PipeChat Digest #4033 - Wednesday, October 1, 2003
 
RE: Scary phone call
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Scary phone call
  by "Paul Marshall" <p.marsh@rcn.com>
Re: Scary phone call
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Scary phone call
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Pedalling and Compton's
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Scary phone call
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Scary phone call
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: Pedalling and Compton's
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
RE: Favorite Hymns
  by "Mark Turnbull" <mark.turnbull@bbc.co.uk>
Guitar and Organ
  by "Thurletta Brown-Gavins" <TMBROWN@vance.net>
 

(back) Subject: RE: Scary phone call From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 19:45:05 -0500   I'm stupid enough to talk to him about it, see if that's really what he wants and why, and perhaps even do it, even if I had to transcribe it myself. I've heard much worse done at church services, and who knows? There might be a very good reason for it. Of course, I'm silly enough to like Shelley's idea with the paper bags - can I use that sometime?   Have you never played something at church that others might consider inappropriate? If you've played ANYTHING secular (and at least half or more of the organ literature could be classified as such), then your second argument doesn't hold water.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Charles Peery   Is there an organ transcription of this piece? I don't own one, and if there's no published arrangement, that might be my out. If I say I don't play secular stuff in church, then what if he hits me with Lohengrin and Midsummer Night's Dream? Or, could I say that the dramatic effect of trying to do this on the organ would be comedic and is that what he intends during worship?   What would you do? What should I say? Thanks in advance.          
(back) Subject: RE: Scary phone call From: "Paul Marshall" <p.marsh@rcn.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:23:33 -0500   Is it possible he means the hymn tune "Russia," the old Czarist national anthem that figures so dramatically in that overture. In the Hymnal 1940 it is the tune for "God, the Omnipotent...give to us peace in our time, O Lord?"   Paul Marshall       -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Tim Bovard Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:56 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Scary phone call   At 03:36 PM 9/30/2003 -0400, Chuck wrote: >The message concerns his desire for me to play the 1812 Overture on the   >organ in conjunction with a sermon he wants to do in November. <snip> >What would you do? What should I say?     Silly question here -- are you absolutely certain that HIS "1812" is in fact THE "1812"? In other words, is there the slightest possibility that he has that name mixed up with another orchestral warhorse?   I just gotta wonder....<G>   ....what on earth the real 1812 Overture would have to do with anything in a Methodist sermon...especially at x-mas time. (don't forget, most Methodists don't really do advent, except for the little purple candle wreath that gets dug out of the attic with the rest of the x-mas decorations, as soon as Thanksgiving's over...)   Do let us know what becomes of this. I'm certain I'm not the only one who is curious to hear the rest of the story!   Cheers,   Tim   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Scary phone call From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 22:45:24 -0400     Oh, surely he means more than that. The 1812 Overture has passed into popular culture, is heard in commercials and cartoons. Not the entire piece, of course, but more than the Russian Hymn. It would be a good opportunity to use not only the organ cannon stop, should Charles have = one, but the chimes!   Now, if he means to use it in Advent, I have no idea....     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu         on 9/30/03 11:23 PM, Paul Marshall at p.marsh@rcn.com wrote:   > Is it possible he means the hymn tune "Russia," the old Czarist national > anthem that figures so dramatically in that overture. In the Hymnal 1940 > it is the tune for "God, the Omnipotent...give to us peace in our time, > O Lord?" > > Paul Marshall > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Tim Bovard > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:56 PM > To: PipeChat > Subject: Re: Scary phone call > > At 03:36 PM 9/30/2003 -0400, Chuck wrote: >> The message concerns his desire for me to play the 1812 Overture on the > >> organ in conjunction with a sermon he wants to do in November. > <snip> >> What would you do? What should I say? > > > Silly question here -- are you absolutely certain that HIS "1812" is in > fact THE "1812"? In other words, is there the slightest possibility > that > he has that name mixed up with another orchestral warhorse? > > I just gotta wonder....