extra motions and gestures, especially contrived ones? To put on a show? To make look like your = really doing something hard? It's a waste of time, and gets in the way of the music, and can even prevent someome from playing right notes.   Just my opinion- Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone! gfc     Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Economy of motion (was Re: Book of fiction about organist) From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 09:35:20 -0800     ----- Original Message ----- From: Gfc234@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist     >In a message dated 11/27/2003 9:18:25 AM Central Standard Time, = sbest@borg.com writes: "All of know that good players sit almost perfectly still....?" Where = did THAT come from? Count me as one of those who doesn't know that at = all. Best case to destroy that myth? The incomparable Felix Hell.   Steve Best in Utica, nY >Economy of motion-I think Lemmens was WAY into that. Follow the = lineage. It is a concept that is applied by the best >musicians on all = instruments (except for piano anyway :). Why make extra motions and = gestures, especially contrived >ones? To put on a show? To make look = like your really doing something hard? It's a waste of time, and gets in = the way of >the music, and can even prevent someome from playing right = notes.   >Just my opinion-   >Gregory Ceurvorst   And outside the organ world, has anyone ever seen Eric Clapton play = guitar? One of the most interesting aspects of a Cream or Blind Faith = concert was that those thousands of wailing, shrieking, thundering guitar = notes were coming from this guy standing stock-still on stage moving just = about nothing except his fingers.   MAF    
(back) Subject: Re: Economy of motion LONG From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 13:35:33 EST   In a message dated 11/27/2003 11:38:32 AM Central Standard Time, ophicleide16@direcway.com writes: And outside the organ world, has anyone ever seen Eric Clapton play = guitar? One of the most interesting aspects of a Cream or Blind Faith concert was = that those thousands of wailing, shrieking, thundering guitar notes were coming =   from this guy standing stock-still on stage moving just about nothing = except his fingers.   MAF You read my mind-sort of. If you really want to take it further-look at = all those idiotic pop guitar players who play the guitar (and other = instruments) really hard, arms flying around to pluck the strings, jumping etc...to = make people think its really something, when it reality, they are playing 3 = chords over and over, and a pentatonic scale (they only know one or two of these = at most), and have NO command over the guitar at all. Then take a look at = Wes Montgomery, Grant Green, John Coltrane, Elvin Jones (drummer), all the = great classical guitarists too....these people are playing mind blowing = music-and are just sitting there, sqare and calm-cool as a cucumber, almost as if they are meditating. They make it look easy. There need not be anything = theatrical about it-its music, not acting class.   To take it further, here are some quotes on the subject:   From Fundamentals of Organ Playing by Richard Enright:   "The body should be erect but with realxed shoulders. Any superfluous = motion is to be avoided, elbows remaining motionless and close to the body."   A quote from Girolamo Diruta, Il Transilvano, 1593-(from the Harold = Gleason Book-Method of Organ Playing)   "The organist should seat himself so that he will be in the center of the keyboard, the player should not make bodily movements, but should keep = himself erect and graceful, hand and body."   Many more could be found, but its time for me to go to my parents house.   happy thanksgiving, most respectfully, gfc         Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Student Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: OT: Mac MIDI Interface for OS9 and OSX From: "Thurletta Brown-Gavins" <TMBROWN@vance.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:16:57 -0500   I am an organist/choir director and need help fast as Advent/Christmas is staring me in the face and I *need* to be able to use my keyboard and = Finale!   I just got a new dual-boot G4 Mac and had hoped to use a KeySpan twin Serial/USB adapter to get my old Altech MIDIFace LX to communicate with Finale 2002 and my Yamaha PSR-79 keyboard (interface worked with PM 7600 w/Sonnet G4 card), but no go on the new machine. (On the PM 7600 using OS 9.1, the Altech MIDIFace LX worked perfectly with Finale and the keyboard hooked through an Interex switch box hooked into the modem serial port.)   I returned the KeySpan serial/USB adapter after reading that it will not = work.   One correspondent highly endorses the M-AUDIO MIDISPORT 1x1 as being the *only* adapter that will work with Classic. (Altech seems to have disappeared from the face of the earth, so before I order anything, I thought I'd check with you to see what you are using for your MIDI music.)   Another correspondent says that Coda told him that the Ediron (Roland) UM-2 is the only thing that works with OS 9. (Apparently, it also works with OS X, so that might be the way to go so I'll be ready when I have cash for upgading from Finale 2002 to one that is compatible with OSX.   The new G4 has OS 9.2 and OS 10.3. IT DOES HAVE AN INTERNAL MODEM AND THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME OF THE PROBLEM. I could get the Keyspan to play a note (not a chord) on the keyboard with FreeMIDI, but if I hit a note on the keyboard, there was nothing.   