PipeChat Digest #3994 - Friday, September 19, 2003
 
Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Hurricane Isabel
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net>
Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.)
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Disney Hall
  by "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
THE Malotte
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.)
  by "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net>
Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.)
  by "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca>
Re: Huge Specifications
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Re: Stop Controls!
  by "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net>
Malotte's pater noster
  by "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu>
Re: Riverside Church, which is NOT an Aeolian-Skinner
  by <ahremsen40@aol.com>
IRC Reminder
  by "Administrator" <admin@pipechat.org>
Learning from Disney & Tully
  by <TubaMagna@aol.com>
Malotte's Our Father
  by <RVScara@aol.com>
RE: Musical standards
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: Riverside Church, which is NOT an Aeolian-Skinner
  by "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com>
hmmm, must be the part about liking sheep.....
  by <ContraReed@aol.com>
Organ Crawl Tomorrow In DeKalb, Illinois
  by <Devon3000@aol.com>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com>
Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.)
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: THE Malotte
  by <Keys4bach@aol.com>
Re: Organ Crawl Tomorrow In DeKalb, Illinois
  by <Gfc234@aol.com>
Re: PLAYing Music vs. present-ing music
  by <ProOrgo53@aol.com>
Overture Hall, Madison, WI
  by "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:51:01 -0400   On 9/19/03 4:38 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote:   > We sing Malotte every once in a while.   I=B9m restraining myself.   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Hurricane Isabel From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:57:49 -0400   On 9/19/03 4:45 PM, "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> wrote:   > would be curious to hear how everyone in its path was affected by the > hurricane. I know there are many fine organs out there, and watching the > hurricane on the RADAR the other day, gave me concern for all.   One has to appreciate that. I doubt VERY much that there was any = structural damage to churches or organs north of D.C. Now, on the Carolina coast, = I'm less sure--but I haven't heard anything terrible. (The insurance = companies are rejoicing; it could have cost them a BUNDLE.)   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:06:08 -0500   At 09:36 AM 9/19/2003 -0700, Colin wrote: >BUT....... > >What is/was the purpose of HUGE specifications? > >Were they musically inspired, or simply a political >statement?     Hi Colin --   I'd submit, at least in the case of Atlantic City, that it was both -- an attempt at a musical political statement.   "We can do it bigger/better than anyone else can..." and all that. ;-)   The early decades of the 1900's were a fascinating time of invention, discovery, and mechanical ingenuity...   Cheers, Tim    
(back) Subject: Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.) From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:07:54 -0400   At 05:51 PM 9/19/03 -0400, it was written:   >On 9/19/03 4:38 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote: > >We sing Malotte every once in a while. > > >Im restraining myself. > >Alan   Alan,   I am curious enough as to ask why you feel the need to restrain yourself! = <g>   Bob Conway        
(back) Subject: Disney Hall From: "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:24:43 -0500   Regarding the Disney Hall organ, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE, the design! It's original, creative, whimsical, and hopefully people will have fun with it. =   It's "thinking outside the box" at its finest.   There's always room for fun, isn't there? After all, do we know of anyone that appreciates NOT having fun? Or is that a contradictory term?   Hopefully, the design will put the organ in the national spotlight for awhile and inspire non organ enthusiasts to take at least a passing = interest in it and visit their local churches or concert halls for more pipe organ listening pleasure..   And maybe we will hear a few Disney tunes on the thing. Although I'm not intimately familiar with "Fantasia", I think that would be a good start, = to write an organ accompaniment to.   Mike Franch in Madison, WI   _________________________________________________________________ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com    
