PipeChat Digest #3953 - Thursday, September 11, 2003
RE: Wilbur Snapp
  by "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
RE: New organ stop?
  by "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net>
Re: Christmas piano/organ duet
  by <Steskinner@aol.com>
Re: Christmas piano/organ duet
  by "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com>
Re: My Trip to Bruges
  by <RonSeverin@aol.com>
Re: Definition of organ
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: Dictionary definitions
  by "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net>
Re: tubular action
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>
RE: Exploding pneumatics
  by "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk>

(back) Subject: RE: Wilbur Snapp From: "andrew meagher" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:54:19 -0400   I knew a music director in a Catholic Church that played the hymn "He Touched Me" on a Sunday when the priest preached about the pedophile priests..lol   Andrew   -----Original Message----- From: pipechat@pipechat.org [mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org]On Behalf Of Randolph Runyon Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 10:47 AM To: PipeChat Subject: Re: Wilbur Snapp     on 9/10/03 10:28 AM, Colin Mitchell at cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk wrote:   > > Could we now have a pipechat "confessional"? > > Three "Hail Mary's" and two "Our father's" for the > winning "sinner".     I typically play the children out after the children's sermon, since the service is broadcast on a local radio station and the powers that be wish there to be no "dead time" on the air. I try when possible to choose a = tune that is related to the children's sermon, but never know what the sermon will be in advance. A couple of weeks ago, it had something to do with making sure one gets to Sunday School on time, so naturally I played "Get = Me to the Church on Time." Maybe half-a-dozen people got the joke. Trouble is, the song begins with "I'm getting married in the morning," so I was hoping they would ignore that and focus on the more relevants words that follow. I played it on the Krummhorn so it would be sure to get their attention.   Another time I played, with no specific refernence to the sermon, just as = a snappy march, "Hooray for Captain Spaulding." That brought some titters, = as people associated it with the 1950s television quiz show hosted by Groucho Marx.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu     "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org      
(back) Subject: RE: New organ stop? From: "Michael David" <michaelandmaggy@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:05:25 -0500   Not so funny or puzzling. One is a matter of intellectual curiosity, the others are political issues.       ----- Original Message ----- From: Arie Vandenberg To: PipeChat Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:56 PM Subject: Re: New organ stop?     Funny, or puzzling at least, we seem to find out a lot of useless this about the universe, but we can't find out how solve global poverty, starvation, get the peace in Iraq, or the middle east etc. Sometimes I think we have priorities in the wrong places.  
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas piano/organ duet From: <Steskinner@aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:34:32 EDT   In a message dated 9/10/2003 8:57:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, emckirdy@gladstone.uoregon.edu writes:   > I am looking for a nice, sacred piano/organ duet for Christmas.   I think the title is "Christmas Fantasy" by Callahan. Fabulous!   Steven Skinner First Presbyterian Church of the Covenant Erie, PA    
(back) Subject: Re: Christmas piano/organ duet From: "Sand Lawn" <glawn@jam.rr.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:32:08 -0500   I second the Callahan "Christmas Fantasy" as a great piece for Pianor = and Organ during the Christmas season....had just picked it up this = afternoon before I saw this message.   Sand      
(back) Subject: Re: My Trip to Bruges From: <RonSeverin@aol.com> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:08:44 EDT   Hi Vincent:   What was the name of the biggest church in Bruges? I was only there a few hours on tour, but I saw a gigantic church and bell tower. Someone said it was dedicated to Mary. That's obviously not the one you describe, can you help me fill in the blank. The organist of Bordeaux Cathedral was there at San Salvadores to play an evening concert which I had to miss. He was setting pistons and a docent told me I could go up stairs and meet him. I did, both he and his wife who spoke some English, and we got on well. He invited me to play for him. I had no music so I improvised. He was impressed that Americans could indeed improvise and asked me if I had studied in France. I had to demure and say no, but I do listen to a lot of French music. I just embellished a short Gregorian Theme building until I was at full organ. Both were very gracious and soon left for their lunch. I was very exceited with the = activity and love for the pipe organ that Europeans obviously have.   