PipeChat Digest #4070 - Sunday, October 26, 2003
 
Re: So Cal fires (X-posted)
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Pipe Voicing & Chiff
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
So Cal fires (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Mixing Styles
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Holy Trinity, Dawley Shropshire, UK.
  by "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Mixed styles?
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
So Cal fires (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: So Cal fires
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: chiff
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: chiff
  by "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net>
So Cal fires
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Girard
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
RE: Girard
  by "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu>
These So Cal fires are awful
  by "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
Re: Mixing Styles
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Mixing Styles
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Mixed styles
  by "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net>
Re: PipeChat Digest #4069 - 10/26/03
  by <Wuxuzusu@aol.com>
So Cal fires
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Mixing Styles
  by "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: So Cal fires (X-posted) From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:24:08 -0600   hang in there bud. gary ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@cox.net> To: "AnglicanMusicLiturgyandControversy" <AnglicanMusicLiturgyandControversy@yahoogroups.com>; <anglican-music@list.stsams.org>; "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org>; "GL Church Musicians" <glchurchmusicians@pipechat.org> Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: So Cal fires (X-posted)     > San Bernardino, to the north and east of us, has now evacuated over > 35,000 people. > > The TV is now saying that they're evacuating parts of San Clemente and > Camp Pendleton on the coast. > > The California Highway Patrol has just issued an order for people to > stay OFF freeways and major surface streets to keep them open for fire > equipment. > > I-15 is now closed. That's the major inland north-south artery from LA > and the Inland Empire to San Diego. > > We're having power outages, so I may not be able to report regularly. > > Bud > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Pipe Voicing & Chiff From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:40:58 -0600   I can soon tell you first hand..........=94Grandpa=94 is (or is nearly) finished revoicing a M=F6ller Geigen Principal for me. It will be sometime before I have the chest for it set up, alas.   And I like a bit of chiff, too!   Dennis Steckley     =93f anyone one has heard the instruments voiced by our own Grandpa Arp Schneider, you will experience chiff that has been carefully planned for and executed in certain specific ranks. To my ear, it is a charming, almost haunting sound when used in the appropriate literature, particularly in a liturgical environment. I believe Grandpa Arp is a master of this voicing style as evidenced particularly by his instruments at Farmer City and Quincy Illinois. Cheers Mike=94      
(back) Subject: So Cal fires (X-posted) From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:46:43 -0800   The San Diego fire has now reached the northern border of Tierrasanta and I-805.   For those of you who don't know San Diego, downtown is divided from the northern and eastern suburbs by Mission Valley and I-8 on the north, and I-805 on the east. Tierrasanta is on the northern rim of Mission Valley, toward the eastern end of the valley. That puts it less than ten miles from us, and it's moving fast.   Tierrasanta is being evacuated to the stadium in the valley.   Evacuation routes to the west (the beaches and the ocean) are still clear for us.   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Mixing Styles From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:53:53 -0600   I have the same problem. Perhaps Colin will correct the problems as he has said. As I look at the ones that work, however, I realize that perhaps my request was not specific enough. With the AIO, we have an organ documentation project to document specifics on important organs. This certainly includes stoplist and scaling, but goes far beyond that in specifying mouth widths, cut ups, windways, toe holes, nicking details, wind pressure, chest details, room information, etc. This is what I was seeking. Some of this is sometimes included in dedication brochures, various magazine articles,etc. If this information has not been developed on these organs, and they are as important as you suggest, I would hope that such a project could be encouraged. Roy Redman   Bob Conway wrote:   > Colin Mitchell wrote as follows, - but none of the links qork for me! > > Bob Conway > > > Hello, > > > > For the benfit of Roy Redman, Nate Smith and others > > who may be interested in web-sites, here are a few > > interesting links; one of which makes mention of the > > English/American