PipeChat Digest #4075 - Tuesday, October 28, 2003
 
Re: Filing music
  by "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk>
Kimball Oboe
  by "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net>
Re: Filing music
  by "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca>
Fwd: Australian seeks grand processional
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Filing music
  by "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net>
Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Felix Hell Concerts
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
pitch recognition question
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: pitch recognition question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: pitch recognition question
  by "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com>
The Toaster Debate
  by "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu>
Re: pitch recognition question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Kimball Oboe
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury
  by <geriskip@juno.com>
Re: pitch recognition question
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: pitch recognition question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: pitch recognition question
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury
  by "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com>
So Cal fires (X-posted)
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Filing music From: "Bruce Miles" <bruce@gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:56:48 -0000   Greetings Tom and all,   Why not Microsoft Works database ??. (That's how I found Power House !) It comes free with most computers (at least in UK). I have a music database = of about 8000 entries (mostly popular items) and it's perfectly adequate - = and very easy to use - training is definitely not required. Set up your own categories, do searches, reports, it's all there. The most important piece of data for each item is 'where is it' - physically I mean. So it is important that your music storage is sensible - whether by serial number, shelf number or whatever. If they're all in heaps on the floor a database won't help you. ! :-)   If you need any help, drop me a line.   Cheers,   Bruce Miles   website - http://www.gbmuk.fsnet.co.uk/index.html   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna R. Hollis" <donna@dc.ipmail.att.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2003 3:26 AM Subject: Re: Filing music     I have maintained a choral library of approximately 600 titles for over 8 years using Microsoft Access. You can set up the fields you want to track, create subsets by whatever category you wish (creating queries), create reports, as well as export the data to Excel or Word. But I would = recommend some training in using MS Access before beginning if you are unfamiliar = with the program (Dummies for Access is great).   ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hoehn To: PipeChat Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 8:38 PM Subject: Re: Filing music     Glenda et al, I seem to remember seeing a music database program on the Rodgers User Group website -- I believe Noel Jones who is moderator for that list is a = member of this one as well -- how about it Noel? Is it still there? Tom Hoehn, Organist http://theatreorgans.com/tomhoehn Roaring Twenties Pizza and Pipes (substitute)(4/42 Wurlitzer) First United Methodist Church, Clearwater, FL (4/98 = Ruffati/Wicks/Rodgers) CFTOS/Manasota/OATOS/HiloBay/CIC-ATOS/VotS-ATOS/Dairyland-ATOS/AGO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: RE: Filing music     > May I suggest, in the absence of a particular program that appeals to > you, that you create your own Excel document/system? Then you may > re-sort and organize according to composer, season, title, other = fields > (you create your own as you are inputting), whatever strikes your = fancy. > > I started my own after Bill Betts was kind enough a few years ago to > show me his system. I've never finished - got through all the Bachs = and > the Handels and to the Ms and had to quit. > > Glenda Sutton > gksjd85@direcway.com > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org          
(back) Subject: Kimball Oboe From: "Nathan Smith" <erzahler@sbcglobal.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 07:22:24 -0500   Good morning chatters!   Last week I tuned a Kimball at St. Peter's Episcopal in Cambridge, MA, and it had the most wonderful Oboe stop in it. First of all, it's worth noting that the stop was totally stable. Beyond that, it's construction = had the typical flared bell, half-capped + flapped at the top, with a small = hole bored in the side of the bell under each capped side. The tone from the stop was wonderful - a bit darker than a scrolled oboe, like a mysterious solo orchestral oboe. In my view very worthy of copying for future use, I can't wait to learn how to measure pipes!   While we're at it, the Austin I tuned yesterday had a 4' Oboe in the = swell to go with the 8' trumpet. Why would that be?     Off to Philly!   -Nate   "The rusty tuning slide apprentice"      
(back) Subject: Re: Filing music From: "Andrew Barss" <andrew.barss@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:30:29 -0400   Hello All,   These are all valid suggestions and, just to add to the mix, I'll throw in my personal favourite ... FileMaker Pro!   FileMaker has fabulous power vs ease of use. I built a "quick-hit," "six-months-only" project tracking/billing system for my office seven years ago that still works flawlessly (new system is "in development"). That system has grown to include eight related databases encompassing somewhere around 100,000 records. At the same time, I can build a quick database for a phone list virtually as fast as in Excel or a word-processing product -- and still have the power of a full-service database at my fingertips.   The other key advantages for me are that it is fully cross-platform (Windows, Macintosh) -- which is important since I live in a dual-platform shop; and I can share data either via a web interface or multiple FileMaker users literally with the click of an option setting! That's likely less important for a music database although, if your computer is online (e.g., DSL), it is possible to link into your own database from anywhere on the web -- with full security in place.   Regards, Andrew Barss Halifax, Nova Scotia   > Greetings Tom and all, > > Why not Microsoft Works database ??... > Bruce Miles > >     > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna R. Hollis" <donna@dc.ipmail.att.net> > I have maintained a choral library of approximately 600 titles for > over 8 > years using Microsoft Access...     > Glenda et al, > I seem to remember seeing a music database program on the Rodgers > User > Group website... > Tom Hoehn, Organist >     > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> > May I suggest, in the absence of a particular program that appeals to > you, > that you create your own Excel document/system?    
