PipeChat Digest #4062 - Tuesday, October 21, 2003
Re: Food for thought (reply)
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4060 - 10/20/03
  by <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4061 - 10/20/03
  by <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com>
Re: Multiplex/Combination Actions
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Recital West Point, NY: Chris Pardini Sun, 26 Oct 3 PM
  by <patmai@juno.com>
Re: "Werkprinzip"
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Transcribing
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>

(back) Subject: Re: Food for thought (reply) From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:33:06 -0400   >I wish I could have $5.00 for every time I have heard a manufacturer's = rep tell me that one...=20 >The Roar turned out to be a loose connector on one of the multiplex = de-coder boards and a hair-line crack in a ground >trace on a circuit = board.   Good evening again chatters!   Yes! The current theory of this malfunction is something to do with = the multiplex system. I know nothing of these fancy devices to comment = beyond that. However, that explanation seems quite possible to my = uneducated-in-solid-statedness because if the organ is blipping at full = organ, it would make sense that the error was involved with equipment = that deals both with the stop and key action (otherwise how would it = make a sound??)   = -Nate = "The Low-tech apprentice"  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4060 - 10/20/03 From: <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 23:50:56 -0400   >From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:53:13 -0400 > >I can't help wondering what Colin had to eat that inspired such surrealism! Anyway, aren't orchestras, and choirs for that matter, terraced so that the people in the back can see over the heads of those in front? > >David Baker   Nope... tradition has it that the reason orchestras and choir are terraced is so that when someone tips over their beer that it will not remain in the same place to be sopped up by wrags and consumed during long periods of "rests".   On a further note... werkprinzip would be completely successful if executed horizontally, PROVIDED the audience was attached to the ceiling. It's merely a problem of logistics. In addition, if the audience was placed on the ceiling, yet another problem with drink spillage would arise.   The solution is purely pragmatic! ;-)   (Please pass the mushrooms!) ;-)   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> >Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 10:00:36 -0700 (PDT) > >You should know that only American and German >choristers actually watch the conductor!! >   Hence the question:   How many conductors does it take to change a light bulb?   and the answer:   No one knows. No one has ever watched!   ;-)   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   ..... and regarding Disney Hall...   I would love to see that beautiful building in a rainstorm. With those angles it will be quite a water show!   And I still think it's too bad that the organ design is not as elegant and creative as the exterior of the building. It could have been absolutely heavenly as well as dramatically different.   yada yada yada ;-) Scritchies and Haruffaroo-bahawow...   Unkie Doinky ... aka Bruce and the Baskerbeagles of HowlingAcres = http://baskerbeagles.com HELP FEED ANIMALS FOR FREE http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and = http://pets.care2.com  
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4061 - 10/20/03 From: <hydrant@baskerbeagles.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:11:47 -0400   Subject: Re: "Werkprinzip" From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> >You mean I have been led down the yellow brick rosy red path? I dont need a 8 prin on 1 and a 4 prin on the next and 2 prin on the 3rd manual?   My understanding of werkprinzip is that it is more in relation to the placement of divisions than the pitch of the principal stops. There are a significant number of large "werkprinzip" instruments with 8' principals in each division (the way doG intended!) ;-)   Can I continue to use five fingers and heels?   Wow! Kewl! You have five heels!! ??? ;-) I must take in one of your upcoming recitals!! ;-) =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   Scritchies and Haruffaroo-bahawow...   Unkie Doinky ... aka Bruce and the Baskerbeagles of HowlingAcres = http://baskerbeagles.com HELP FEED ANIMALS FOR FREE http://tinyurl.com/2j5i and = http://pets.care2.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Multiplex/Combination Actions From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 21:24:34 -0700     Jim McFarland wrote - This "new" peterson system is essentially the same thing that Classic Organ Works has been making for over fifteen years! You can try it, and be among the guinea pigs.   Del Case's reply - I regularly play an organ in the San Francisco Bay Area, not here at the college in the Napa Valley, that has a Classic system and it has problems.   The two SSL systems we have had on our Rieger have performed perfectly. The first was a single level system that at age 21 still worked perfectly. However, we replaced it with a 256 level SSL system that also works perfectly.