PipeChat Digest #4064 - Wednesday, October 22, 2003
 
Re: Food for thought (really!)
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
RE: Food for thought (really!)
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Tuning Season
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Real Coffee
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
RE: Repair, Upgrade, or Replacement
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net>
Re: Real Coffee
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
RE: "Gegenbewegung"
  by "Roger Whitehead" <roger.whitehead@AES.com>
Re: Real Coffee
  by "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net>
was Tuning Season, now other tuner related stuff
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
RE: Real Coffee
  by "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca>
Re: Real Coffee- Real Spills
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Food for thought (really!) From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:27:58 -0500   Hello,   Several of us at my school eat Rolos and brownies almost religiously. It seems to help with practicing at night.   Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 17:38:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Food for thought (really!)   > On 10/21/03 4:17 PM, "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> wrote: > > > I usually get Caramel (with Half-n-half and 2 sugars if 16 oz or > over). > > And your primary medical care-giver says what? > > What I wonder is: Doesn't anybody like 'COFFEE' any more? > > > I tried the chocolate-macadamia once. Very good, but my garsh.... > when I got > > to work, I was WIRED. I figure there must be as much caffeine in > that stuff > > as a can of Jolt! > > Actually, that DOES sound quite tempting! It may not be coffee, but it > sounds like fun anyway! > > > Alan (who maybe should try Jolt, whatever that is) > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: RE: Food for thought (really!) From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:37:14 -0500   I always loved the smell of coffee, but couldn't abide the flavor, until one day at Cafe Du Monde's near Jackson Square in New Orleans. Chickory coffee that danced, with a generous dollop of hot milk/cream and a serving of beignets covered with powdered sugar. Yum!   I only like coffee after a good meal, with lots of real cream and real sugar. That's a good substitute for dessert.   Coffee, however, is hazardous to many parts of the organ - hate to think of what it does to our innards.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: RE: Tuning Season From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:37:14 -0500   We had an interesting discussion on another list several years back as to the efficacy of using gin to clean contacts.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Jason418@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:35 AM To: "PipeChat" Subject: Re: Tuning Season   In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:38:04 AM Eastern Daylight Time, quilisma@cox.net writes:   > Um ... "candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker?"     Um......which produces a better tuning? Candy or liquor? Inquiring minds want to know.          
(back) Subject: RE: Real Coffee From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 19:39:48 -0500   Post script - my friend organist Massimo Nosetti brought me Italian coffee and an espresso maker on his last trip here. That stuff is ground fine, and while he drinks it like Coke, it's not an easy imbibe for me. Prefer cappuccino and pre-sweetened Southern iced tea brewed until it is dark auburn/brown.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com            
(back) Subject: RE: Repair, Upgrade, or Replacement From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:19:28 -0400   Andres Gunther agunther@cantv.net   Sorry- I am this "someone" :)... Fifteen years *is* a long time ago for certain digital components, mostly computer systems. 30 years ago there = was the "Solid State Transistor" which was really *solid*. 15 years ago 5V TTL was 'le dernier cri'. I have the ECG manual in my library... today these are rather seldom, however, substituted by CMOS (perhaps even more modern things, I must update my knoledge in this too :). At the AIO convention I had some talks with the reps of digital systems = but I confess however that I am not SO acquainted with digital aides for pipe organs at this time... just beginning to recognize their usefulness.   Some firms have replacement modules or boards; sometimes even updated versions. F.e.: When Yamaha was in business in my country and something happened in one of their organs the tech came, saw, and replaced an entire module (=3D board with electronic components) with another one, taking the damaged module to the Rep-workshop, where it was closely examined, = repaired, if necessary updated and left in stock for the next sick :) organ. A keen idea - no on-site searching for 'fried' components; no time loss = for the client and the tech =3D the cost of the whole affair was affordable...   Yours Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.     ----- Original Message ----- From: F Richard Burt <effarbee@verizon.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 3:11 PM Subject: Repair, Upgrade, or Replacement     > Hello, Nate, John, et al: > > You wrote: > > > > Yes! The current theory of this malfunction is something > > > to do with the multiplex system... > * * * > > In fairness to the manufacturers of solid state systems, > > though, someone's e-mail said that a fifteen-year-old system > > would be outdated. > > Until the "blip at full organ" happened, did the keying and > stops function properly? If so, then, the system is not out > dated, ...simply malfunctioning. It is still functioning as > designed 15 years ago, ...but with a new quirk that needs to > be isolated. > > > ...and I do not know of any Peterson or Solid State Logic > > systems that have yet reached the end of their useful life, > > notwithstanding that I know of some that are thirty years old. > > That is the point. A keying and stop control system is not > outdated just because it is old. I have a Saville organ in my > father's church that is still working quite nicely on the keying > and stop control system that came with it 25 years ago. The > same can be said of many of the solid-state systems of other > manufacturers. > > If you wish to correct a solid-state component, you will need > an electronic technician's mental training and experience to > isolate the malfunctioning component, card, or power supply. > Bite the bullet, call a tech, and get it fixed. It isn't > really broken, just crippled. Corrective action is probably > much less costly than replacement. > > F. Richard Burt > Dorian Organs      
