PipeChat Digest #4000 - Sunday, September 21, 2003
RE: OFF-TOPIC: preaching, and lectionaries
  by "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com>
OT, Humor - warning: delete unread if you don't like OT or don't have a f
  by <melisma@uniserve.com>
RE: Anthem Selection Tool
  by "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk>

(back) Subject: RE: OFF-TOPIC: preaching, and lectionaries From: "ameagher@stny.rr.com" <ameagher@stny.rr.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 01:21:18 -0400   Yeah, Bud's back! What's the stpry on the Crystal Cathedral? Did Bob Schuller retire? I hadn't heard that he left and his son took over=2E   Andrew   Original Message: ----------------- Wrom: PEGAUTFJMVRESKPNK Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 15:57:17 -0700 To: pipechat@pipechat=2Eorg Subject: OFF-TOPIC: preaching, and lectionaries     Well, it took two of Bruce's favorite topics to bring me out of hiding=20 (grin)=2E   (1) Preaching should be ABOLISHED, at least in liturgical churches=2E If=20=   you do the LITURGY with attention and devotion (and ALL the associated=20 music), there's nothing more to say=2E   You've HEARD the Word chanted or read; you've RECEIVED the Word=20 Incarnate in Holy Communion; there's nothing to add=2E And poor preaching=20=   often DISTRACTS from those two experiences=2E   The problem with preaching in NON-liturgical churches is that the=20 success of the entire service hangs on the preacher's ability (or lack=20 of it)=2E You have only to observe the dwindling crowds at the Crystal=20 Cathedral under Dr=2E Schuller's son to see what I mean=2E He's not a BAD=20=   preacher, but the place was built on his father's force of personality=20 in the pulpit, among other things=2E   Lacking a liturgy to CARRY it, a non-liturgical preaching service can be=20=   EXCRUCIATING if the preacher isn't OUTSTANDING, and not EVERYBODY *can*=20=   be outstanding=2E At my one Presbyterian post, the preacher was EXCELLENT,= =20 but I kept thinking to myself, "how do they sit THROUGH this EVERY=20 SUNDAY??!!"   If you can't make a point in ten minutes TOPS, you're either repeating=20 yourself or falling into error (grin), as an old-time anglo-catholic=20 priest friend of mine used to say=2E   (2) I dislike the "smorgasbord" approach to the Sunday liturgy as much=20 as Bruce dislikes hymn-based organ music and lectionary preaching=20 (chuckle)=2E Yes, there are only SO many "Good Shepherd" hymns you can=20 sing on Good Shepherd Sunday, but when ELSE are you going to sing them?   My anthem files are organized not only by season, but by individual=20 Sundays (we used the old one-year lectionary; I haven't tackled=20 organizing my anthems for the three-year lectionary yet, and I doubt if=20=   I will, since I'm basically retired from active playing and directing)=2E   I have anthems and hymns filed under   Lift up your heads - Advent 1 The powers of heaven - Advent 2 Holy Scripture - Advent 2 "Gaudete" - Advent 3 John the Baptist - Advent 4   Name of Jesus / Circumcision - Jan=2E 1 The Spirit of the Lord - Christmas II Epiphany - Jan=2E 6 Jesus in the Temple - Epiphany I Spiritual Gifts - Epiphany II John the Baptist (again) - Epiphany II Marriage in Cana - Epiphany III O Lord, I Am Not Worthy - Epiphany IV The Final Harvest - Epiphany V Behold, what manner of love - Epiphany VI The Last Judgment - Epiphany VI The Presentation of Christ in the Temple - Feb=2E 2   Come, Labour On - Septuagesima The Sower and the Seed - Sexagesima Though I speak with the tongues of men - Quinquagesima Jesus, Son of David - Quinquagesima   Blow ye the trumpet in Zion - Ash Wednesday Treasures in Heaven (grin) - Ash Wednesday Now is the accepted time - Lent I Get thee behind me, Satan - Lent I Great is thy faithfulness - Lent II The Holy Eucharist - Lent II Christ shall give thee light - Lent III Blessed is the womb that bare thee - Lent III Jerusalem the golden - Lent IV "Laetare" - Lent IV Feeding the multitude - Lent IV The Holy Eucharist - Lent IV   The final sacrifice - Passion Sunday Before Abraham was, I am - Passion Sunday Thy Rebuke hath broken my heart - Palm Sunday   The Triduum takes care of itself =2E=2E=2E Go to Dark Gethsemane and a=20 Eucharistic motet on Maundy Thursday, nothing save the liturgical texts=20=   on Good Friday, and a rousing Easter anthem at the Easter Vigil and on=20 Easter Day=2E   The Five Wounds - Easter I Receive the Holy Ghost - Easter I The witness of Water and Blood - Easter I The Good Shepherd - Easter II A little while and ye shall not see me - Easter III The Comforter will reprove the world of sin - Easter IV We plow the fields and scatter - Easter V (the Rogations) I have overcome the world - Easter V   God is gone up - Ascension When the Comforter is come - Sunday after Ascension   Come, Holy Ghost - Pentecost   I am Alpha and Omega - Trinity Sunday God so loved the world - Trinity Sunday   Dives and Lazarus - Trinity I Let us love one another - Trinity I The great supper - Trinity II The Holy Eucharist - Trinity II The ninety and nine - Trinity III, and yes, we sang "The Ninety And=20 Nine" (grin) Mercy - Trinity IV They cast their nets - Trinity V Baptism - Trinity VI Gifts on the altar - Trinity VI Eternal life - Trinity VII Feeding the multitude (again) - Trinity VII The Holy Eucharist - Trinity VII Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord - Trinity VIII Sons of God - Trinity VIII The Passover - Trinity IX The Prodigal Son - Trinity IX