infleunces, and which I havn't seen > > before. > > > > http://www.ondar.demon.co.uk/echoes/spark.htm > > > > http://www- > > users.york,ac.uk/~acd114/orgue/lib/letter.htm > > > > http://www.musicalopinion.co./organ/st-mary-blackburn.htm > > > > http://homepage.mac.com/glarehead/ambrosino/lecture-aio2998.html > > > > http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.carter/work99.html > > > > http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~oneskull/3.6.2.htm > > > > > > I will post these and then check that the links work, > > and if not, I will make any corrections necessary and > > try again! > > > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Holy Trinity, Dawley Shropshire, UK. From: "John Foss" <harfo32@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:53:34 +0000 (GMT)   Dear list, This post is a bit like "Small earthquake in Chile. Not many dead", but my eye was caught by an article in the BBC online under the headline "Historic church Organ destroyed in arson attack". It referred to the church of Holy Trinity, Dawley in Shrops which had a 2 manual organ dating back to 1851 by Sherbourne of Bath - not a builder I have previously heard of. Looking it up in NPOR it has the comment "Not an exciting organ". We don't seem to have many UK members on the list, but has anyone ever heard of it? John Foss   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D www.johnfoss.gr http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orgofftop/ Topics of the week : Farewell to an era - Concorde says goodbye 50 years ago Menu of the week : Moussaka   ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger http://mail.messenger.yahoo.co.uk  
(back) Subject: RE: Mixed styles? From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 14:22:52 -0600   I assume Colin is referring to the Schulze at Doncaster Parish Church. There's a good deal of information available on this organ (see, e.g., the piporg-l archive and Simon Fitzgerald's article in a Choir and Organ number a year or so ago).   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Roy Redman Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 2:03 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Mixed styles?   Can you tell us where to find details on both these instruments? Roy Redman   Colin Mitchell wrote:   > Hello, > > The mix of the baroque and the romantic has been done > very successfully here in the UK. > > First by Schulze in the 19th century (perhaps not > intentionally), and latterly, by J W Walker at > Blackburn Cathedral (very intentionally). > > Organs just don't come much better. > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > --- bigaquarium@netzero.net wrote: > > > It's interesting, I used to > > think of ways of mixing both styles (baroque and > > romantic) in one organ but > > realized that it isn't really something that needs > > to be done, nor is it something I truly would want > > to do in the sense of artistry. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: So Cal fires (X-posted) From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 12:34:43 -0800   The fire is moving west, but it's still north of I-8. It's moving toward Clairemont Mesa ... Richard Corson just called ... he's evacuating over here.   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: So Cal fires From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:37:32 -0400   We are praying for your safety, any list members who may be in the areas affected by the fires spreading direction Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: chiff From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:52:45 -0500   On 10/26/03 11:17 AM, "Dick Meckstroth" <support@opensystemsorgans.com> wrote:   > I happen to like a bit of chiff.   My goodness, Dick. I thought I was the only one. I decided I must be perverted and just kept my mouth shut.   Well, OK. With some trepidation, I'll admit to having a taste for some chiff TOO.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: chiff From: "Mike Gettelman" <mike3247@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:12:59 -0500       Alan Freed wrote:   > > My goodness, Dick. I thought I was the only one. I decided I must be > perverted and just kept my mouth shut. > > Well, OK. With some trepidation, I'll admit to having a taste for some > chiff TOO. > > Alan   Hi Alan, My, my, a perversion is it? Well then in my case, Michael Barone is to blame. He presented many organs on Pipedreams with the characteristic = chiff long before I knew what to call it, and why it was there. At the time, I chalked it up to the same genre of sounds as tracker clatter and combination action thunk, both of which I also still enjoy hearing today. = I must really be out there heh? Cheers Mike    
(back) Subject: So Cal fires From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 13:49:51 -0800   San Diego Air Traffic Control at Miramar (near "Fightertown," where parts of "Top Gun" was filmed) has been evacuated.   They handed over control to LAX, but then they announced that all flights scheduled to take OFF from San Diego AND LAX are being held on the ground.   Incoming flights already in the air are being allowed to land for the time being, but departures for San Diego and LAX are being cancelled nationwide.   The local TV station we're watching is near Miramar; they're preparing to evacuate to a downtown hotel.   We've packed essential books, medicines, clothes, and food; we'll pull the computer CPUs at the last minute, if we have to evacuate.   Bud      
