PipeChat Digest #3929 - Wednesday, September 3, 2003
Re: Chimes
  by "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net>
And French Romantic on the German Baroque Organ
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Demessieux Etudes: Recordings
  by <Lewwill@aol.com>
Re: Bach Registration
  by "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk>
Demessiux Etudes Recording: Hyperlink
  by <Lewwill@aol.com>

(back) Subject: Re: Chimes From: "Jim Hailey" <jhaileya10@charter.net> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 23:05:40 -0500   Bud is right, the old 301s sounded horrible, except for the Chrysoglott. However, the new Renaissance models sound excellent.   Jim H ----- Original Message ----- From: <quilisma@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 1:39 PM Subject: Re: Chimes     > > Cheers, > > Bud > > Russ Greene wrote: > > Has anyone on the list run across a really decent set of > > bell/chime/carillon samples for MIDI? They appear to have everything > > else including some really obscure historical and ethnic instruments, > > but bell samples seem to be rare. > > > > Russ > > > > > > > > On Monday, September 1, 2003, at 09:15 PM, quilisma@cox.net wrote: > > > >> Eric, if you can think fast, playing > >> > >> e - c - g - c - f ON the chime sound will give you a synthetic middle > >> C ... just lock your hands in that position and play (chuckle) > >> > >> WORKS! > >> > >> Bud > >> > >> Eric McKirdy wrote: > >> > >>> I have a Yamaha keyboard with an okay Bell sound, but I'd really = like > >>> the > >>> real deal if possible. Not only for the sound, but also for the > >>> ambience and > >>> authenticity. > >>> On 9/1/03 6:16 PM, Keys4bach@aol.com said something about: > >>> > >>>> MIDI anyone? > >>>> > >>>> dale in Florida > >>>> > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >      
(back) Subject: And French Romantic on the German Baroque Organ From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 00:57:30 -0400   Dear Paul and List,   I was at the Worcester Regional you mention, and heard Marie Claire's marvellous performance as we all roasted. I was told by someone of the church who had consulted a thermometer that it was 110 degrees in the balcony. Madame appeared to be wearing a dress that was made out of aluminum. I am sure it wasn't, but it was that color, and looked very hot. = A trouper she is.   Your mention of the Klais at Cologne playing Reger convincingly reminds me of a concert by Paul Jacobs this past season on the Beckerath in Dwight Chapel at Yale. He played a big Reger piece (my memory has forgotten which one), and it was extremely effective and exciting.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Emmons, Paul" <PEMMONS@wcupa.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:11 PM Subject: RE: And French romantic on the German Baroque organ     Miriam Duncan once mentioned Marie-Claire Alain's reminiscences about playing her brother's Trois Danses at Haarlem. She didn't complain about the sound at all, but the heaviness of the manual action left her entire upper body aching for several days afterwords. She's always been a trooper under adverse conditions. When I first heard the name in the early 1960s, it was from an American reviewer of a recent American tour who complained about the miserable instruments that she = often had to contend with. At the Worcester, Mass. regional a couple years ago, she played superbly high in a west gallery, on such a hot evening that everyone in the audience was wilting and clutching water bottles.   It depends on the organ. David Craighead, I think it was, closed his recital with Fanck's Grand Piece Symphonique on the large Fisk at House of Hope Presbyterian in Minneapolis during the AGO national there. I thought that this performance was distinctly unpleasant to listen to, although the organ had been eloquent in Buxtehude and Bach.   On the other hand, the organist of Cologne Cathedral has made a CD on the new Klais that includes a good deal of Vierne, and it is very convincing, = as is the rest of the program. This organ might not be designed as "German Baroque", but eclectic, in accord with more cosmopolitan contemporary tastes. Whatever, it's amazingly effective and versatile considering its modest size. (It plays Reger, too, if with a relatively baroque accent. A recital there opened my ears to that composer, such that I came out loving his music for the first time ever.) German Swiss organists nowadays have a keen interest in French music and can play it wonderfully. This wasn't often the case as little as a generation ago.      
(back) Subject: Demessieux Etudes: Recordings From: <Lewwill@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 01:59:25 EDT   Dear Listers   From what I saw once on a website, Demessieux did indeed record her six etudes, but the recording was never issued.   Pierre Labric released the complete JD organ works on a 3-LP set from = Musical Heritage Society. His playing of her Te Deum at St. Ouen in Rouen is fabulous, great drama & fiery chamades blazing. While the etudes are very = well played on a Beuchet-Debierre organ at Angouleme, the detail gets lost from = the cavernous reverberation, distant miking, and rapid tempi. As someone said = of this recording, "it sounds like three people playing the organ at once."   A more recent CD by Maurizio Ciampi on the Stradivarius label is much better. I know nothing of this gentleman, but his virtuosity is such that = one is not even aware that there is any difficulty of execution. He makes the etudes into music rather than just incredible stunts. Every note is clear and in = place, but not in the least mechanical sounding. He is well served by the 3/87 = organ of the Pontifical Sanctuary of Pompei, Naples, Italy, though in some of = the more tumultuous passages, such as the last page of the Octaves etude, the = organ is literally gasping for breath.   In addition to the etudes, Ciampi also presents the lesser-known Sept Meditations sur le Saint Esprit. Composed a year after the etudes, they = are darker & more brooding that their glittering predecessors. Particularly appealing = is the final meditation, "Lumiere," which sounds almost like a shower of tiny =   meteors.   Interested parties need look no further than Amazon.com to find this excellent set.     Lew Williams    
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Registration From: "MusicMan" <musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:14:44 +0100   Dear Gregory,   Yes, interesting - if your organ runs to those sounds...   And Bach would have used ............ ?   (Just a little something for those who might like the mental stimulation = of dating that piece and researching the corresponding organ which Bach = would have used at that period of his life)   I await .........   Harry Grove [a.k.a. 'musicman'] -----Original Message----- From: Gfc234@aol.com <Gfc234@aol.com> To: pipechat@pipechat.org <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: 03 September 2003 02:43 Subject: Re: Bach Registration =20 =20 A nice oboe with a pretty 8' principal is good for the melody. You = could also use a krummhorn or regal 8' with an 8' flute, you could use a = nice 8' prinzipal alone, you could use a 16' prinzipal and play an = octave up-nice and tubby... A more haunting sound could be accomplished = with a sesquialtera and an 8' flute. You can use the trem with all of = these options. The accompaniment should be a nice 8' flute in the = manual and 16 and 8' flutes in the pedal. You could be naughty and use = an Albert Schweitzer registration and play legato. hehehe =20 Gregory Ceurvorst M.M. Organ Performance Northwestern University Director of Music and Organist St. Peter's U.C.C. Frankfort, IL 847.332.2788 home 708.243.2549 mobile gfc234@aol.com    
(back) Subject: Demessiux Etudes Recording: Hyperlink From: <Lewwill@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 04:05:42 EDT   Dear Listers   As a followup, for those who would be interested in the Ciampi recording:   http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00000199T/starshopcom-outlet-20/102= -07 64216-8232140