PipeChat Digest #4047 - Saturday, October 11, 2003
 
Re: Today's Organ
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
RE: Jose Lidon
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Brazilian Sleighbells
  by "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Popular music played on non-theatre organs
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Flash photography
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Jose Lidon
  by "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com>
Re: Flash photography
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Iste confessor
  by "Rob Meyer, Jr." <rmeyer@stpeterslutheranchurch.net>
Re: Iste confessor
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Key West, Florida
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Key West, Florida
  by "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com>
Re: Iste confessor
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Key West, Florida
  by "Don Sizemore" <dls@metalab.unc.edu>
Re: Key West, Florida
  by "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu>
Re: Today's Organ
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Concert or recital
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: Key West, Florida
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
David Yearsley
  by "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu>
Re: Key West, Florida
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
RE: Jose Lidon
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: REHEARSING WITH ORGAN AND SINGING FLAT
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
RE: REHEARSING WITH ORGAN AND SINGING FLAT
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
RE: REHEARSING WITH ORGAN AND SINGING FLAT
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Today's Organ From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:18:38 -0400   >Only thing missing, Nazard and Tierce Sw. and >Fl. Harm. 8' Great. All the essentials are there.   Good morning!   I had an apprentice moment! I had 2 stops backwards The 8' open = flute is in the great and is harmonic, and the 2' is in the swell, duh! = (there's also a 8' wood flute in the swell)   The console is so handsome on it! The case is a light color, with = cathedral style panels. The cheeks, jambs, bottom board, and coupler = rail area are all stained dark, like cherry. The knobs are celluloid = and are bushed with green felt with decorative wood rings around each = draw knob shaft. The couplers are celluloid as well and are big and = fat. Also, the unisons are all lettered in red. The toe studs are HUGE = and appear to be brass-like. The Choir and Swell are mechanical action, = and those boxes seal up tight! Very thick and heavy in build too.   By the way, I heard yesterday that celluloid is extremely flammable! = Does anyone have an experience with that?   = -Nate   "The = can't remember the organ he tuned 2 hours ago apprentice"  
(back) Subject: RE: Jose Lidon From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:48:43 -0500   Thanks to those replying for the information - you were so helpful.   I know I should be looking in my Henderson, but am on my way out the door to court. Does anyone know if Lidon did more than one sonata, and if they are compiled in one volume or set of volumes?   Thanks again, and happy Friday.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Brazilian Sleighbells From: "Tom Hoehn" <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:06:32 -0400   To the lists:   Thank you all -- the response has been overwhelming. The request has been fulfilled.   Tom Hoehn, Organist Roaring 20's Pizza & Pipes, Ellenton, FL (substitute - 4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/9?- = Rodgers/Ruffati/Wicks) CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/DTOS/AGO http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn        
(back) Subject: Re: Popular music played on non-theatre organs From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:06:33 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   That is not an honest opinion, it is a decleration of WAR!   Nothing on earth blends so beautifully as a well set-up Wurlitzer in a good building. It really WAS a very remarkable attempt at orchestral synthesis, but even better as a big band sound.   OF COURSE, it depends who's playing the Wurlitzer!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- Wuxuzusu@aol.com wrote: ! > Actually, playing popular > music on romantic organs such as Austin and Skinner > proves to be a much > greater challenge and more rewarding than playing > this literature on theatre > organs. These manufacturers actually VOICED their > organs to blend properly. > > > IMHO, of course :-)     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Flash photography From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 06:10:42 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Celluloid is extremely flammable, and many is the time that whole cinemas have been burned to the ground by the ignition of celluloid film in the projectors.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK --- Bigaquarium <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> wrote: > By the way, I heard yesterday that celluloid is > extremely flammable! Does anyone have an experience > with that?     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Jose Lidon From: "Robert Lind" <lindr@core.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 08:55:43 -0500   Lidon's Sonata de 1er tono is the first thing in this volume I recently bought:   Obras Completas para Organo--Fasciculo 2 (Sonatas y piezas varias) Editions Schola Cantorum Procure Generale de Musique 2114 Fleurier (Suisse)   The ornamentation article in this volume is written by Guy Bovet.   I had not ever played the first sonata until I bought this, and I was excited about what I had been missing all these years. After playing = through the volume, I decided the first sonata was far and away the best thing in there.   Bob Lind   ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 6:48 AM Subject: RE: Jose Lidon     > Thanks to those replying for the information - you were so helpful. > > I know I should be looking in my Henderson, but am on my way out the > door to court. Does anyone know if Lidon did more than one sonata, and > if they are compiled in one volume or set of volumes? > > Thanks again, and happy Friday. > > Glenda Sutton      
(back) Subject: Re: Flash photography From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:50:28 +0100   Colin,   And even more inflammable were the theatres themselves ! ....... I heard = in a recent BBC programme that the life-expectancy of Music Halls (not = Variety theatres) was TEN years. But then, they were exceptionally civilised in those days, and allowed the drinking of alcohol in the auditorium during performances. One of the changes which brought in 'Variety' was the law that 'drink' = must be drunk in the bars.   Chagrin all round then, folks ?   Harry Grove [a.k.a. musicman]     -----Original Message----- From: Colin Mitchell <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 10 October 2003 14:11 Subject: Flash photography     >Hello, > >Celluloid is extremely flammable, and many is the time >that whole cinemas have been burned to the ground by >the ignition of celluloid film in the projectors.      