My Finale 2002 runs only in Classic and I can't afford to get 2004 when it comes out...yet there is hope for future years. I really purchased the dual-boot to be able to "stay current" without having to buy all new X software, which I can't afford now. (By the way, an Adaptec PowerDomain 2930 and AsanteTalk Ethernet Bridge have allowed me to use my legacy Apple Personal LaserWriter, SCSI ZIP 100 drive, and UMAX SCSI scanner! And, believe it or not, Word 5.1a, PhotoShop 3.0.5, and MYOB 4 work perfectly in 9.2!)   Anyway, any recommendations from Mac users in this list on reasonably priced USB MIDI interfaces that you KNOW works with 9.2 and 10.3 on a dual-boot G4 Mac with an internal modem would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks in advance for any help you can provide as soon as possible.   Thurletta M. Brown-Gavins  
(back) Subject: Re: Economy of motion (was Re: Book of fiction about organist) From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 14:28:10 -0500   > > And outside the organ world, has anyone > ever seen Eric Clapton play guitar? One of > the most interesting aspects of a Cream or > Blind Faith concert was that those > thousands of wailing, shrieking, thundering > guitar notes were coming from this guy > standing stock-still on stage moving just > about nothing except his fingers. MAF > Hello Michael, Your example ignores the fact that the audience can see Clapton's face. The emotion of the music need not be contrived or exaggerated. Most organ performance denies the audience the performer's face, so we depend upon body movement and posture for those signals, no mater how subtle. I can't argue with economy of movement because I'm not an organist. As an audience member, I can tell you I appreciate expressive performers provided it's done with good taste. I have seen Felix perform many more times than any other organist because he creates a far more satisfying musical experience than any other performer I've heard. My home turf is Severance Hall where I've held season tickets to the organ series for the past 3 years. Severance attracts world class performers the likes of Tom Murray, Fred Swann, John Weaver, Simon Preston, Gillian Weir, Jane Parker-Smith, James O Donnell, and Curator, Todd Wilson. Yet I've been known to give away my tickets to go hear Felix play a small tracker 120 miles away. You can argue my reasons all you want, but Felix's stage presence and personality always guarantee I will come away far richer. So, keep your movement economical if you must, but don't delude yourself that you are doing the audience any favors. And be prepared to be pigeon holed on the popular recitalist list, particularly if you can't seem to keep your dance card filled. When I pull the wishbone today, I will not be wishing for more wooden, expressionless, passionless recitalists.   Happy Thanksgiving Mike Gettelman    
(back) Subject: Re: OT: Mac MIDI Interface for OS9 and OSX From: "Vern Jones" <soundres@foothill.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:39:28 -0800   Hello Thurletta,   Either the Edirol UM-1, UM-2 or UM-4 series or the MIDIsport 1x1, 2x2 or 4x4 series will work on your USB port.   Also check out the Mark of the Unicorn MIDI adapters or Opcode. These are all MAC compliant.   Most can be found on E-Bay under MIDI Adapters. Happy Thanksgiving.   Musically yours,   Vern, http://www.Sound-Research.net   Thurletta Brown-Gavins wrote: > > I am an organist/choir director and need help fast as Advent/Christmas > is staring me in the face and I *need* to be able to use my keyboard and = Finale! > > I just got a new dual-boot G4 Mac and had hoped to use a KeySpan twin > Serial/USB adapter to get my old Altech MIDIFace LX to communicate with > Finale 2002 and my Yamaha PSR-79 keyboard (interface worked with PM 7600 > w/Sonnet G4 card), but no go on the new machine. (On the PM 7600 using > OS 9.1, the Altech MIDIFace LX worked perfectly with Finale and the > keyboard hooked through an Interex switch box hooked into the modem > serial port.) > > I returned the KeySpan serial/USB adapter after reading that it will not = work. > > One correspondent highly endorses the M-AUDIO MIDISPORT 1x1 as being the > *only* adapter that will work with Classic. (Altech seems to have > disappeared from the face of the earth, so before I order anything, I > thought I'd check with you to see what you are using for your MIDI = music.) > > Another correspondent says that Coda told him that the Ediron (Roland) > UM-2 is the only thing that works with OS 9. (Apparently, it also works > with OS X, so that might be the way to go so I'll be ready when I have > cash for upgading from Finale 2002 to one that is compatible with OSX. > > The new G4 has OS 9.2 and OS 10.3. IT DOES HAVE AN INTERNAL MODEM AND > THAT MAY HAVE CAUSED SOME OF THE PROBLEM. I could get the Keyspan to > play a note (not a chord) on the keyboard with FreeMIDI, but if I hit a > note on the keyboard, there was nothing. > > My Finale 2002 runs only in Classic and I can't afford to get 2004 when > it comes out...yet there is hope for future years. I really purchased > the dual-boot to be able to "stay current" without having to buy all > new X software, which I can't afford now. (By the way, an Adaptec > PowerDomain 2930 and AsanteTalk Ethernet Bridge have allowed me to use > my legacy Apple Personal LaserWriter, SCSI ZIP 100 drive, and UMAX SCSI > scanner! And, believe it or not, Word 5.1a, PhotoShop 3.0.5, and MYOB 4 > work perfectly in 9.2!) > > Anyway, any recommendations from Mac users in this list on reasonably > priced USB MIDI interfaces that you KNOW works with 9.2 and 10.3 on a > dual-boot G4 Mac with an internal modem would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can provide as soon as possible. > > Thurletta M. Brown-Gavins > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: OT: Mac MIDI Interface for OS9 and OSX From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:21:33 -0600   At 2:16 PM -0500 11/27/03, Thurletta Brown-Gavins wrote: > >Anyway, any recommendations from Mac users in this list on reasonably >priced USB MIDI interfaces that you KNOW works with 9.2 and 10.3 on a >dual-boot G4 Mac with an internal modem would be greatly appreciated.   