PipeChat Digest #4079 - Thursday, October 30, 2003
 
Re: Gay Organist Fired
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Re: Gay Organist Fired Link
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
Hymn Festival - Mount Vernon, Ohio - Sunday, November 2
  by "George Greene" <maltose_falcon@yahoo.com>
Re: the fires (X-posted)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Gay Organist Fired
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
4' Schalmei
  by "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net>
Seating of the Mothers
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Gay Organist Fired
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Gay Organist Fired Link
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Gay Organist Fired
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Gay Organist Fired
  by <ScottFop@aol.com>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by <MH96@aol.com>
Re: Gay Organist Fired Link
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: 4' Schalmei
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com>
Re: 4' Schalmei
  by "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu>
Re: 4' Schalmei
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: 4' Schalmei
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Home pipe organ
  by "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com>
Wed Noon Recital: Madison, WI
  by "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com>
Re: Seating of the Mothers
  by "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net>
Re: Gay Organist Fired
  by "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:50:12 EST   Hey, Pete.   I hope you're well and enjoying school and church and swimming!   and . . . you MUST get to Miami to hear the new organ at Church of the Epiphany. It's absolutely more than wonderful Next time you're in South = Florida, G O !!!!!!!!!!   Since some of us don't read the Advocate, is the article availabe online = or ?   Thanks.   Darryl    
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired Link From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 06:52:02 EST   Whoops! I guess I should have read farther down my list of mail! :)    
(back) Subject: Hymn Festival - Mount Vernon, Ohio - Sunday, November 2 From: "George Greene" <maltose_falcon@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 05:56:47 -0800 (PST)   This is from the Mount Vernon Nazarene University website:   On Sunday, Nov. 2, the Music Department of Mount Vernon Nazarene University will host a Hymn Festival at 3 p.m. in the R.R. Hodges Chapel/Auditorium.   The purpose of the event is to give community members an opportunity to sing many of the hymns of the Christian church accompanied by the MVNU Schantz organ.   Organists for the event will be Janet Linker, professor of organ at Capital University and MVNU, and Lucas Weiss, a church music major at MVNU and organist for the First Presbyterian Church of Mount Vernon. Also featured in the program will be the MVNU Brass Ensemble under the direction of David Eaton. There is no charge for the event, but a freewill offering will be taken to cover expenses and to provide support for student music scholarships. For more information on this event, please contact (740) 392-6868, ext. 3000.       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: Re: the fires (X-posted) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 10:28:21 -0500   On 10/30/03 2:58 AM, "Noel Stoutenburg" <mjolnir@ticnet.com> wrote:   >> What on EARTH can one say? >> > To which I would suggest, > > "I lift up my eyes to the hills..." > I think that's unbeatable. That guy could WRITE!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 07:57:14 -0800   http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/902/902_ago.asp   Cheers,   Bud   Mark Turnbull wrote:   > Hello there. > Could you send an email copy of the article please? > Mark.turnbull@bbc.co.uk > thanks > > -----Original Message----- > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of > Oboe32@aol.com > Sent: 30 October 2003 02:49 > To: pipechat@pipechat.org > Subject: Gay Organist Fired > > > Hey All, > > This issue of organists and musicians being fired due to > sexual > orientation is outrageous and effects us all in our musicianship and > workings. > I'd encourage all of you to read the article submitted in the Advocate. > As a > young organist, I hope that issues such as these are changing. This is a > > deffinite issue that is too often skirted or just hushed. Please take > some time to > read up and express some of your thoughts (gently)! > > Best, > > Peter Isherwood > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: 4' Schalmei From: "terry hicks" <Terrick@webtv.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:31:56 -0600 (CST)   Here's another case of new-Baroque invention. If you study pedal specs for Baroque organs, there usually is not a 4' reed, but more often a 2' reed.   This also harkens to the notion that cantus firmus lines need to stick out. A Dutch organ builder once told me that the Europeans who have grown up with many of the old tunes take delight in "searching" for the cantus firmus instead of being hit over the head by the sound selected. His statement made a lot of sense to me. First of all, the pedal needs to be in balance/relationship with the manual sounds. Often a 4' or 8' flue stop works better than a reed...the flue sound is more subtle and makes sense when a composition has several measures of rest between fragments of the cantus firmus. When a cantus firmus is played straight through, or if there is more complex manual movement, a reed works ok. Of course, the French Classical school demands 8' reed sound in the pedal, and it irritates the hell out of me when builders ignore this and skip to a 4' reed.    