(back) Subject: Fwd: Australian seeks grand processional From: "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:15:46 -0600   This was sent to the Administration account asking that it be posted here. If you have suggestions please reply to the address listed below. You might also address your reply to the list at the same time as there may be people on list interested in the replies.   David     >Dear Colleagues, > >I am looking for a grand processional for SATB (500 or so men and boys) + >orchestra or organ for use at a major international festival. > >The text should be uplifting, though not necessarily specifically >religious. >Ideally the piece should be of variable duration (to accommodate use in >different sized buildings). > >Any suggestions? > >Noel Ancell >-- >Noel Ancell >Melbourne, Australia >nancell@netspace.net.au     -- **************************************** David Scribner Owner / Co-Administrator PipeChat   http://www.pipechat.org mailto:admin@pipechat.org  
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:53:41 -0500   On 10/27/03 10:25 PM, "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com> wrote:   > Alan, do you have Felix's schedule for the rest of this year and 2004? W= e are > going to be doing some traveling and would like to attend some of his > recitals. Lee >=20   Lee, I=B9m sorry that I do not. I=B9ll be talking to him probably later this week, and I=B9ll see what I can find out about the schedule. There=B9s a source, =B3HELL-CONCERTS=B2 or something like that, which is the proper place t= o go. Perhaps someone can supply that?   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Filing music From: "Jeff White" <reedstop@charter.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:18:23 -0600   Access is what I used at my previous congregation. They had already set = up an index card file, one alphabetized by composer, another by title. I = think this is the best way to go, because then you're not worrying about what season to look in, and sometimes things can cross seasons, like "Lift Up Your Heads" and a few other ones that are based on psalms. In fact, I = just recently mixed the Christmas and Easter music back into the main files instead of keeping them separate.   I'm currently in the process of setting up a similar file for my current position, but right now all of the music are in music envelopes in filing cabinets. This is something I want to change, because filing boxes on shelves take up less space than bulky filing cabinets.   What I like about Access (or any database) is that you can set up = relational tables, so you can index other things other than just title and composer....you can add instrumental tables and all sorts of things. Of course, I have a database background, which helps in my situation.   When I was at Holy Cross, they had their filing boxes numbered, but there was no rhyme or reason to them because of the card file. Each card had = the box number where the anthem was located, so it was no problem. As we = bought new music, we'd simply fit it into a box where there was room. If you = have a computerized list, no matter what you use, and just file the boxes by number, there's no need to keep any kind of system with the files or = boxes. I just simply would pull up the title I want, see that it's in Box #X, and go to that box to get it. No need to shift around boxes or files as I add new anthems to the library. They also would stamp the number of each box = on the anthem that resides within, making putting it away a SNAP!   NEW QUESTION: for those of you using filing boxes, what size seems to = work best? I could buy one for each, maybe using a 1" box, but at Holy Cross, they would buy the 5" boxes and just put three to five anthems in each. = I'm trying to keep costs lower, and I think the 5" box would be a better = value. Thoughts?   Jeff -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Donna R. Hollis Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:26 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Filing music     I have maintained a choral library of approximately 600 titles for over = 8 years using Microsoft Access. You can set up the fields you want to track, create subsets by whatever category you wish (creating queries), create reports, as well as export the data to Excel or Word. But I would = recommend some training in using MS Access before beginning if you are unfamiliar = with the program (Dummies for Access is great).    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:10:45 EST   Dear lee and Alan:   Here is the web page for Felix Hell: Hell-Concerts@t-online.de   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell Concerts From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:18:51 EST   Dear Alan and Lee:   Sorry the last one was for E-mail: http://www.felix-hell.com This one should have all the concert info.   Ron    
