PipeChat Digest #3952 - Wednesday, September 10, 2003
 
Re: Black Hole Research
  by "Bill" <bill.hauser@cox.net>
RE: Exploding pneumatics
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net>
Re: New organ stop?
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
RE: Pilar Cabrera & Bruges Cathedral (Mea Culpa)
  by "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be>
Hybrid organs?
  by "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net>
Re: Black Hole Research
  by "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com>
Bradley Welch in Concert
  by "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net>
Re: New organ stop?
  by "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com>
Re: Pilar Cabrera & Bruges Cathedral (Mea Culpa)
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Re: New organ stop?
  by <OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com>
Re: New organ stop?
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Didn't work out.  Well, y'all tried.  Thanks.
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Two Pneumatic Instruments, Actions Retained
  by "Mark Quarmby" <mark_quarmby@yahoo.com>
tubular action
  by "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net>
Re: Black Hole Research
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
Re: Bellevue and Tacoma, WA. Recital Announcement
  by <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de>
Re: Bellevue and Tacoma, WA. Recital Announcement
  by <BlueeyedBear@aol.com>
IRC
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Christmas piano/organ duet
  by "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu>
Re: Black Hole Research
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Christmas piano/organ duet
  by <quilisma@cox.net>
Re: Christmas piano/organ duet - suggestion
  by <RMaryman@aol.com>
Re: tubular action
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re:IRC
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Felix' birthday
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
RE: Didn't work out.  Well, y'all tried.  Thanks.
  by "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com>
Re: Pipe Organs afloat
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Hybrid organs?
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Black Hole Research From: "Bill" <bill.hauser@cox.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 13:53:18 -0500     Hello,   The irony of your statement is that scientific research--including = space--has led to discoveries that in turn have led to medical = breakthroughs (not to mention new or improved organ-building materials).   It won't solve the problems of "global poverty, starvation...or [peace = in] the Middle East," but I would hardly call it "useless." One might = even argue that research has led to remedies for some of the problems = you mention, like starvation and disease.   Just a thought.       ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Arie Vandenberg=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: Re: New organ stop?     Funny, or puzzling at least, we seem to find out a lot of useless this =   about the universe, but we can't find out how solve global poverty,=20 starvation, get the peace in Iraq, or the middle east etc. Sometimes = I=20 think we have priorities in the wrong places.  
(back) Subject: RE: Exploding pneumatics From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:35:33 -0400   Andres Gunther agunther@centv.net   Before I start with my usual long comments:   > Pneumatics are a fascinating area for study, and I > even have a very technical book on the subject.   Colin, *please* don't tantalize us: How is the title of this book, who = wrote / edited it, is it still available or (god forbid) out of print?- Has it a ISBN number? I am making a book list right now to order when I go to Atlanta. Main interest: British and US-american organ history, design and systems. =3D=3D=3D Further on, Colin Mitchell wrote (in interesting and comprehensive way) :   > Pneumatic actions vary so MUCH from one type to > another. Some are depressingly slow to respond, but > may have good repetition. Others are like lightning, > but don't repeat quickly. A few....a very few....are > beautiful to the touch and perfectly adequate in speed > and repetition.   Adjustment, wind pressure (some organs have an own wind pressure for the action!), condition of the membranes and, very very important: Clean pallets, ducts, tubes and borings, plus top hermeticity of the = installation and pallet closing are highest critical to ensure an acceptable response - delay of these systems.   > re-leathering is a nightmare due to the complexity of > the exhaust action, and there are not many capable > pneumatic specialists still alive.   