PipeChat Digest #3996 - Saturday, September 20, 2003
 
Re: Generals and Hymn registration
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: Malotte
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Generals and Hymn registration
  by <Pologaptommy@aol.com>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au>
Re: Overture Hall, Madison, WI
  by "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net>
Re: Atlantic City
  by "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de>
 

(back) Subject: Re: Generals and Hymn registration From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:32:35 EDT   I normally keep registration simple, and I try not to waste the = pistons on hymns. I keep the pistons for Opening Voluntary, Offertories, Anthems, =   Prelude/Postlude or things such as that. I only have 5 Generals and 5 Divisionals. I start by hand registering the "basic" fundamental stops. I = usually introduce the hymn and play the first verse on the principal chorus + = mixture, then drop down to principals 8, 4, and 2, with Swell 8' and 4' flutes and strings coupled to the great, with the shutters closed. Usually on the = final verse of the hymn, particularly if it is a hymn that would benefit from a = lofty ending, I will add the mixture back to chorus, and use the swell to build = to a larger ending if needed. There is a small trumpet on the Great that can = be added, however it is used with much discretion. Luckily, this can all be done with just a quick flip of a tab or two, =   and really doesn't require the use of pistons, so that I do save them for = the more important times during the service. I suppose if I had more stops to = deal with I would use pistons, but I feel that this registration could = basically be used on any organ. I personally feel that several registration changes during a hymn, special "fanfares" between verse of a hymn, and keys changes and = modulations may sound nice, but can be confusing to the congregation at times. So I try = to keep it simple and let the congregation do the singing. On occasion I = will have a key change, particularly if the song is more than 3 or 4 verses. This is all subject to change, and would not fit every moment during = a service, but it works for our congregation during the majority of hymn = singing. Even on a small organ there are endless possibilities with the use of the =   16' and 4' inter, and intra-manual couplers. For instance I use = principals 8, 4, and 2 with the 4' great to great, for the singing of the Gloria Patri. = I do believe that the start of a good hymn registration is a good, solid foundation.   Josh White    
(back) Subject: Re: Malotte From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:45:09 -0400   ----- Original Message ----- From: "First Christian Church of Casey, IL" <kzrev@rr1.net> To: "PipeChat" <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2003 12:44 AM Subject: Malotte     > In other words, Randy, it speaks powerfully to millions of folk while = the > intelligentsia puts it down! ;>) > > As Abraham Lincoln said, "God must have loved the common man--He made so > many of them." > > Dennis Steckley > & A Six-Pack of Cats > ________   Well, Mr. Six Pack, this <bona fide> card carrying member of "the intelligentsia" not only does not put Malotte down, but he also is quite capable of being moved by the piece, under the right circumstances.   My goodness, look at the clock!   Good night!   Malcolm Wechsler      
(back) Subject: Re: Generals and Hymn registration From: <Pologaptommy@aol.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:45:47 EDT   I thought I might add, that our United Methodist Hymnal has a vast supply = of different styles of hymns, and I don't think our congregation really has "favorites." However, like most congregations "Amazing Grace" seems to be = popular, even though we only sing it about once a year. And its such a shame that some of my personal favorite tunes are only used on Ash Wednesday and = Easter. LOL Should I bring up the subject of playing with small orchestras for Christmas, Easter and other such times? My normal registrations do NOT = work when playing orchestras, or brass quartets. In fact, it seems, at least from = the console, that not even full organ can be heard above the instrumentalists. = Should the the organ be an "accompanying" instrument when playing with orchestras, or should the organ still be in the lead? We tend to hire orchestras or brass 3-4 times a year, and I always encounter the same problem. Thanks, Josh White    
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "bobelms" <bobelms@westnet.com.au> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 14:06:18 +0800   Possibly the most important factor is the use to whch the organ is being put. What use is being made of the AC organ, and what use has been made of it in the last 30 years?   Locally a North German style so called neo classic organ was put in a concert hall. It cannot be heard above an orchestra or a large choir and so it is little used. What a pity! Concerts using orchestra and/or large choir and organ are held in a University Hall which has an organ of similar size but much more impact. It does not pretend to be what it is not! The concert hall organ sounds very nice but it is of little use for the purpose for which it was intended. Bob Elms.   ---- Original Message ---- From: jlspeller@mindspring.com To: pipechat@pipechat.org Subject: Re: Atlantic City Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 20:40:49 -0500   >Colin Mitchell wrote: > >>Hello, >> >>I hate discussing size for the sake of it. >> >>However, the Atlantic City Midmer-Losh is SO enormous >>and SO musically excessive, it is difficult to be >>neutral about it. >> >It is not all that enormous when you consider the size of the >building >it is in -- about ten times the size of the Royal Albert Hall in >London. > >    
(back) Subject: Re: Overture Hall, Madison, WI From: "Malcolm Wechsler" <manderusa@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 02:24:23 -0400   Mike, Thanks for that. A very interesting site indeed. One sentence haunts me:   "The organ will be packed into containers and transported by sea from Rotterdam, Germany to the American east coast. From there will travel by truck to Wisconsin for reassembly in Overture Hall."   Someone flunked Geography! I have written to the people involved.   Cheers,   Malcolm   ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Franch" <mike6514@hotmail.com> To: <pipechat@pipechat.org> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: Overture Hall, Madison, WI     > Here are details of the new Pleasant Rowland Concert Organ. Ms. Rowland = is > from the American Girl Doll Collection. The highlight of the organ will = be > its totally movable design, being stored in a "garage" behind the stage when > not in use. > > I've included a link with the fact sheet. There is a photo, = unfortunately, > I'm not able to find it on the site right now. > > Dedication is set for late 2004. They will be dedicating an entire week = to > the organ and are seeking organists of native or local origin as well as > nationally known artists. > > http://www.overturefoundation.org/pressnews/pr2002.php?id=3D9 > > Mike Franch > Madison, WI > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get McAfee virus scanning and cleaning of incoming attachments. Get Hotmail > Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=3Dfeatures/es > > "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" > PipeChat: A discussion List for pipe/digital organs & related topics > HOMEPAGE : http://www.pipechat.org > List: mailto:pipechat@pipechat.org > Administration: mailto:admin@pipechat.org > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: mailto:requests@pipechat.org > > >      
(back) Subject: Re: Atlantic City From: "Arno Schuh" <arno.schuh@in-trier.de> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 10:23:02 +0200     From: "Colin Mitchell" <cmys13085@yahoo.co.uk> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 6:36 PM > What is/was the purpose of HUGE specifications? > > Were they musically inspired, or simply a political > statement? > Imho. that's unimportant. It's there, it's available and only need = somebody who wants to use it, knows to use it, have the needed imagination to use = it. IIrc. Marcel Dupre's le Chemin de la Croix was influenced by the sound of the Wanamaker. When Guild Music started its Dupre project of the complete organ works it was planed in cooperation with the BBC. It was planed that Jeremy Filsell should play the large organs around the world, Marcel Dupre himself used = on his concert tours. Unfortunately the BBC canceled the cooperation, and so the complete sessions was made on a single instrument. It's a pity, isn't it?   Yours sincerely   Arno