PipeChat Digest #3948 - Wednesday, September 10, 2003
 
Re: Organ transplants
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
Re: Christ Church, NYC
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Re: durufle mass
  by <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com>
RE: Organ transplants
  by "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net>
Re: Christ Church, NYC
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Christ Church, NYC
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Dictionary definitions
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Good Evening
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: Tubulars in S. New England
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
RE: Christ Church, NYC
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Tubulars in S. New England
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Dictionary definitions
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Calliopies (or, "to 'air' is Human"??)
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: durufle mass
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
IRC
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
"One hell of a stereo system"  @ Trinity Church
  by "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca>
Re: Organ transplants
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
registration
  by "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com>
Widor ORCHESTRATION book in English
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
RE: Pipe Organs afloat
  by "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
RE: Definition of organ
  by "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Iberian chamades and NYC Gluck
  by "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Christ Church, NYC
  by "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
Re: Christ Church, NYC
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Christ Church, NYC Plus looking for organ practice time.
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Organ transplants From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 13:16:40 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I get offers of kidney and liver transplants!!   First there was the cat, and then there was the violinist.   Poor cat!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- Andr=E9s G=FCnther <agunther@cantv.net> wrote:   > I tapped in "Organos"- and out came a > huge list of organ > trasplanting institutes, associations, hospitals, > surgeons and 'organ > banks'....... *Yuk* > ......still was an internet dummie <G>.     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:00:55 EDT   Ladies and Gentlemen: I do not know how much the pastor is paid, what percentage of their annual budget she earns, nor how worship is conducted. What I DO know is that she saved that church when it was at its nadir = and her predecessor quit, has kept its doors open, and tried to keep the roof holes closed... The fact that she had an organ built and wishes to hire a =   musician is better than calling in banjos and tambourines, or accompanying = the service with their upright piano. One of my fondest memories of the community at Christ Church is the weekend we had a church work party, removing two layers of padding and = three layers of wall-to-wall carpeting, with elderly ladies, dressed to the nines, removing tack strip with claw hammers before feeding us a buffet lunch. A = small congregation, but a fiercely loyal bunch.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City ..  
(back) Subject: Re: durufle mass From: <DarrylbytheSea@aol.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 17:34:26 EDT   Hey, Scott.   My favorite recording all the Durufle works is the Naxos issue with Eric LeBrun and a French professional choir. Eric's playing is very, very good, = and the choir is equal to his playing. It's one of my favorite c.d.'s and I've = given it as a gift many times, too.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea    
(back) Subject: RE: Organ transplants From: "Mark & Cinda Towne" <mstowne@concentric.net> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 15:03:32 -0700   On-line translators give some interesting translations too.   I translated the organ spec page for the Haarlem Concertgebouw from Dutch = to English and found that the organ had as a Diapason an 8' The Main Thing = and the Pedal Bourdon became a 16' Bumblebee...hope THAT doesn't get caught in = a reed shallot!   Regards from a cooler Las Vegas! Mark S. Towne   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Colin Mitchell Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:17 PM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Organ transplants     Hello,   I get offers of kidney and liver transplants!!   First there was the cat, and then there was the violinist.   Poor cat!   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK   --- Andris G|nther <agunther@cantv.net> wrote:   > I tapped in "Organos"- and out came a > huge list of organ > trasplanting institutes, associations, hospitals, > surgeons and 'organ > banks'....... *Yuk* > ......still was an internet dummie <G>.     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org        
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:30:57 -0400   On 9/9/03 5:00 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > I do not know how much the pastor is paid, what percentage of their > annual budget she earns, nor how worship is conducted.   Seb, what can one say? Is there a church or synagogue in this country = that would not be proud to have such an eloquent tribute written about them? Beautiful!   Thank you.   Alan      