(back) Subject: pitch recognition question From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 10:42:56 -0500   an unusual thing happened this morning.   my partner, mark, who does not read music or play an instrument, will = sometimes peck out melodies on my piano. he does not attempt any harmony, = and frequently misses notes. he does not readily know how to find the = note he's looking for. for instance, if he's playing "happy birthday" in = F Major, he'll miss the octave jump upward, and doesn't know how to find = right right note, so he just hunts for it.   this morning, while waiting for breakfast to finish cooking, he sat down = at the piano & began playing the melody to "love is a many = splendored-thing" (i know -- a bizarre choice at 5:30a.m.). now i was = with him all last evening and night, and this morning. we did not watch = that movie last night, nor did we hear it played at any time. this = morning there was no music playing on the radio, tv, stereo, etc., so he = had no pitch reference. while he was still playing it, i put a videotape = of the movie in the vcr upstairs and was amazed to find it in the same key = he was playing.   i would chalk it up to coincidence, but i realized this morning that = whenever he picks out a melody, he almost always does so in the correct = key, and always without any pitch reference.   anyone have an explanation?   scot (and mark) in tacoma  
(back) Subject: Re: pitch recognition question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:10:27 -0500   On 10/28/03 10:42 AM, "BlueeyedBear@aol.com" <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> wrote:   > an unusual thing happened this morning. > No offense, but you're familiar with "idiots savants"?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: pitch recognition question From: "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 08:18:28 -0800 (PST)   It makes sense to me. He probably has a natural innate great sense of PITCH.   INTERVAL seems to be his problem, and that is more of an acquired awareness.   Part of my choral warmup exercises always includes interval awareness. I use solfeges, but also relate it to the familiar, as well, so when we look for, say a fourth, I'll remind them it's "Here COMES the bride," or "a -MAY- zing Grace," etc.   Paul   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: The Toaster Debate From: "Del Case" <dcase@puc.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 09:36:38 -0700   I hope that all of you following the "Great Toaster Debate" will have a chance to see today's "Garfield" comic strip in your local newspaper.   Del W. Case Pacific Union College  
(back) Subject: Re: pitch recognition question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:35:30 -0500   On 10/28/03 11:18 AM, "Kealypaul" <kealypaul@yahoo.com> wrote:   > when we look for, say a > fourth, I'll remind them it's "Here COMES the bride," > or "a -MAY- zing Grace," etc.   Oh! I thought a fourth was "How Much Is that Doggie in the Window?"!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Kimball Oboe From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:53:30 EST   Hi Nate:   A 4' Oboe is not of much use, is a poor substitute for a clarion, and would be much better suited to the liturature with a 12 offset chest and pipes and placed at 8' on the manuals. This organ must have been built during the crazy 50's to 70's. There were a lot of Rohr Shalmei's placed at 4' for the same useless purpose. When I look back at this particular era, I really have to scratch my poor old head, and say, "what the heck were they thinking?"   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury From: <geriskip@juno.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:44:08 -0500   Greetings. Felix is scheduled to appear in Kalamazoo, Michigan in November.   Geri  
(back) Subject: Re: pitch recognition question From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 12:58:36 -0500   on 10/28/03 11:18 AM, Kealypaul at kealypaul@yahoo.com wrote:   > It makes sense to me. He probably has a natural innate > great sense of PITCH. >=20 > INTERVAL seems to be his problem, and that is more of > an acquired awareness. >=20 > Part of my choral warmup exercises always includes > interval awareness. I use solfeges, but also relate it > to the familiar, as well, so when we look for, say a > fourth, I'll remind them it's "Here COMES the bride," > or "a -MAY- zing Grace," etc. >=20 > Paul   Since it's come up, I thought, in case anyone was interested, I'd share thi= s extensive list I found somewhere of allegedly familiar songs illustrating all possible intervals. I'm not sure it's totally accurate, though: doesn't "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" begin with a major, not a minor, second? Anyway, I've had fun exploring it with my choir.   