(back) Subject: Girard From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:49:24 -0500   Good afternoon all!   In about a week I will have the huge blessing and honor of tuning the Skinner of Girard College... In preparation for this event I was = wondering if any of our list members had experiences or favorite tidbits about the organ they would like to share, OR things they would like me to look for when I'm way way up in the chambers. (C: So, if anyone has a favorite stop or something of note to share, I am certainly all ears!   Is anyone attending tonight's recital at Woolsey? Myself and wife = will be there tonight, I will give a full report!     Have a wonderful evening!   = -Nate   "The Apprentice"      
(back) Subject: RE: Girard From: "Storandt, Peter" <pstorandt@okcu.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:50:01 -0600   Nate:   Who are you going to hear at Woolsey? Tom Murray's recital has been postponed.   Peter   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Nathan Smith Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 3:49 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Girard   Good afternoon all!   In about a week I will have the huge blessing and honor of tuning the Skinner of Girard College... In preparation for this event I was wondering if any of our list members had experiences or favorite tidbits about the organ they would like to share, OR things they would like me to look for when I'm way way up in the chambers. (C: So, if anyone has a favorite stop or something of note to share, I am certainly all ears!   Is anyone attending tonight's recital at Woolsey? Myself and wife will be there tonight, I will give a full report!     Have a wonderful evening!   =20   -Nate   "The Apprentice"     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: These So Cal fires are awful From: "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 15:58:58 -0800 (PST)   I had been instructed not to cross post on this list, so I didn=92t send these messages I sent to other lists I=92m on.   But several of you who know I=92m in Del Rosa area of San Bernardino have written, so I=92ll try to push this through.   (I do feel an active part of these organ lists, appreciate all your postings, you=92re family, and I have learned SO much from you).   You have inspired me to pursue my own pipedreams, so if administrator will forgive, I=92ll post it.   Paul   --- Saturday afternoon ---   Although I am safe (I live four miles away from the major conflagration) our hills are raging fire here in the foothills of San Bernardino, where at least 50 homes have been destroyed, and probably hundreds before morning.   Thousands have been evacuated, It is raining ash everywhere. Looks like Pompeii must have looked.   Our 40-60 MPH Santa Ana winds are blowing everything everywhere, and the smoke is smarting our eyes and making us cough, even indoors.   Several of my friends have been evacuated from their homes with the clothes on their back, we're meeting here in our home for prayer, wondering if they will have homes to go back to.   We're looking at channel 4 NBC news, to see if any of their evacuated homes are on fire on film coverage even now as I send this request for prayer.   The support center at the local SB International Airport is filled and turning people away.   If you know the area here ... as some of you may be Campus Crusaders ... the fire began near the Arrowhead Springs Hotel, on Waterman Canyon Road, and may have wiped out our arrowhead on the mountain (too much smoke to see if it is even there now).   If these tornado-type winds get worse, the fifteen mile firefront may travel north, wiping out Crestline, Lake Gregory on way to Lake Arrowhead. All roads, of course, are closed, so no way to evacuate those mountain communities.   Everything north of the crosstown freeway 30 is shut down from Cal State U to the San Manuel Indian Reservation and thousands evacuated.   PRAYER REQUEST # 2   Got a call yesterday that my daughter was dropping her kids off at pre-school and was struck in the street by a careless driver. She was walking our 3-year old hand-in-hand in the crosswalk and scooped her up in her arms as she fell, or the car would have hit her head.   Although my granddaughter was spared, daughter sustained mostly leg, hip and knee damage, is going to be operated on and replacements of some sort will be made.   My wife flew up (to Portland) to help the family. The four 4 granddaughters had been shared with church folk for the night, but with her help (my daughter won't walk for at least 6 weeks at best unless God supplies otherwise), the girls are back home. I will fly up for a week, but my wife had to quit her job her to stay up there for a couple of months.   I cancelled a few speaking seminars, but I=92m in the midst of planning our BRASS convention, so I must return (there's only so much I can do via emails).   --- ONE MORE REQUEST FOR PIPE CHATTERS ---   I had loaned two organs: 3 manual Wurlitzer electric theatre and 2 manual Baldwin church AGO instrument to folks in that area, and although I had heard they were ruined, was slated to pick them up Tuesday, before leaving for a week Portland. I hoped to put them back together again.   I am trying to polish organ performance skills as I endeavor to put together a theatre pipe unit; need these to practice (I=92ve been using some cheapo MIDI keyboards for scales a couple of hours each day and simple sight reading ... not much else for months), and finally was able to see if those two instruments I had loaned away several years ago could help me to get the feel of a REAL instrument with somewhat real sounds (Casio and Sound Canvas are rather limited).   My fingers are doing some old College keyboard stuff I haven't done for years; as conductor I always relied on others to perform organ for me, but now I'm trying to get back to it myself in my passion to assemble a real pipe organ ... like trying to squeeze toothpaste back into the tube, eh?   I still don=92t know if these instruments were destroyed in the fire, but they are definitely in the mandatory evacuation area, so I have no way to find out, waiting uneasily until the roads open, realizing they probably are gone.   Deja vu all over again ... I have previously lost an organ and a harpsichord in a church fire several years ago ... Real bummer!   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   By the way, one of the homes destroyed by now in all probability had a fantastic Wurlitzer in the home of Dr. Stocker, now deceased, a home pipe unit where we recorded some music for a record album years ago.   In my search for an organ, I had been seeking what had become of that organ. It is listed in Wurlitzer files, but I had not been able to find anything of it lately Our album notes called it:   OPUS 263 - C, Style 210 SP,   But don=92t know how to discipher those codes.   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D   --- Saturday evening ---   Four dear friends have lost everything at this point.   Trying to get as much out before we lose electricity, which they say we may soon. 250 homes confirmed lost, expected to be double that by sunrise. I'll probably spend the nite with my poodle and lhasa in pastor's Fifth wheel RV in Redlands. (Maybe he's just scared because I have tomorrow's PowerPoint sermon notes in on my laptop here with me, heh!)       ---Sunday Morning---   Well, the two fires have met, right below the Cajon Pass entry into the San Bernardino Valley, and are now one fire raging in combined effort.   Homes destroyed represent a rather Beverly-Hills-sort of our area, large homes on view lot locations of San Bernardino, the most elegant homes overlooking the valley, as well as upscale tract homes. (Mine is not one).   Now that the fire on the west is destroying homes as far as La Verne and Claremont (above the Claremont Colleges), we are seeing some of the most elegant homes of Southern California destroyed.   If you've traveled Route 66 from Cajon Pass to LA, or Freeway 10 between Palm Springs and LA, you can imagine that stretch of mountains across the whole north range on fire, that's the picture.   If you have ever landed at ONT airport, your plane would have come over those mountains, having crossed the Mojave desert, looking down on Lake Arrowhead and Big Bear Lake, crossing directly over my home, and swing west to land at Ontario.   When you landed, all of those beautiful mountains spread out ridging the north above the vineyards beyond the airport are all on fire, from San Bernardino to LA counties.   One of them began north of the Fontana Gran Prix racetrack adjacent to the airport, and the other began near the base of the natural formation of a huge Arrowhead on the mountain that points to the Arrowhead Springs Hotel.   Many of my choir members and pastor friends have lost homes.   Lake Arrowhead has some of the most expensive homes on the planet, and a tragedy is that many people there are partial residents, movie people and CEOs who have other homes in other parts of the world, and they are not here to salvage anything.   ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Paul E. Kealy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: Re: Mixing Styles From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:03:59 -0800 (PST)   Hello, I cannot get the links to work either, but that is because I have been invaded by some bloody porn channel which switches me to a different search! I got quite different organs to the ones I wanted.   I have yet to get rid of it, but I did try the alternative, which was to print out the list and then tap in each link seperately.....that worked OK.   Of the addresses sent, I would highly commend the ambrosoni link, which is a real tour-de-force in the form of a lecture. I had absolutely NO IDEA of the English connections with American organ-building beyond T C Lewis and G Donald Harrison, with others such as Carlton Michelle and Vincent Willis vaguely stored in my head somewhere.   Absolutely fascinating!   As for scalings and cut-ups, I don't think we have anything like that in the UK, so I am unable to help.