(back) Subject: Seating of the Mothers From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:35:34 -0600   Hello,   Someone contacted me asking for my advice on something that can be played/sung at a Lutheran wedding for the seating of the mothers.   Ideas?   Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"      
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:48:14 -0500   It's a sign of the times. They are a changin'   All over there is a major swing to the right. Here in Canada we've had a = lot of conservative change. The local Anglican Diocese has fired a priest for performing a gay marrige and has banned all such unions from being = performed in church. More than one organist has left their post because of refusals = to marry gay couples. The Diocese in British Columbia has now lost 19+ = churches who have rebelled against their bishop for allowing gay marriges. I know = of 4 or 5 more ministers who have been recently dumped by their congregations for promoting the "Happy Clappys". One church I know has lost 2 organists due to these problems and has had 1 minister officially defrocked for sexual misconduct. (he was found to be gropping every women he could corner in church at every opportunity) the replacement is now being told to shape up or ship out due to her overly liberal views and sermons. I'm told the elders had a very nasty meeting last week with her and the language was rather unchristian!   The United Church of Canada has been bickering about Gay ministers and liberalism for years and many churches have pulled out of the union.   The Catholics/United/Anglicans have been in hot water over the problems = with child molesters in church for decades now and are facing Billions $$$$$$$$$$$$$ in law suits (you thought Boston was bad!). Most churches = are now putting clear glass windows in every door so church people canot be hidden from view at any time.   The biggest problem for most churches is that people are voting with their wallets and feet. Attendence is way down in most churches - except for those which are ultra = - conservative such as the REFORMED.   As for the organs? Well at least the Catholics are going back to big = choirs and organ music. I've even got a few using the Latin Mass!   That's not news folks but that is the new reality.   Nelson   Yes the times are a changin'     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27-Oct-03    
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:49:25 -0500   The Spike Jones version of "I Went To Your Wedding"? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 1:35 PM Subject: Seating of the Mothers     > Hello, > > Someone contacted me asking for my advice on something that can be > played/sung at a Lutheran wedding for the seating of the mothers. > > Ideas? > > Alicia Zeilenga > Sub-Dean AGO@UI > "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis" > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.532 / Virus Database: 326 - Release Date: 27-Oct-03  
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 13:49:46 -0500   On 10/30/03 1:35 PM, "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> = wrote:   > Someone contacted me asking for my advice on something that can be > played/sung at a Lutheran wedding for the seating of the mothers. > And the groom's father, I suppose (if he's there). And, for that matter, the BRIDE's father, unless they're doing that silliness of having him walk his daughter up the aisle and "give her away" like so much chattel.   Well, you're not going to like my advice anyway. But here it is: The seating of these folks is not a big deal, and does not require some = special music. Let the ushers simply seat them about a minute or two (or three?--who cares?) before the Procession is to begin.   In liturgically-deprived (Lutheran) parishes, people have no IDEA what to do, and yet they THIRST for some "propriety" or "specialness" about the least of things. This is an example of that. (I'm sure it happens in non-Lutheran worship as well, but I'll save my snarky remarks--this time--for my own camp.) Another example is that "Unity Candle" thing. = And (on Sunday morning) having the ushers come up front to "get" the offering plates, which they might just as well have obtained half an hour before service time. Meaningless pomPOSity!   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired Link From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:56:22 -0600   I hope no one labels this as discrimination too quickly. I would most likely be dismissed if I were to move in with a guy without marrying him first. In my diocese that is just policy, although whether it is enforced or not is another story. I haven't seen anything happen.   Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: Oboe32@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 21:50:13 EST Subject: Gay Organist Fired Link   > Sorry gang, forgot to include the link... tis been a long day teaching > and > playing! > > http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/902/902_ago.asp > > -Pete > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >      