(back) Subject: Iste confessor From: "Rob Meyer, Jr." <rmeyer@stpeterslutheranchurch.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:23:22 -0400   List Members,   Can anyone recomend anything on the tune iste confessor. I am looking = for service music using the tune, hymn concertatos, chorale preludes, = anything. =20   Thank you for your help in advance. If you are interested I will post a = compilation later.   Thanks -   Rob Meyer, Jr. Music Director St. Peter's Lutheran Church Eastpointe, MI LC-MS    
(back) Subject: Re: Iste confessor From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:39:10 -0400   There is an instance of the Iste Conferror by John Bull, in the early music album edited by E. Power Biggs.   Ron  
(back) Subject: Key West, Florida From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:52:08 -0400     Anyone know of any interesting organs on this tiny outpost?     Jim  
(back) Subject: Re: Key West, Florida From: "C. Joseph Nichols" <cjn@nicholsandsimpson.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:57:58 -0500   > > Anyone know of any interesting organs on this tiny outpost?     I believe that Bob Campbell in Terra Ceia, Florida takes care of what is down there.   His e-mail is beefallo@earthlink.net   C. Joseph Nichols Nichols & Simpson, Inc. www.nicholsandsimpson.com      
(back) Subject: Re: Iste confessor From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 10:18:17 -0700   I know Sowerby wrote one, probably in the H. W. Gray St. Cecelia Series, but I doubt it's still in print.   There are one or more settings in Guilmant's L'Organiste Liturgique ... I don't recall offhand whether he sets the Gregorian melody, or the French Breviary melody, or both.   Which are you looking for? "Iste Confessor" in The English Hymnal is an "Angers Church Melody" in G major; the tune I'M familiar with for "Iste confessor" is the great marching "Rouen church melody" at #228, second tune in The Hymnal 1940, printed with the Consecration of a Church Office Hymn text. #228, 1st tune IS one of several proper Gregorian melodies for that text.   Cheers,   Bud   Rob Meyer, Jr. wrote:   > List Members, > > Can anyone recomend anything on the tune iste confessor. I am looking > for service music using the tune, hymn concertatos, chorale preludes, > anything. > > Thank you for your help in advance. If you are interested I will post a =   > compilation later. > > Thanks - > > Rob Meyer, Jr. > Music Director > St. Peter's Lutheran Church > Eastpointe, MI > LC-MS      
(back) Subject: Re: Key West, Florida From: "Don Sizemore" <dls@metalab.unc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:29:33 -0400 (EDT)     |Anyone know of any interesting organs on this tiny outpost?   Be sure to check out the Austin(?) in St. Paul's Episcopal.   http://www.stpaulskw.org/    
(back) Subject: Re: Key West, Florida From: "MARAUDER" <kmoyer@marauder.millersville.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 13:59:46 -0400   There's a fairly big four-manual in St. Paul's Episocpal Church there.   Karl E. Moyer Lancaster PA   > From: James R McFarland <mcfarland6@juno.com> > Reply-To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 12:52:08 -0400 > To: mcfarland6@juno.com > Subject: Key West, Florida > > > Anyone know of any interesting organs on this tiny outpost? > > > Jim > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Today's Organ From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 14:04:38 -0400   Hi Nate:   Celluloid doesn't spontaniously combust or catch fire. It's like the asbestos controversy. It's of no harm product in place, but can be if disturbed as in removal. A little background, most if not all occurances of lung problems were caused in the manufacture of its various products. The workers didn't wear protective breathing gear, as the hazard was unknown then. Installers weren't aware of the problems either, but the nasty secret is it's safe in place. To remove it creates an additional but unnecessary hazard. Would I recommend putting up more of the stuff? NO!   Ron Severin  
(back) Subject: Re: Concert or recital From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 11:27:08 -0700       Alan Freed wrote:   > I wouldn't want to pound the table about it, but I think that Del's > definition fits very well with my own understanding of the words. > > Maybe a performance by a small ensemble (string quartet, woodwind trio) > could be called a "recital"?   Yes, I should have included that.   Del  
(back) Subject: Re: Key West, Florida From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:06:47 -0400   Hey, Y'all!   Actually the firm of Guzowski and Steppe (Wally Guzowski, John Steppe, = Christopher Kane) service a large number of organs in the Keys, as well. = They have a listing in TAO each month. Give them a call. They are = wonderfully fine gentlemen.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea  