Ascending: minor second Jaws What=B9s New? Nice Work if you can get it San Francisco (Left my heart) I Remember You=20 I=B9m Getting Sentimental over You Bye Bye Black Bird Stormy Weather   major second Happy Birthday Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer Silent Night There Will Never be Another You Tennessee Waltz My Funny Valentine Body and Soul They Say, Ruby Frere Jacques Doe, a Deer (Sound of Music)   minor third Work Song=20 Confirmation Georgia on my Mind A Foggy Day Moontrane The Impossible Dream Somewhere my Love O Canada Oh Where, Oh Where has my Little dog Gone? Brahm=B9s Lullaby Greensleeves So Long, Farewell (Sound of Music)   major third Oh When the Saints I Can=B9t Get Started Kum Ba Yah=20 While Shepherds Watched Sweet Hour of Prayer Well I Come From Alabama From the Halls of Montezuma {Big Ben Sounding the Hour?}   perfect fourth Here Comes the Bride Hark the Herald Angels Sing Oh Christmas Tree Doxy =8CRound Midnight Maiden Voyage We Wish You a Merry Christmas All the Things Ornithology Song for my Father Love me Tender Auld Lang Syne Aura Lee The British Grenadiers Amazing Grace Someday my Prince Will Come Day is Done (Taps)   augmented fourth / diminished fifth Maria (West Side Story) The Simpsons=20   perfect fifth Twinkle, Twinkle Theme from 2001 Whisper Not (Benny Golson) Theme From Peanuts Bags Groove Lavender=B9s Blue Hey There Georgy Girl   augmented fifth / diminished sixth Love Story (third and fourth notes) The Entertainer Morning of the Carnival Go Down Moses   major sixth My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean Theme from =B3The Sting=B2 NBC Dashing Through the Snow The Entertainer (third and fourth notes)   minor seventh There=B9s a Place for Us (West Side Story) Old Star Trek Theme Have You Driven a Ford? Somewhere (West Side Story) I=B9ll Close My Eyes   major seventh Cast Your Fate to the Wind Ceora Theme from Fantasy Island Superman Bali Hai (South Pacific)   perfect eighth Somewhere Over the Rainbow A Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting) Let it Snow! McDonald=B9s Commercial (?) Del Sasser=20 Blue Bossa   Descending: minor second O Little Town of Bethlehem Joy to the World The Theme (M. Davis) Sophisticated Lady Stella by Starlight The Lady is a Tramp Solar (M. Davis) Shall We Dance (The King and I) Fur Elise=20 Hernando=B9s Hideaway   major second Mary had a Little Lamb Deck the Halls Away in a Manger Yesterday (Beatles) On the Sunny Side of the Street Freddie Freeloader Three Blind Mice Whistle While You Work Mary Had a Little Lamb M.A.S.H. Blue Moon Satin Doll Tune Up My Girl The First Noel   minor third Frosty the Snowman What is This Thing Called Love? 500 Miles High (C. Corea) Misty When Irish Eyes are Smiling Hey Jude Peter Gunn You=B9re a Grand Old Flag This Old Man Jesus Loves Me Star Spangled Banner   major third Beethoven=B9s Fifth Swing Low Sweet Chariot Good Night Ladies Summertime Giant Steps Come Rain or Come Shine Bessie=B9s Blues   perfect fourth Shave and a Haircut Oh Come All Ye Faithful Valse Hot (Not Intro!) Yardbird Suite Softly, as in a Morning Sunrise I Didn=B9t Know What Time it Was Almighty Fortress is Our God Baseball Chant Bizet=B9s =B3L=B9Arsienne=B2 Make New Friends Bizet=B9s Farandole=20 Born Free I=B9ve Been Working on the Railroad   augmented fourth / diminished fifth Blue Seven (Sonny Rollins) European Siren   perfect fifth Feelings 7 Steps to Heaven (M. Davis) Have You Met Miss Jones? The Way You Look Tonight Mozart=B9s Minuet in G Flintstones Bring a Torch Jeannette Isabella   augmented fifth / minor sixth Nobody Knows the Trouble I=B9ve Seen Love Story Theme Please Don=B9t Talk About me When I=B9m Gone You=B9re Everything (C. Corea) =20 major 6 You=B9re a Weaver of Dreams Nobody Knows the Troubles I=B9ve Seen O-ver There Gonna Lay Down My Sword and Shield   minor seventh Watermelon Man (H. Hancock) Theme from American in Paris Little Red=B9s Fantasy (Woody Shaw)     major seventh I Love You (?) =B3Hee Haw=B2 From the Grand Canyon Suite   perfect eighth There=B9s No Business Like Show Business Willow Weep for Me I Love You (The Other One)     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu          