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:00:42 -0500   On 10/30/03 1:48 PM, "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> wrote:   > As for the organs? Well at least the Catholics are going back to big = choirs > and organ music. I've even got a few using the Latin Mass! > Nelson. Very interesting commentary. At least some music is "picking = up."   When you mentioned the "Reformed", is that what we used to call "Dutch Reformed" or "German Reformed" or . . . (I'm not familiar with the = Canadian terminology beyond the big three or four.)   We've got it good as Lutherans in Manhattan. Seems like all the parishes (at least the "main" ones) are MUCH "higher" than their counterparts in Chicago, Minneapolis, St. Louis, and other such "Lutheran" centers. They are also VERY open on sex issues, and yet QUITE "by the book" ("confessional") in terms of theology. I don't know how to DESCRIBE that, but I sure LIKE it!   Alan see www.stlukesnyc.org    
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:08:20 -0500   o > In liturgically-deprived (Lutheran) parishes, people have no IDEA what = to > do, and yet they THIRST for some "propriety" or "specialness" about the > least of things. This is an example of that. (I'm sure it happens in > non-Lutheran worship as well, but I'll save my snarky remarks--this > time--for my own camp.) Another example is that "Unity Candle" thing. = And > (on Sunday morning) having the ushers come up front to "get" the = offering > plates, which they might just as well have obtained half an hour before > service time. Meaningless pomPOSity! > > Alan   Absolutely, on both counts! Where did this druidic Unity Candle ritual = come from, anyway? I wonder at what date it began to creep into the wedding ceremony.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu      
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired From: <ScottFop@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:09:13 EST   In a message dated 10/30/03 1:02:31 PM Central Standard Time, acfreed0904@earthlink.net writes:   > On 10/30/03 1:48 PM, "Nelson Denton" <ndenton@cogeco.ca> wrote: > > >As for the organs? Well at least the Catholics are going back to big = choirs > >and organ music. I've even got a few using the Latin Mass!   Thank GOD! It's about time! I can tell you this is definitely the case = in my parish, as well as all of my parishes that I have served. And it will certainly continue.   Did I mention the delight I felt when I threw out 600+ Glory and Praise (hardbound) hymnals? It was WONDERFUL! And to think- this poor church = had THAT as THE hymnal for many years. For shame!   And, regarding the "organs" part of the above posting: did I mention we = are currently looking at builders for our new pipe organ? Or the cassocks and surplices we are ordering for our Boy's Schola (who sing mostly Latin and = chant)? Or the Parish Choir that is growing literally by the week in numbers and quality of repertoire? No Glory and Praise or Celebration Series here, = folks. (At least not anymore!) Onward and upward...   Scott, Memphis   Scott F. Foppiano Cantantibus organis Caecilia Domino decantabat.    
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: <MH96@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:13:07 EST   HI! YOU CAN PLAY OR SING ANYTHING THAT IS TYPICALLY PERFORMED AT WEDDINGS = DURING THE SEATING OF THE MOTHERS. THE BRIDE AT ONE OF MY RECENT WEDDINGS = REQUESTED BACH "JESU, JOY OF MAN'S DESIRING" . I'VE ALSO PLAYED PACHELBEL "CANON IN = D". IF YOU TYPE IN WEDDING ORGAN MUSIC OR WEDDING MUSIC IN YOUR BROWSER YOU = WILL HAVE A LONG LIST OF MANY SITES WITH SUGGESTED MUSIC. I OCCASIONALLY PLAY = THE HYMN OR HYMN ARRANGEMENT OF "O PERFECT LOVE" DURING THE LIGHTING OF THE = UNITY CANDLE. WE ALSO TYPICALLY HAVE A BRIDESMAIDS' PROCESSINAL PIECE FOLLOWED = BY A BRIDE'S PROCESSIONAL PIECE. MICHAEL    