<G> > > ...what on earth the real 1812 Overture would have to do with anything > in a > Methodist sermon...especially at x-mas time. (don't forget, most > Methodists > don't really do advent, except for the little purple candle wreath that > gets dug out of the attic with the rest of the x-mas decorations, as > soon > as Thanksgiving's over...) > > Do let us know what becomes of this. I'm certain I'm not the only one > who > is curious to hear the rest of the story! > > Cheers, > > Tim > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Scary phone call From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:50:25 -0500   You might try calling your local Episcopal Cathedral and see if they have any Canons they wish to fire!   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Re: Pedalling and Compton's From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:10:25 -0400   Hi, all. Exactly, John. I just spent Sunday and Monday evenings with Dame Gillian, and she made ample use of both heels in all the Bach she played, including trio sonatas, the Vivaldi/ Bach a minor, and even the Adagio from the C major T,A,&F. Monday evening she was wearing spikes! Her presentation for the guild meeting was all about rhythm, attack and release, staccato and legato, and how balancing these makes all the difference between exciting music and deadly-dull.   -WG     > "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Dear List, > Reading Malcolm's post today and his mention of > Gillian Weir ties in with the discussion on pedalling > - toes and heels. There are very few really memorable > performances I have heard, but one was Dame Gillian's > of the Bach D major at the Royal Festival Hall back in > the 60's. I can't remember the rest of the programme > now, but I do remember that, and I am sure she used > both heels and toes. It brought the house down. Since > we both studied with Ralph Downes and I have my > original marked copy of the D major from my student > days, which uses both heels and toes, I expect she > probably did - and does - likewise. > It doesn't really seem to matter to me which technique > you use, provided you have control over rhythm, attack > and release, and staccato and legato. You do need to > exercise your ankles, and keep your feet as near the > pedalboard as you can - also the sharps are a useful > landmark when you are practising. Personally I find > using heels and toes requires less movement, and the > elimination of unnecessary movement is a key factor in > good performance.    
(back) Subject: Re: Scary phone call From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:25:43 -0400   Chuck,   You play for a UMC and don't do secular stuff? Hmm. Are you sure? Just do it! The Pastor obviously wants to have some fun, so have some yourself. He probably only wants the bit at the end that everyone knows and you can probably fake your way through enough of that to get the job done. Just listen to it a few times - It's not difficult.   But by all means let us know what you decide! ;-)   -WG     > "Charles Peery" <cepeery@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Your advice, please?! > > On my answering machine is a message from our new associate pastor. > Early 30's, smart, likes classical music. This summer he switched over > from Church of the Nazarene to our United Methodist conference, and was > appointed to us by the Bishop. The message concerns his desire for me > to play the 1812 Overture on the organ in conjunction with a sermon he > wants to do in November. ...    
(back) Subject: Re: Scary phone call From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:32:32 EDT   In a message dated 9/30/03 3:39:01 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cepeery@earthlink.net writes:   << The message concerns his desire for me to play the 1812 Overture on the =   organ in conjunction with a sermon he wants to do in November. >>     If you do it, you should have the choir sing the choir parts, in Russian (i.e., the beginning chorale, a few places later in the piece, and finally = the Russian hymn-tune near the end.)  
(back) Subject: Re: Pedalling and Compton's From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 00:25:06 EDT   Hi David:   I just reloaded an older version of AOL and hope this works. Let me know how this looks, and works.   My Comments about Dame Weir and a recital at Crystal Cathedral a few years ago. She has quite a dry sense of humor. Fred Swann gave Dame Gillian a build up introduction. She threw her head back, and litterally vamped her way clear across the stage in her backless gown. It really showed it off too. I can still see her do it and it was quite amusing. There was a bitter cold wind blowing outside, and she saved her big pieces using enchamade reeds til near the end. The longer she played the colder it got. When she finally unleased the big work of the night, the reeds you guessed it were cooler than the rest of the pipe work. She played as superbly as possible without flinching with the big reeds nearly a quarter tone out of tune. At the end of the program, she smiled, bowed, and vamped out. The amazing thing is nothing bothered the playing, what a trooper. In a way I felt the cold ruined a fine performance, but I gained a great deal of respect for the performer. She did what we all must do, play and don't stop for anything, not even a bad reed stop. There surely was nothing else that could have been done anyway.   Ron Severin   PS if this is satisfactory David please let me know, or I will attempt some other solutions that will hopefully work. For the rest of you AOL has been making problems in version 9.0 to this list. I hope this corrects it.    