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:05:26 -0400   Seb: What a wonderful thing for you to be able to say. And then, not = only to be ABLE to say, but to actually SAY! I'm very much impressed with them and, even more than before, impressed with YOU.   Alan   P.S.: Sorry about the previous "Church Church" subject line: "Christ Church," of course.   On 9/9/03 5:00 PM, "TubaMagna@aol.com" <TubaMagna@aol.com> wrote:   > Ladies and Gentlemen: > I do not know how much the pastor is paid, what percentage of their > annual budget she earns, nor how worship is conducted. > What I DO know is that she saved that church when it was at its nadir = and > her predecessor quit, has kept its doors open, and tried to keep the = roof > holes closed... The fact that she had an organ built and wishes to hire = a > musician is better than calling in banjos and tambourines, or = accompanying the > service with their upright piano. > One of my fondest memories of the community at Christ Church is the > weekend we had a church work party, removing two layers of padding and = three > layers > of wall-to-wall carpeting, with elderly ladies, dressed to the nines, > removing tack strip with claw hammers before feeding us a buffet lunch. = A > small > congregation, but a fiercely loyal bunch. > > Sebastian M. Gluck > New York City    
(back) Subject: Re: Dictionary definitions From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:09:24 -0400   I just love stirring up a good fuss. Do a google on "devil's calliope" = and you will, indeed, find a propane-fired, er, winded pipe organ. Then, = of course, there was Terry Jones' mouse organ, but let's not go there.   -WG     > "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello, > > No, I'm sorry, but this just isn't good enough. > > A "steam" organ is like any other except that the > energy comes from a more dense medium than air and fed > at higher pressure. If I were to blow standard organ > pipes with carbon-dioxide, helium or even hydrogen > cyanide (there's a thought for the processional!), > they would still function in exactly the same way, > albeit at higher or lower frequencies than normal. > ... > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK    
(back) Subject: Re: Good Evening From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:27:34 -0400         > Hello, > > Why? Do you want a few? > > This could be arranged! > > Regards, > > Colin Mitchell UK     Hi all,   Heheh, no thanks, I just want to experience the action, speech, and any other unique qualities of a tube-pneumatic.. (C:   = -Nate   "The Apprentice"      
(back) Subject: Re: Tubulars in S. New England From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:32:28 -0400   > Yes there are. At least I know of one in Fitchburg MA (1926 Casavant > restored tubular) and one in Worcester MA (1913 Estey).   Thanks for the info, Worcester is a hop skip and jump away from here... = Do you think they'd think I'm a wacko if I asked them about their pipe organ? (C:   = -Nate   "The Apprentice"      
(back) Subject: RE: Christ Church, NYC From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 18:27:12 -0500   Seb, for you and the church, if I were up there in the area, I would take the job, even if it didn't pay shit. Thanks for your words.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com          
(back) Subject: Re: Tubulars in S. New England From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:45:06 -0400   On 9/9/03 7:32 PM, "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> wrote:   > Thanks for the info, Worcester is a hop skip and jump away from here... = Do > you think they'd think I'm a wacko if I asked them about their pipe = organ? > (C: > Of course. Even if you didn't. (Gee, I hope you're not a hypersensitive guy; I'm just kidding.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Dictionary definitions From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 20:20:35 -0500     ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:21 AM Subject: Dictionary definitions     > Hello, > > No, I'm sorry, but this just isn't good enough. > > A "steam" organ is like any other except that the > energy comes from a more dense medium than air and fed > at higher pressure.   O.K. you win. I guess inasmuch as the calliope is called a "steam organ" that perhaps we can call it an organ after all. Incidentally, though the calliope is generally fed with pretty high pressure steam -- because that = is the pressure available in steamboats, etc. -- in fact because steam is expansive, it only takes about 1/3 the pressure to sound a pipe with = steam.   John Speller    
(back) Subject: Calliopies (or, "to 'air' is Human"??) From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:50:28 -0400   Hi, everyone --   For the record, there was indeed an instrument called " The Tangley Calliaphone" which was a portable calliope blown by high pressure air, instead of steam. The "pipes" were brass calliope whistles, much more = than any kind of organ pipe. I think they had about 4 octaves playable by either a little keyboard or an automatic roll device. They were intended for circus/parade/fair use, and are indeed QUITE loud when heard up close. The instrument was the invention of one Norman Tangley of Muscatine, Iowa, if memory serves correctly.   Years ago I attended a gathering called a "band organ rally" held in a = city park in Muscatine. There were several Calliaphones in attendance, along with dozens of other "band organs" of all shapes, sizes, and pedigrees. The one thing they all shared was the capability to produce music at incredible volume levels.   Now, imagine them all going at once.....<G>....as I recall, it was a rather glorious racket!   Cheers,   Tim                    