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired Link From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:22:54 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   I wonder how many churches would still function if they sacked all the gay clergy, the RC ones with a mistress and those with a "history"?   No wonder we have "OUTRAGE" dishing the dirt over this side of the pond!   I was booted out from one church, and what was the outcome?   "Eye" got a better church and a life, and they got a rotten organist!   I'm afraid that every church in the UK banished me, I just wouldn't blink....there are concert halls and universities.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- Alicia Zeilenga <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> wrote: > I hope no one labels this as discrimination too > quickly. I would most > likely be dismissed if I were to move in with a guy > without marrying him > first.   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:27:08 -0500   On 10/30/03 2:08 PM, "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> wrote:   > Absolutely, on both counts! Where did this druidic Unity Candle ritual = come > from, anyway? I wonder at what date it began to creep into the wedding > ceremony.   Well, there USED to be a special little ceremony (something involving a bloody bedsheet, as I recall)--but at least they had the decency to do it somewhat later in the evening or even early the next morning, albeit with all the friends and relatives waiting for the "evidence." And at least it had SOMETHING to do with SOMETHING.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: 4' Schalmei From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 11:33:16 -0800 (PST)   Hello,   What a fascinating prospect! I'd never thought of that.   I have a recording of an improvisation on a Dutch tune, and it took ME ages to pick out the cantus firmus. When I did, I was sort of humming the tune thinking, "Got you, you little blighter!"   Perhaps it is Dutch game?   We had a programme called "Face the music" here in the UK, when TV was educational, and one of the best bits was "spot the tune".   I shall try a "hidden gem" this Sunday, and see if anyone spots it.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       --- terry hicks <Terrick@webtv.net> wrote: A Dutch organ builder once told me that the > Europeans who have > grown up with many of the old tunes take delight in > "searching" for the > cantus firmus instead of being hit over the head by > the sound selected.   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/  
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: "Alicia Zeilenga" <azeilenga@theatreorgans.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:09:18 -0600   Thanks! I'll forward this to the lady. Alicia Zeilenga Sub-Dean AGO@UI "Santa Caecilia, ora pro nobis"     -----Original Message----- From: MH96@aol.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 14:13:07 EST Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers   > HI! > YOU CAN PLAY OR SING ANYTHING THAT IS TYPICALLY PERFORMED AT WEDDINGS > DURING > THE SEATING OF THE MOTHERS. THE BRIDE AT ONE OF MY RECENT WEDDINGS > REQUESTED > BACH "JESU, JOY OF MAN'S DESIRING" . I'VE ALSO PLAYED PACHELBEL "CANON > IN D". > IF YOU TYPE IN WEDDING ORGAN MUSIC OR WEDDING MUSIC IN YOUR BROWSER > YOU WILL > HAVE A LONG LIST OF MANY SITES WITH SUGGESTED MUSIC. I OCCASIONALLY > PLAY THE > HYMN OR HYMN ARRANGEMENT OF "O PERFECT LOVE" DURING THE LIGHTING OF THE > UNITY > CANDLE. WE ALSO TYPICALLY HAVE A BRIDESMAIDS' PROCESSINAL PIECE > FOLLOWED BY > A BRIDE'S PROCESSIONAL PIECE. > MICHAEL >      
(back) Subject: Re: 4' Schalmei From: "John Vanderlee" <jovanderlee@vassar.edu> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:52:36 -0800   >Hello, > >What a fascinating prospect! I'd never thought of >that. > >I have a recording of an improvisation on a Dutch >tune, and it took ME ages to pick out the cantus >firmus. When I did, I was sort of humming the tune >thinking, "Got you, you little blighter!" > >Perhaps it is Dutch game? > >We had a programme called "Face the music" here in the >UK, when TV was educational, and one of the best bits >was "spot the tune". > >I shall try a "hidden gem" this Sunday, and see if >anyone spots it. > >Regards, > >Colin Mitchell UK   On a more direct "hit you over the head" scale.. I just bought a great LP off Ebay. I believe it was the Dutch Rogier van Otterloo who played Lennon Mc Cartney tunes and variations on a tracker organ in Northern Holland. Some of it in the style of Bach! lots of fun!   John van der Lee  
(back) Subject: Re: 4' Schalmei From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:00:40 EST   In a message dated 10/30/2003 10:33:15 AM Pacific Standard Time, Terrick@webtv.net writes: Of course, the French Classical school demands 8' reed sound in the pedal, and it irritates the hell out of me when builders ignore this and skip to a 4' reed. Hi:   I've just got to chime in here with agreement. Bach wrote in very little in the way of registrations. He did in fact require an 8' Trumpet on the pedal for one of his Choral Preludes. It was almost a fetish with some builders to provide a 16' Posaune and a 4' Rohr Schalmei and no 8' reed in the pedal. I'm still stunned by this omission. To tie up a manual for coupling to the pedal absolutely makes no sense whatsoever, if in fact there is one actually available on some of these organs. During the period you were abounded with bees in a bottle reeds even on the manuals. The most weight in flues was a small scale stopped 16' for the pedals. I never understood the wisdom of this practice either, except it was cheaper than a full length 16' wood. The other fetish was trying to see how little wind could be provided and still have the pipes speak at all. If sombody built an organ on 60mm someone would have to go one better and go with 45mm and so forth or less. It really became an exercise in the bazaar. STRINGS? Why no real classical organist would dare use pretty stops, give them a Quintadena instead.   