(back) Subject: RE: Favorite Hymns From: "Mark Turnbull" <mark.turnbull@bbc.co.uk> Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:13:02 +0100   Hi. Thanks to whoever put this list together. I present a three hour god programme on a bbc local radio station in england, and, this contains a few grand ideas for playing on air. Cheers. Mark turnbull   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of David Evangelides Sent: 30 September 2003 17:26 To: PipeChat Subject: Favorite Hymns     Thanks to all for your responses on your favorite Hymns.   104 Entries were received, and tabulated below in Alphabetical order. =20 With our various demonimations, cultural backgrounds and from the US &=20 abroad, we have much in common with our Christian faith. Consider this:   most of the well written hymns document the entire Gospel message from=20 redemption to the Second Coming. Some songs, I haven't sung in a long=20 time, and they bring back great memories.   Some hymns were not familiar to me, so pardon any spelling errors. I=20 will send a separate listing of Hymn Tunes as well.   Again, thanks for your kind participation.     ORGANISTS' CHOICE OF FAVORITE HYMNS:   A Mighty Fortress Abide With Me All Hail The Power Of Jesus' Name All my hope on God is founded Am I A Soldier Of The Cross Amazing Grace And Did Those Feet in Ancient Time Behold a Sower! Beneath The Cross Of Jesus Blessed Assurance, Jesus is mine! Blest Be The Tie That Binds Breathe On Me, Breath Of God Christ For The World We Sing Christ is made the sure foundation Come, Holy Spirit, Heavenly Dove Come, labor on Come, Ye Disconsolate Crown Him With Many Crowns Dear Lord And Father Of Mankind Dear Lord and God of Humankind (... and Father of mankind) Fairest Lord Jesus Faith Of Our Fathers For all the saints Glorious things of thee are spoken God Be With You Till We Meet Again God Of Grace And God Of Glory God of Our Fathers (God of the Ages) Golden Harps Are Sounding Guide Me, O Thou Great Jehovah Hark, Hark My Soul He keeps me singing He Leadeth Me He Who Would Valiant Be Holy God We Praise Thy Name Holy, Holy, Holy How Firm A Foundation How Great Thou Art I Heard The Voice Of Jesus Say I Love Thy Kingdom, Lord I Need Thee Every Hour I stand amazed in the presence In The Cross Of Christ I Glory In the Garden In The Hour Of Trial Jerusalem Jesus Calls Us Jesus Shall Reign Jesus, And Shall It Ever Be Jesus, My Saviour, Look On Me Jesus, The Very Thought Of Thee Joyful, joyful, we adore thee Just As I Am Lead on, O King Eternal Lead Us, Heav'nly Father, Lead Us Lead Us, O Father Lead, Kindly Light Lift High the Cross Lift Up Your Heads Lord, Dismiss Us With Thy Blessing Love divine, all loves excelling Master of Eager Youth My Faith Looks Up To Thee Nearer, My God, To Thee Now, my tongue, the mystery telling O Day of Rest and Gladness O For A Closer Walk With God O For A Thousand Tongues To Sing O Jesus, Thou Art Standing O Lamb Of God, Still Keep Me O Love That Wilt Not Let Me Go O Saviour, Precious Saviour On Our Way Rejoicing Onward, Christian Soldiers Praise, my soul, the King of heaven Redeemed, How I Love to Proclaim it Rejoice, Ye Pure In Heart Rise Up, O Men Of God Rise, Crowned With Light Rock Of Ages Saved! Saved Saviour, Again To Thy Dear Name We Raise Sing them over again to me, wonderful words of life Soon May The Last Glad Song Arise St. Agatha's Hymn Stand Up, Stand Up For Jesus Standing on the Promises of God Take My Life, And Let It Be The Church's One Foundation The Old Rugged Cross There's a Wideness In God's Mercy Thou Didst Leave Thy Throne Thou Hidden Love Of God, Whose Height Through the Night of Doubt and Sorrow Tis Winter Now Trusting Jesus Watchman, Tell Us of the Night Were you there What A Friend We Have In Jesus What Wondrous Love Is This? When I Survey The Wondrous Cross When Morning Gilds The Skies When the roll is called up yonder Ye holy angels bright Ye Watchers and Ye Holy Ones     David E   International Bible Society Colorado Springs, CO     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Guitar and Organ From: "Thurletta Brown-Gavins" <TMBROWN@vance.net> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2003 04:10:48 -0400   Someone on the list recently asked about music for guitar and organ.   That reminded me of the guitarist (thankfully of the classical ilk) who is coming to play for the children's choir for our Christmas Eve service, so I did a Google search and found these links: http://www.yatesguitar.com/duets&trios/duets&trios.html http://alan.melvin.com/ http://www.virtualsheetmusic.com/downloads/Bach/JesuGu.html   This last link had some free harmonizations (non-guitar) that might be of use to everyone: http://www.rodeby.net/churchmusic/   Thurletta