(back) Subject: Re: durufle mass From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 21:51:06 -0400   Dear Darryl and List,       All this talk of the Durufle Missa Cum Jubilo takes me back to a concert = at St. Ignatius Loyola in NY in March of this year. It might have been = called a concert with Olivier Latry and Friends. Some musical events at = St. Ignatius do eventually end up in available CDs, and one can hope = that this concert might be one of these. This was my first and only = hearing of the Mass, and I would love to be able to play it over and = over again. Anyway, here are enthusings I produced after the = performance, for what they may be worth:       "The program began gently and excruciatingly beautifully, with the = Durufle Messe Cum Jubilo, Opus 11. Aaron Smith conducting, Andrew = Henderson playing the sumptuous Organ accompaniment. Eight male singers, = including soloist Gregory Purnhagen, a Baritone whose beautiful voice = simply, and seemingly effortlessly, floats out of him and fills the vast = building with luscious, lyrical sound. This all happened in the west = gallery, close to the Organ, of course, but we could watch the music = being made via the very large projection TV system, and I must say that = in this case particularly, being connected visually to the performance = added something, a kind of look in on a group fully in the grip of this = glorious music, with a conductor whose gentle connection to the music = and singers was an art form in itself. Andrew Henderson worked his magic = on what is in truth a very complex score, both in getting the notes all = played, and in registration, all of this in a way that supports the = singers, in volume, of course, but more to the point, in all the subtle = rhythmic give and take of a Durufle performance. I would say the A Team, = Andrew and Aaron, really gave a very large audience a most moving = beginning to a magnificent concert."       Thanks for the memories,       Malcolm Wechsler   www.mander-organs.com =20   ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DarrylbytheSea@aol.com=20 To: pipechat@pipechat.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 5:34 PM Subject: Re: durufle mass     Hey, Scott.   My favorite recording all the Durufle works is the Naxos issue with = Eric LeBrun and a French professional choir. Eric's playing is very, = very good, and the choir is equal to his playing. It's one of my = favorite c.d.'s and I've given it as a gift many times, too.   Yours,   Darryl by the Sea  
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 19:24:07 -0700   I'm on ...   Bud      
(back) Subject: "One hell of a stereo system" @ Trinity Church From: "bnorth" <bnorth@intergate.ca> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 19:52:15 -0700   Check out the New York Times article on the new digital organ at Trinity = Church, New York city www.nytimes.com/2003/09/10/arts/music/10ORGA.html    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ transplants From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:02:35 -0500   Hi, Mark: You wrote: <This may be fun.> < ...the organ had as a Diapason an 8' The Main Thing and > the Pedal Bourdon became a 16' Bumblebee...hope THAT > doesn't get caught in a reed shallot! Hey, that's a "Big Bug." <grins> F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs ..  
(back) Subject: registration From: "Gary Black" <gblack@ocslink.com> Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 23:26:12 -0500   HI list, I am learning the Bach 2nd schubler Chorale entitled 'Auf meinen lieben Gott.' Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to register this chorale? Enquiring minds like mine want to know. Thanks. Gary      
(back) Subject: Widor ORCHESTRATION book in English From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 21:56:45 -0700   Has anybody reprinted this? I know it's old-fashioned, but I found over the years that was a GOOD thing when writing for players of modest abilities.   Mine disappeared some years ago, and I never had occasion to replace it till now.   Or, alternatively, is there something similar that's easily accessible?   I haven't written anything for band since I arranged "Jesus, My Lord, My God, My All," "To Jesus' Heart All-Burning," "O Salutaris," "Tantum ergo," and "Holy God" for Cathedral Latin High School Band to play for our Corpus Christi street procession at Holy Rosary in Cleveland, circa .... oh ... probably 1963 (chuckle).   They were VERY tired of "O Sal" and "Tantum" after the SEVENTH outdoor Benediction (grin).   What FUN!   Cheers,   Bud      
(back) Subject: RE: Pipe Organs afloat From: "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:45:55 -0400   I wish they had those devices at my previous church job Alan=2E I played = on a Wicks then that was a nightmare to keep in tune becuase it was scrunched=   into too small of a space=2E I didn't know those devices existed but will=   certainly remember them if I end up in another situation where the tuning is problematic=2E Thanks for the info=2E   Andrew Meagher     Original Message: ----------------- From: Colin Mitchell cmys13085@yahoo=2Eco=2Euk Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 00:58:30 -0700 (PDT) To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: RE: Pipe Organs afloat     Hello,   No it wouldn't!   Various locking devices were used on touring pipe organs to prevent tuning slides and reed springs from moving=2E   The same things are applied to band organs which moved from venue to venue=2E=2E=2E=2E=2Esome still do=2E   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK     --- "ameagher@stny=2Err=2Ecom" <ameagher@stny=2Err=2Ecom> wrote: >=20 > I would think that would be impossible to keep intune > while the yacht is on > the water!     __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder=2Eyahoo=2Ecom "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E      