(back) Subject: Re: pitch recognition question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:13:09 -0500   On 10/28/03 12:58 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > doesn't "I Left My Heart in San Francisco" begin with a major, not a = minor, > second?   Depends on who's singing it. According to the printed notes, I'd say = "Yes."   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: pitch recognition question From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 13:23:29 -0500   On 10/28/03 12:58 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > Since it's come up, I thought, in case anyone was interested, I'd share = this > extensive list I found somewhere of allegedly familiar songs = illustrating > all possible intervals.   NEAT list! And I'm glad the list is (indeed) "extensive"--for two-thirds = of the list I've never HEARD of at ALL. But there were enough that I DO, so that's fine.   I WAS looking for an ascending ninth; I guess just use an octave and a second.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Felix Hell Wins the Battle of Queensbury From: "mack02445" <mack02445@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 14:03:54 -0500   Just go to Felix's web site its ALL posted there www.felix-hell.com   Alan Freed wrote:   > On 10/27/03 10:25 PM, "leora holcomb" <leh637@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Alan, do you have Felix's schedule for the rest of this year and > 2004? We are going to be doing some traveling and would like to > attend some of his recitals. Lee > > > Lee, I'm sorry that I do not. I'll be talking to him probably later > this week, and I'll see what I can find out about the schedule. > There's a source, "HELL-CONCERTS" or something like that, which is > the proper place to go. Perhaps someone can supply that? > > Alan      
(back) Subject: So Cal fires (X-posted) From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2003 11:36:12 -0800   We're safe, mostly because we're not near a canyon, and we're close to downtown. Canyons act as funnels for the fire.   Snail mail delivery is very slow, on account of all the smoke ... the mailmen can't stay out for very long. They had a disaster plan for earthquakes, but not for fires.   My friend Richard came over and stayed with us Sunday and Monday ... the mobile home park where he lives is on a canyon with lots of eucalyptus trees, and the fire was moving west across the north rim of a canyon that connects to his.   He went home last night ... I haven't had the news on this morning, but since he didn't come back or call, I presume the fire isn't advancing that direction.   Schools are still closed on account of the air quality; the middle schools ARE open for emergency day-care for parents who HAVE to go to work. All non-critical government and miliary personnel have been told to stay home another day.   They're still asking people to stay off the streets and especially the freeways, to keep them clear for fire crews.   Troop transport ships in the harbor are taking military families who were displaced ... San Diego has 85,000 military, counting dependents and civilian employees; that DOESN'T count the carriers based here, but I don't know if either of them is in port right now.   At one point they had 5000 evacuees in the football stadium in Mission Valley; the NFL moved their scheduled game to Arizona because of that, and the air quality.   Burgie just came in ... he's had the TV on ... he said all the fires are still burning out of control ... they don't expect to have them CONTAINED until Nov. 5th at the earliest, and that's if the Santa Ana winds off the desert DON'T kick up again, and the forecast last night said they're supposed to.   Right now the wind is from the west, off the ocean ... that's good ... the temperature is down, and the humidity is up. But if that reverses and we get the hot, dry Santa Anas from the east off the desert, all bets are off.   The wind is driving the fires east, away from San Diego and toward the mountains ... that's extremely rugged terrain, with lots of expensive homes on isolated cul de sacs that are hard to get to.   Californians will build ANYWHERE to get a view (grin).   They've just announced additional mandatory evacuations in East County, including one particularly distressing one: the massive historic Hale telescope on Palomar Mountain is now in harm's way.   That used to be one of my favorite day-trips when I had out-of-town visitors ... so much history has been made and observed there, and the mountain really IS almost like another planet, it's so QUIET.   Its significance has decreased in recent years due to increased street-light pollution in the county, and the launching of the Hubbell telescope and the space station, but it was a monumental achievement in its day.   The County Coroner announced this morning that the death toll is likely to climb sharply as they're able to get into the burned areas ... large numbers of missing-persons reports have been coming in.   The San Diego Cedar Fire is now a FORTY-FIVE-MILE-LONG fire line, burning SIX THOUSAND ACRES per HOUR.   That's about all I know ...       Bud