Bruges is a very charming city, that I would love to visit again. The people are very friendly and outgoing. The food was wonderful and the Bruges tipple a delight.   On the trip onto the continent I noticed that the archtecture in Normandy was decidedly English up to about 100 miles in. Then I realized that England occupied this land during the lifetime of St. Joan of Arc. It's fascinating when these revelations hit home. The churches especially looked more like Norman English. As we got farther along they took on a decidedly more gothic form, built taller, and much more pitch to the roof. I also detected some German influence too.   Ron Severin    
(back) Subject: Re: Definition of organ From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:29:18 -0400   It is an organ. -WG   >Mr. Hoehn asked: > >Just curious -- what would you call the instrument that I play in church >since it is a hybrid instrument? http://www.nauticom.net  
(back) Subject: Re: Dictionary definitions From: "Walter Greenwood" <walterg@nauticom.net> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 03:34:17 -0400   Colin, you don't know? It was from the U.K., after all. Twelve mice arranged linearly in a box, trained to squeak the notes of "The Bells of St. Mary's" when struck by a large hammer. (a Monty Python sketch)   -WG   "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > >Hello, > >A mouse organ? > >Tell us about it! > >Regards, > >Colin Mitchell UK > > >--- Walter Greenwood <walterg@nauticom.net> wrote: >> I just love stirring up a good fuss. Then, of >> course, there was Terry Jones' mouse organ, but >> let's not go there. http://www.nauticom.net  
(back) Subject: Re: tubular action From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:53:26 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   We have the occasional draught here in the UK, and I can never recall that it affected the pneumatic actions I have played.   The repetition thing I would have to research a bit, but the exhaust systems were probably fastest of all, but required very careful design and properly set-up "bleeds" in the action run.   The problem nowadays is that few people know a lot about them, but Harrison & Harrison are certainly working on the Binns pneumatic system for Armley and will doubtless come up with the goods.   Interestingly, one of the best London church organs is St.Augustine, Kilburn, where I was O & C for a while. Harrison & Harrison re-built this instrument between the wars but continued to use the charge pneumatic motors from what apears to have been the old Willis barker-lever......probably unique in the history of the Harrison company. The repetition was quite poor, but the initial response was good. Of course, not being an exhaust pneumatic, the key touch was beautiful, as most charge systems are.   Ron is absolutely right, in that the UK builders (and some of the Balgian/Dutch street organ manufacturers) developed pneumatic systems to a very high degree of sophistication, and some of the designs are very elegant bits of kit.   In fact, I would go so far as to state that the BEST pneumatic actions are on a par with electro-pneumatic or even electric action instruments, but of course, when they start to go wrong or get old, not only do they present service problems and key response problems, the cost of refurbishment is enormous.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       --- RonSeverin@aol.com wrote: > Dennis: > > What you say is true, but they were supposed to be > fast repeaters > when new or rebuilt. Some systems were leaky during > dry air > seasons and therefore slow. Unless I miss my guess, > where the > tubular Pneumatic worked was the UK and may have > been invented > to work there. The air is almost never dry   __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com  
(back) Subject: RE: Exploding pneumatics From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:35:09 -0700 (PDT)   Hello,   I cannot answer all Andres questions without some effort.   However, the Binns patent stop combination system was anything but compact. It actually pushed out and drew in quite large stops using pneumatic motors. The clever bit was the use of wooden squares to "set" the selected combinations using auxillary pneumatics in addition to the main motor.   I cannot possibly explain it in words, but I believe that W L Sumner had a drawing of it in "The Organ". If not, then it is some other book which I probably still have.   I may well have to reply privately to Andre about all this....it could take time!   It is so easy to quote things from memory, but a very different matter to quote the exact sources of that acquired knowledge.   Regards,   Colin Mitchell UK       __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com