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:50:35 -0400   As hard as it is for us to contemplate at this remove, this was also a = time when Income Tax did not exist! Hallelujah. Where did we go wrong?   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Bovard" <tmbovard@earthlink.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:06 PM Subject: Re: Atlantic City     > At 09:36 AM 9/19/2003 -0700, Colin wrote: > >BUT....... > > > >What is/was the purpose of HUGE specifications? > > > >Were they musically inspired, or simply a political > >statement? > > > Hi Colin -- > > I'd submit, at least in the case of Atlantic City, that it was both -- = an > attempt at a musical political statement. > > "We can do it bigger/better than anyone else can..." and all that. ;-) > > The early decades of the 1900's were a fascinating time of invention, > discovery, and mechanical ingenuity... > > Cheers, Tim >      
(back) Subject: THE Malotte From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:59:08 -0400   Dear List and Bob,   I feel as Bob does on this, but you can be sure I have not always done. = I have always kept in the closet the fact that I was somehow moved by = this piece by a Disney musician, but my appreciation moved up = exponentially when I visited one of Charlie Lester's churches in Los = Angeles, and at a point in the service, the people on either side of me = reached for one of my hands, and off we went, singing the Malotte gently = at first, and then building a most wonderful crescendo to the end. I was = totally dissolved. It truly was a powerful experience for me, and for = everyone, for that matter. I think they do that every week. So now you = know! I love a good cry!   I hope Alan will still talk to me.   Cheers,   Malcolm Wechsler www.mander-organs.com=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Bob Conway=20 To: PipeChat=20 Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:07 PM Subject: Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.)=20     At 05:51 PM 9/19/03 -0400, it was written:     On 9/19/03 4:38 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote:     We sing Malotte every once in a while.       Im restraining myself.   Alan=20   Alan,=20   I am curious enough as to ask why you feel the need to restrain = yourself! <g>   Bob Conway        
(back) Subject: Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.) From: "Alan Freed" <acfreed0904@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:09:12 -0400   On 9/19/03 6:07 PM, "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote:   > I am curious enough as to ask why you feel the need to restrain yourself!= <g>   Tee hee, Bob. You=B9re a mean guy. You=B9re forcing me to say what I really think of Malotte=B9s =B3Improvement.=B2 Well, OK, it has just too many notes. The first three are OK, but he should have left it at that. (More on request.) (No, not more notes; just more [attempts at] smart-aleck remarks= )   Alan    
(back) Subject: Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.) From: "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:17:18 -0400   At 07:09 PM 9/19/03 -0400, Alan wrote:   >On 9/19/03 6:07 PM, "Bob Conway" <conwayb@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >I am curious enough as to ask why you feel the need to restrain yourself! = <g> > > >Tee hee, Bob. Youre a mean guy. Youre forcing me to say what I really >think of Malottes Improvement. Well, OK, it has just too many notes. The =   >first three are OK, but he should have left it at that. (More on >request.) (No, not more notes; just more [attempts at] smart-aleck = remarks) > >Alan   Alan,   I am with you there, (not necessarly with the Mallotte), - but with a lot of other music.   I can play the first three notes of the Bach Toccata and Fugue in D minor BWV 565 - if only he had left it there!   Maybe I should have really tried to play an organ!   Bob        
(back) Subject: Re: Huge Specifications From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:45:12 -0400   >What is/was the purpose of HUGE specifications?   Good evening all,   All I have to say is, as far as Atlantic City is concerned, the full organ sound makes it worthwhile to me. That organ really belts it out. = Not in the sense of pure obnoxious volume but rather the full organ chorus (or at least what can be heard right now) is very full and glorious.   One thing I would say about it is no, it's not your typical sounding organ, which I think is one of it's strengths. It has enough stoppage to play normal literature but it has plenty of unique voices to play more = jazzy or modern cheesy American music (from a musical or something like that). Types of music that would be taboo to play on any other standard issue organ. For that reason I think it is ideally suited for the task it never really got to perform.   At any rate, I love the instrument for what it is, and would like to spend time with it and help it out someday.   = -Nate   "The Apprentice"   By the way, the ACCH organ sound bears a strong resemblance to the organ that plays the Theme music to the old Vincent Price movie "The Abominable Dr. Phibes", doesn't it?      
