PipeChat Digest #3930 - Wednesday, September 3, 2003
 
A new question about chimes
  by "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Re: Bach Registration
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: German Romantic on  German Baroque
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Bach Registration
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Bach Registration
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: parts
  by "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com>
Re: Chimes
  by "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net>
looking for music
  by "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net>
Re: A new question about chimes
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
New Music
  by "Steve Chandler" <stevec@open-tech.com>
Andrew Carnegie/organ
  by "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com>
Re: A new question about chimes
  by "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com>
Daniel
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: A new question about chimes
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Daniel
  by "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca>
Re: A new question about chimes
  by "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Guns and Rosaries
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Guns and Rosaries
  by "Fr. Joseph M. Bakko +" <Sacerdos@ll.net>
Re: parts
  by "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com>
Re: Chimes
  by "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com>
Hymnal Debate in USA Today
  by <Pepehomer@aol.com>
Re: A new question about chimes
  by "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com>
Chimes
  by "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu>
 

(back) Subject: A new question about chimes From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 00:55:55 -0700   Hypothetical question.   If I somehow acquired a set of organ chimes, but the electronics weren't working, and the chimes themselves were fine, and I wanted to build a = frame to mount the organ chimes myself, could that be done, in theory? Specifically, what method would I use to hang the chimes from the 2x4 (or whatever) in such a way that no resonance, pitch or timbre would be lost? = Or is this totally out of the question?   Eric      
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Registration From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 06:54:05 -0400       > What Dr. Kraft says, of course (chuckle) ... what is it? Oboe, Vox   (C:   Dr. Kraft says here:   Swell: Strings 8, Oboe, and Flute 4' Great: No stops, Ch to Gt. Choir: Concert Flute 8' Pedal: Soft 16, Coup to Ch   Thanks for the help, I was waiting for someone to say the solo part should be on the Tuba Mirabilis. (C:   = -Nate   "The Apprentice" Maybe I should throw the 32' Violone on for the last note, heheheh.      
(back) Subject: Re: German Romantic on German Baroque From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 04:27:59 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Max Reger believed that his music could be played effectively on classical instruments.   Probably the finest vehicles for his music are the post-romantic instruments of Steinmeyer, as influenced by the work of the organ reform lobby and Karl Straube in particular.   Think "Passau", and one thinks of rich, reedy chorus work full of colour but not devoid of clarity, and the most beautiful non-orchestral quieter sounds.   Heard on the organs contemporary to Reger in England, America and Australia (as examples) a very great deal is lost when hearing or playing Reger; such is the swirl of sound. Even with the clearest of choruswork, Reger's music can sound jumbled very often; such is his use of dense harmony.   IMHO opinion, the best of Reger's music for organ is that which is chorale-based, where the chorale seemed to keep he and his listeners on track. In the free compositions, that thematic discipline is sometimes lost, and the end result often seems like harmomy and counterpoint serving only the discipline of harmony and counterpoint.   The clearer sounds of the classical organ therefore open the musical drapes slightly, and permit a view through a frosted glass window.   We have to remember that Wagner stretched harmony to its diatonic limits, and Brahms shunned this style in his pursuit of classical elegance. Reger took the classical forms also, but used the extreme harmonies of Wagner to the extent that it bordered on a-tonality.   Reger therefore, is the extreme expression of German Romanticism using classical forms, after which, only the 12-tone compositions of Schoenberg could possibly be "progressive" harmonically; assuming that throwing mashed potato at a dart-board could be considered an exact science.   In the tortured search for a new musical language, doesn't Reger represent the ultimate futility of a lost cause attempting modernity? It is surely the language of a nation (perhaps a whole continent) sliding into the abyss of chaos and warfare on a scale which even Reger could never have contemplated.   Isn't Dupre's "Passion Symphony" the French equivalent?   From the point of view of organ-music, Hindemith indicated a way out of that chaos, but who since has followed that lead?   Interestingly, the best known of the Hindemith organ sonatas (No.1?.....I haven't the music here with me) followed a Reger Fantasy in the programme I heard played recently on the Walcker organ at Doesburg in Holland. For the Hindemith, the organist switched consoles and played a punchy little thirteen speaking stop Flentrop from 1953.   