PipeChat Digest #3944 - Monday, September 8, 2003 Re: What is mean tempered tuning? by <RonSeverin@aol.com> RE: Iberian chamades and NYC Gluck by "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com> Big Bug by <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Pipe Organs afloat by "bnorth" <firstname.lastname@example.org> 2 manual Rodgers drawknob console by "Anthony Nichols" <email@example.com>
(back) Subject: Re: What is mean tempered tuning? From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:36:20 EDT Dear Fran and Bob: Sounds like the wrong organist for the organ. Bach and Buxtehude only knew instruments with quarter comma meantone. If you play a lot of music from that era, you'll be fine. If he plays a lot of 19th and 20th century music in far distant keys he won't like it. Sounds like a square peg in a round hole. Beethoven's Emperor Concerto would sound fine in Vallotti well temper. In fact pianos were tuned that way then. Those pianos didn't carry all the modern strings either. They sounded more like a Dulcimer back then with single strings per note for the most part. It may not be all that satisfying to the modern ear, = but that's what old Ludwig heard on the old piano-forte's when he could hear. Valotti is a mild form of well temper though, and modern music sounds fine using it. Herbert L. Huestis has produced some fine articals on this very subject. Some modern pianists actually prefer Vallotti to equal temperment and have their pianos tuned that way, especially for large concert halls. These pianos have very long strings. Small upright bungalow pianos sound much better in equal for a small room. Vallotti sounds warmer in the big rooms. I suppose some people live in their own little world, but the world is a big place with a lot of room for a whole lot of music. Martin Pasi is now putting the finishing touches on His Opus XIV an organ for St. Cecilia Cathedral Omaha, Nebraska. It is a three manual of 59 stops and 75 well tempered ranks, 29 of those stops and 40 ranks are also available in quarter comma meantone. Eight notes per octave, per stop have been added to accomplish this with four notes in common with well temper. There are no split keys and are used either or but not together. The musicians asked Martin to do it that way and are very happy with the results with the music produced by it for church work. Herb Huestis will send you a free copy if you ask for September, 2003. His artical and the organ are in the same issue. Watch the pipechat list. he makes an offer every month. The more things change, the more they are the same. Ron Severin
(back) Subject: RE: Iberian chamades and NYC Gluck From: "firstname.lastname@example.org" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:47:40 -0400 Alan, I saw that job posted on the AGO site and the pay is pitiful=2E About $60= 00 a year=2E And that is for organist AND choir director=2E That would be a= wful pay for ONE of those two positions in a cheaper place to live than NYC=2E=20= These people obviously don't care too mcuh about music=2E If the potentia= l applicant reads this I advise them to stay as far away as possible=2E Tha= t salary is just too big of a red flag in my opinion=2E P=2ES=2E We KNOW it is an excellent machine becaues Sebastian built it=2E= That is partly what leads me to believe that they have money but don't wanna pay=2E Because if they had no money they couldn't have afforded to have i= t rebuilt 8 years ago=2E Anyways, Sebastian knows more about the situation than me I'm sure so his input is the most useful but I thought I'd just share my 2 cents because the low salary shocked me=2E Andrew Meagher Original Message: ----------------- Wrom: VWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRESKPNKMBIPBARHDMNNS Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2003 18:37:58 -0400 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: Iberian chamades and NYC Gluck On 9/6/03 4:05 PM, "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink=2Enet> wrote: >> 2 - I used to have a picture of a Spanish organ that had a Chemade >> trumpet that sort of radiated from the bottom of the center tower, does= it >> sound familiar to anyone? >=20 > Very=2E Can't dig it out today, but I'll try tomorrow afternoon=2E I d= oubt > that's unique=2E =20 >=20 > Alan Well, I sort of promised, but subsequent posts (notably one from Seb) FARR= R exceeded the pitiful information I could I have provided--so I think I should let it go=2E =20 Speaking of which, Seb: Christ Church, lower east side=2E 19th/20th St=2E= Advertising for a new organist=2E A potential applicant has asked my opin= ion=2E I have none; utterly unfamiliar with it=2E Would you care to say anything= ? Lousy people to work for? Good intentions but small budget? Fantastic machine? Whatever=2E Words on this list will reach her; if you prefer, post to me offlist, and I'll forward=2E Within a matter of hours you'll know who she is anyway=2E= Alan Thanks=2E Alan "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E
(back) Subject: Big Bug From: <TRACKELECT@cs.com> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 01:17:56 EDT OK, I think I have dealt with about every conceivable creature getting = into pipes. Rats, mice, bats and owl pellets, (they sit on the top of the pipes = and gaak up the fur and bones of all the tiny rodents they ingest) as well as = bugs of every shape and size. The only way to make a reed pipe work right when = it fights you is to take it completely apart. I assume that it worked right before bug contamination. Take the resonator off. Look in it. Are there = more bugs in there. Was it a swarm? Is there some kind of nest in there? If so, blow = it out with compressed air if possible. Take the shallot out. Examine it carefully, are there bug guts in it? Clean it and the tongue with = denatured alcohol. Bugs are basically fat and protein (yum!), the protein is very sticky. You = have to get it off so it won't attract dirt. Burnish the shallot on crocus = cloth on a very flat surface. Just a little. Just enough to make it shiny. Burnish = the tongue the same way ONLY if there is stuff that won't come off with the alcohol. Don't flatten it out, burnish one spot at a time very carefully = so you don't destroy the curve. Don't rub hard enough to heat it up, you'll ruin = the temper. Then put it all back together very carefully. Get everything = straight, perfectly straight. Line up the voicers mark on the shallot with the = block. Get the wedge tight from top to bottom, not just side to side. Don't let = things move when you tighten it. Is the wire tight enough? Is it too tight? If it = doesn't work right after all this then the curve of the tongue is screwed = up. Don't ask me how to curve tongues via email. I have given away too many tricks already. Good luck: Alan B. Alan A. Binger Organbuilder Inc. Freehold, N.J.
(back) Subject: Pipe Organs afloat From: "bnorth" <firstname.lastname@example.org> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:32:20 -0700 I know this subject came up some time ago, and was surprised as I read a = yachting magazine tonight. I came across a pipe organ on board a yacht! = The magazine is "Yachts International", September 2003 edition. The = yacht is a 124 foot sloop (sail boat) named the "Antonisa", was = designed by noted naval architect Bruce King, and built in 1999 by = HodgdonYachts of East Boothbay, Maine. The organ looks like a tracker, = one manual and possibly pedal. There are four sets of pipes, silver in = color, at the front of the attached case. There appears to be four draw = knobs on each side of the keyboard. No information is given about the = organ, just about the yacht and the builder. If any of our list mates = live near the ship yard, maybe we could get some more information about = the yacht and its interesting pipe organ. Regards........Bob
(back) Subject: 2 manual Rodgers drawknob console From: "Anthony Nichols" <email@example.com> Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2003 22:38:51 -0700 (PDT) Hello, I am looking for a 2 manual Rodgers drawknob console that is NOT working. = I would prefer a Rodgers 850 or 830. It does not have to have any of the = the internal electronics, drawknobs, couplers or pistons. All I need is = the console shell with keyboards, pedalboard and bench. I plan to build a = Musicom based practice instrument. I am located in western North Carolina, = which is within relative driving distance of cities such as Hickory NC, = Winston-Salem NC, Atlanta GA, Chattanooga and Knoxville TN. If anyone has = one of these consoles that you would be willing to get rid of for a cheap = price or for free, please e-mail me at firstname.lastname@example.org. Thanks, Anthony Nichols --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software