Spiritual Gifts - Trinity X Cleansing the Temple - Trinity X Pharisee and Publican - Trinity XI Deaf hear, dumb speak - Trinity XII The God of Abraham - Trinity XIII The Good Samaritan - Trinity XIII Walk in the Spirit - Trinity XIV Cleansing the lepers - Trinity XIV The Cross - Trinity XV Two masters - Trinity XV Seek ye first - Trinity XV At the Name of Jesus - Trinity XVI Raising the dead - Trinity XVI One Lord, one Faith, one Baptism - Triniy XVII He that humbleth himself shall be exalted - Trinity XVII Jesus, Son of David - Trinity XVIII Grieve not the Holy Spirit - Trinity XIX Thy sins be forgiven thee - Trinity XIX Psalms, hymns and spiritual songs - Trinity XX The marriage-supper of the Lamb - Trinity XX The whole armour of God - Trinity XXI Signs and wonders - Trinity XXI Forgiveness - Trinity XXII Citizenship in heaven - Trinity XXIII Caesar and God - Trinity XXIII Raising the dead - Trinity XXIV The LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS - Sunday Next before Advent / Christ the King Loaves and fishes - Sunday Next   And the usual Holy Days: Mary, Apostles, Evangelists, Martyrs,=20 Confessors, Virgins, Widows, the dead, the Angels, and anybody we might=20=   have left out (grin)=2E   After so many years, I only need the catch-phrases to remind me of the=20 anthems, hymns, and organ music that go with the readings=2E   I don't stick SLAVISHLY to it, but it gives me a starting point, rather=20=   than re-inventing the wheel Sunday after Sunday and year after year=2E   Cheers,   Bud           Five Wounds / St=2E Thomas Sunday - Easter 1 Grieve Not The Holy Spirit Sunday - sometime in Trinitytide; I'm still=20 unpacking Feeding of the Five Thousand Sunday       "Pipe Up and Be Heard!" 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(back) Subject: OT, Humor - warning: delete unread if you don't like OT or don't have a funny bone :D How many group posters does it take to c From: <melisma@uniserve.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 14:57:36 +0900   This is an oldie, but it does seem to fit a lot of groups I belong to. If = you don't like that organs aren't mentioned, substitute the word 'organ' for = 'light bulb'. There - happy now? I'm on topic :)   Melisma (still giggling, here under her Rock)       How many group posters does it take to change a light bulb?   1 to change the light bulb and to post that the light bulb has been = changed   14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light = bulb could have been changed differently   7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs   27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light = bulbs   53 to flame the spell checkers   41 to correct spelling/grammar flames   6 to argue over whether it's "lightbulb" or "light bulb" ...   another 6 to condemn those 6 as anal-retentive   2 industry professionals to inform the group that the proper term is = "lamp"   27 to post URL's where one can see examples of different light bulbs   14 to post that the URL's were posted incorrectly and then post the = corrected URL's   12 to post to the group that they will no longer post because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy   4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ   44 to ask what is a "FAQ"   4 to say "didn't we go through this already a short time ago?"   143 to say "do a Google search on light bulbs before posting questions = about light bulbs"   1 forum lurker to respond to the original post 6 months from now and start = it all over again  
(back) Subject: RE: Anthem Selection Tool From: "Peter Harrison" <peter@phmusic.co.uk> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 07:06:30 +0100   Working from a reading towards when it occurs sounds the way one might = work if trying to find an opportunity to perform an item rather than then = looking for what is appropriate to the lectionary. I have to admit there are times = I do that though I normally try to music to fit what more learned folk than = I have determined as the theme for the day.   The Royal School of Church Music (www.rscm.org.uk) publish "Sunday by Sunday" supplied f.o.c. to all affiliated choirs which not only suggests anthems but also hymns and organ music. Sunday by Sunday is linked to the Church of England "Common Worship" Lectionary which is virtually identical to the ecumenical Revised Common Lectionary commonly used in the USA and Canada and to the Roman Lectionary.     Peter M Harrison Organist & Choirmaster, Emmanuel Church Holcombe, Lancs, GB web: www.emmanuel.rammy.com/ & P H Music 48 Moorfield : Edgworth : Lancs : BL7 0DH : GB tel +44 (0)1204 853310 : fax +44 (0)1204 853445 web: www.phmusic.co.uk      
(back) Subject: Anthem Selection Tool From: "David Baker" <dbaker@lawyers.com> Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2003 12:57:37 -0400   I have longed for such a tool, myself. The closest I have come is the National Association of Pastoral Musicians Choral anthem project:   http://www.npm.org/Choral_Anthem_Project/   It follows the Roman Catholic lectionary, which is substantially the same in the Episcopal and Lutheran churches. The task, I think, is to work backwards; given a particular reading, what Sunday would that reading occur?   I just did a google search for >choir anthem lectionary< The first result was   http://www.anthemguide.net/   which looks like it might be an even better resource. Try it out and see!   If you find any other resources, let me know. Thanks   David Baker