How interesting that it sounded so fresh and dynamic after Reger and the heavy tones of the Walcker. It was the music of a new age and a new Europe.........art mimicking life once again?   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   (Why does a spell checker try to change the colour of things?)     --- Malcolm Wechsler <manderusa@earthlink.net> > > Your mention of the Klais at Cologne playing Reger > convincingly reminds me > of a concert by Paul Jacobs this past season on the > Beckerath in Dwight > Chapel at Yale. He played a big Reger piece (my > memory has forgotten which > one), and it was extremely effective and exciting.     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Registration From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 04:35:43 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Hopefully, you could then study medicine and become a missionary instead!!   :) Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK Gfc234@aol.com <Gfc234@aol.com> wrote:-   You could be naughty and use an Albert > Schweitzer registration and play legato. hehehe     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Bach Registration From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:44:20 EDT   In a message dated 9/3/2003 3:16:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, musicman@cottagemusic.co.uk writes:   > And Bach would have used ............ ? > >   Whatever was currently available on the organ at that moment at that place = on that day.   dale avoiding tar from the first suggestion in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: parts From: "James R McFarland" <mcfarland6@juno.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:35:05 -0400   Where are they located?   Jim       On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:08:14 -0700 "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> writes: Anyone want 3 keyboards--ivory covered from a 1925 AEolian console along with pnuematic relays? Harvey  
(back) Subject: Re: Chimes From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 23:16:09 -0700   ORCHESTRAL CHIMES? not organ but ORCHESTRAL?!?!   ....where do I sign how do I get there...   Jonathan in Riverside ----- Original Message ----- From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Chimes     > I have 2 sets in my garage--free for the taking > Harvey-Los Angeles > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sam Vause" <vause@cox.net> > To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:17 PM > Subject: RE: Chimes > > > > Eric, one suggestion: try contacting the local university (if you're close > to > > one) to see if they'd loan out their chime rack, maybe with a player. > Also, > > perhaps a larger local church, maybe? > > --Sam > > Sam Vause, Chandler, AZ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of > > Eric McKirdy > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:19 PM > > To: PipeChat > > Subject: Re: Chimes > > > > I have a Yamaha keyboard with an okay Bell sound, but I'd really like the > > real deal if possible. Not only for the sound, but also for the = ambience > and > > authenticity. ... > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > >     --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03    
(back) Subject: looking for music From: "Margo Dillard" <dillardm@airmail.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:31:36 -0500   Do any of you have a copy of the Piano Duet score for Jonathan Willcox's (sp?) "Images of Youth"? Or have you seen one? We are planning to do this work with a community chorus - and this accompaniment score has to be special ordered from the publisher. Before we order it, we were wondering - Is it one piano/4 hands or is it for 2 pianos? If 2 pianos, it is not possible in our venue. Also, it is apparently manuscript - Is it readable? And if you happen to own a copy and would like to help out an under-funded community chorus, would you consider loaning it to us?   Thanks, Margo accompanist, The Musical Feast Choral Society Lewisville, Texas    
(back) Subject: Re: A new question about chimes From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 09:19:07 EDT   Your organbuilder/curator can most likely provide a set of actions made specifically for the chimes by the firm that now owns both Mayland and = Deagan, Organ Supply Industries. Used chime actions are also available very = frequently in classified ads.  
(back) Subject: New Music From: "Steve Chandler" <stevec@open-tech.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 09:19:08 -0500   Hi All,   I mentioned a week or so ago in the discussion of historically informed performance that I'm a composer. I don't normally write for organ, but there's a competition for an organ piece of moderate difficulty and I'm considering submitting this. I'm curious what the people here think. Here's a link;   http://artists.mp3s.com/artist_song/3399/3399528.html   Regards,   *Steve Chandler* http://www.mp3.com/stevechandler <http://www.open-tech.com>        
(back) Subject: Andrew Carnegie/organ From: "Judy A. Ollikkala" <71431.2534@compuserve.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:40:55 -0400   Hello, this may not be of any help, but in my notes I have "4 Lutheran Churches in Utica have J. G. Marklove pipe organs". The Marklove organs built for other churches in Utica were constructed between 1860 and 1885. The 1883 Marklove tracker in St. Paul's Episcopal Church, Utica, had a walnut case and had a 17 notes pedal coupler added in 1901. Judy Ollikkala, Worcester MA   As a side note, I might add that Marie Claire Alain played Messaien's "La Banquet Celeste" on the baroque Taylor & Boody 4M. tracker at Holy Cross College Chapel some time ago, it decidedly did not go!  