(back) Subject: Re: Real Coffee From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:56:17 EDT   In a message dated 10/21/2003 8:01:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, Gfc234@aol.com writes:   > Its always cheap, nasty, and pre ground, and WEAK. YUCK! What's the = deal > with that???   sounds like mine   One overflow scoop for 12 cups of water....1 sweet and low and creamer...   do you think it is still coffee?   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: RE: "Gegenbewegung" From: "Roger Whitehead" <roger.whitehead@AES.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 21:37:33 -0500   Perhaps: Brouwer,Frans.=20Orgelbewegung=20und=20Orgelgegenbewegung.=20Eine=20Arbeit= =20=FCber=20die=20Urspr=FCnge=20und=20die=20Entwicklung=20der=20d=E4nische= n=20Orgelreform=20bis=20heute.=20Utrecht,=201981   (courtesy=20Google)   -----Original=20Message-----   Subject:=20Re:=20"Gegenbewegung" From:=20<TubaMagna@aol.com> Date:=20Tue,=2021=20Oct=202003=2018:13:29=20EDT   Dear=20Malcolm: =20=20=20=20I=20WISH=20that=20I=20could=20take=20credit=20for=20the=20term= ,=20but=20it=20has=20been=20around=20for=20 some=20time,=20as=20applied=20to=20organbuilding.=20I=20first=20encountere= d=20it=20as=20the=20subtitle=20 of=20a=20book,=20and=20for=20the=20life=20of=20me=20I=20have=20drawn=20a=20= blank=20on=20the=20author.   Seb   ________________________________________________________________________ This=20email=20has=20been=20scanned=20for=20all=20viruses=20by=20the=20Mes= sageLabs=20service.  
(back) Subject: Re: Real Coffee From: "Shirley" <pnst.shirley@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 22:39:52 -0400     My apologies to the owners and to the list in general. When I posted my = coffee post, I thought it was to a different list.   SO off-topic.   Sorry.   --Shirley    
(back) Subject: was Tuning Season, now other tuner related stuff From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2003 23:38:15 -0400   I've always understood lozenges and common pencils left on consoles to be public property. BTW, on the subject of pencils. If you happen to clean = out under your pedal board and the console is at least 50 years old chances = are you'll find at least a dozen pencils among other things. Here's a tip. It seems no one is making "good" pencils anymore and the ones under your = pedal board might be old, indeed very old, and they're worth their weight in = (ahh) lead. I've found almost unused pencils that were close to 80 years old.   I've also found a few partial packs of intact and rather dusty cigarettes = in organ chambers from the '50's. I don't smoke, but the next time someone downtown Toronto asked if I had a cigarette to spare a few years ago I was able to respond -"you know, I just happen to have a few"!   AjM   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Bigaquarium Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 7:23 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Tuning Season   Hi chatters!   This message is to the many organists on the list concerning the up-and-coming Christmas tuning rush. I would just like to remind you that for a more desirable result, your organ tuner will respond to bribes. In many cases you will find it necessary to do so. So, that being said, = please keep a well-stocked tin of candies on the console in preparation of your tuning. You'll be amazed how well it works! (C:     -Nate   "The apprentice"     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: RE: Real Coffee From: "Andrew Mead" <mead@eagle.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:23:48 -0400   Coffee can be "on-topic" as I suspect more than a few organ tuners recall spilling coffee (of any but the thickest variety) brought into organ chambers while tuning and subsequently destroying dozens of in chest = leather pneumatics? AjM   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Shirley Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:40 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Real Coffee     My apologies to the owners and to the list in general. When I posted my coffee post, I thought it was to a different list.   SO off-topic.   Sorry.   --Shirley   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Real Coffee- Real Spills From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2003 00:36:05 -0400   I'm a tea man myself but I do like a nice cuppa Tim Horton's double = double. You Yanks don't know what your missing but Hamilton's own is taking over the world. I've never spilled coffee or tea in an organ chamber as Dad taught me = never to take anything like that any where near a chamber. But I have had to mop up many organ chambers in August while tuning.   Coffee mixed with sugar can be a real nightmare in keyboards however. My worst culprit even has a sign warning him not to sip his coffee at the console. - Little good that does you ROBERT!   By the way NEVER give my sister Janine a cup of coffee. She talks even faster than normal and can keep it up all day and night! - and the next = day. .. .       --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 17-Oct-03