Yes, regretfully. I was raised in the neo barroque movement, when = pneumatics got "jeechs" and "booos" from organ builders. Fortunatedly we have a = couple of pneumatic organs here (Walcker-Laukhuff charge system and some = knock-off american exhaust systems) and I learned to manage them both as player as = as tech... Since in the U.S. the manufacture of PN / EP action organs was not significantly interrupted I guess that there are many active P.A. specialists. Please correct me if I am wrong...   > They even > developed an extremely clever pneumatic combination > mechanism which enabled variable stop combinations > actuated by combination pedals   The discovery of pneumatic actions enabled organ builders to build large organs in difficult locations without trouble and develope the stop crescendo "roller" and the first compact setteable stop combinations. (Cavaille-Coll's stop combination actions cannot be considered as = 'compact' in my opinion).   > In fact, the old Binns action of the famous Schulze > organ at St.Bartholemew's church Armley, close to > where I live in Yorkshire, finally expired after > something like a century. The pneumatic action is to > be re-made EXACTLY AS IT WAS.   Well done. Good pneumatic actions have a historic value today because they are so seldom.   > They even had a wonderful pneumatic cash > dispensing system in a local store, SNIP ETC   Out of topic: In Germany this was called "Rohrpost". In our local dept. stores this system is still in use, but works with Direct Electric Action <G> like the electric toy or model trains...   > I even had a car once which had an "organ type" > accelerator, operated by vacuum, and that was from > 1965!   My first car was a 1955 Pontiac with a pneumatic windshield wiper-washer. = I learned to drive "by feeling" every time I had to accelerate it in heavy rainfalls- and to "releather" the system because no spare parts were available! Now, Back to topic:   > I learned the next bit from Stephen Bicknell, (SNIP) > Apparently pipe-speech can be badly affected > by pneumatic actions, due to the "explosive" opening > of the windchest pneumatic motors, where air pressure > ensures that there is a very high level of immediately > available "torque" when the motor is exhausted. The > pallet collapses with quite a bang and this can > unsettle pipe-speech dramatically. This is a big > problem when organs were originally voiced for tracker > or barker-lever.   Stephen is right. If an action system is changed the pipes must be = revoiced. But with this the original tonal finish gets down the drain. Better: Don't change the system; NEVER change it if the organ has historic value- no matter how complicated, hencefore expensive its reconstruction or releathering will be.   A long time ago I read a statement alledgedly by Aristide Cavaille Coll = who recognized this "explosive" problem too. He compared the mech pallet = action (slider chest) with a servant who courteosly leds a guest out of a = mansion; the pneumatic action with a much less courteous servant and the electric action with a rude servant who throws the guest out. He referred to the = wind (as the guest) and the consequent tonal behaviour of the organ. = Regretfully I lost the journal issue with the exact quotation and cannot remember if = C-C referred only to the action type or to the pallet type (cone pallet?) too. For all this (and its critical manufacture, adjustment, maintenance and technical cons) the PN action was largely discontinued in Europe. BTW it's not resistant to hot and humid tropical climates and the very active small fauna there.       Cheers Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.    
(back) Subject: Re: New organ stop? From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:02:15 -0400   At 01:48 PM 2003-09-10 -0500, you wrote: >Hi, Arie: > >You wrote: > > > Funny, or puzzling at least, we seem to find out a lot > > of useless things about the universe, but we can't find > > out how solve global poverty, starvation, get the peace > > in Iraq, or the middle east etc. Sometimes I think we > > have priorities in the wrong places. > >...or we are too distracted, too unconcerned, or too >ignorant to want to be concerned with "real" priorities. > >F. Richard Burt >Dorian Organs > My biggest "real" priority right now is to sell an organ. I need to pay some bills.   Arie V.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263      