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Bob Conway <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Colin Mitchell wrote as follows, - but none of the > links qork for me! >   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: Re: Mixing Styles From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 16:14:37 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   A specific note for Roy Redman.   The Schulze details are fairly well covered in Stephen Bicknells writings on <piporg-l archives> and also by the Rev.Noel Bonavia-Hunt; the latter giving details of diapason scales.   You should know that Schulze used straight line scaling except for the Mixtures, which were perhaps a couple of notes smaller.   The cut ups are low, with very light winding and, critically, Schulze used no nicking anywhere, and everything is done open-toe....hence the baroque influence taken from the old Thuringian organs with which he was familiar.   Where Schulze parted company with the baroque, was in the sheer scale of his flues....very big indeed, as the German organ moved towards the weighter tones of the romantic period.   You will discover that T C Lewis followed his example, but did things a little differently, and to brilliant effect. G Donald Harrison admired the work of T C Lewis above all others.   I can probably dig out the details of Schulze scaling for anyone who wants them. I have the books, but they are fairly well known anyway.   One things I can tell you. Schulze always said, "I can give dem my scales, but I cannot give dem diss" as he pointed to his ear.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK               --- Roy Redman <rredman@imagin.net> wrote: > I have the same problem. Perhaps Colin will correct > the problems as he > has said. > As I look at the ones that work, however, I realize > that perhaps my > request was not specific enough. With the AIO, we > have an organ > documentation project to document specifics on > important organs. This > certainly includes stoplist and scaling, but goes > far beyond that in > specifying mouth widths, cut ups, windways, toe > holes, nicking details, > wind pressure, chest details, room information, etc. > This > is what I was seeking.   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: Mixed styles From: "Roy Redman" <rredman@imagin.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 18:51:34 -0600   Yes I was there to here Jonathan Ambrosino's lecture, which was brilliant as usual! I was merely hoping you could point to some UK sources of information, particularly on the Blackburn Cathedral, which were not known to us here in the US. Thanks Roy Redman      
(back) Subject: Re: PipeChat Digest #4069 - 10/26/03 From: <Wuxuzusu@aol.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 20:06:06 EST   In a message dated 10/26/2003 2:25:51 PM Eastern Standard Time, pipechat@pipechat.org writes:   > > Subject: FWD: Request: Hector Olivera "Intermission" CD > From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> > Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:14:35 -0600 > > We received the following at the Administration account which I am > forwarding to the list. Please respond to the address below as this > person is not on the list. > > David > > **************************FORWARD = MESSAGE********************************* > WANTED: CD (playable condition) of Hector Olivera > at the Atlanta Fox, entitled "Intermission" > > EMAIL: mssz@cise.ufl.edu (Mark Schmalz) >      
(back) Subject: So Cal fires From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:24:04 -0800   San Diego is now basically encircled on the north, south, and east with fires; the only evacuation route still open is to the west ... the ocean and the beaches.   The freeways are closed, except for emergency vehicles.   San Diego is now the biggest fire in CA, and resources are being diverted here, but CNN had virtually nothing about it the last time I looked.   They're announcing school closings now; SDG&E just called to warn us of possible outages because we have a nebulizer.   The mayor has just asked that ALL businesses remain CLOSED tomorrow; he has also asked the NFL to move the Chargers/Dolphins football game (scheduled for tomorrow night night) to another city, as the stadium is a major evacuation staging area.   We're not in any immediate danger; we're close to downtown.   Bud      
(back) Subject: Re: Mixing Styles From: "David Scribner" <david@blackiris.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:21:01 -0600   OK - I'll do some corrections for some of the links <G>   > > http://www.ondar.demon.co.uk/echoes/spark.htm > > www-users.york,ac.uk/~acd114/orgue/lib/letter.htm   Try http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~acd114/orgue/lib/letter.htm   >www.musicalopinion.co./organ/st-mary-blackburn.htm   Try http://www.musicalopinion.com/organ/st-mary-blackburn.htm instead   > >homepage.mac.com/glarehead/ambrosino/lecture-aio2998.html   try http://homepage.mac.com/glarehead/ambrosino/frameset2.html - click on "LECTURES AND PAPERS" and then the view link for 1998 National Convention under the AIO heading.   > >http://freespace.virgin.net/andrew.carter/work99.html   This works fine for me   > >http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~oneskull/3.6.2.htm   This works fine for me   David