(back) Subject: Re: A new question about chimes From: "Douglas A. Campbell" <dougcampbell@juno.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 10:44:25 -0400   Eric,   I have a 21 tube chime stand available. It's from a Moller organ and is complete EXCEPT fro the chime tubes themselves. It is electropneumatic and was in working condition when removed. It mounts to a wall and includes the rack and the action itself. If you 're interested, get back to me.     Douglas A. Campbell Skaneateles, NY   On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 00:55:55 -0700 Eric McKirdy <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> writes: > Hypothetical question. > > If I somehow acquired a set of organ chimes, but the electronics > weren't > working, and the chimes themselves were fine, and I wanted to build > a frame > to mount the organ chimes myself, could that be done, in theory? > Specifically, what method would I use to hang the chimes from the > 2x4 (or > whatever) in such a way that no resonance, pitch or timbre would be > lost? Or > is this totally out of the question? > > Eric > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related > topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > >   ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!  
(back) Subject: Daniel From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 11:56:27 -0300   Just wondering if the money arrived to you Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: A new question about chimes From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 07:59:27 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Better still, get a whole tower full from the John Taylor bell-founding company here in the UK!!   They supply carillons all over the world, and many organists actually play them, amongst them Bas de Vroome in the Netherlands, where the two jobs have often been linked.   OF COURSE, the purists would demand tracker action rather than electricfication, but I expect someone in the UK could design a good barker-lever version for the Francophiles or a full-blown pneumatic system for towers containing early 20th century bells.   Of course, one could never QUITE enjoy that control and intimacy of touch available with the historic pegs, squares, pedals,levers, pulleys and wires.   You don't believe me?   Try <www.taylorbells.co.uk>   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   (Anyone who has ever tried an old carillon as I have, will know how funny that last paragraph is! It pays to be an Olympic Athlete on steroids, amphetomines and pain killers all at the same time. A tracker organ is but a mere stepping stone!)     --- TubaMagna@aol.com wrote: > Your organbuilder/curator can most likely provide a > set of actions made > specifically for the chimes   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Daniel From: "Daniel Hopkins" <danielwh@ns.sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 12:01:43 -0300   oopps sorry that was a private message Daniel    
(back) Subject: Re: A new question about chimes From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 07:30:17 -0700   Right. Okay. But suppose I want a set of chimes that are mallet-struck, = and not electronic, and I want to mount the organ chimes in such a way that = they can be played with a mallet, without losing timbre, resonance or pitch. That's my question -- can it be done, and if so, how?         On 9/3/03 6:19 AM, TubaMagna@aol.com said something about:   > Your organbuilder/curator can most likely provide a set of actions made > specifically for the chimes by the firm that now owns both Mayland and = Deagan, > Organ Supply Industries. Used chime actions are also available very > frequently in > classified ads. > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org >    
(back) Subject: Guns and Rosaries From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:15:09 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   Has the world gone barking?   We have a vicar here in Yorkshire (Anglican of course) who suggested that his congregation turn up in football shirts, due to the fact that an important game was being played. The picture of the event showed this ridiculously skinny man, wearing football attire and sporting "bottle-bottom" spectacles.....what an advert for the athletic feat of church-going!   Now we have a local pastor of a freak church, who decided to make a glamorous promotional video. He is, of course, the "star" of the show, and is seen driving around in an extremely expensive sports-car and brandishing a gun!!   Neither church have an organ anymore.   I am planning a sequel, in which an organist is seen to carry a REAL noose.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Guns and Rosaries From: "Fr. Joseph M. Bakko +" <Sacerdos@ll.net> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 10:13:03 -0500   What can one say ? Deo Gratias, *some* of us continue to uphold Bells & Smells, Cranmer's stately prose, The Anglican Missal and pipe organs !   JMB+   Colin Mitchell wrote:   > Hello, > > Has the world gone barking? > > We have a vicar here in Yorkshire (Anglican of course) > who suggested that his congregation turn up in > football shirts, due to the fact that an important > game was being played. The picture of the event showed > this ridiculously skinny man, wearing football attire > and sporting "bottle-bottom" spectacles.....what an > advert for the athletic feat of church-going! > > Now we have a local pastor of a freak church, who > decided to make a glamorous promotional video. He is, > of course, the "star" of the show, and is seen driving > around in an extremely expensive sports-car and > brandishing a gun!! > > Neither church have an organ anymore. > > I am planning a sequel, in which an organist is seen > to carry a REAL noose. > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org    