(back) Subject: Re: Stop Controls! From: "Bigaquarium" <Bigaquarium@netzero.net> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:52:31 -0400   >Like Wanamaker's? I suppose for an organ as large as that, it's the only style that could possibly put enough controls within reach, simply a question of density.   Hello again chatters,   The Freiburg console was no where near as big (even though it controls all 4 organs). However it appeared to have strange switch-type stop devices, not tabs, not necessarily rockers either. Does anyone have the low-down on it?   = -Nate   "The Apprentice"      
(back) Subject: Malotte's pater noster From: "Randolph Runyon" <runyonr@muohio.edu> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:53:08 -0400   on 9/19/03 6:07 PM, Bob Conway at conwayb@sympatico.ca wrote:   At 05:51 PM 9/19/03 -0400, it was written:   On 9/19/03 4:38 PM, "Keys4bach@aol.com" <Keys4bach@aol.com> wrote:   We sing Malotte every once in a while.     Im restraining myself.   Alan   Alan,   I am curious enough as to ask why you feel the need to restrain yourself! <g>   Bob Conway         Malotte is to religious music what Warner Sallman is to religious = painting.     Randy Runyon Music Director Zion Lutheran Church Hamilton, Ohio runyonr@muohio.edu        
(back) Subject: Re: Riverside Church, which is NOT an Aeolian-Skinner From: <ahremsen40@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 19:58:02 EDT   Dear Malcom and List Members,   I would like to point out that an organ that has had all of it's principal =   choruses replaced, most of the reeds replaced or revoiced, and even some = of the "slush" replaced or revoiced, is no longer an Aeolian-Skinner! The same obtains for the Chancel Organ in St. Thomas Church on 5th Ave. Both of = these organs are glorious now, in the original they were crudely voiced, dull, and = grim, grim, grim!   Allan Remsen  
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(back) Subject: Learning from Disney & Tully From: <TubaMagna@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:08:52 EDT   On occasion, in Alice Tully Hall, the rear of the stage is opened up = to reveal the large Theo Kuhn organ spanning the width of the back wall. It = is in a traditional arrangement, with highly burnished facade pipes for the = Great, flanking Pedal towers, and Positiv, plus an entire Brustwerk behind = folding doors for all to behold. The Swell enclosure shutters are visible to the audience, too. MORE THAN ONCE in the past decade, I have heard, "I don't remember = that sculpture being there last time." To us organists and builders, it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, = so it must be a duck. To the uninitiated, it remained the ONLY visual = interest in an otherwise drab hall, with an interior resembling a humidor, and = known more for its chamber sound and its very spacious seating design than its architecture. Some recent concert hall pipe organs have sported cases with fine materials and well-made pipes, and fit in sweetly with the trend of = concert hall interiors to which we have grown accustomed. Are they beautiful? And = they daring and exciting? How often are they really NEITHER of those, but we bias our =   evaluation based upon the excitement of a pipe organ in a public, secular = venue? Of all people, artists are most sensitive to the emotional conflict of =   wanting to fit in with the crowd, yet be acknowledged as unique. True = artists have always left conformity by the wayside -- except, apparently, in this = case. Has the architect not done us a service, by making the Disney organ the = most dramatic single visual element in a visually demanding and controversial = hall? It is quite a victory that the organ eclipses the architecture! The silliest part of this subject is that what is important is the = sound of the organ -- what's inside, what comes of out it, what it can do. I = think Mr. Rosales' tonal abilities do, and will, speak for themselves. And for = those who have played and heard his instruments in the flesh, there is no comparison between a recording and the overwhelming experience of what his = talent can do to organ pipes. None of us likes to be judged negatively about our physical = appearance. Why do so with a pipe organ, especially one that really HAS been = thoughtfully conceived and so beautifully executed? Take a look at the organ again; you = may find, as you can with even the oddest looking people, that if you look at = it long enough, you can find SOMETHING attractive about it.   Sebastian M. Gluck New York City ..  
(back) Subject: Malotte's Our Father From: <RVScara@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:36:16 EDT   Started this over 10 years ago in my RC parish and had to overcome = objections of a few parishioners, but mostly clergy, who said we could not use "that =   Protestant Our Father" at a Catholic Mass. My response was that if we had = added the words "For Thine is.....," albeit after a very short prayer following = the old standard RC Our Father, why couldn't we sing it! When I asked about = the liturgical acceptability of playing, and even singing, Danny Boy" at = certain funerals and around St. Patrick's Day, Malotte's became acceptable, too.   It has become the best sung hymn in our services. We use it at least once = a month and definitely on major feasts. Yes, softly at first and then they raise the rafters. Makes me feel like I'm back playing a Protestant = service where the singing was always like that. I've been told not to play it = elsewhere, tho, as it is still considered taboo by many priests. God help Us!    