(back) Subject: RE: Pilar Cabrera & Bruges Cathedral (Mea Culpa) From: "Lefevre Vincent" <vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:05:24 +0200   Belgium is a very small country. Bruges is only 100 KM from Brussels. = Total distance from the coast to the east of our country is 300 KM. Vincent   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of = jch Sent: woensdag 10 september 2003 18:14 To: PipeChat   Somehow I confused Bruges with Brussels...thanks for clearing up my error.   Jon   At 05:52 PM 9/10/03 +0200, you wrote:   >Dear Jon, > >Gerhard Grenzing built an new organ for the BRUSSELS cathedral Sint Goedele, >which also has been played by Pilar Cabrera. Her concert is available on >internet. She mainly played works of Spanish composers. Ignace Michiels = is >indeed the house organist of the San Salvador Cathedral in Bruges. >If you need further information, please do not hesitate to ask for it. > >Vincent   "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: Hybrid organs? From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:50:55 -0400   Andres Gunther agunther@cantv.net   A hybrid organ may be...   A) an organ which is confomed by parts from several junked organs. B) an organ which is part UNIT part real stop-rank. C) an organ which has several kinds of actions and chests "in one system". D) an organ which is part digital part pipe. E) an organ which is part Harmonium part pipe (called "Poquilorgue"). F) an organ which has a 'hybrid' gasoline-electric-water blower motor. G) an organ which features *all* of that.   ....just kidding.   Andres =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D First was the cat, then was the Orgler. The Orgler got a pet and the cat got something to wonder about.   ----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Hoehn <thoehn@theatreorgans.com> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:44 AM Subject: Re: Definition of organ     > Just curious -- > > what would you call the instrument that I play in church since it is a > hybrid instrument? > > Tom Hoehn, Organist    
(back) Subject: Re: Black Hole Research From: "Arie Vandenberg" <ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 15:26:32 -0400   At 01:53 PM 2003-09-10 -0500, you wrote: > >Hello, > >The irony of your statement is that scientific research--including >space--has led to discoveries that in turn have led to medical >breakthroughs (not to mention new or improved organ-building materials). > >It won't solve the problems of "global poverty, starvation...or [peace = in] >the Middle East," but I would hardly call it "useless." One might even >argue that research has led to remedies for some of the problems you >mention, like starvation and disease. > >Just a thought. > Hi,   I suppose you are partly correct. Some space research has benefited mankind, but when one is determining stuff that is 250 million light years =   away, I think it is more the glamour aspect of what is out there, than fixing problems down here.   Just my thoughts..................   Arie V.   P.S. I was always taught that all sound and light got sucked into = oblivion in a black hole. Maybe something extraterrestrial, is causing this pulsing. Maybe the astronomers have had a little too much to drink and = are seeing things. By the way, out in space, does sound travel?   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Arie Vandenberg Classic Organbuilders ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com Tel.: 905-475-1263  
(back) Subject: Bradley Welch in Concert From: "F Richard Burt" <effarbee@verizon.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:36:17 -0500   Hello, PipeChatters: This is just a reminder that Bradley Welch will play the inaugural concert on our new American Classic organ in: The Reformed Church in Plano 5333 Independence Parkway Plano, Texas 75075 Sunday afternoon at 5:00 p.m. No admission, ...as in FREE. Bradley Welch won the most recent round of the Dallas International Organ Competition. He has selected an interesting and well rounded program. Plan to spend a time with us and enjoy some of the greatest of the classics, the finest in organ music.   Would love to see many of you there. Please take time to let me meet you. I will be the one tending the recorder. Appreciatively, F. Richard Burt Dorian Organs ..  
(back) Subject: Re: New organ stop? From: "David Evangelides" <davide@theatreorgans.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:37:15 -0500   I stand corrected. I incorrectly took 8' as the length of Middle C. so the pipe is shorter!   David E   David Evangelides Colorado Springs, Colorado     -----Original Message----- From: Alan Freed <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> To: PipeChat <pipechat@pipechat.org> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:43:23 -0400 Subject: Re: New organ stop?   > On 9/10/03 1:48 PM, "Bill" <bill.hauser@cox.net> wrote: > > > That's only about 46 octaves below middle C, assuming that middle C > is > > produced by a 2' pipe speaking at around 261 Hz. I came up with a > much longer > > pipe than you. > > > > What length did you use for middle C? > > > I thought it was a B-flat. See the article. I suppose the one just > below > middle-C. > > Alan (mean-tone?) > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Pilar Cabrera & Bruges Cathedral (Mea Culpa) From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:02:08 -0400   In a message dated 9/10/2003 3:05:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = vincent.lefevre@tiscali.be writes:   > Total distance from the coast to the east of our country is 300 > KM.   And a more beautiful 300 KM is hard to imagine!!! Particularly the area = around Houffalize.  