(back) Subject: David Yearsley From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 16:39:47 -0400   Sometime in the early 1980s I heard a fine recital in Seattle by a = regional contest winner named who was then an underclassman or perhaps = still in high school. I'm almost certain that his name was David = Yearsley.   Now comes a review of a new book written by David Yearsley: _Bach and = the meanings of counterpoint_, published by the very prestigious = Cambridge University Press. The reviewer praises the book as a = "fascinating study" bringing together subjects as diverse as the Luthern = art of dying, alchemy, and politics; his "clear and unpretentious = writing style and his command of a remarkably wide range of historical = and cultural material"; and pronounces him "a significant new voice in = Bach studies."   The OCLC database lists another monograph (possibly a dissertation-- the = catalog reecord is extremely sketchy) by David Gaynor Yearsley, Ph.D., = Stanford University, 1994, entitled "Ideologies of learned counterpoint = in the North German baroque." =20   Does anyone know the author David Yearsley, or the organist David = Yearsley? Are they the same guy? (My hunch is that the answer is yes, = and I just hope that he has kept up with his distinguished organ = playing, too.)    
(back) Subject: Re: Key West, Florida From: "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 18:28:15 -0400   <<<<<,Anyone know of any interesting organs on this tiny outpost?>>>   Key West is not as tiny as you think. It's actually a small and very busy city, not a village. Last time I was there we took the tour and the guide told how many = bars and how many churches. There were quite a lot of churches, a lot more = than I expected. Maybe something like 150? There must be some organs there, and I know there are some on the = keys along the way, because someplace I saw a job opening for a church = organist. Just do a search. There are pages and pages on Key West.   Diane S.   --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Information Boulevard's Virus = Scanning]    
(back) Subject: RE: Jose Lidon From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 19:11:51 -0500   Thanks so much, Bob. I knew there had to be at least another volume of this. The first volume was good, if all-manual music. Is all Lidon's music manuals only?   These aren't bad editions at all, although a little expensive. Thanks for the information - I can now track down and order it.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Robert Lind   Lidon's Sonata de 1er tono is the first thing in this volume I recently bought:   Obras Completas para Organo--Fasciculo 2 (Sonatas y piezas varias) Editions Schola Cantorum Procure Generale de Musique 2114 Fleurier (Suisse)   The ornamentation article in this volume is written by Guy Bovet.   I had not ever played the first sonata until I bought this, and I was excited about what I had been missing all these years. After playing through the volume, I decided the first sonata was far and away the best thing in there.        
(back) Subject: RE: REHEARSING WITH ORGAN AND SINGING FLAT From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:51:57 -0500   > Sing "Beautiful Savior" in > D-flat major and there's no WAY not to go flat. <SNIP> But if you sing = it in C# major you avoid going flat?   Alan, go to your room! :)   Jeff    
(back) Subject: RE: REHEARSING WITH ORGAN AND SINGING FLAT From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:52:33 -0500   > So, is there a physiological or biological/mechanical reason why we tend > to sing 'flat', and not go 'sharp'? I know it's true that the endency = is > for the voices to go down. if we can figure it out, it may help us > resolve it. > > David E   Interesting point....isn't a case of tiring muscles? Or is it truly a mental exercise?   Curious! Jeff    
(back) Subject: RE: REHEARSING WITH ORGAN AND SINGING FLAT From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:56:03 -0500   > To make this thread on-topic, what do you all recommend by way of > registration when you must accompany a rehearsal on the organ, > and do you think it's a good idea at all?   If I were rehearsing with the organ, which I do not think is a good idea, I'd use an 8' + 2' flute combination. I used to not like rehearsing in = the sanctuary either, but now have no real choice.   The reason I do not think it's a good idea:   1 - Pianos are percussive; helps teach them the beat of the music. Disadvantage: the transfer to the organ for accompaniment relies on them having ACTUALLY internalizing.   2 - What about harmonics? Does a piano have a different range, easier for the ear to hear in order to learn parts? (Not fact...a question.)   Why not in the sanctuary? Rehearsal rooms tend not to be as large, and therefore not causing the choir to over-work their voices trying to "fill" the room. It also is easier to hear more minute differences in sound, = where the church may actually blend the deviations out through the acoustics.   These are things I've learned from OTHER choir directors. I'm interested = in your thoughts on these.   Jeff