(back) Subject: RE: Musical standards From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 08:38:34 +0800   Yes, what is "concert grade" music? Bach? IN St George's Cathedral in Perth there was an organist, many years ago who invariably played a Bach Prelude and Fugue as a recessional and many people stayed to the end in order to listen to it. It was certainly not "over their heads".. Personally I play what I want to play and like playing and I have had no complaints so far. Bob Elms.   ---- Original Message ---- From: PEMMONS@wcupa.edu To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: RE: Musical standards Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:24:29 -0400   >Ron Severin writes: > >> There are people who claim high standards, play concert grade >music for services, which is fine by the way, but over the heads of >the congregation. I suggest that these try the concert circuit >to get a taste of things. Most congregations are looking to their >organist to play worshipful, simple music they can understand, that >touches their soul, and opens it to worship God. Playing the heavy >liturature in the ordinary parish church, may support the ego of the >organist, but turn the >congregation off. > >I agree in part and disagree in part. > >What is "concert grade music?" >"Pipe Up and Be Heard!" >P > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Riverside Church, which is NOT an Aeolian-Skinner From: "M Fox" <ophicleide16@direcway.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 17:55:19 -0700     ----- Original Message ----- From: <ahremsen40@aol.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 4:58 PM Subject: Re: Riverside Church, which is NOT an Aeolian-Skinner > I would like to point out that an organ that has had all of it's = principal > choruses replaced, most of the reeds replaced or revoiced, and even some of the > "slush" replaced or revoiced, is no longer an Aeolian-Skinner! The same > obtains for the Chancel Organ in St. Thomas Church on 5th Ave. Both of these organs > are glorious now, in the original they were crudely voiced, dull, and grim, > grim, grim!   Oh my. At times I'm as given to hyperbole as, say, the average Bush administration official, but having heard both of those instruments before too much had changed from their G. Donald Harrison state, I dispute = "crudely voiced, dull, and grim."   The more important differences lie in what has happened to the acoustics = of their churches. Riverside -- never the best of Aeolian-Skinners -- is undoubtedly better sounding now than then, irrespective of acoustics (although the Trompeta on the south -- er, west -- wall is a world-class horror), but I'm not sure St. Thomas is a whit better as an instrument.   Maybe I could tolerate "crudely voiced," given that GDH died during finishing. But "dull" and "grim" won't pass muster here.   MAF    
(back) Subject: hmmm, must be the part about liking sheep..... From: <ContraReed@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:08:56 EDT   While the article is kind of a sleeper, the subject line is a giggle when you read the first few paragraphs (think the chorus "All We Like Sheep"). --------- Forwarded message ---------- from Robert Levine/Milwaukee Symphony   i-Tunes labels Handel's 'Messiah' as explicit   By MATTHEW FORDAHL AP TECHNOLOGY WRITER September 18, 2003     SAN JOSE, Calif. (AP) - George Frideric Handel has at least one thing in common with Eminem and other modern artists: his music has been slapped = with an "explicit" warning at Apple Computer Inc.'s online iTunes Music Store.   The baroque composer's 1742 masterpiece, "The Messiah," is marked with the =   red warning that indicates the content might not be appropriate for young children or others with sensitive tastes. It's on a recording by the = London Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by John Alldis.   The warning, which appeared when the album's tracks were made available Tuesday, is most likely a technical mix-up, though "The Messiah" does = touch on love, violence and death - in a more profound way than, say, most music = produced 260 years later.   An Apple spokeswoman did not return phone calls seeking comment on the holiday favorite's labeling. Giacomo Puccini's "Tosca," like other juicy = classics, doesn't carry the advisory despite a plot that includes murder and = suicide.   The online music store, which is now available only to owners of Macintosh =   computers, has been criticized in some circles for focusing more on pop = music than classical or operatic fare. It's often difficult, also, to find out = who is conducting a piece or the names of soloists.   Apple recently introduced a friendlier classical home page that breaks = down albums by periods such as early music, baroque, romantic and modern. It = also has a category for opera.   Apple's iTunes Music Store has sold more than 10 million songs at 99 cents =   each since its April 28 launch, and is central to Apple's strategy to = promote its computers as digital entertainment hubs.  