(back) Subject: RE: Definition of organ From: "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 01:47:22 -0400   Right on Mari! I don't like Rodgers myself=2E Gotta have pipes!   Andrew     Original Message: ----------------- From: Mari mreive@tampabay=2Err=2Ecom Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 07:00:31 -0400 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: RE: Definition of organ     So what=2E Let Rodgers sulk=2E Mari St Petersburg   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg [mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg]On Behalf Of=   ameagher@stny=2Err=2Ecom Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:31 AM To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: Re: Definition of organ     Man y organist I know say: "if it doesn't have pipes, it's not an organ" thought I bet Rodgers would disagree with that=2E=2Elol   Original Message: ----------------- Wrom: TWFAOBUZXUWLSZLKBRNVWWCUFPEGAUTFJMVRE Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:49:37 -0400 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: Re: Definition of "organ"             > On 9/8/03 5:04 PM, "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom=2Enet> wrote: > > > I don't mean to start another war, but strictly, practically, and artistically > > speaking, your definition is wrong=2E > > > > -WG   Alan Freed then wrote:   > Well, this will be interesting (I hope)=2E I'm totally neutral, Walter,=   but I > think you owe us an alternative definition, or at last a proposal of one= =2E > I'm wide open to it=2E (Quite seriously=2E) > > Alan >   Hi Alan and Group, With all due respect and in my own humble opinion, I suggest that Walter has given us that alternative definition, albeit somewhat cryptically=2E Wind = is wind, whether generated by a hand pumped bellows, a blower, a steam pressure system, a mechanical air compression system, compressed gas from an air tank, or any=   other contrivance that causes the movement of air through plumbing systems as consequence to pressure differentials=2E Should the statement above be accepted, then it is impossible to defin= e a calliope as anything but an organ provided we all agree an organ is an instrument that generates sound by moving air through tubes that cause the air column= s to vibrate=2E Steam is air combined with water vapor at a high temperature, b= ut it is still wind=2E Mike   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg         "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E      
(back) Subject: Re: Iberian chamades and NYC Gluck From: "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:02:55 -0400   ALan,   Where does she know me form? Who is she? If you don't wnat to say then e-mail me privately=2E Actually, now that I think of it, I think I may kn= ow who it is, but I won't say in this form because I don't want to break confidences=2E Anyways, I'd like to know more if she knows me=2E   Andrew =20   Original Message: ----------------- Wrom: XRQBGJSNBOHMKHJYFMYXOEAIJJPHSCRTNHGS Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 12:45:13 -0400 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: Re: Iberian chamades and NYC Gluck     On 9/9/03 1:12 AM, "ameagher@stny=2Err=2Ecom" <ameagher@stny=2Err=2Ecom> w= rote:   > Good luck to your friend Alan=2E I hope she finds a good job=2E That i= s very > nice of you to help her get a job=2E Most people wouldn't do that for > someone=2E Another interesting thing to find out is what the pastor is=   > getting paid=2E It is obiously a red flag if they claim they can't pay = the > organist more than $6,000 but are at the same time paying the pator > $60,000=2E=2Elol Best of luck=2E >=20 Thank you, Andrew=2E Actually, she needs no luck; she's got real skills t= o market, and she'll succeed just fine=2E Also actually, she knows YOU=2E = Says you're a nice guy, so we know she's perceptive=2E But you're right=2E Th= e parish in question is small and poor; I'm trying to reach the pastor by phone, without success so far=2E I think I'll call her husband (whom I kn= ow better) and ask how to reach her=2E They're both good folks=2E   Alan   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E      
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC From: "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:09:46 -0400   Sebastian,   Sounds like a great pastor who is probably more interested in the well-being of the church than her salary=2E Unfortunately a lot of pastor= s do not think this way=2E   Andrew Original Message: ----------------- Wrom: WOYIYZUNNYCGPKYLEJ Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2003 17:00:55 -0400 (EDT) To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC     Ladies and Gentlemen: I do not know how much the pastor is paid, what percentage of their=20=   annual budget she earns, nor how worship is conducted=2E What I DO know is that she saved that church when it was at its nadir and=20 her predecessor quit, has kept its doors open, and tried to keep the roof=20=   holes closed=2E=2E=2E The fact that she had an organ built and wishes to = hire a=20 musician is better than calling in banjos and tambourines, or accompanying=   the=20 service with their upright piano=2E One of my fondest memories of the community at Christ Church is the=20=   weekend we had a church work party, removing two layers of padding and three layers=20 of wall-to-wall carpeting, with elderly ladies, dressed to the nines,=20 removing tack strip with claw hammers before feeding us a buffet lunch=2E = A small=20 congregation, but a fiercely loyal bunch=2E   Sebastian M=2E Gluck New York City =2E "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www=2Epipechat=2Eorg List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat=2Eorg Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat=2Eorg       -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E      
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:29:14 EDT   Hi Andrew:   I've been following the progress of this thread, and Seb.'s and Alan's remarks. It immediately brought to mind an old saying, You can't tell a book by it's cover,.............until you open it. Glenda said it all. = And she's right, money isn't everything. All we have to do is find the right person.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Christ Church, NYC Plus looking for organ practice time. From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 02:43:50 EDT   Andrew:   As for an organist, there was a fellow today that has been looking for a year, a place to practice in NYC. He was willing to pay for practice time, perhaps he would accept a small salery to help this little congregation out. He wrote to the lists twice today. It might be an example of God working in mysterious ways. I hope someone tucked his e-mail away, or that he's already read about this and contacted the church's pastor. Two needs filled at the same time. What a concept?   Ron Severin