Yes, I'm rubbing some noses in it. :)   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: 4' Schalmei From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:38:27 EST   In a message dated 10/30/2003 4:08:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, RonSeverin@aol.com writes:   > 4' Rohr Schalmei   but they are so CUTE and help with the decorating with pipes syndrome so popular for so long.   I miss my 4' RS... end up using all the loose 4 stops to make the "choral =   bass" heard above 8 and 2.   But then I like 8,4,11/3 versus8,4 with the 8 prin on the pedal for select =   movements of my trios too, so what the heck do i know?   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Home pipe organ From: "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:50:26 -0600   I am looking to purchase a pipe organ for my home. It needs to fit a 3' = deep x 5" wide space. I have a cathedral ceiling, so height is not an issue. My =   budget (for now at least) is $5,000; so brand-new has obviously been ruled =   out.   It must be at least somewhat playable, and have 2 manuals and pedal. I = would facilitate disassembly and moving, so the price is to move it from your space.   It has to be a local move (within 150 miles of Madison, WI) unless it=92s = an offer I can't refuse, or your part of the country is very scenic.   Mike Franch Madison, WI   _________________________________________________________________      
(back) Subject: Wed Noon Recital: Madison, WI From: "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 16:49:58 -0600   WEDNESDAY NOON RECITAL   LUTHER MEMORIAL CHURCH Madison, Wisconsin   Aaron Burmeister - organ   October 29, 2003 NOON   Prelude and Fugue in C Major (BWV 545) J.S. Bach = (1685-1750)   Voluntary in A Minor John Stanley = (1712-1786)   Psalm Prelude, Op. 32, No. 1 Herbert Howells = (1892-1937)   Carillon de Westminster Louis Vierne = (1870-1937)   Mr. Burmeister currently serves as Cantor at St. Andrew Lutheran Church of =   Cedar Rapids, Iowa. Previous to that appointment, he taught for five years =   at Bethany Lutheran College in Mankato, Minnesota. He will be graduating = in December from the Indiana University School of Music with a Doctor of = Music Degree. ________________________________________________________   The church now has a website! You can view the many pictures and descriptions at:   http://luthermem.org   Mike Franch Madison, WI   _________________________________________________________________ Enjoy MSN 8 patented spam control and more with MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service. Try it FREE for one month! = http://join.msn.com/?page=3Ddept/dialup    
(back) Subject: Re: Seating of the Mothers From: "STRAIGHT" <STRAIGHT@infoblvd.net> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:10:11 -0500   I like to use Arioso by Bach, it's easy to end off in a number of places. Sometimes the mothers just walk in and sit down. Sometimes they go up to light the candles and can't get them lit. The Arioso is gently stately and flexible enough to either end off quickly or keep going as long as necessary.   Diane S.   --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Information Boulevard's Virus = Scanning]    
(back) Subject: Re: Gay Organist Fired From: "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 15:31:11 -0800     .. "The Diocese in British Columbia has now lost 19+ churches who have rebelled against their bishop for allowing gay marriges."   This statement is almost right.The Diocese of New Westminster (British Columbia, Canada) voted at least twice to allow the "blessing of same sex unions" The bishop did not agree the first time the issue was passed, but waited for the next year, and when it passed by a 65% majority, finally agreed. The bishop has stated that churches that do not agree with the blessing will not be forced to allow them. The issue has divided the local Anglican church, and the tone is now bitter, with charges going back and forth. A number of priests have been charged in bishops court with failing to comply with the rulings of the bishop. To put a pipe organ context on this, one of the local churches has stopped further action on rebuilding = its pipe organ until things have been settled, as the diocese actually is the legal owner of the property. There is pain here that needs to be healed.