(back) Subject: Re: New organ stop? From: <OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:16:54 EDT   Don't you mean the 1,152,921,504,606,846,976' open wood???   - Christopher J. Howerter, SPC    
(back) Subject: Re: New organ stop? From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 14:29:18 -0700   Um, wouldn't that JUST about denude the PLANET of trees in order to BUILD it?   Tree-huggin' Bud   OrgelspielerKMD@aol.com wrote: > Don't you mean the 1,152,921,504,606,846,976' open wood??? > > - Christopher J. Howerter, SPC        
(back) Subject: Didn't work out. Well, y'all tried. Thanks. From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:37:48 -0400   Well, I heard from the fellow who needs a practice instrument.   He's on a LOT different career track from anything that would be helpful = to Christ Church--I think. He's on a self-taught improvisational track. = He's familiar with organs (having done some building and stuff), and is most UNkeen on tracker instruments. He's even MET our very own Walcker (when = he rehearsed for a while with a group that rehearses at St. Luke's--we have a lot of that kind of stuff going on).   So our organ is not right for him, and he's not right (I think) for Christ Church, either. Back to square one. I guess.   Glenda?   Alan    
(back) Subject: Two Pneumatic Instruments, Actions Retained From: "Mark Quarmby" <mark_quarmby@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 08:01:10 +1000   Malcolm Wechsler wrote:   > Does not the enormous Hill Organ in Sydney Town Hall retain its = Pneumatic > Action?   Yes, this is true. The only things to use electricity on the 5 manual console are the music and pedal lights.   Cheers,   Mark (who works next door to the Sydney Town Hall)    
(back) Subject: tubular action From: "First Christian Church of Casey, Illinois" <kzrev@rr1.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:06:09 -0500   I've never played a tubular, but the aging pneumatics I've played were slow as pond water.........depress a key, then go smoke a cigarette, get back in time to play another note, et. a.!   Dennis Steckley   Every gun that is made and every warship that is launched, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed--Dwight Eisenhower        
(back) Subject: Re: Black Hole Research From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:19:21 -0400   In a message dated 9/10/2003 3:26:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, = ArieV@ClassicOrgan.com writes:   > P.S. I was always taught that all sound and light got sucked into = oblivion in a black hole. Maybe something extraterrestrial, is causing = this pulsing. Maybe the astronomers have had a little too much to drink = and are seeing things. By the > way, out in space, does sound travel?   sound travels only through dense gas, as in an atmosphere on planets. in = space, gas molecules are too far apart for sound to travel through.   remember the ad for "alien" -- it said, "in space, no one can hear you = scream."   at least i think that was the movie...  
(back) Subject: Re: Bellevue and Tacoma, WA. Recital Announcement From: <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:23:56 +0200 (CEST)   Yes, Alan, it is Felix's birthday (No. 18!)   Alan Freed wrote: > On 9/10/03 12:29 PM, "Hell-Felix@t-online.de" > <Hell-Felix@t-online.de> > wrote: > > > PACIFIC LUTHERAN UNIVERSITY > > Tacoma/WA > > Sunday, September 14, 2004 > > Felix, I can't remember for sure, but isn't that your > BIRTHDAY? They'd > better have a big cake for you. > > I've alerted all my nieces and nephews (who live in that > area) to the > schedule; hope they'll have the pleasure of hearing and > meeting you. > > Alan Freed > St. Luke's, Manhattan > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & > related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >  
(back) Subject: Re: Bellevue and Tacoma, WA. Recital Announcement From: <BlueeyedBear@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 19:33:41 -0400   i think that's supposed to be 2003...  
(back) Subject: IRC From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:34:36 -0700   Lo! 'Tis Wednesday, thus announce we IRC; pray not it bounce thee Ere the gossip straight pronounce we.   Hie thee to the Pipechat Homepage; Read thou words of Internet Mage; Heedest thou fair David's words sage.   9 p.m.; the hour cometh Haste ye now, and be not dumbeth (grin) Neither miss ye, nor be bumeth (chuckle).   Yr. Humble Poet non Laureate            
(back) Subject: Christmas piano/organ duet From: "Eric McKirdy" <emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:06:40 -0700   Hello everyone,   I am looking for a nice, sacred piano/organ duet for Christmas. It doesn't have to be too easy, but shouldn't be horribly difficult -- my pianist is excellent, but doesn't have much time to practice between now and the end = of the year.   Any recommendations?   Eric -- nobody's ever going to yell at me about inappropriate subject = lines    