Thurletta   You might want to check out Mark of the Unicorn's "FastLane" (USB) interface. According to their web site it works with the MAC OS although I couldn't determine if it would work with OS9. it is priced at about $80. Their web site is at: http://www.markoftheunicorn.com/ and you will have to click through "Products" and "MIDI Interfaces" to find it.   If it seems to be something that might work for you, you should email them or call them before buying one to make sure it will work with OS9. But i did find some drivers that seem to be for OS9 although most things are for OS X.   The other place you might look is on the "Mac In Touch" site which has a page devoted to "Making Music" http://www.macintouch.com/makemusic.html - there are all sorts of links at the bottom to various other sites where you might find an answer.   Hope this helps.   David (Your List Owner who runs all MACS and has moved everything over to OS X)  
(back) Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:41:50 -0600   -----Original Message----- From: Gfc234@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 12:03:35 EST Subject: Re: Book of fiction about organist   > In a message dated 11/27/2003 9:18:25 AM Central Standard Time, > sbest@borg.com writes: > "All of know that good players sit almost perfectly still....?" Where > did > THAT come from? Count me as one of those who doesn't know that at all. > Best > case to destroy that myth? The incomparable Felix Hell. > > Steve Best in Utica, nY > Economy of motion-I think Lemmens was WAY into that. Follow the > lineage. It > is a concept that is applied by the best musicians on all instruments > (except > for piano anyway :). Why make extra motions and gestures, especially > contrived ones? To put on a show? To make look like your really doing > something > hard? It's a waste of time, and gets in the way of the music, and can > even > prevent someome from playing right notes. > > Just my opinion- > Have a wonderful Thanksgiving everyone! > gfc > > > Gregory Ceurvorst > M.M. Organ Performance Student > Northwestern University > Director of Music and Organist > St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL > 847.332.2788 home > 708.243.2549 mobile > gfc234@aol.com   My old harpsichord professor used to say (about five times per lesson), "Choreograph your articulation." My organ professor always tells us to let our bodies conduct. And, how do you direct a choir unless you move your head?   Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI AIM: AliciaMZAMZ "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"      
(back) Subject: Body movement or gyrations? From: "Richard Schneider" <arpschneider@starband.net> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 19:58:30 -0600   Alicia Zeilenga wrote:   > My old harpsichord professor used to say (about five times per > lesson), "Choreograph your articulation." My organ professor always > tells us to let our bodies conduct. And, how do you direct a choir > unless you move your head?   Choreography is one thing, but gyrating as though (pardon the crassness, but. . .!) you're "having sex with the organ" is quite another! My organ Prof. was another one who believed that "economy of motion" was the mark = of a professional, but some people I've watched perform move around so much that you seriously think they're "getting off", rather than performing music!   Some of what I've witnessed is so disgusting and crass in appearance that it could be easily equated with the antics of some of the more vile and perverse rock bands! This, to me, seems incongruous with the dignity and nobility of the organ; particularly in a church setting!   Faithfully,   G.A.   -- Richard Schneider, PRES/CEO <>< Schneider Pipe Organs, Inc. 41-43 Johnston St./P.O. Box 137 Kenney, IL 61749-0137 (217) 944-2454 VOX (877) 944-2454 TOLL-FREE (217) 944-2527 FAX arpschneider@starband.net Home Office EMAIL arp@schneiderpipeorgans.com SHOP EMAIL http://www.schneiderpipeorgans.com URL ADDRESS    
(back) Subject: Re: Body movement or gyrations? From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:23:53 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I recall, as a youth of fifteen, watching, and being very bored by the visual non-entity that was Fernando Germani.   He barely moved an inch or two on the organ bench, and stayed absolutely statuesque at the console.   NEVER have I heard finer Reger, and his feet were flying around!   Also, he remainded facially expressionless throughout.   Personally, I just go for the music.....if I want to watch music and movement, I can go to the contemporary dance performances.   Anyway, an organist knows they have arrived when the AUDIENCE move to the music....just so long as it isn't through the exit door.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK             __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/