(back) Subject: Re: parts From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:25:41 -0700   In Santa Barbara, Ca.--need to contact me first Harvey ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James R McFarland=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Cc: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 4:35 AM Subject: Re: parts     Where are they located?   Jim       On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 22:08:14 -0700 "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> = writes: Anyone want 3 keyboards--ivory covered from a 1925 AEolian console along with pnuematic relays? Harvey    
(back) Subject: Re: Chimes From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:27:49 -0700   Hi Jonathan I posted my local LA number call me--again these are electric action chimes--tubular Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Orwig" <giwro@adelphia.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Chimes     > ORCHESTRAL CHIMES? not organ but ORCHESTRAL?!?! > > ..where do I sign how do I get there... > > Jonathan in Riverside > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> > To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:00 PM > Subject: Re: Chimes > > > > I have 2 sets in my garage--free for the taking > > Harvey-Los Angeles > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Sam Vause" <vause@cox.net> > > To: "'PipeChat'" <pipechat@pipechat.org> > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:17 PM > > Subject: RE: Chimes > > > > > > > Eric, one suggestion: try contacting the local university (if you're > close > > to > > > one) to see if they'd loan out their chime rack, maybe with a = player. > > Also, > > > perhaps a larger local church, maybe? > > > --Sam > > > Sam Vause, Chandler, AZ > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf = Of > > > Eric McKirdy > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:19 PM > > > To: PipeChat > > > Subject: Re: Chimes > > > > > > I have a Yamaha keyboard with an okay Bell sound, but I'd really = like > the > > > real deal if possible. Not only for the sound, but also for the ambience > > and > > > authenticity. ... > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related = topics > > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 8/19/03 > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Hymnal Debate in USA Today From: <Pepehomer@aol.com> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:31:02 -0400   Interesting article in USA Today debating both sides of the "hymnal vs = video screen" debate.   http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030903/5464114s.htm   Justin Karch Organist, Holy Trinity LCMS Rome, GA  
(back) Subject: Re: A new question about chimes From: "harv8" <harv8@email.msn.com> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2003 08:29:53 -0700   They can be hung from a frame that can be constructed out of wood as they have a string loop at the top and the mountin will not affect the tonality at all. The location would have more of an effect. Harvey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 7:30 AM Subject: Re: A new question about chimes     > Right. Okay. But suppose I want a set of chimes that are mallet-struck, and > not electronic, and I want to mount the organ chimes in such a way that they > can be played with a mallet, without losing timbre, resonance or pitch. > That's my question -- can it be done, and if so, how? > > > > > On 9/3/03 6:19 AM, TubaMagna@aol.com said something about: > > > Your organbuilder/curator can most likely provide a set of actions = made > > specifically for the chimes by the firm that now owns both Mayland and Deagan, > > Organ Supply Industries. Used chime actions are also available very > > frequently in > > classified ads. > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Chimes From: "Shelley Culver" <culverse@westminster.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 11:47:29 -0400   Good morning Pipchat buddies!   In regards to Eric's chime question, I think you're all thinking on the wrong track. Stop thinking organ chimes and think of going to a band or symphony concert and think the chimes you would see in the percussion section. (See pictures here: http://www.rossmallets.com/chimes.html or http://www.musicanfriend.com/prod_disp.asp?itemnum=3DR605 or http://www.caldwellmusic.com/prod_disp.asp?itemnum=3DBK5003) Eric has chimes or a carillon or something like it on his organ. He wants something more authentic, for one thing. For another thing, the organist (who will not be Eric) cannot play both the chime part and the organ part.   Now, I know this is an organ list and so the first thing that pops in to many people's heads is organ chimes. However, as he once specified, he wants chimes that are more of a percussion instrument that you strike with a mallet.   Now, if we want to turn this into an organ-related topic, read the following statement very closely: He has access to some organ chimes, and wants to know the best way to convert them to freestanding orchestral chimes, without harming the sound of the organ chimes in any way.   Orchestral chimes are very expensive. So if he can't find a set to rent/borrow/get at a reasonable price, he wants to know if he can indeed turn his organ chimes into orchestral chimes (refer to above pictures for exact defintion).   So having said this, does anyone have any suggestions on how to do this?   Thanks bunches-- Shelley -- the official spokeswoman for Eric McKirdy when he's too busy to send his own emails. And now...back to species counterpoint homework.