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: Recital West Point, NY: Chris Pardini Sun, 26 Oct 3 PM From: <patmai@juno.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 00:34:23 -0400   Dear Pipechatters,   If you are within 50 -100, yea, even 150 miles of West Point, NY 722 Derussy Loop, West Point, NY 10996 for http://mapquest.com and are not involved in a recital/concert of your own, why not enjoy a drive this Sunday, October 26, to see some beautiful fall foliage in the Hudson Valley and as a bonus hear Chris Pardini play the splendid Romantic colors of the Cadet Chapel organ?   I have not yet heard him practice at the academy. Most Sunday mornings you will find him working diligently and artistically at the Crystal Cathedral, Garden Grove, CA.   WHO: J. Christopher Pardini, Organist WHERE: West Point Military Academy - Cadet Chapel WHEN: Sunday, October 26, 2003 at 3 PM   WHAT: PROGRAM Kindness of Craig Williams, Organist-Music Director, USMA Caveat: It looks fine in Microsoft Word. I pray that my cut and paste will yield a legible document following.)   Festival Toccata Percy Fletcher (1879-1932) Clair d=92Lune (from Suite Bergamasque) Claude Debussy Arranged for organ solo by Ernest White (1862-1918)   Fantasie in Eb Major Camille Saint-Sa=EBns (1835-1921) Soliloquy David Conte (b. 1955)   Rubrics (A Liturgical Suite for Organ) Dan Locklair (b.1949) I. "=85=92Hallelujah,=92 has been restored=85" II. "Silence may be kept." III. "=85and thanksgiving may follow." IV. "The Peace may be exchanged." V. "The people respond =96 Amen!"   **********INTERMISSION********** Cath=E9drales (from Pi=E8ces de Fantasie, Op. 55) Louis Vierne = (1870-1937) Sonata I in d Minor, Op. 42 Alexandre Guilmant (1837-1911) I. Introduction and Allegro II. Pastorale III. Final   Hope to see you there! Be sure to bring photo ID and allow extra time to have your car's trunk and hood popped and searched. Visitors such as you and I must needs enter West Point through Thayer Gate or Stony Lonesome Gate.   INFO: Cadet Chapel 845-938-2308   Pat Maimone recent retiree from the Post Chapel, West Point, NY District Convener, Upstate NY AGO Chapters patmai@juno.com   ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!  
(back) Subject: Re: "Werkprinzip" From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 01:23:40 EDT   Colin:   What do you mean, "rise to the bait?" I'm talking about poor fakes of the real thing. Here's what the real thing has, fundamental tone and good balance from bottom to top appropriate mixtures and upper work and tuned in period temperment. A small organ takes as much if not more thought to plan and execute than a large one. I don't particularly care how many stops an organ has, but do they blend and build into a beautiful sound? The Moeller I described had a great that looked like this: 8' 4'4' 2' IV III and a super coupler. ged. prin Fl. bk fl Sharff 2/3 and a Zimbal 1/3 It would have helped if the coupler were a sub octave. This is just poor design, and I see the hand of an organist way back when who insisted on it. Subsequent to my hearing of it an 8' Principal was added and it didn't blend. I wonder why? Two mixtures perhaps that didn't belong there in the first place, and poor scaling of the rest to match it and it was too loud. When an organ is built this badly, perhaps you need to start over from scratch. Now are all Moellers bad? No! But this one stunk. You won't find a bad organ built by a Baroque master, they just had too much pride to put out bad work. They were also charming no matter what the room acoustics were, and tuned appropriately in meantone or well temper. Everything worked to a blend. I never mentioned any other builders, nor did I express any prejudice against true baroque organs, or any of the good modern trackers. So retract that statement you made. The only organs I back are good ones, and it doesn't matter to me one wit how they are connected console to pipes. I've played good, bad and of course plenty of junk, both old and new.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Transcribing From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 16:34:15 +0100   Transcribing - transposing ?? I think these are two different things. Transposing is changing key. Transcribing is transferring the music from = one medium (eg a recording) to another (sheet music say) or re-arranging it = for different instruments.   Away with terminological inexactitude. !!   BTW Colin, you used the subject line 'Urgent request'. This usually indicates a Nigerian scam of some sort and is likely to be deleted on = sight.   Cheers,   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Transcribing     > Hello, > > Funny thing that! > > When I play that jolly little thingamibob by Percy > Whitlock in Gb major, I just dump all the flats and > substitute an F#. > > Is that cheating? > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > > --- David Baker <dbaker@lawyers.com> wrote: > > > Andrew Mead said: > > > > > > I have always transposed. When I see a score > > marked with 2 sharps, I > > > play 5 > > > flats without even thinking. >