(back) Subject: Re: Black Hole Research From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:10:24 EDT   Hey Blue Eyes:   I think the astronomers are refering to the rerifaction of the wave. All things being equal there would be a sound of sorts if there was air to vibrate. The earth itself at the core resonates 33 octaves below middle C. How about an organ symphony using low color notes on the organ? Of course it would take light years to hear one cycle. Brahahahaha! Where is John Cage when you need him? Six feet under!   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas piano/organ duet From: <quilisma@cox.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 18:22:45 -0700   G. Schimer's old blue "Album of Piano and Organ Duets" (is that the name?) is still in print, and has all the standards, including a "Christmas Rhapsody" of some description.   Cheers,   Bud   Eric McKirdy wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I am looking for a nice, sacred piano/organ duet for Christmas. It = doesn't > have to be too easy, but shouldn't be horribly difficult -- my pianist = is > excellent, but doesn't have much time to practice between now and the = end of > the year. > > Any recommendations? > > Eric -- nobody's ever going to yell at me about inappropriate subject = lines > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >        
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas piano/organ duet - suggestion From: <RMaryman@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:18:56 EDT   In a message dated 9/10/2003 8:57:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu writes:     > I am looking for a nice, sacred piano/organ duet for Christmas. It = doesn't > have to be too easy, but shouldn't be horribly difficult -- my pianist = is > excellent, but doesn't have much time to practice between now and the = end of > the year. > > Any recommendations? >   How about an organ/piano duet of Pietro Yon's "gesu Bambino" - perhaps the =   most overly-done christmas composition arranged for anything and = everything from Kazoo chorus to SSAATTBB with Orchestral acomps. (just kidding, but = couldn't resist the tongue-in-cheek suggestion). It's appropriate to christmas = (quoting "O Come Lte Us Adore Him _(Adeste fidelis) ) and probably just about sight-readable for any competant pianist.   Rick in VA    
(back) Subject: Re: tubular action From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:21:07 EDT   Dennis:   What you say is true, but they were supposed to be fast repeaters when new or rebuilt. Some systems were leaky during dry air seasons and therefore slow. Unless I miss my guess, where the tubular Pneumatic worked was the UK and may have been invented to work there. The air is almost never dry. it would be interesting to get some confirmation about that. The sea surrounds the UK and no place farther from the sea than 100-150 miles. That's what I surmise. You brought up an interesting point.   Colin?   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re:IRC From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:28:44 -0400   Well, Bud, where are you?   Bob    
(back) Subject: Felix' birthday From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:39:36 -0400   HANS-FRIEDRICH: YOU MUST NOT READ THIS.   Group: I don't know whether anyone wants to wish a Happy Birthday to = Felix Hell or not, but if you do, I asked his dad (who's forbidden to read this post, and thinking it's this coming Sunday), and he replied   Dear Alan,   yes, on Sunday, September 14, will be Felix's birthday. He will turn 18 then, which means for Germany "Volljaehrig" (Legally full resposible age = =3D age of majority).   September is another memorable month this year:   On September 22, 1993 (10 years ago!) Felix had his first organ lesson.   <Hell-Concerts@t-online.de> will reach him/them   Feel free to copy to the Albany list. Or any other.   So you may or may not want to wish him the best on either or both of these days.   Alan    
(back) Subject: RE: Didn't work out. Well, y'all tried. Thanks. From: "Glenda" <gksjd85@direcway.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 20:55:18 -0500   I've been practicing this week - Vierne, Mendelssohn, Elgar, Bach, and Dale Wood (some combination, I know) - but need a plane to get me up there every week. I hadn't touched the organ in a couple months, and it's nice to get back. I miss it.   Seriously, wish I were close enough to help.   Glenda Sutton gksjd85@direcway.com     -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org] On Behalf Of Alan Freed   So our organ is not right for him, and he's not right (I think) for Christ Church, either. Back to square one. I guess.   Glenda?          
(back) Subject: Re: Pipe Organs afloat From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:02:48 -0500   Oh! I dont think so. Rather it is more likely to "crown thy good with brotherhood from C to shining C#."   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill" <bill.hauser@cox.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Pipe Organs afloat   The only intonation problem might be that the organ could be hopelessly = lost at C.        
(back) Subject: Re: Hybrid organs? From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 21:10:29 -0500   And don't forget the Claviorganum -- part organ and part harpsichord.   John Speller   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andr=E9s G=FCnther" <agunther@cantv.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 2:50 PM Subject: Hybrid organs?     > Andres Gunther > agunther@cantv.net > > A hybrid organ may be... > > A) an organ which is confomed by parts from several junked organs. > B) an organ which is part UNIT part real stop-rank. > C) an organ which has several kinds of actions and chests "in one = system". > D) an organ which is part digital part pipe. > E) an organ which is part Harmonium part pipe (called "Poquilorgue"). > F) an organ which has a 'hybrid' gasoline-electric-water blower motor. > G) an organ which features *all* of that.