(back) Subject: Organ Crawl Tomorrow In DeKalb, Illinois From: <Devon3000@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:28:02 EDT   Don't know whether someone else has mentioned it, but the "happening" AGO Chapter, Fox Falley, Illinois, is having a neat organ crawl tomorrow = morning. Schedule as follows:   8:45 a.m. Refreshments and gathering at First Lutheran 9:00 a.m. First Lutheran - Berghaus Organ 1993 3/49 9:40 a.m. St. Mary's Catholic Church - Howell Organ 1969 3/49 10:20 a.m. First Methodist - Berghaus Organ - 2001 3/30? 11:15 a.m. NIU Concert Hall - Martin Ott Organ opus 17, 1983 3/63 (If ever finished, missing Ruckpositiv) Also Two practice organs, Zimmer 2M and Flentrop 2M 12:15 p.m. Salem Lutheran in Sycamore - Howell Organ 1970 Opus 1022 2/24 with Walker digital additions in 2002 1:20 p.m. Lunch at Culver's (this is worth the morning alone!)   We're also looking forward to a great master class this coming Monday at = 3:30 p.m. with Craig Cramer, before his evening concert on the magnificent Casavant at Wheaton College in Wheaton, Illinois that evening.   You all are invited to attend these events.   Devon Hollingsworth  
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "John L. Speller" <jlspeller@mindspring.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:40:49 -0500   Colin Mitchell wrote:   >Hello, > >I hate discussing size for the sake of it. > >However, the Atlantic City Midmer-Losh is SO enormous >and SO musically excessive, it is difficult to be >neutral about it. > It is not all that enormous when you consider the size of the building it is in -- about ten times the size of the Royal Albert Hall in London.      
(back) Subject: Re: Pastoral authority in liturgy (Luth.) From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:41:32 EDT   In a message dated 9/19/2003 6:09:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, conwayb@sympatico.ca writes:   > am curious enough as to ask why you feel the need to restrain yourself! = <g> > > > Bob Conway > > >   Hear hear Bob, come clean Father Alan.....   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: THE Malotte From: <Keys4bach@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:45:50 EDT   In a message dated 9/19/2003 7:00:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time, manderusa@earthlink.net writes:   > Malotte gently at first, and then building a most wonderful crescendo to =   > the end. I was totally dissolved. It truly was a powerful experience for = me, > and for everyone, for that matter. I think they do that every week. So = now you > know! I love a good cry! > >   they want to do it every week....   It is my theory that everyone in my church if given the opportunity to = sing ONE solo in their life---this would be choice number one for most if not = all.   slush is good---strings a wailing, growing to tutti then back to the = softest.   DRAMA at the keyboard and vocal chords(!).   Oh boy---concert quality music indeed.   dale in Florida    
(back) Subject: Re: Organ Crawl Tomorrow In DeKalb, Illinois From: <Gfc234@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:48:38 EDT   I got my undergrad at NIU and spent 4 years playing the Ott every day. If =   anyone is in the area, I suggest that you go and play it-its a = joy-especially the plenum. And its got those huge, easy to use stop knobs that I = referred to the other day. There is a photo and spec on the Martin Ott = website-however-the spec is a little off- there IS a 16' prestant in the pedal, part of it is = the facade in the pedal towers Fun Fun Fun.   Gregory    
(back) Subject: Re: PLAYing Music vs. present-ing music From: <ProOrgo53@aol.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:55:35 EDT   My response is that, indeed, I am present-ing; I am sharing with the congregation and with God the best of which I am capable at that moment, which is what a presentation usually strives to be. Dale G. Rider U . S. A.    
(back) Subject: Overture Hall, Madison, WI From: "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 21:41:41 -0500   Here are details of the new Pleasant Rowland Concert Organ. Ms. Rowland is =   from the American Girl Doll Collection. The highlight of the organ will be =   its totally movable design, being stored in a "garage" behind the stage = when not in use.   I've included a link with the fact sheet. There is a photo, unfortunately, =   I'm not able to find it on the site right now.   Dedication is set for late 2004. They will be dedicating an entire week to =   the organ and are seeking organists of native or local origin as well as nationally known artists.   http://www.overturefoundation.org/pressnews/pr2002.php?id=3D9   Mike Franch Madison, WI   _________________________________________________________________ Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get = Hotmail Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=3Dfeatures/es